Joe Biden's Fact-Check-Free Interview on The View
His polling was not "always in range" of beating Donald Trump.

President Joe Biden finally sat down for a grueling interview about the rapidly escalating tensions in the Middle East, the security failures that have resulted in multiple assassination attempts against his rival former President Donald Trump, and whether he is cognitively fit to serve out the rest of his term.
Just kidding: In reality, he made an appearance Wednesday on The View, alongside his personal cheering squad—the show's hosts.
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Whoopi Goldberg was particularly effusive in her praise for the president, describing her support for him as "ride or die." Joy Behar joked with him about age being just a number—they are both 81—and lovingly nuzzled his shoulder.
The ladies did ask him about his decision to exit the presidential race, which drew this reply:
Biden to The View: "I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance of my running again…my polling was about…always within range of beating this guy I didn't sense that….I was confident. I would beat Trump." pic.twitter.com/zutdHVOM3M
— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) September 25, 2024
"I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was this overwhelming reluctance, my running again, I didn't sense that," said Biden. "And although the polling, the Biden polling was different, my polling was always within range of beating this guy."
That was the most coherent part of his answer. It is also not accurate. Over the course of 2024, Biden polled steadily worse against Trump. In the immediate aftermath of his disastrous June debate performance, Biden dropped to six points behind Trump in national polling.
But even before the dreaded debate, the polls showed Trump pulling away from Biden. As far back as November 2023, some polls showed Trump edging out Biden in the key swing states; importantly, these polls also showed Biden underperforming Trump relative to other Democrats, including Vice President Kamala Harris. His favorability ratings had also collapsed since the 2022 midterms.
A year ago, Biden could credibly claim that the polls showed him "within range," given significant uncertainties. By the time Biden's campaign was hurtling toward its ignoble end, this was no longer true. Biden was going to lose.
Later during the conservation on The View, Goldberg remarked that while she supported the outcome, she did not approve of the messy, public manner in which Democratic elites ejected Biden. But the messy exit was made necessary due to Biden's own actions: his stubborn refusal to admit that he had no path to reelection.
It's fine for the ladies of The View to treat the president with kindness and respect. But as with the ABC presidential debate between Trump and Harris, it's telling that prominent Democrats can get away much more easily with statements that are simply untrue.
Drew Your Own Conclusions
I am frequently critical of The New York Times, though I am also grateful that its editors let me write for the Opinion section on occasion. Many progressive Democrats are also critical of The Times, although they tend to take the (insane) position that the paper is too pro-Trump. Really.
Consider this post from left-leaning journalist Dan Froomkin, who accuses The Times of "boosting" Trump's candidacy(!) by refusing to report that Harris is "destroying" him(!!) in the electoral race.
Brutal, must-read column by @drewmagary about how the New York Times is boosting Trump's candidacy by refusing to report the truth: That Harris is destroying him. https://t.co/9DHdaEsBka
— Dan Froomkin (PressWatchers.org) (@froomkin) September 24, 2024
Froomkin cites as evidence this column by Drew Magery, an opinion writer for The San Francisco Chronicle and avowed anti-Trumper. Magery slams The Times for describing the race between Trump and Harris as "deadlocked," when actually Harris is way ahead. Magery says Harris is way ahead because "Trump is losing in Pennsylvania, a state he needs to win, by four points."
To be sure, there are polls that show Harris up by as many as five points in Pennsylvania. Many other polls have her leading by just one or two points. Nate Silver's average puts Harris 1.6 points above Trump in the state.
But here's the real problem: During the run-up to the 2020 election, the polls showed Biden beating Trump by four, five, or six points in the state, according to CNN.
When the votes were tallied, Biden did win the state—by just 1.17 percent. If the polling error in Democrats' favor is as egregious in this cycle as it was in 2020, Trump will win the state and probably the presidency. It's certainly possible the polls are more accurate this time around, but that's why the presidential race is currently best described as a toss-up; neither candidates is solidly destroying the other. (Maybe Magery, who infamously predicted that Trump was going to get his "ass kicked" in the 2016 election, should stick to sports.)
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Trump will win the state and probably the presidency.
Why do you think they are shooting at him?
Trump opponents utilizing the four boxes strategy. Full court press.
That interview stank.
Something fishy about it.
Like day-old tuna?
As much as the Harris-Walz "interview"?
The actual odor. Potentially four or five soiled diapers in such proximity.
That’s a daily event on that set.
he made an appearance Wednesday on The View, alongside his personal cheering squad—the show's hosts.
Next up on the Gitmo Entertainment Network…
Consider this post from left-leaning journalist Dan Froomkin, who accuses The Times of "boosting" Trump's candidacy(!) by refusing to report that Harris is "destroying" him(!!) in the electoral race.
That’s not left leaning, that’s left fell over.
Destroying him.so much, that Trump has far more support from Teamsters members than FJB had on Election Day 2020 (when the layter win a majority of the Teamsters demographic).
What a change in just four years!
Yeah, it's astonishing.
Who could've predicted this?
That’s not left leaning, that’s left fell over.
It's actually kinda funny because Sandra was effectively making the same argument a week before the debate.
"And although the polling, the Biden polling was different, my polling was always within range of beating this guy."
Then what does your polling say about why you "passed the torch"?
How would he know? He didn't make that call.
"let me tell you ladies how difficult it is to pass a torch while being stabbed in the chest by four people."
Can Harris continue to rope-a-dope Trump until election day? Or will there be an October surprise that carries Trump past her in key swing states? Will 2024 be the shock that 2016 was? At least we know that Hillary will never be first woman president but having Kommiela be it should be just as embarrassing to competent strong principled and smart women.
""Can Harris continue to rope-a-dope Trump ""
She can. I think the question is how many swing voters are going to realize she thinks they are the dope.
Harris is certainly a dope.
But is she?
Ejercito above mentioned the poll.of Teamsters members by their own union.
A majority of Teamsters went with Team Brandon four years ago.
I asked my wife in 2016 if she'd like to see a woman president. She said sure but not that woman. With Kamala she's pretty much doubled down on that sentiment.
As if wanting a woman president would mean ANY woman.
The polls are just odd - they should them neck and neck yet -
Poll of teamsters and UAW - majority will vote Trump
Harris is down about 20% from Biden in Lation voters of 2020
Harris is down to 63-80 % of the black votes depending on what you read.
White Males -can't stand Harris.
If she is doing so well, why does she have to campaign in Blue States. Why waste the resources?
Yet, they are close. Something to point to the dem lovers here. A majority of the polls before the election in 2016 and 2020 were off. The polls underestimated Trump by about 4%. Clinton was what a 20 pt favorite at this time. Biden in the teens. Harris is way way below them.
The most accurate from 2020 and 2022 show Trump actually up 2 pts.
Again, polls are taken with salt. Lots of Trump voters don't answer polls. Also, the pollers always have a bias toward democrats so they weight it that way for oversampling.
Cuntala the 'Ho would have to do better than Brandon did among key Republican-leaning constituencied to compensate for doing worse among key Democratic constituencies.
Clinton gained ground from these Republican-leaning constituencies in relation to Dukakis.
Obama gained ground from these Republican-leaning constituencies in relation to Kerry.
Neither of them lost ground among core Democratic constituencies.
Bit how can Cuntala gain ground? She's not likeable. She supports so many radical positions like defunding the police and supporting a bail fund for violent rioters. Hoe could her policies and track record attract support from Republican constituencies?
"Or will there be an October surprise that carries Trump past her in key swing states?"
Well, there's the looming port strike, which may cost the economy a billion dollars per day. Whoever's running the country has the power to intervene, but he or she won't do it.
Is that a press release photo for a Golden Girls reboot?
Does anyone else find women of Whoopi’s age throwing themselves at a man of that "age", even as a joke, as gross?
Even as a fictional parody premise it’s supposed to be pretty cringe-inducing, bottom-of-the-barrel.
The sort of thing that makes paying a porn star for sex seem kinda upstanding and forthright.
I must say the interview, especially with Behar next tho him, did rather startlingly highlight the point that I and several other posters have made about how the issue isn’t his age. It’s his mental/social decline.
But it’s good to see that The View is at the forefront of hard-hitting journalism getting answers to tough questions out of The President. Remember when Trump booted CNN from the press corps because they were fake news? So quaint!
I find Whoopie doing anything gross except throwing herself off a bridge.
We have to remember there is rape, and "rape rape"
Blasphemy! That show was a treasure. Bea Author, 100x better looking that Whoopie. That is saying something. Plus who will play Betty White.
This show would be more the crusty girls or the stanky fish
Biden will be playing the role of Rose.
'Many progressive Democrats are also critical of The Times, although they tend to take the (insane) position that the paper is too pro-Trump. Really.'
"Really" back at you. At this point anyone not actively trying to assassinate Trump, physically or legally, is too far right for our progressive establishment.
Of course he would've beaten Trump.
The same way he beat Trump the first time.
And I quote directly from his own mouth, "We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics” preceded with a "We did it for Obama on his re-election too."
The only thing the left is scared of is election integrity ... which is precisely why Trump and many others have been indicted over and over and over again. The left isn't interested in election integrity; they're interested in silencing descent.
Yeah it's weird. Remember when he bragged about firing the prosecutor who was going after Burisma? How about that time he promised to stop Nordstream? We're supposed to believe these are just misstatements by a senile old man. I say we take him at his word.
Small note: "Magary" is the correct spelling. It's there in the tweet and the linked article, but you've got "Magery" in your piece.
It's ABC, of course they are not going to fact check their own political party.
So I wonder what Biden is thinking about his current trip to DC?
Wondering if Matlock gets the girl at the end of this season.
I was disappointed when the island in Lost turned out to be just the setting of a bizarre reality show run by evil leprechauns...oh, sorry, did I give away the ending?
That ending would have been better than the actual one.
The mitigating factor for the Lost finale (compared to Galactica and GoT) is that Lost as a show had been completely off the rails for three years, including a full season of "flash sideways" ridiculousness which was maybe the first sign of Abrams' obsession with parallel universes and alternate timelines. The aggravating factor for the Lost finale was that Abrams had said specifically in an interview that the whole point of the story was not the thing that the finale revealed to be the whole point of the story.
Consider this post from left-leaning journalist Dan Froomkin
If the people I listen to and follow are all "far right" can we call Froomkin "far left"?
Only left-leaning when the guy says insane things. But you're far-right for saying we shouldn't invite the third world to break our immigration laws.
https://babylonbee.com/news/no-one-notices-as-entire-cast-of-the-view-replaced-with-shrieking-feral-piglets
Giant hogs?
Fake news. Four of the pigs depicted are clearly wild, never domesticated, and the other has ear notches connoting it as either domesticated or livestock, not feral. Also, all the pigs indicated appear to be well into sexual maturity and, thus, not piglets.
And they describe themselves as fake news you can trust.
notice Sarah Haines put someone between herself & the Hair Sniffer
“Many progressive Democrats are also critical of The Times, although they tend to take the (insane) position that the paper is too pro-Trump. Really.”
Same for the Washington Post. Anything not entirely critical of Trump is an endorsement, per the Progressive commentariat.
those psych studies about monkeys killing the other monkeys for not really misbehaving always terrified me
"Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground
Silly monkeys, give them thumbs, they make a club and beat their brother down"
my next TOOL will be #20
Even being entirely critical of trump isn't enough for those people. You've got to buy in fully that he's actually worse than Hitler, including being both anti-semitic and far too "pro Israel". Short of that, and you'll get called an "apologist".
Polling is close enough that Democrat ballot shenanigans will drag Harris over the finish line. Detroit and Philadelphia voting station workers will provide the assist.
When did it become the norm for presidents to constantly go on talk shows? I remember Clinton once.
Is it because the dems are part of Hollywood now?
For the "Trump wrecks the dignity of the presidency", the Dems demean it with talk shows, paying to stay in the White House and the such
When Clinton went on The Arsenio Hall Show, it fell under “things that make you go hmmmmm.”
Anyone who watches "The View" should have his skull opened up and have someone take a dump in it.
At least the person would have something they could call a brain.
Personally, I'm shocked. If I didn't know better this was simply a Democratic Party arranged campaign stop, and not an opportunity for the press to obtain information for the American public.
I love the BS
'fact check free'
Yeah Biden felt he could win, that is a fact
Could he have?
WEll, we won't find out
Compare that to a Presidential debate where traitortrump makes crap up whole cloth, or any of the fawning interviews on Fox
Pathetic
Cry more.
Trump is a doddering old fool. The only reason anyone should care what he thinks is that he is still in power. Biden is still a lethal threat as to American foreign policy and his following the effete, cowardly Obama Doctrine
Trump is still in power?
We can end the debate about AI being of benefit to mankind when someone programs an LLM to do realtime fact checking of media using a proper regression analysis. Consumers would look to this as a seal of approval and steer clear of those sources unwilling to submit their product to the scrutiny. Mis/Disinformation banished to the scrap heap of history. In business the "single source of truth" is all the rage in data collection and analysis to eliminate the time wasted comparing data from various sources in decision making. No reason not to add it to the public square.
Robby, who do I talk to over at Reason to get Jacob, Emma, Liz (ENB, not the other Liz. Well, maybe the other Liz too.), Ceej, etc fired, and all their salaries turned over to you to do the job they constantly fail to do?