Need an Adderall Prescription? Good Luck Getting It Over Telehealth.
On Friday, the DEA unveiled a plan to restrict doctors' ability to prescribe controlled drugs over telehealth.

Last week, the Biden administration proposed new regulations on doctors' ability to prescribe certain medications via telehealth, a policy suggestion that the administration framed as necessary to combat the opioid epidemic and prevent unnecessary prescriptions of controlled drugs. However, the proposed change would also make obtaining necessary—even life-saving—drugs more difficult, especially for those living in rural areas.
During the early stages of the COVID pandemic, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) temporarily lifted restrictions on doctors' ability to write prescriptions for controlled drugs via telehealth. However, the agency is poised to bring telehealth under regulation again, bringing back strict limits on how and when doctors can prescribe certain drugs.
DEA officials announced the proposed regulations on Friday. The rules would render most controlled drugs ineligible for prescription via telemedicine appointment—severely restricting patients' ability to obtain drugs without an in-person examination.
"DEA is committed to the expansion of telemedicine with guardrails that prevent the online overprescribing of controlled medications that can cause harm," DEA Administrator Anne Milgram said in a Friday press release.
However, the proposal contains several carve-outs. Under the policy, Schedule III-V controlled medications can still be prescribed via telemedicine. But patients would be limited to a 30-day supply, after which the patient would be required to have an in-person visit in order to get a refill. The same exception applies to buprenorphine, a drug used to treat opioid substance abuse. Further, under the proposed rule, patients can get indefinite prescriptions for controlled substances via telehealth but only if they are referred to a telehealth physician after receiving an in-person examination by another doctor.
The proposed rule would affect all "controlled" prescription drugs, a wide range of drugs including not only opioids like oxycodone and Vicodin but also other drugs like Adderall for ADHD and Ambien for insomnia. The proposed changes will go into effect in mid-May, immediately after the announced end of the COVID-19 national emergency.
Officials justified the regulations by citing concerns over the risk of overprescription of controlled drugs. While administration officials did mention the benefits that telehealth services bring to rural Americans, there is little consideration of how these services are equally important to many who rely on controlled drugs—and the increased risk that desperate patients will turn to significantly more dangerous drugs to alleviate their symptoms.
"As a health policy lawyer w. chronic pain & ADHD, I cannot overstate how unnecessary & cruel this policy is given what visits look like in person v. Telehealth," wrote health policy lawyer Madeline T. Morcelle on Twitter. "Or how deadly this could be for those who struggle to get to [appointments] due to disability or transport/geographic barriers."
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DEA?
A three letter federal agency?
Defund them completely and immediately.
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He needs a prescription for cyanide.
>>Adderall for ADHD
life saving?
My thoughts too. I would say that a lack of Adderall might be just what the doctor ordered.
we got our cocaine the old fashioned way.
On the street corner from that pusherman over there.
Cue the Superfly soundtrack.
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I have ADD. When I take the medications I've been prescribed, I am capable of working effectively. When I don't, I'm less so.
Since I need to work to eat, that's fairly life saving.
fair enough. is why I brought it up.
It also allowed me to maintain proper focus when "working" equated to "driving a 40 ton truck on interstate highways" back in '21. It's admittedly less obviously safety critical now that I've gone back to computers.
Likewise, telemedicine was *quite* convenient when I was out on the road for ten weeks at a time.
I bet.
It's a regulation that ignores people who have actual jobs versus 9 to 5 office drones. And, of course, those who live in remote locations.
And you can still get Adderall, even via telemedicine. You only need to be seen in person for the initial diagnosis.
Whether you should take amphetamines regularly is another question. It is far better to try to manage without drugs.
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Lunatic fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding
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If it saves the life of even no people...
DEA is committed to the expansion of telemedicine with guardrails
Because Mayor Pete isn't using guardrails.
Is this the same DEA that wants to allow the prescription of a pill that induces a miscarriage to be gotten from a vending machine?
The pill from the vending machine, not the miscarriage.
That ties into enabling the infant blood sacrifice for the Democrat’s Progressive Orthodox Church.
Does this mean I won't be able to get my risperidone and haloperidol delivered to my bunker? Asking for Jackie.
One thing that the article does not make clear is that the Doctor only has to physically see the patient once. Renewals of the medication do not require follow-up visits to be in person - those can be via Telehealth.
Wow. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. Government Man for protecting us from ourselves. I don't how I lived these many decades without the government saving me from the scourge of Over Prescribed Drugs. Uncle Sam should be promoted to Big Brother Sam.
They clearly can't put a dent in the illegal drugs, so it only makes good sense to go after law-abiding doctors/patients/pharmacists and legally prescribed drugs. Easy meat for the win; the feds have to earn their richly deserved paychecks somehow, don't they?
As usual, the Drug Warriors are lying by omission: all the prescriptions in the world are useless when you can't get them filled! Opioids for pain and the hostility and needless suffering pain patients face are a tragic and commonly cited example. But even patients who are proactively trying to treat their addiction by slowly tapering off of opioids using medications like Buprenorphine are not immune! Buprenorphine shortages are another especially sickening example of the perverse incentives and artificial scarcity created by government meddling where it has no Constitutional authority to meddle.
DEA/ONDCP claim to want to 'expand access to Medication-Assisted Treatment' to address the opioid OD crisis they created. Yet, if a pharmacy orders over a certain arbitrary amount of sublingual Buprenorphine, it automatically triggers an 'audit' and a DEA investigation that requires the pharmacy be shut down for the duration, thereby losing ALL revenue and potentially going under.
This translates to pharmacists simply refusing to dispense opioids at all or ordering just under that arbitrary amount to avoid 'investigations' and resultant lost revenue and/or lost license. A few lucky patients may get their medicine for a month, but the artificially created shortfall ensures they may not be so lucky next month, virtually guaranteeing relapse, often with a tragic outcome.
It also impedes dosage adherence and encourages the very 'diversion' the DEA claims to want to stop: addicts take less than the prescribed dose in order to horde for themselves or share with/sell to the other local addicts who couldn't get their prescriptions filled. It's almost like Drug Warriors and Nanny Statists and DEA agents WANT certain demographics' (users of 'bad' drugs) treatment to fail! I'd have at least a modicum of respect for these types if they'd cast off their phony 'concern' and were just honest about their true motives.
The federal government has no constitutional authority to meddle in drugs, but states certainly do.
Drugs are controlled for law abiding patients because the government wants to minimize accidental drug addiction. Doctors carelessly prescribing drugs and hurting their patients is probably the biggest cause of disease in the US today.
I saw this problem with audits and limits late summer and early fall last year, when we were stuck in Las Vegas. Wife had back surgery, and she needed pain meds for it, as we waited for her to heal up enough to go home. None of the pharmacies around downtown could fill her pain meds. None. All had the same excuse - they had hit their quota. Must have talked to several dozen pharmacies. Imagine that you can’t travel, and need post operative pain meds for the pain from replacing two disks, and stabilizing her lower back. Luckily, I had the bright idea of reaching out to the pharmacy in the hospital where the surgery had been performed. They originally balked a bit, but the scripts were written by the surgeon himself, and he was doing enough surgery at that hospital (our hospital bill for the surgery and 2 days there afterwards was >$400k) that they ultimately consented. It was a month of driving way out west every week to the hospital to fill them, but we got it done.
One of the things that seemed relevant to finding a pharmacy under its quota was socioeconomic. I see this in PHX, where, living right next to N Scottsdale, it is relatively easy to get scripts filled for opioids. The closer you get to downtown, and the less affluent parts of town, the harder it gets. Like many medium to large cities, the city center tends to be much less affluent, with more people needing to have scheduled drugs dispensed to them. Vegas may be worse than many due to the transience of those visiting there concentrating on the Strip, and a serious homeless problem surrounding it.
Adderall is similar to meth. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that you can’t just order it over the Internet.
Snorting Adderall is a real thing and it can be addictive. It does need to be somewhat regulated.
Know a young guy who started Adderall in junior high, pushed, of course, by the school. After graduation from HS, he moved to taking it in the evenings, combining it with pot and some harder drugs. Yes, it can be misused, and is so frequently. Thank you female teacher’s union members who find it easier to deal with girls and drugged males. Luckily, when he turned 21, he decided to get his life together, gave up drugs, and that included the Adderall.
Both my kids have been diagnosed with ADHD yet both do very well in school, so their doctor has told us that they don’t need adderall, and even if he did, don’t think we would do it. It’s a very powerful drug, and a doctor, Russell Barkley, was paid handsomely by a Pharma company to promote it as the only treatment for ADHD. Not surprisingly, the spike in ADHD diagnoses coincided with common core education.
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Think of all the jobs this will create for Joe Biden to brag about.
They will need to hire more people to schedule the appointments, then more to take patients’ vital signs, then more to enforce the law against doctors who refuse to comply.
That’s stupid. People aren’t currently diagnosed with ADHD over the Internet, and that’s all we’re about here: the initial diagnosis.
For many prescription drugs, you can now just go in the Internet and order them after filling in a form. That’s fine for Viagra and hair loss medication, but not for hard drugs.
Before you put people on a lifetime of meth, is it too much to expect for them to be seen in person once?