Trump Romps Through Iowa Caucuses, Calls for GOP to 'Come Together'
DeSantis appears to be on track to claim second place, a distant 30-ish percentage points behind Trump.

Former President Donald Trump took his first official step toward winning a third consecutive Republican presidential nomination on Monday, as he handily won the Iowa caucuses.
So comprehensive was Trump's win that major networks called the race for the former president less than an hour after the caucuses began, with only a smattering of votes officially reported—and before voting had even started at some caucus sites. By 11 p.m., with about 93 percent of the vote counted, Trump had secured 51 percent of the vote. He appeared to be on track to win at least 16 (and likely many more, once the final results are tabulated) of the state's 40 delegates to this year's Republican convention, according to The New York Times' tracker.
Speaking in Des Moines late on Monday night, Trump celebrated his victory by declaring that "this is time now for everybody, our country, to come together"—a remark that could be seen as a call for the party to fall in line as Trump seeks to be the first person since former President Richard Nixon to be nominated three times for president by a major party. "We are going to come together," Trump said. "It's going to happen soon."
"We don't even know what the outcome of second place is," Trump added with a bit of a smirk.
Indeed, while there was no doubt about the winner on Monday, the caucuses did not provide a definitive answer to the other big question in the GOP primary: Which candidate can claim to be the top alternative to Trump?
By late Monday night, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis appeared on track to finish a distant second with about 21 percent of the vote, while former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley was nipping at his heels with about 19 percent.
DeSantis had bet heavily on a good performance in Iowa to save his foundering campaign. He'd achieved the feat of visiting all 99 counties in the state during the race, but late on Monday night he did not appear to be winning even a single county and had to settle for finishing roughly 30 points behind Trump.
DeSantis' campaign released a statement on Monday night sharply criticizing the media for calling the race so early—a fair point, even though it seems highly unlikely to have changed anything.
Haley is polling well ahead of DeSantis in the next two states scheduled to vote—New Hampshire and her home state of South Carolina. If the race for second place means anything, those contests may prove to be more important than the results in Iowa.
Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy appeared to be heading for a fourth-place finish with about 8 percent of the vote.
The Iowa caucuses are always a low-turnout affair, but bad weather across the state on Monday and the widespread perception that Trump was running away with the race likely reduced participation this year.
Relatedly, it's worth keeping in mind that despite all the attention showered on the Iowa caucuses, the first-in-the-nation nominating contest has done a poor job in recent decades of determining the Republican nominee. In each of the past three Republican primaries without an incumbent president in the race, the winner in Iowa went on to lose the nomination: former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee in 2008, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R–Pa.) in 2012, and Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) in 2016.
Trump's margin of victory in Iowa far exceeds each of those three races, none of which were decided by more than nine percentage points. In fact, his performance in Iowa was arguably the best ever by a non-incumbent Republican, ahead of the high water mark set by George W. Bush, who won 41 percent of the vote there in 2000.
It's still too early to make any definitive statements about the Republican nomination, but Monday's result reflects what numerous polls have already shown: This is Trump's race to lose.
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Fuck Joe Biden
Isn’t that what Kamala is for?
Ewwwwww.
Ewww to Canoila Hairlisp or Brandon?
…and end scene. You can go pick up your check.
Am I the only one who thinks that “by 11 p.m.” should be Iowa time and not New York Times time? Because as I’m reading this it’s not even 11 in Iowa yet.
None of the writers live outside of the NYC-DC/Cali mindset.
Also, get rid of “Standard” and “Daylight” and switch to 24-hour/not-12, and YYYY-MM-DD while we’re at it.
Need to include phases of the moon for those who want to convert to a lunar calendar
Let’s not forget the tide times.
I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
METRIC TIME!
Nah. The whole country should use Eastern Time by default. The rest of the zones can just do the math.
That’s too big a challenge n the West coast. Besides, math is racist!
Does everyone remember when, after the 2016 election, the press concluded that the reason Trump won was because he received billions worth of free press? Then do you remember various reporters and outlets saying they wouldn’t make that mistake again? Then did you notice that those very same major news outlets published an average of four Trump articles a day for the next eight years?
Journalists are, if nothing else, at least reliably retarded.
In 2016 Trump was new, open to the press, talked to reporters frequently, and benefitted from it greatly. That is different that 2020 and 2024 where there is certainly less talk, but Trump still has an ability to get his name in the paper daily. He is attending one of his many trials today, and part of the reason, I suspect, is to get the publicity. Reporters have to report the news and this is news. They don’t necessarily have to give him the microphone like they did in 2016, but friendly news outlets will. I don’t expect he will call into MSNBC or CNN as he did frequently in 2016.
Have you seen Trump’s mugshot? Has anybody seen Trumps mugshot?
I heard several reality TV stars and a couple of stars from the MCU and DCEU got arrested in 2023 as well. Oh, and Andy Dick. I even heard Bruce Jenner killed someone while driving with tits a few years back; shortly before getting nominated Person Of The Year or whatever and splashed across magazine covers. Weird how all those booking photos were somehow kept quiet.
Trump was selling merch with his mugshot.
How do you know?
Dude, seriously? He started selling that shit about two days after he had it taken. That’s public domain, and he knew his supporters and even people that hated him would snatch it up.
I’d have been more shocked if Trump DIDN’T monetize his mug shot.
What? Who hasn’t seen Trump’s mugshot?
Is this an epiphany that the capitalist press is dedicated to selling press-things, and is not actually dedicated to imposing its ideology on the public?
Nah…
It’s the concrete knowledge that the corporate press is dedicated to selling ideology thing on the public. So dedicated are they, that news organizations since 2015 have been collapsing regularly with shrinking audiences and mass layoffs. So dedicated are they, that they even have their own lobbying group that attacks advertisers for switching to their competition on the web.
Trump got the publicity in 2016 because the Democrats knew that Trump, a habitual failure, would be easy to defeat. The national polls were accurate predicting a loss by several million votes. Fortunately, for Trump, the local polls missed by a lot.
Panic set in among the elite resulting in major changes to election laws, primarily, by the conversion to mail-in voting. Democrats were bedeviled for years by their inability to bring “their base” to the polls. So they solved it by bringing the polls to “their” base which wasn’t race or class but people too lazy or too busy to vote in person. Someone supporting a family by working two jobs had no time for political analysis. Nor do people living in their parent’s basement playing video games.
These people got what little they knew of politics from the legacy media, social media and movies, every one of which was completely dominated by the left. The result was a massacre of Trump and Republicans in general.
They found the formula for defeating Trump and will implement this and more in 2024. Trump, who claims to be the greatest winner of all time (remember how you would get tired or winning?) is now playing the victim card assisted by the Woke adding many ridiculous charges to Trump’s list of crimes.
Over the last six months, Trump has been in a statistical tie with the worst president over the last 70 years. In 2020 he lost an election to Biden, who showed signs of senility while hiding in a bunker for the entire election.
Being the greatest victim of Woke injustice will not be enough to put him in the White House. Claiming to be the greatest winner and the greatest victim is a formula for becoming the greatest loser.
Looks like Haley didn’t even get second? Some Koch-funded writer is getting a pay reduction.
Well, thank fuck for small favors.
No joke. ANYBODY but Nikki.
Nope, the Koch candidate came in third. Which means she’s not palpable to enough Democrats to cross over.
Yes, but she did almost as well as Ron DeSantis. Ron put his money in Iowa and will likely have to fold. Nikki Halley can continue for a while longer to New Hampshire and South Carolina. And she might get Trump one on one earlier than expected. I don’t think this changes the November ballot, but the chance remains.
The difference between Haley and DeSantis is that DeSantis is tapping the Trump faction of the party, while Haley is tapping the “Please, not Trump!” faction.
Now that Christie has dropped out, she’s got the entire “Not Trump!” faction. While so long as Trump is in the race, DeSantis can only capture a fraction of the Trump faction.
The Trump faction is most of the party…
In a 3 way race neither Haley nor DeSantis has a prayer, Trump will dominate the primaries.
If Haley drops out, DeSantis will probably get a chunk of her supporters, but that’s still not enough to win.
If DeSantis drops out, Trump will get most of his supporters, and win even more convincingly.
If Trump drops out, or is otherwise eliminated, DeSantis catapults into first place, because he’s the second choice of Trump voters.
So, rationally, if anyone were going to drop out, it would be Haley, because she has no plausible road to the nomination, while the only thing standing between DeSantis and the nomination is a nearly 80 year old guy with serious legal problems and a cheeseburger addiction.
I disagree. You are correct that DeSantis was trying to be Trump without the baggage, but that did not sell. Very few can pull off what Trump does, because he has lots of practice. And Trump will be the likely nominee. If Nikki Halley can show herself the Trump alternative, she can get a good stake as number two. You suggest Trump could be incapacitated by age or health. I would suggest that he could also lose ground by his talk which is closing in on unacceptable. The trials will also take their toll. It isn’t just a conviction, it is also a litany of evidence against him that will be shown to the public. So, I would suggest that Nikki’s path is better than Ron and she should push on.
The trials will also take their toll.
Yeah, this has been the go-to cope for months, and it hasn’t happened.
Exactly. Americans love underdogs, and the MSM and Donkey idiots have made Trump the underdog, the world’s most famous victim.
Thank Zod!
LOL, the seething and rejection-obsessed behavior by the so-called “center right” is delicious on this. Some choice quotes:
NeverTrump is a small audience, Rob, too small.
The real money in your conservative echo chamber is sucking up to Chief Orange. Just ask Charlie Kirk and a host of others.
Paul Montagu (d52d7d) — 1/15/2024 @ 7:49 pm
Correction: …
conservativeright-wing echo chamber…Paul Montagu (d52d7d) — 1/15/2024 @ 7:50 pm
Correction: Fascist echo chamber. Nothing conservative or “right-wing” about it (except maybe in the MSM perversion of that word).
Kevin M (ed969f) — 1/15/2024 @ 8:32 pm
Unsurprisingly, Iowa sucks. One step closer to a felon in chief. Bravo, let the beclowning continue.
AJ_Liberty (307a3c) — 1/15/2024 @ 8:42 pm
Note how the latter two don’t sound different in any way whatsoever from Arthur L. Kirkland or Tony, especially back when the Dems fucked up the Iowa caucus in 2020 with that dumb voting app, and it made them look like idiots. Arthur slagged Iowans rather than accept his side fucked up. So does the “center-right.”
Whenever these people don’t get their way, their true beliefs about conservatives come out. (Just a reminder that these self-styled “conservatives” have never conserved anything, their ideas suck, and that they are bottom bitches for the left).
This comment about this political faction remains evergreen:
They got kicked to the curb precisely because they don’t have any “ideas” that actually matter or speak to the vast majority of the country, left or right, anymore. They’re simply political parasites and establishment bootlickers who will serve whomever actually controls the status quo.
Never rely on them as allies, because they’ll stab you in the back the minute they think they can’t be the ones controlling the narrative.
That describes neocons/“centrist” to a T. They really do just long to be the controlled opposition. It’s why they seethed so much when the Tea Party came on the scene and then worked tirelessly to absorb and discredit them.
I have to agree. I would just say: DC Beltway (Team R, Team D).
It was POTUS Trump’s time in office that really drove this point home. He has exposed them. Simply for this alone, the country owes POTUS Trump a debt of gratitude.
LOL, the seething and rejection-obsessed behavior by the so-called “center right” is delicious on this.
Yes. It seems that you love the politics of grievance as much as half of the Iowa caucus-goers. Owning the libs, sticking it to the establishment, and claiming superiority to foes on the internet is more important than deciding who the best person is to be President based on anything rational.
Note: you included no description of what you demand and have seethed in the internet here for years based on nothing rational.
I don’t “demand” anything. People have the right to choose their candidate for any reason they want or none at all. I will certainly advocate for choosing a candidate based on reasoned criteria, though. Here’s some examples of what I think are reasoned criteria for choosing a candidate:
Qualifications – successful experience at previous government positions (not based on time, but by accomplishments)
and/or – successful experience in private sector positions with skills that could translate well to government
Trump had no government experience prior to entering office. His ignorance of his job and the Constitution showed and hindered his ability to accomplish what he said he wanted to do many times.
Trump being rich isn’t a sign of success in business, either, as he started with a silver spoon in his mouth. He entered the same business as his father, getting help from him as he did so, benefiting from the relationships his father had built as well as tangible help financing early projects. Once he could no longer rely on that, as his father aged into retirement, that’s when he started having his strings of bankruptcies and failed side businesses. That he managed to keep things afloat getting financing from banks with questionable practices and connections is not a positive either.
Instead of a record like that, I would look for someone with proven leadership abilities. Someone that has shown that they can build coalitions, draw in talented people to be advisors and subordinates, and manage groups of people with more knowledge than them within their specific specialties. And you judge all of this based on what they have actually done in the past, not on what they say they can do or have done when giving speeches or interviews on TV.
Honesty and integrity – This is simple to evaluate, as long as we are willing to consider information that might show people we generally like in a bad light. This can be even tougher for us to live up to than it is for candidates for that reason. Is the candidate truthful? Do they use verifiable facts, do they admit it when something they said is shown to be false? If integrity is doing the right thing even when you can get away with doing the wrong thing, then it is a low bar to expect candidates to be honest when can’t get away with lying. That so few politicians live up to this standard is really a problem with us, as voters, not making them pay for those failures.
Policies – People need to decide what policies are important to them and then get candidates to focus on explaining what they plan to do in those areas. And they need to make sure that candidates give enough detail to really evaluate them, not just give some broad or vague goal that can’t be checked against outcomes. They also need to be sure that candidates have reliable evidence to support the belief that their plans will actually work to accomplish those goals. It is easy to let them get away with appealing to ‘common sense’ and ideology as ‘proof’ that their ideas will work if their plans line up with our own ideology. We have to work hard to be even half as skeptical as we need to be when that is the case.
There you have it. A description of what I view as rational criteria for picking a candidate to vote for. Note the lack of emotion and culture war issues that would even fit within that framework. Politicians use those to distract us from the things government should actually be doing for our benefit. Tax policy, regulatory policy, foreign policy, national security,… those are all an order of magnitude more important than who is using what bathroom. Government can only influence culture at the margins, at best, anyway. If people are going to become more moral, more patriotic, more tolerant of gays and transgender people, more religious, less religious, or whatever, then societal forces much stronger than anything government can do will determine that. That is, unless government gets really forceful with it. I hope that people in America don’t want that and would recognize it if it was happening and demand that it stop. Call me an optimist on that.
If that’s the demographic for a majority, then some candidate should have figured out how to appeal to it and compete with Trump to take it.
DeSantis tried. He was going to be the non-insane version of Trump, right? But instead it turns out what the voters really want is grievance and reality TV performances. They don’t give a shit about policy. They want to pwn the libs.
Pwning the libs is a policy, as it’s a dedicated resistance to their political agenda, as opposed to giving in to them on a regular basis and allowing them to make their policies into law. That’s why no one takes you shitheads seriously when you whine about this, and why the left is constantly trying to deflect using that same talking point, because they don’t want the resistance to take place, either.
That must be why Trump was so successful at ‘draining the swamp’. Because he was so focused on policy.
Maybe his supporters expect a messiah. I didn’t vote for the guy, I just liked that he squeezed the neocons out of the GOP and exposed their utter obsequiousness to the left.
Also, as I’ve pointed out in these comments repeatedly, Trump’s supporters aren’t going to cross over to Trump-Lite, when the actual Trump is already running. And DeSantis himself has been handled with kid gloves by the press so far, because he’s notorious for cutting off their access if they play their reindeer games.
If that’s the demographic for a majority, then some candidate should have figured out how to appeal to it and compete with Trump to take it.
Exactly. It’s simply fucking Marketing 101. For a group of people who are all Business Uber Alles, they sure have no idea how to sell their product to the people they need to consume it.
And this is also a good example of why the party in general has gone away from the caucus system–because it’s a lot easier for the party bosses to control a process through disengaged voters, than it is for people who are motivated enough to actually show up and advocate for their preferred candidate. That takes action and hard fucking work, and the last thing the GOP establishment wants is a motivated customer base, as opposed to simply anointing the candidate like a fucking king.
Trump came in 2nd in the 2016 Iowa caucus. Behind Cruz and basically tied with Rubio. Even though all polls – including Iowa – had had Trump as the frontrunner then for months.
You’re right that caucuses and outsiders can be a dangerous thing for establishment types. But that applies more to Sanders in 2016. Not to Trump in 2016 who was actually in a bit of trouble until he won in the NH primary.
Hell, it applied to Sanders in 2020, too. He kicked Biden’s ass in Nevada, and it terrified the establishment Dems so much that Jim Clyburn had to openly endorse Biden in order to get the rest of the party in line.
Yes. It seems that you love the politics of grievance as much as half of the Iowa caucus-goers.
LOL, I’m not the one slagging an entire state when my preferred establishment bootlicker candidate doesn’t win.
Here’s an observation–for people who gargle corporate cum as much as you and they do, chanting the refrain that “a business is there to make money, and politics will hurt these companies bottom lines,” it’s telling that your political faction HAS NO FUCKING CLUE as to how to market your product in a way that will get mass support from the people you need.
You guys are like Disney, a sclerotic institution relying on decades of cultural capital that’s been deliberately pissed away, in order to chase niche demographics who won’t make up for what you’ve lost, and expecting your core customer base to stick around while you shit up their brand with your tired, predictable virtue-signaling. And then when your core customer base says, “Fuck off, we’re done with you,” you keep doubling down with the same shit that’s been rejected time and time again, thinking you can brute-force your way to getting people to accept it.
Here’s an idea–how about you figure out what your customer base actually wants, and market a candidate who will at least promise them the products and services they demand for their investment of political capital? Or are you going to continue ignore the practices of the successful businesses whom you constantly put on a pedestal above the stabilizing construct of high-trust societies?
I mean, that’s not quite as retarded or rapey as Kirkland, but I get your point.
The hilarious part is one of them simply went on to confirm my point this morning:
Iowa is pure–rural, high school education, fly-over country. Even Trump flew over, seldom stopping there. It’s not America, or at least not all of it. Kevin M. (ed969f)
Note how quick the “center-right” is to dismiss what has been a swing state for decades, simply because the GOP caucus didn’t pick their preferred security state avatar. Indeed, they slag them as not even being Americans (yet say the same thing about Californians or New Yorkers, and the face-fanning starts). This is why I keep pointing out what a bunch of back-stabbing, passive-aggressive snakes and weasels this political faction really are, and why they can never be trusted.
And more to the point, why would Trump waste campaign funds on whistlestops in a state the he was handily leading? He made just enough to confirm his front-runner status and moved on. He’s not sinking a bunch of money or time into New Hampshire for the same calculated reason–Haley will likely win that one, so why waste a bunch of money in an early primary state that won’t have much impact on the outcome, as opposed to the Super Tuesday states? It’s DeSantis and Haley that have to expend money and energy playing catch-up, not him.
51% of what ?
The Trump vote in the caucus is on the low side of the 1-6 turnout on Capitol Hill.
I wonder how the Dem caucus did.
They held a “caucus”, but it was purely administrative.
https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-democratic-caucus-2024-results/46401742
Democracy!!!!
To be fair, didn’t pretty much the same thing happen in 2020 for the GOP caucus? Nobody of note in the Democratic party decided to challenge Biden, so that process is going to be administrative, anyway.
Same as the Republicans in 2020. Incumbents rarely are challenged. In 2020, Republican dropped some caucuses and primaries just to prevent any challenges to Trump.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-gop-canceling-gop-primaries-caucuses/story?id=65436462
I’ll commend Ramaswamy for declining to flog a dead horse.
-jcr
He is many things, but not stupid.
It’s my impression that, while Ramaswamy wouldn’t mind being elected President, he was actually running for VP. Trump all but told him that running at all, and ‘stealing’ part of his primary vote, was annoying. So continuing to run wasn’t going to get him anything.
Of the top 4 Vivek is the only one that is consistently pushing topics and ideas that I agree with and knows where the bounds are or should be in his answers ( end the Fed is congress, not executive; condemning White Supremacy is a religious catechism now).
I do not think he has a shot but seeing him seeding the ground this cycle is a good thing.
It’s a damn expensive way to get some recognition, but it works.
“So comprehensive was Trump’s win that major networks called the race for the former president less than an hour after the caucuses began.”
Do we have any results from the end, rather than the beginning?
And what happened to the media’s prior apologies for reporting results before the voting is done? The opportunity to tell Iowa Republicans “Have fun wasting your time, we already called the election.” was too attractive?
Never forget: Most reporters were simply people who couldn’t hack it as English majors.
Asking people if they wanted fries and operating a cash register was beyond their capabilities.
The center-right is coping right now by saying that Trump “only” won by 51%, deliberately ignoring that the Vivek and DeSantis voters largely consider him to be their second choice.
DeSantis was at 21.2, and Vivek was at 7.7. So if even half of those voters go to Trump, that kicks up his percentage to close to 65%. My guess is that 75% will cross over to Trump, and I’ll take the over on that, too.
Like I said, New Hampshire is going to be an anomaly. Haley will take it, and the press will desperately try to spin that she’s gaining ground to try and start a preference cascade, but she’s going to get smoked in South Carolina, where Trump is up by nearly 30 points. She’s not going to make that up before the primary date, especially if DeSantis decides to drop out after New Hampshire.
This question and response is completely unsurprising. The summary for those that don’t feel like watching:
Setting: Iowa town hall with Trump
Question: From a woman that says she plans to caucus for DeSantis, but appreciates the good things Trump accomplished. How do you plan to attract good people to your administration after spending so much time and energy demeaning and insulting former officials in his previous administration? (That is, the ones that wouldn’t lick his boots once they weren’t in his administration anymore.)
Answer: DeSantis would be working in a pizza parlor if I hadn’t endorsed him. By the way, everyone wants to come work with us.
Yeah, I’m finding Trump’s insulting approach to everyone who doesn’t fall in line rather distasteful.
I will say, though, that Trump has good reason to be pissed at a lot of his former administration officials. It appears to me that they mostly were working for the GOP establishment, not Trump, and saw their job as hobbling him, not advancing his priorities.
Rosenstein writing a memo justifying firing Comey, then using the firing as a basis for siccing a special counsel on Trump, for instance. That was just insane, and stuff like that was going on all over the place.
Most people arrive in the Oval office after long political careers, and have folders full of people they can count on working loyally for them. Trump lacked that, and had to rely on recommendations from the GOP establishment. It took him way too long to figure out they were feeding him ringers.
Trump has never hired anyone outside politics who has any priorities beyond polishing the brand of Donald Trump. At his age, he’s not gonna be learning anything new
In industry you can generally assume that employees will be loyal for so long as the paychecks don’t bounce, because they’re there for the paycheck. There are occasional exceptions, but this works most of the time.
Trump apparently didn’t realize that things didn’t work that way in politics, that it was perfectly possible you’d hire somebody, pay them regularly, and find out in the end that they were actually working for somebody who wasn’t signing their paychecks.
On the democrats side it isnt just calling oit those who fall in line, but half the country and even their own minority constituents.
Biden red speech.
Basked of deplorable.
Clings to find and bibles.
If youndont vote for me you ain’t black.
Could go on and on.
People clutching pearls about modern political speech seem to have never seen political speech 100 years ago.
Yeah, I’m finding Trump’s insulting approach to everyone who doesn’t fall in line rather distasteful.
Just say it, Brett: he doesn’t want competence, he wants loyalty.
I will say, though, that Trump has good reason to be pissed at a lot of his former administration officials. It appears to me that they mostly were working for the GOP establishment, not Trump, and saw their job as hobbling him, not advancing his priorities.
The “GOP establishment”, what a convenient scapegoat. A nameless faceless blob of people which can have any position you want assigned to them because they don’t represent a real person. Kinda like “Deep State” or “the Left”.
I will say, though, that Trump has good reason to be pissed at a lot of his former administration officials.
That could only be true if you believe Trump’s version of events rather than what those former officials have said. Given Trump’s difficulty with the truth, it seems rather unlikely that Trump is the one with an accurate history of his relationships with his staff and cabinet. He’s always been someone that expects absolute personal loyalty while giving none.
Iowa is 99 small counties of white, uneducated, economically inadequate, superstition-addled, bigoted slack-jaws.
A depleted human residue after generations on the wrong end of bright flight: Trump Country!
Carry on, clingers.
Whatever, Arthur Loser Kirkland.
Not sure your preference of a senile Prez indicates a direction for the future
Have you ever been there? I’ve ridden my bicycle across the state of Iowa (west to east) 7 different times. Almost everyone you meet is super friendly, welcoming, good people. They just want to live their lives and be left alone by the government.
It’s that last part why Artie hates them so much. He craves control over others, mostly so he can live out his rape fantasies.
Lol. Blue hellholes with feces lined streets are more to the revs liking.
Did your bike tires happen to roll through lots of human shit in iowa? If so, the rev just might change his tune about it.
Kirkland is so smart, he knew back in 2020 exactly how the Biden Era Supreme Court would play out.
Seriously. Click the link if you haven’t. His foresight is flat-out eerie.
Iowa is 99 small counties of white, uneducated, economically inadequate, superstition-addled, bigoted slack-jaws.
And that’s just the university towns!
“So comprehensive was Trump’s win that major networks called the race for the former president less than an hour after the caucuses began, with only a smattering of votes officially reported—and before voting had even started at some caucus sites.”
I attended a caucus before and the affect of calling the election over before the caucus is over is akin to election tampering by the corporate media.
“DeSantis’ campaign released a statement on Monday night sharply criticizing the media for calling the race so early—a fair point, even though it seems highly unlikely to have changed anything.”
I agree that delaying would not have changed much except for 2nd place on down. However the corporate media is indeed tampering with the election process.
Since the GOP actually run the caucuses, perhaps they need to do a bit more work on embargoing media access prior to the voting being complete.
I attended a caucus before and the affect of calling the election over before the caucus is over is akin to election tampering by the corporate media.
I suspect the center-right will be complaining about the quick call, without a hint of self-awareness about Chris Stirewalt calling Arizona for Biden 5 seconds after the ballot counts started rolling in.
Looks like the leftists here are freaking out yet again, just like Maddow:
“I don’t mean to be again, too dark as you said on this, but if we are worried about the rise of authoritarianism in this country, we are worried about potential rise of fascism in this country.”
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“If we’re worried about our democracy falling to an authoritarian and potentially fascist form of government. The leader who is trying to do that is part of that equation… Is a much bigger part of that equation.”
She finally calling out Biden?
The left is now matriculating towards projection so perhaps. This can be seen in the comments here over say the past two weeks.
It’s extremely important to remember that when they say “our democracy,” like they have the past few years, they don’t actually mean a system where people vote and the outcomes are undetermined.
What they actually mean is in the same frame that Mao did during the Cultural Revolution–that “democracy” is only “democracy” in the service of their marxist theology. If it doesn’t advance the communist revolution, it’s not “democracy,” it’s “fascism,” or “capitalism,” or whatever “oppressor” avatar they’re invoking in the Oppressed/Oppressor narrative they’ve constructed. These people are constantly redefining words from their historical and traditional standards (such as “gender,” for example) for the explicit purpose of using them as a shield for advancing marxism.
They aren’t talking about democracy in the literal sense, they’re talking about it in the Leninist-Maoist sense, where opposition to their theology is against their sense of historic determinism. It’s why these fanatics are always invoking “the right side of history” like a religious mantra.
I.e., it’s not “democracy” if their side doesn’t win.
Vivek is no dummy and has to be aware that Trump will throw him under the bus at some point, even (especially?) if he becomes the VP candidate. I wonder how he plans to navigate that.
The primaries are where you trash your fellow party members. Look back at what Hillary said about Obama in his primary. It’s not unusual.
What makes this seem different is Donald Trump is a New York City native. He’s a first class big mouthed asshole, like the rest of them. So when he goes after an opponent he goes right for the throat and doesn’t hold back. He doesn’t worry about their feelings or what they will do down the line.
LOL, maybe, but people like Vivek are also notorious in believing “it happened to others, but it’s not going to happen to me, as long as I show loyalty.” And to be fair, Trump has NEVER trashed Herschel Walker for that very reason, as Walker’s been loyal to him through every single thing that’s happened, good or bad.
I don’t think Vivek’s ego will allow him to practice it to that level, though. He’s going to try and ingratiate himself as Trump’s right-hand man, and it’s probably going to bite him in the ass later.
Seems like we’re racing towards an election where anyone who is not a party line ideologue will be shut out and the winner will be determined not by who drives the most voter turnout but by who suppresses turnout the least.
There’s no incentive to tack to the center during a quasi-civil war following a generation-long period where one side in particular aggressively “disrupted and dismantled” a nation’s shared cultural identity and civic consensus, and openly bragged that they were doing it.
There’s no moderation in an existential conflict. Only the self-deluded believe that isn’t happening right now, and that the US still has the same collective identity that it did in the 1980s.
And I’ll reiterate, YET AGAIN, that this could have been prevented if the center-right hadn’t begged off on the culture war for the generation that they were setting the GOP’s agenda. You’d think a gaggle of real-world warmongers would remember their mantra about the enemy respecting strength rather than weakness, while the left destroyed the nation’s identity from the inside.
There were culture war issues that I occasionally felt the need to get worked up and vocal about. But I couldn’t buy into the “war” part. Until 2020 when the culture war became cultural revolution. Then it became crystal clear.
When the leap it took from campus fringe to every institution became scarily undeniable. Of course, it’s kinda too late by then…
It’s not a culture war until the left starts getting pushback. And everything being promoted on college campuses now, gets mainstreamed within 15-20 years.
Like Milei says, you can’t give shit leftards an inch.
Same BS as last time. And the time before that.
Vote for Candidate Default. Doesn’t matter who he is, doesn’t matter what he says or does, doesn’t matter his track record on anything. His only qualification for office is Not Being The Other Guy.
Not good enough, Donald/Joe. Earn the vote, or you won’t get it. Period.
51% is literally the lowest number by any ex president in the history of the Republican Primaries in Iowa. He got 97% in 2020 before losing to Sleepy Joe the Potato. If Trump is the nominee and the economy doesn’t take a turn for the worse, he’s going to get his ass handed to him again.
Lol,. it’s the largest margin of victory in the caucus’s history, you coping sped. He got 97 percent because he was the only candidate running. Get the fuck out of here with those mental gymnastics.
The only place? Seriously? Cedar Rapids smells like Crunch Berries pretty much 24/7. I’ll take that any day over the smells you get to experience in downtown NY, DC, Chicago, LA, etc.
Comments like this illustrate why Trump’s lead was so commanding.
The realignment continues apace. And people like Lynn have been left behind.
I’ve always found it interesting that when urbanites think of living in the middle of nowhere and having nothing to do, fucking their cousins always seems to be in the top 5.
Way back when there were actual dirt poor farmers who used to inbreed, they at least had the justifications of being dirt poor, second or third cousins, and no phones, no cars, and no education. Much like the European royalty several hundred years before them, they just didn’t know any better.
But, apparently, today if you plucked someone out of NYC or LA and dropped them out in the middle of nowhere, if their first thought is “I need to call an Uber.” their second thought is “So I can get to my cousin’s house.” Must be a part of their ideology about magic dirt.
Stop eating the food they grow.
Yeah I’m just a bumpkin with a STEM degree who has lived and worked on multiple continents and speaks several languages. You’re afraid to visit farm country. But, feel free to comfort yourself however you like.
Whose sock puppet is this? I mean, it’s just here to say mean things for the sake of sealioning, but that doesn’t really narrow it down amongst the people I’ve got greyed out yet.
Thank you Reason for the mute button,
Your ilk apparently doesn’t have the strength to go outside and do anything civic when the temperature drops below zero.
Cowering in bed under the blankets is not a profile in courage. Voting for someone who is senile doesn’t display much skill in making a choice about who is capable of being Prez
Pretty sure it’s the bigot piece of shit Kill All Rednecks.
Well, he has a family tree unlike your family pole.
Just sayin’.
He sure made your ‘inbred hicks’ routine look foolish. I guess all that egg on your face [that is egg, isnt it?] has got you somewhat bitter.
Well, it fits the type for sure. Muted now.
^ This.
Fuck off, KAR.
If you’re following Biden, you’re the one who’s falling behind at Rollator pace.
he sounds like the Rev to me
And since these folks mostly come from one or two child families for several generations, they’ve clearly got a specific cousin in mind.
Well, there is something to poor, rural populations suffering from child abuse and sexual molestation.
But the “HURR COUSIN FUCKERS HERPITY DERPITY DOO!!” speds notably avoid that type of mocking when the subject is native reservations, for example, even though that kind of dysfunction is absolutely rife there. Or Middle Eastern/central Asian populations like Pakistan where arranged marriages to first and second cousins is practically a rite of passage. The only target of their contempt is any society that’s mostly white, because they absolutely hate western white people.
It is KAR. Lynn also stalks certain posters.
Biden journals giving us the best insight into this false educated fake intellectual class discussing family members.