Ron DeSantis Won't Stop Trying To Gut Florida's Public Records Law
DeSantis' chief of staff used a personal phone to coordinate migrant flights to Martha's Vineyard. Now DeSantis' lawyers say those phone logs should be secret.

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration is once again trying to carve out broad new exemptions to the state's celebrated government transparency law.
This time, lawyers for DeSantis are arguing that call logs from a high-ranking staffer's phone aren't public record, even though the staffer was conducting government business, because it was a private phone.
The Tampa Bay Times first reported Thursday that lawyers for the DeSantis administration argued in court this week before a Leon County judge that the governor's office shouldn't be compelled to turn over call logs from DeSantis' Chief of Staff James Uthmeier's private cellphone.
The Florida Center for Government Accountability sued the DeSantis administration in 2022 for records concerning the migrant flights to Martha's Vineyard that DeSantis organized that year using state resources. The governor's office has turned over many records so far—and disclosed that Uthmeier and other staff used personal email addresses and phones rather than their state-issued ones—but it is currently defying a court order to release Uthmeier's phone logs.
"Florida is no longer the Sunshine State when it comes to transparency," says Michael Barfield, the Center's director of public access. "The public's right to know is headed into darkness."
Public records laws are commonly interpreted at both the federal and state levels, including in Florida, to cover records created on private devices and accounts if they concern government business. For example, the 2023 edition of the Florida attorney general's Government-in-the-Sunshine Manual states that "the mere fact that an e-mail is sent from a private e-mail account using a personal computer is not the determining factor as to whether it is a public record; it is whether the e-mail was prepared or received in connection with official agency business."
The manual also notes that "a public official or employee's use of a private cell phone to conduct public business via text messaging 'can create an electronic written public record subject to disclosure' if the text message is 'prepared, owned, used, or retained…within the scope of his or her employment or agency.'"
But DeSantis' lawyers are arguing that Uthmeier's call logs are "tertiary data," the Tampa Bay Times reports:
"If you hold that these tertiary data points are somehow public records that also have to be captured by a public records custodian, that is a sweeping — sweeping — interpretation of public records," DeSantis lawyer Christopher Lunny told Leon County Circuit Judge Lee Marsh on Tuesday.
But under that argument, Marsh said, all government business could be shielded from the public.
"We ought to just put out word, 'Let's do all of our business on private, bring-your-own cellphones," Marsh said. "Then we don't need public records laws because there'll be no public records, right?"
As Reason described in a magazine feature last year on Florida's Sunshine Law, the DeSantis administration is not just chipping away at the once-powerful public records law; it's taking a sledgehammer to it. State lawmakers have made the governor's travel records secret, and the DeSantis administration has also tried to invoke executive privilege over other documents, a privilege that is found nowhere in Florida's Sunshine Law and has never been claimed by previous governors.
DeSantis' office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Now do Biden's Hur recordings.
(D)ifferent
It is different. Because the House Republicans already have the transcript of the interview as well as Hur's report and commentary. They may be salivating over the thought of being able to 'leak' audio of Biden that might feed into their narrative of Biden being senile, but that isn't a legislative purpose that justifies a subpoena.
It isn’t a narrative. Biden IS senile. Do you really dispute that?
Depends on what people mean when they that word senile. The way most are using it against Biden, they mean that he has “dementia”, but that is a medical diagnosis. Even doctors aligned with Republicans shouldn’t try and diagnose a public figure based only on what they can see on TV. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis, and it would be inappropriate for any psychiatrist or psychologist to try and diagnose Trump with that.
If, on the other hand, you are simply using it in a colloquial way as him being really old and showing his age the way that just about anyone would, I wouldn’t dispute that. Of course, if it is about the number of his age, then Trump is only 3 years from being an octogenarian himself. And you won’t see the clips on right-wing media, but it isn’t hard to find ones of him displaying poor memory and difficulty pronouncing words coherently. Such as how he bragged about having “aced” a cognitive test given to him by Dr. Ronny “Johnson” when he was in the White House. That is less impressive given that the guys’ name is Ronny Jackson. Or the time he repeatedly referred to how Nikki Haley was in charge of Capitol security on Jan. 6, 2021.
Mainly, though, the reason that people don’t talk about Trump being “senile” in the same way that they do for Biden is that Trump was never that smart to begin with. It is just hard to tell the difference between age related cognitive problems and him just being dumb like he always was.
No, the main reason people don't talk about Trump being senile in the same was they do with Biden is:
-Trump doesn't shit his pants (at least not literally).
-Trump doesn't have to be led around by the hand like a fucking toddler.
-Trump doesn't read the parenthetical teleprompter notes aloud a la Ron Burgundy. In fact, Trump performs for his acolytes for 90 minutes straight with no notes of any kind, which almost nobody else could do. Whether they should is a different question.
-Trump can get off a plane using big boy stairs all on his own. He doesn't fall off of bikes or wander off stage or shuffle aimlessly when his pack of handlers direct him from spot to spot before nappy time.
-You'll agree with this one. Trump is competent to stand trial for any crimes he may have committed, even if those crimes don't actually exist. Biden is factually too senile to stand trial according to his own justice department.
I could go on and on, but why bother. Joe Biden is the most plainly senile high profile person in history. Pretending he isn't and allowing him to remain in the presidency is something like treason.
Impressive knob polishing!
A private phone is a private phone.
I’m not at all surprised Reason.com comes down on the side of government against private citizens.
Get a warrant you filthy progressive democrats.
How dare you criticize a Republican! Doesn't matter what it is, Democrats did it first and worse! You should be talking about Democrats!
Broken.
Poor, pour sarc.
Eye talians are like 10% nigger. Send him back
Finally a Florida Man Bad article. Just hoping they didn't have to bump a FAFSA apocalypse piece to make room.
As Reason described in a magazine feature last year on Florida's Sunshine Law, the DeSantis administration is not just chipping away at the once-powerful public records law; it's taking a sledgehammer to it. State lawmakers have made the governor's travel records secret, and the DeSantis administration has also tried to invoke executive privilege over other documents, a privilege that is found nowhere in Florida's Sunshine Law and has never been claimed by previous governors.
What are you (very poorly) trying to hide , Ron ?
Public records cases that Reason hasn't covered,
https://www.judicialwatch.org/willis-fails-to-answer-lawsuit/
And
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/04/17/fulton-da-fani-willis-my-office-cant-be-sued-an-open-records-case/
Hmm. What about this
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/j6-committee-failed-to-preserve-records-has-no-data-on-capitol-hill-security-failures-gop-charges
Fani again
https://www.scribd.com/document/702740243/Mike-Roman-Lawsuit
Forget it this is the same retard that believes the FBI crime is lower data. He's a pos marxist
String the monkey up
Fucking nigger
Good morning Shrike. Too much of a pussy to post your even more blatant racism under your normal handle? Given that you’re a known pedophile it’s not like you can possibly lower our opinion of you any further.
And
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/04/17/fulton-da-fani-willis-my-office-cant-be-sued-an-open-records-case/
Uh oh. A Republican did something bad. Time for some deflection and whataboutisms!
Poor sarc puppet.
Chem Jeff is from Kansas, no niggers there.
Sarc is from Maine. No niggers there either.
Coincidence?
Eat.
A.
Bullet.
And you’re from Georgia. Probably part of the local KKK. One of the last die hard still left.
Have you even TRIED killing yourself? Go for it. See what all the fuss is about.
The real problem is, to paraphrase the Bard, that no one loves to hear about the sins one loves to commit. This is why hush-money (or hush-property, or hush-position) will always be a popular tool among those who know they have something to hide. And it's why public records "sunshine" laws are necessary in the first place: to at least help to discourage the powerful from doing stuff they shouldn't. And it wouldn't have mattered if Nixon had bought his Oval Office tape recorder from Radio Shack as a private device. He still would have had to turn over the tapes.
Oh come now. You are not allowed to give a principled response here.
The correct answer, obviously, is that open records laws are to be used to keep Democrats honest. However, open records laws are a nuisance and just another form of lawfare when used against Republicans.
Public records laws are commonly interpreted at both the federal and state levels, including in Florida, to cover records created on private devices and accounts if they concern government business.
Yeah. I seem to remember there being something about some prominent Democrat and her private email server that Republicans complained about.
And you argued it was a nothingburger.
What changed?
And you argued it was a nothingburger.
Did I? Maybe I'm getting old, since I don't remember that.
The one with all the classified documents on it in clear violation of federal law?
Yeah, that’s the same.
So, you agree that the phone logs of the Governor's aides on the public payroll need to made available under Florida's Sunshine laws when they conduct government business on private phones?
Yes.
And you agree that senior government officials need to be prosecuted when they break the law *twice*? Once by conducting official business on private devices and again when they destroy evidence contained on those devices?
DeSantis might have at least three very big problems:
1) There are federal criminal laws (Title 18 Criminal Code) addressing using authority “under color of law” on one’s private time to violate rights. Like foreign tourists, non-citizens are also protected while in the United States.
2) Was the personal cellphone deducted as a business expense with the IRS and Florida tax agencies?
3) Congress passed the “Open Government Act of 2007/2019” extending some Freedom of Information Act records - if held by a private entity or a non-federal agency. In other words, Reason Magazine (or anyone) might be able obtain those government records being stored on a private database under the Open Government Act. Since it crossed state lines (federal human trafficking laws) it might fall within federal jurisdiction.
Are tax dollars really being spent arguing in court that public business is private when conducted on privately owned equipment?
Democracy is broken.
The superstitious dupes of mystical monarchic translators blindly copy and parrot lore and legend copied and parroted by medieval scribes long before Hizmajesty James I ordered Iron Age glossolalia and convict scribblings distilled into late Middle English. So ingrained is habit that Southern Hemisphere Trumpanzees like Bolsonaro and anarco-fascisti like Milei doo like monkey-see. The acephalic Brazilian clones mobbed, looted and vandalized Congress 2 years after the 06JAN traitors. Argentine Austro-Caucasians seek to destroy evidence of mass torture and murders committed by prohibitionist dictatorships. History still rhymes.
Reason really hates DeSantis for some reason, even though he's out of the running.
But you never hear about the shenanigans from any of the Democrat governors. Well, occasionally Hochul. I guess the Democrat-run states are all doing just great, plenty of illegal immigration to lube the economic machinery and absolutely no rising violent crime and civil unrest.
No, Florida is today's Goldstein.
Are you going to start to cover the Clinton email server scandal?
Or is that (D)ifferent?