Critics Lose Their Mind as Arkansas Makes It a Bit Easier for Teens To Work
Youth employment is a recognized path to greater prosperity.

Last week, Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed a bill making it a bit easier for teenagers to enjoy gainful employment. Predictably, the usual suspects piled on, accusing state lawmakers of sacrificing children to Mammon. But in the midst of a national labor crunch, Arkansas is hardly alone in contemplating loosened restraints on teenage workers. The move might not only fill jobs, it could also improve young Americans' prospects for future prosperity.
"In Arkansas the days of trapping our people in poverty, welfare and government dependency are over," tweeted Sanders after signing the Youth Hiring Act, which in few words eliminates a requirement that 14- and 15-year-olds get permits from the state government in order to work.
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The Sky is Falling… on Toiling Teens
Citing the dangers of illegal child labor involving migrant children, critics immediately attacked the idea of eased legal employment.
"The new Arkansas law is just one of a number of state bills loosening child labor restrictions, despite evidence that young children are already engaged in dangerous and exploitative labor throughout the country," charged Vox's Ellen Ioanes.
"Arkansas Republican Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed a bill into law this week that rolls back a number of child labor protections across the state," insisted CNN's Sydney Kashiwagi.
"Gotta admit – loosening child labor laws was not on my Top 10 List for our CA legislative session this year," huffed California Gov. Gavin Newsom as he linked to a news report of the reform.
"Our laws are now in line with AZ, CO, and TX," Huckabee Sanders shot back to Newsom. "You might recognize them as states like mine that Californians are fleeing to."
Young Workers Take the Jobs That Adults Don't Want
Not only is Arkansas meeting the standard set by other states with its new work rules, it's also, as Vox's Ioanes conceded, in good company in seeking to reduce barriers to teen employment. That's a pressing concern in a tight labor market with adult labor force participation remaining stubbornly lower than it was before pandemic-era restrictions. The worker crunch has pushed employers to hire younger workers (my then-16-year-old son fielded multiple offers when he went job hunting in Arizona) and states to loosen restriction on teenage employment.
"Adding to a growing trend across the country, a Connecticut lawmaker has proposed two bills that would lower the working age in certain industries to help address the state's labor shortage," Hartford Business Journal noted last month.
Axios reports similar proposals in Iowa, Minnesota, New Jersey, and Ohio, as well as Connecticut and the enacted reform in Arkansas. "The laws and proposals have largely been introduced by Republicans but received support from some Democrats in Ohio and New Jersey."
Eased barriers to employment could further expand opportunities for teenagers who have been in demand as many of their elders stepped out of the workforce in recent years. That's a reversal from decades in which the labor force participation of younger Americans declined from 59.3 percent in 1978 to a pre-pandemic low of 32.5 percent in February 2014 (last month it was 37.5 percent).
Work Now, Prosper Forever
Importantly, more opportunities mean not just more workers, but potentially greater prosperity for teens who gain early job experience.
"When economist Raj Chetty studied dozens of local factors that correlated with upward mobility, teenage labor force participation proved more powerful than almost any other factor, even high school drop-out rates or violent crime rates," Timothy P. Carney pointed out last week in a Washington Examiner column.
Chetty, a Harvard University economist, is better known for emphasizing the value of social capital—in particular, friendships across class lines—for boosting economic mobility. But his research indicates a strong correlation between teenage participation in the labor force and upward mobility. It's a connection that's been made multiple times in the past.
"A shift in teens' time allocation from market work to leisure or other activities that do not increase their human capital may negatively affect their future productivity," economists Daniel Aaronson, Kyung-Hong Park, and Daniel Sullivan cautioned in a 2006 Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago paper about declining teenage employment. "In general, labor market experience tends to raise subsequent earnings."
Improved future prospects from teenage employment aren't just an American phenomenon; it's an expected outcome form work around the world even when jobs are less than ideal.
"For every young person, a job offering decent work is an important step in completing the transition to adulthood, a milestone towards independence and self-reliance," the United Nations' Commission for Social Development observed in a 2007 discussion paper about workers 15 to 24. "For children and young people living in poverty and in other disadvantaged situations, employment is often the main means for attaining a better life, though such employment is often informal with poor or exploitative working conditions. For more fortunate youth, prospective employment influences their choice of education and training, and increasingly, their decisions regarding marriage, kinship and cohabitation."
"The [International Labour Organization] estimates that if the prevailing youth unemployment rate is reduced to the level of adult unemployment global GDP would increase by between 4.4 and 7.0 per cent," added the commission. "Such a reduction in youth unemployment is achievable and would certainly contribute to poverty alleviation and thus to social development."
Critics Would Sacrifice Big Benefits from Employment
That's a lot of benefit to be had from letting teenagers earn income and develop good work habits for later in life when the stakes are higher. And it's a lot to sacrifice to satisfy critics who have their panties in a bunch over very minor reform. The bill that Sanders signed does nothing more than reduce state interference in the youth hiring process and leave work decisions to teens, employers, and parents. If businesses offer jobs, and parents and guardians sign off on the idea, willing 14- and 15-year-olds can now legally work within the tight parameters allowed by the U.S. Department of Labor. That's the extent of the change.
Loosening the rules even further would be a great idea, further enhancing opportunity and prosperity. But prepare for a lot of hyperventilating by people who pretend that the best way to combat illegal child labor in the shadows is to prevent teens from being hired openly and legally.
Pending bolder reform, Arkansas has joined other states in letting some more teens work without bureaucratic approval, so long as their parents say it's OK. It's a step in the right direction.
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Funny that for over a century young people under 15 worked for pay as young as eight without any problems. It teaches the value of work and money! As long as they are not being abused, it is a great thing for a child to learn about finance and economics. Maybe then we will get smarter adults that are not so entitled and dumb running our country.
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Why is getting a permit so hard or a barrier to a teenager working? Teenagers in my family got papers at 16 (1 page – 20 minutes) and started working that summer. The real issues are the young illegals working dangerous jobs at substandard wages (courtesy of open borders) but Huckabee is not putting their employers in jail for hiring them. I have no clue why this law had to be replaced or modified or what ‘problem’ is being addressed.
Maybe because the law didn't address the 'illegal'/trespassers topic.
In a Mafia style government the Red-Tape records can be dangerous.
Iowa is doing the same and the Democrats are going ballistic about it. Another hill for them to die on.
I started working at age 14 detasseling for. 2 weeks in the summer at $2.65 per hour. I had no other opportunity to work. Did not need a permit. Would have worked longer if I could. But I needed to be 16 to work in a restaurant (which I did when I turned 16). Learned more working than I did at school.
When my son was 15 and he wanted an Xbox, he spent two weeks detasseling cor to pay for it.
Detasseling? You mean taking the hangie-thingies from graduate caps?
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I am a little confused by this also as I started to work at 12 as a paperboy. My parents had to sign off on a work permit, but it was no big deal. I think that young people working is a good idea it not only teaches work ethics, but provides for important social interaction with the public and with co-workers.
I would suggest that a bigger barrier to young people working may not be the government. For the young person, afterschool sports or extracurricular activities is credited in college applications. Working is not credited, even though that working teaches kids a lot of skills. Gov. Huckbee Sanders might consider encouraging Arkansas colleges to be more accepting of a youth's work history in considering their college applications.
Yes, government should tell colleges what to do and who to accept.
Hear hear!
If anyone really gave a shit about illegal immigration then they'd throw the assholes in charge in prison instead of just deporting the immigrants.
Do that a few times and wow, all of a sudden the problem would just fix itself because illegal immigrants wouldn't take the risk when there is no one willing to hire them.
Why do you think “illegals” shouldn’t work?
You imagine shitfordinner thinks?
Why should they have to say "Mother may I" to the State Government? All the permit does is to create a few jobs for some Public Sector Union employee.
Yup.
Who cares how easy or hard it is? The right question is why was the government meddling in this area at all. Would you be equally blasé about an "easy" requirement to get government approval before you were allowed to publish a book or open a social media account?
Getting a permit neither increases nor decreases the problem of underage illegals working dangerous jobs at substandard wages. That's already happening and the permit process wasn't even slowing it down.
“illegals working dangerous jobs at substandard wages (courtesy of open borders)”
That is self-contradictory: if we had open borders, they wouldn’t be illegal.
A lack of enforcement does not make it legal.
Why is getting a permit so hard or a barrier to a teenager working?
Because they shouldn't have to get the government's permission in the first fucking place, that's why.
Why should they have to do it at all? What benefit to anyone comes from having the requirement? That should be the question about any existing law. I'm all for anything that keeps government out of people's business.
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I am interested in your proposal, Mike. Is a work permit required?
There was a time where someone forecast that the increased productivity that was coming about would bring shorter work weeks (<30 hours), greater happiness, etc.
Nope. We took that increased productivity, said fuck you, continued making people work longer hours for even less real pay and at the first sign of the capitalist bosses NOT being on top (ie. a very tight labor market), the solution is to have kids pick up the slack instead of pay people better, allow more immigration, etc.
Welcome to the dystopia.
I figure without all the Gov-Gangster-Theft; I could work < 30 hours. Course there is all those Gov-Gangster-Guns ensuring by regulatory capture that everyone works harder and harder to support the [WE] Gov-Gangster Gang of criminals.
Right idea; entirely wrong premise. You've been indoctrinated with the "crony capitalism" oxymoron Nazi-cheer (claptrap) camp. It has been and always will be crony socialism.
As-if the growing wealth disparity matching the growing socialism (propagandized to stop it) wasn't a dead *reality* give-away.
First paragraph is right. Second paragraph is wrong on every point.
Yes, there were many predictions that increased productivity would increase leisure time. Look, for example, at the ads for vacumns, ovens and other home appliances in the 1950s and 60s. Instead, we mostly chose to raise our standards of living. We now consider cleaner homes and more stuff to be the standard. We voluntarily gave up the potential for increased leisure for a higher standard of living than our great-grandparents could even imagine.
Technological advancement is normal. But technology keeps getting cheaper and better. so the higher standard of living should nonetheless cost less and less, hence no need to sacrifice leisure time.
And see, for example, this: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/appliance-shopping-1959-vs-2012/
Not to denigrate that article but I think you missed my point. Before the popularization of vacuum cleaners, people swept their homes by hand. Using a vacuum requires much less labor per cleaning. As a society, we responded by increasing the frequency of cleaning. We all now live in much better, cleaner homes – a choice that we made mostly instead of maintaining the old standard of cleanliness and doing something else with the time.
As a side note, technological advancement is very much not historically “normal”. The advancement that we now take for granted is a product of a relatively rare confluence of political, social, economic and other historical factors – factors that history shows can be easily lost if we are not very careful.
Nobody forces you to work.
Start your own business, then see how much time off you have.
Child labor laws were introduced because adults didn’t want to compete with children in the labor market, not because work is evil. You can see how obvious that is by taking an honest look at what public school does to them all day.
If your money problems are caused, in part, by competing with children for your job, then your problem is you never grew up. That’s not capitalisms fault. That’s on you.
Child labor laws were introduced to protect children from being exploited for cheap labor, not to protect adults from losing their jobs. Because children historically have been exploited for cheap labor. Children historically haven't been any market competition for adult jobs.
You just keep telling yourself that.
If “children” i.e. young people didn’t do the jobs, who would if not adults?
Now take the number of hours worked and adjust for the labor participation rate. How many hours are being worked on average, shitlunches?
Work is good for kids. It's a good thing that we don't make kids forgo education and normal childhood so they can go work in a factory 60 hours/week, but learning how to work and what it means to have a job is really important and something that seems to be lacking in a lot of young people. People who never had a job until they graduate high school or college tend to be pretty useless employees.
I so agree. Also coming into the workforce as a teen without a HS diploma or college degree gives you an idea of what you'll be doing for the rest of your life if you don't get your ass in gear. At least for those who yearn for something better.
Bravo, Arkansas. Absolutely yes, you want teens working in the real economy just as soon as they are able. All work is honorable, no matter how humble or small the job. And every job deserves to be done right.
On my very first job I learned what it takes to complete a task fully and competently. You don't learn that on the Internet, you learn that by doing.
It's probably better for society as a whole to have most people getting their first job in their teens. They have to learn a bit about managing money, they start developing a useful skillset (as important as it is for people to understand the historical roots of our society, there's not many jobs where you're required to know who was elected consul in 205 BC), and have to be responsible if they want to get paid.
You're just a Scipio Africanus hater
Cartago delenda est!
But in the midst of a national labor crunch, Arkansas is hardly alone in contemplating loosened restraints on teenage workers.
There is no 'labor crunch'. There is:
a)a labor market where increased wages are the solution to hiring the people that an employer needs and
b)a massive incompetence by employers in figuring out how to recruit employees beyond the automated screening mechanisms that lazy employers have increasingly relied on for a couple of decades.
Wages as a % of GDP from 1947-2013 The % has risen only slightly since 2013 (all since 2020).
"...b)a massive incompetence by employers in figuring out how to recruit employees beyond the automated screening mechanisms that lazy employers have increasingly relied on for a couple of decades..."
Cite missing.
Assertions from lefty shits =/= argument or evidence.
The problem Arkansas has is an $11 minimum wage. Abolish that shit. Some 15 year olds are going to prove to be very industrious and will give you value, and they can negotiate up their price, but others aren't going to be providing $11 an hour in value. If you could pay them $7.50 an hour, you might find they provide value commensurate to the cost.
When I was 14 and working at the grocery store, I saw union dues on my first paycheck and asked the manager how to get out of the union. He promptly laughed in my face.
Good thing the UFCW was there to make sure I didn't get paid more for wanting to do twice as much work per shift as the middle aged people going through the motions. I promptly switched to the produce department where a four hour shift meant cutting up a few melons and pineapples (seriously, I had a task list and it was to cut six melons and core eight pineapples), breaking down the salad bar, and then eating chicken wings and drinking beers with the cute checkout girls and one of the deli dudes.
"When I was 14 and working at the grocery store, I saw union dues on my first paycheck and asked the manager how to get out of the union. He promptly laughed in my face."
This is Michigan, you ungrateful little shit. Do you think you have a "right to work"?
"Gotta admit – loosening child labor laws was not on my Top 10 List for our CA legislative session this year," huffed California Gov. Gavin Newsom
I can’t imagine why not. This is a whole new class of humans California could quickly start paying to do nothing. Think of it as yet another policy to galvanize a child into lifelong ward of the state. Stranger still, progressive intransigence on the subject is at odds with the autonomy espoused in their abortion and transitioning advocacy for children.
CA's end goal might be for people to do absolutely nothing while the State takes care of them. Working productively for a living is anathema to that.
"A shift in teens' time allocation from market work to leisure or other activities that do not increase their human capital may negatively affect their future productivity,"
In other words, sitting on your ass all day on your phone or computer playing games and chatting with your besties might not be the best use of your time.
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If you guys listened to our elite betters you would know that work is racist, sexist, and generally icky. And you would agree that the most important thing is to extend childhood indefinitely, at least for the elite. How else will the Eloi emerge?
Consider this; when teens go to work, they find out where taxes actually come from, and that's a bad thing for democrats.
When my son was growing up my wife and I had a small commercial printing business. He hung out there from the time he was a baby so we had no daycare worries. He started doing manual stuff like collating when he was six. By the time he was nine he was running the big right angle folder. I paid him piecemeal and he was clearing 9 bucks an hour if he hustled. He learned a work ethic and he always knew that the money came from happy customers. He's in his thirties now and very successful.
All of this child labor shit is absurd. Why would it be a problem if kids learn about the real world and make some spending money? All farm kids grow up working and they are an essential part of the family business. Leave them kids alone.
Funny, growing up my dad owned a print shop. I worked as a messenger until I was old enough to be trusted with the paper cutter (I think these critics would lose their shit at the thought of a 14 year old working a Heidelberg paper cutter) and prepare the smaller shipping jobs. We were taught early on that if we wanted something we should work to earn the money to pay for it. That lesson has served me well.
Of course they're pissed. They didn't spend the last 60+ years creating a culture of dependency, looking down their noses at the very concept of hard work all the while promoting welfare traps as "altruism" and conning millions of gullible morons into pursuing over priced college degrees in order to prop up academia (and ensure a steady supply of impressionable young minds to warp) only to have this bitch come along and throw a monkey wrench into the works at the 11th hour. How dare she!
FFS, we're talking about making it easier for teenagers (14-15 year olds) to get part time jobs at the Mickey D's or Starbucks or whatever without having to get a government permission slip first. These halfwits are making it sound like she just made it legal for factories to hire 12 year olds because they're skinny enough to fit into tight spaces in the machines to manually clear jammed gears or some shit. These douche canoes need to get a fucking grip. And Gavin Newsom can go fuck himself in the ass with a running chainsaw.
That cobalt is not gonna mine itself. Democrats need iPhones, dammit.
overreaction is a little delicious.
Child labor is an intolerable injustice against human dignity that capitalism inflicts on children, with the obvious exception for child actors, musicians, and social influencers on youtube.
Sarc or stupidity?
I suspect the former.
I'm thinking parody.
Sure it had nothing to do with this:
https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2023/02/19/arkansas-meat-processor-plants-busted-for-child-labor-violations-amid-national-push-to-ease-child-labor-rules
And if it did?
That a few companies in Arkansas get nailed with millions in fines for illegal employment of minors and then Arkansas passes a bill making it easier to employ minors???
I would like to see what political contributions were made by the meat packing industry while the fed investigation was ongoing. Because it seems kinda convenient that the timing of it all happened as it did.
Companies go through 3rd party contractors to supply child labor for some type of plausible deniability all the time. It's a known issue. And no, I don't think a kid who works a full 3rd shift daily is going to be fit to go to school or you know..have a normal childhood. Maybe that isn't important to you. Or maybe you don't care. But its still fucked up. It is exploitive especially when the kids are migrants or even illegals who just want money to send home to family in Honduras or whatever. Making that easier, when these problems are known, and saying they are doing it for "liberty" is rather Orwellian. We aren't talking about a fucking paper route. These kids are wearing hazmat suits exposing themselves to who knows what carcinogens so the meat packing company can save a few bucks. Its fucked up.
Are there not still limitations on the hours minors can work? I think that's pretty standard.
In any case, the existing laws failed to stop the practices you are talking about, and the change won't make it legal. It's a completely separate issue from making it easier for a teen to get an after school job.
None of the companies caught in that sting operation would have suffered even one less infraction if this Arkansas bill had already been in effect. Those companies were caught violating federal child labor laws. They had kids working longer, later and at more dangerous jobs than federal law allows. From what I can tell, all those kids had the necessary permission slip to have a job - and that permission slip didn't stop these infractions.
So, no, there is no connection between those crimes (which would still be crimes under the Arkansas law) and this minor attempt to trim some unnecessary bureaucracy.
Wave them arms, WCA! Pound the table, too!
And buzz off.
Starting our company in the '60s, we paid some neighborhood kids a couple of bucks to sweep the shop floors; we'd be busted for that now.
Instead, kids are currently paid in (tax-funded) non-profits, learning early on that government is the source of money, not commerce.
"Citing the dangers of illegal child labor involving migrant children, critics immediately attacked the idea of eased legal employment."
Gee, now perhaps you know how many of us feel when illegal aliens get conflated with legal immigrants. Constantly and consistently.
The only reason the critics (Liberals) are losing their minds is that it is a Republican Governor doing it. Be careful Libs. Some of you have such small minds that you can't afford to lose any of it.
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remember...you need permission from the government to work. how are the libs going to groom the next generation of they are working. we need them glued to a screen for mind melt
I started working when I was 14 in Toledo OH. That allowed me to purchase a car in high school, which allowed me to get to many more activities for school and with my friends. Before that, I moved lawns, raked leaves and shoveled snow for spending money. It made a huge difference in my life. Good to see this.
Oh, good, another law that legalizes our liberty!
Since the ratification of the US constitution, the feds, ie., lawmakers, LEOs, courts, have conspired to deny rights, for fun & profit (control & personal financial exploitation). What was the justification for giving an elite the power to initiate violence against us? PROTECTION OF RIGHTS! What happens? DENIAL OF RIGHTS! Could it be we are supporting the wrong political paradigm? Can violence protect us from violence? Or, should we use REASON, RIGHTS, CHOICE? Do we need a new political paradigm? Think about it. Freedom hangs in the balance.
Is the existing certificate (permit) routinely approved? The statutory bit being repealed doesn't list any criteria, so are those being left as a useless appendage in the consolidated laws, or would they still have applicability to someone, or are there really entirely up to unstated discretion of some bureaucrat?
From what I read above, looks no different from the "working papers" that I got in NY. So this is about a trivial repeal of a trivial requirement. In practice it may not affect a single child's employment or lack thereof.