Brickbat: Carry On

Responding to a series of shooting, many involving minors, St. Louis Mayor Tishaura Jones has proposed banning AR-15s, AK-47s, and similar weapons from city streets. Jones has also called for banning celebratory gunfire and banning people convicted of insurrection and hate crimes from possessing firearms in the city.

Comments

[Stuck in California]

Maybe they should make it illegal to shoot people in St. Louis. Including minors.

That would solve it, right?

[Eeyore]

Perhaps Tishaura should cast a spell or seal the law with magic runes? Has that been tried?

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[MatthewSlyfield]

She could try having it written in the blood of a virgin on a true calf skin velum.

[Eeyore]

That would almost certainly work. Maybe just the blood of a virgin clump of cells.

[Fetterman's Hump]

yeah, right. Like there is a virgin in St. Louis.

[Jerryskids]

I doubt there are that many people licensed for automatic weapons toting around AK-47's in St. Louis, or anywhere in the US. 'AK' actually stands for the Russian for 'Automatic Kalashnikov' unlike the 'AR' which stands for 'ArmaLite Rifle', not 'Automatic Rifle' as many dickheads people assume. Whether it's 'celebratory' or not, gunfire inside city limits can be regulated. As far as 'hate crimes and insurrection' are concerned, are those felonies or clearly defined charges or just whatever the government wants to define them as?

Probably they would do better to make it illegal for people named Tishaura, LaQuisha, LaQuanda, or anybody with an apostrophe in their first name from being mayor.

[Eeyore]

I’m curious if someone convicted of insurrection has ever shot someone in St. Louis with an AK-47.

[mad.casual]

The celebratory shooting of minors by insurrectionists with AK-47s in St. Louis will be effectively eliminated.

[MatthewSlyfield]

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[Eeyore]

My anti tiger rock is still 100% effective.

[Jerry B.]

Maybe, if they were just charged with misdemeanor insurrection.

[markm23]

Over 99% of the shootings are with handguns, not with rifles of any sort – because they always are. Criminals avoid long guns because they are conspicuous and expensive. “AK47’s” (or semi-auto AK-style rifles), AR-15’s, and other weapons the ignorant call “assault weapons” are not the problem. Long guns of any sort are not the problem. Guns are not the problem. Violent criminals are the problem, whether they are armed with guns, knives, clubs, or rocks.

So what does Tishaura ban? The guns that aren't used by her criminal constituents.

[mad.casual]

anybody with an apostrophe in their first name from being mayor

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[Minadin]

The Democrats here are really struggling because MO is an open carry state now by law, and also has a state law prohibiting state and local law enforcement from enforcing and federal gun laws any stricter than the state ones, and preventing local governments from enacting laws more stringent.

So, we get these tales of teenage young men walking the streets of downtown openly 'brandishing' P-90's or whatever, and the police just throwing up their hands and saying 'nothing we can do!'

But, I've been downtown quite a bit, and I've never witnessed this. And, I notice that you never hear stories of these M-16 wearing menaces actually USING the weapons, either.

[Agammamon]

Yeah, I don't get the issue with people walking around with P-90's (other than its a shit gun - get a Draco;)) if they're not actually shooting people with it.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Whether it’s ‘celebratory’ or not, gunfire inside city limits can be regulated.

And almost certainly already is.

[Agammamon]

There is no license for automatic weapons.

Automatic weapons are NFA items - if you can find a transferrable machine gun and are not otherwise a prohibited person, its just $200 tax you have to pay - no license required.

[Adans smith]

The first rule of crime stats is it’s a minority of people that commit most crime, the first rule of politics is to ignore rule number one.

[Jerry B.]

And also, people of a minority.

[Fist of Etiquette]

She will clean up the city of guns just like she cleaned the city of drugs.

[Public Entelectual]

“Jones has also called for banning celebratory gunfire and banning people convicted of insurrection and hate crimes …”

Were St. Louis serious about cutting down on guns in the streets, it might make circular feux de joie a compulsory part of public celebrations

[Davy C]

Banning celebratory gunfire seems like a First Amendment violation. Perhaps ban shooting randomly into the air. Even most gun advocates would agree that shouldn't be allowed.

[B G]

Is there another version of "celebratory" gun fire? Every instance I've ever seen (whether it's a soccer win in South America, "liberation" of a country in the middle east, or NYE in Los Angeles) involves shooting into the air without regard for the fact that the bullets are coming back down somewhere.

As reckless as that is, shooting without a target in any other direction is far more dangerous, especially in an urban environment where even shooting downward will create some combination of shrapnel and/or ricochets.

[Longtobefree]

The rest of the story - -

St. Louis Mayor Tishaura Jones (D)

[John F. Carr]

In cities in my area all gunfire is prohibited, except to carry out a legal duty.

[Don't look at me!]

Kids shooting each other with pistols has nothing to do with what she wants to ban.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

That's because she's either a moron who has no idea what the real problem is, or a cynic who absolutely does know what the real problem is, but won't endanger her re-election chances by cracking down on the people who elected her.

[B G]

Dem office holders are only allowed to endorse a fairly narrow range of "solutions", and are required by the National Party to trot them out and pretend that they're somehow going to solve nearly any problem when presented in that context.

Since there's kids involved in the shootings, it's a wonder she didn't also suggest that increasing teacher salaries at public schools should also be explored as a solution.

[Idaho Bob]

Gotta ban those high powered double barrel magazines extended clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9RgaSdM1g

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Wow.

"But why can't you just compromise?!"

"How would I compromise with meaningless gibberish, and why should I compromise with morons?"

[Eeyore]

Lol. Double barreled magazine. Whatever that is - I want one.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

There is a Kel-Tec shotgun out there with 2 tubular magazines (internal to the gun).

[Eeyore]

Sounds kind of cool.

[Jerry B.]

All you need is some tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj3CBIh2wF4

[mad.casual]

people convicted of insurrection

JFC, even by their own precepts or conception.

People: "If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns."
Mayor Jones: "What about insurrectionists?"
People: "If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws and insurrectionists will have guns."
Mayor Jones: "Right. Stay here and guard the City of St. Louis from the guns until the insurrectionists get back... got it."

[Dillinger]

and no singing!

[TJJ2000]

Will Democrats ever acknowledge that their criminalistic "gov-guns makes sh*t" mentality are at the very root of all these problems?

Lobbying constantly for MORE gov-gun-enforced criminal acts and then being surprised when the whole place turns to 'guns' to solve all their problems. The very premise is the very curse.

Once upon a time government was an armed entity to ensure Liberty and Justice for all.

[B G]

Once you've achieved the level of doublethink needed to believe that LEO's are actively hunting and deliberately murdering "black and brown" (except for Nigerian and South Asian) people just because of their melanin levels and are also to be entrusted with a monopoly on the wielding of lethal (and in CA several versions of non-lethal) force, it's easy to buy in on almost anything you choose to believe.

[Dillinger]

>>banning celebratory gunfire

am I not free to express my joy, to yell aloud, via use of my firearms?

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Only at gay weddings and gender reveals.

[Dillinger]

a gay wedding gender reveal might be worth it.

[Davedave]

Only in the US could any of this be even the slightest bit contentious. It's basic common sense.

[TJJ2000]

Yeah; Take away all the gun force from the citizens and give it all to a Nazi-Regime government and history has already shown what that government will do to you next.

UR common-sense is F'En retarded and you belong in a gas chamber.

[Jerry B.]

Common sense is duplicating Federal law?

"...banning people convicted of insurrection and hate crimes from possessing firearms in the city."

Unless insurrection and hate crimes are misdemeanors with sentences under one year, the Feds already have this covered.

[markm23]

Common sense is taking away firearms from the good citizens - only if you are planning on such massive violations of their rights that they wil shoot you.

[AT]

Pretty sure this is already the law:

-Prohibit military-grade weapons on city streets
-Prevent the transfer or sale of guns to minors
-Take action on military-grade guns and similar untraceable firearms

Pretty sure that literally no legal gun owner does this:

-Prepare St. Louis for the passage of Blair’s Law to ban celebratory gunfire

Pretty sure this is prima facie unconstitutional:

-Prohibit anyone convicted of insurrection or hate crimes from having guns in St. Louis

[NotForNoReason]

These kinds of opportunistic stunts are gross and dangerous. The idea that you fight criminals by punishing/handicapping people who follow the law, is insane!

[C. S. P. Schofield]

Insane pretty well sums up the Progressive mentality. The idea that a powerful central State, run by ‘experts’, would create a better society was pretty much buried - along with a lot of bodies - by the 20th century. But they hang on, just as the European Aristocracy hung on long after the Industrial Revolution and modern farming made being in charge because you were descended from Good Blood and owned a lot of land ridiculous.