How To Answer North Korea's New Nuclear Taunt
Denuclearization is not possible at any remotely acceptable price, and that may not change for decades to come.

North Korea's parade of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) on Wednesday was certainly an impressive show. Whether it was more than a show—whether the large missile canisters which rolled through the capital of Pyongyang were functional solid-fuel missiles capable of delivering a nuclear strike to the U.S. mainland—is harder to say. But even if the new ICBMs on display weren't ready for use, as some experts have speculated, there's no denying the North Korean regime is on an unsettling trajectory as of late.
Last year was by far the isolated nation's busiest on record for missile testing, and in September, dictator Kim Jong Un made his rationale for this arsenal newly explicit: He views the United States' attempts to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula as a regime change project and, accordingly, will neither give up his nukes—no matter the severity of international pressure or his own promises to then-President Donald Trump in 2018—nor legally limit his nuclear use to defensive strikes. Kim has drawn "an irretrievable line," he said, "so that there can be no bargaining over our nuclear weapons."
Even if we read this new ICBM display as a sullen invitation to renewed talks (and Pyongyang says it wants nothing of the sort), the overall trend is grim. If North Korea is unwilling to consider denuclearization, and Washington—per Biden administration policy, reaffirmed as recently as last month—is unwilling to consider anything else, are we at a final impasse? Is this the end of nuclear diplomacy with North Korea?
It doesn't have to be. Though alarming, nothing here marks a substantive shift in North Korean policy. There's a basic continuity in the Kim regime's goals as well as its constraints.
Unfortunately, there's also a basic continuity in Washington's denuclearization delusion, which constantly undercuts any chance of real progress in negotiations. If this latest show of force from Pyongyang changes anything, then, it should be to shift U.S. policy toward a recognition that our extant deterrence capabilities can maintain an imperfect but demonstrably tolerable status quo within which we can pivot to more achievable, incremental diplomatic aims.
That shift is particularly needed now, as rising tensions and a comparatively hawkish administration have South Korea—usually the voice of reason in the Korean-U.S. triad—hinting at a newly escalatory approach. Since the start of the new year, when Kim ordered the "exponential" expansion of his nuclear cache, South Korean President Yoon Suk-yeol has repeatedly signaled he's considering a more aggressive posture. He's floated ideas including U.S.-South Korean drills involving American nuclear weaponry, South Korean development of its own nuclear arsenal, and Seoul jettisoning the military agreement that came out of 2018's inter-Korean talks.
Those options would mark a significant change from years of South Korea walking basically the path Washington should follow. "The priority should be on deterring the use of nuclear weapons," South Korean Defense Minister Lee Jong-sup said just this past October, "by giving [Pyongyang] a clear sense that if North Korea attempts to use nuclear weapons, it will bring about an end to the North Korean regime and it will disappear completely."
Unlike denuclearization, that's a viable strategy, because the North Korean government has long signaled Kim's belief, informed by the last two decades of U.S. policy in Iraq and Libya, that American intentions are less about peace than Kim's own ouster.
This is unflattering but, as the Cato Institute's Doug Bandow argued at Foreign Policy, not irrational. "History proves that powerful nuclear deterrence serves as the strongest treasure sword for frustrating outsider's aggression," said a North Korean state media editorial in 2016. Deposed and dead despots Saddam Hussein and Muammar al-Qaddafi couldn't "escape the fate of destruction after being deprived of their foundations of nuclear development and giving up undeclared programs of their own accord," the article continued. It's clear Kim intends to be too canny to make the same mistake.
The point of Kim's tests and comments over the last year, then, is a message for the world generally and the U.S. specifically: North Korean nuclear weapons aren't going anywhere, and North Korea is not interested in negotiating as if they were.
The right response for Washington is not to give up on diplomacy, let alone to reify Kim's regime change fears by joining Seoul in its new hobby of saber-rattling. It is—as our approach should have been all along—to pursue realistic diplomatic outcomes which will help keep the peace.
That means setting aside denuclearization as a goal for the foreseeable future. Instead, President Joe Biden should bargain for incremental steps like a nuclear freeze, a peace treaty for the Korean War, and at least an economic opening of North Korean society to improve ordinary North Koreans' basic quality of life.
All the while, despite Kim's habitual belligerence, as long the U.S. and our allies do not initiate war with North Korea, U.S. conventional and nuclear deterrence should continue to hold. Beyond its nuclear arsenal, Pyongyang is fundamentally weak, and Kim's will to power (not to mention his will to live) works in our favor here.
None of those incremental goals, if accomplished, would directly denuclearize North Korea. But denuclearization is not now possible at any remotely acceptable price, and that may not change for decades to come. What is possible is increased stability and normalcy, fewer parades and weapons tests, more productive talks, better and freer lives for the North Korean people, and a lessened risk of global catastrophic warfare.
All of that is no less true than it was before this apparent new ICBM build, and these achievements could, very slowly, lay a foundation for Kim's denuclearization "never" to someday become a "maybe."
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Kim wants none of those. He wants to remain in power, the big frog in a small pond, his stance is entirely rational considering what happened to those denucleared dictators, and he's not going to negotiate away his literal life preserver. But neither is he going to use his nuclear weapons, because he knows it would be the end of his small pond, and so do the generals who would have to carry out his commands.
The best thing to do is just ignore him. Keep up military drills with South Korea, sure, if there are going to be treaties and realpolitik. But don’t offer to negotiate, don’t wheedle, don’t bluster, just ignore the idiot.
Probably. I don't imagine you keep power for that long being completely deranged and irrational. He knows he'd lose if he really started something. But if the US or anyone tries to seriously go after his power, then who knows what he'd do. I don't really want to find out.
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"The best thing to do is just ignore him. "
It would be better to put a formal end to the Korean war. It's a mere formality, but could set in motion other trust building exercises that would ease tensions and improve relations with the south. But with Biden and Yoon both in power, none of this seems likely. Too bad nothing came of Trump's North Korean initiative.
" just ignore the idiot."
Assuming your opponent is an idiot is never a good idea. If you're frustrated and reduced to bluster and insult, that's another thing, but it's probably wise to assume your opponent (and his staff) is just as clever and cunning as you are.
North Korea doesn't want a peace treaty to be finalized. They place pre-conditions on meetings and then change the conditions repeatedly, eventually cancelling everything because the other side is being non-cooperative. It is basically in the North's (Kim's) best interest to not have a treaty.
Biden didn’t even have the stones to knock down a balloon, what’s he going to do when the nukes are in the air?
Nukes for South Korea! Nukes for Japan! Get OUT of their way! "Containment" of nuclear proliferation has clearly FAILED! Live in reality!
Also nukes for Ukraine, since the Russians and their promises can NOT be trusted! See "Budapest Memorandum"! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
Observe that totalitarian China primly abstains from marching thugs into Taiwan the way it did Tibet and Hong Kong. Surely there must be a reason for such selective fastidiousness, and I'd bet money it's not concern over violating the nonaggression principle.
Quite possibly because you can't march to Taiwan, you have to swim.
Holy shit, is he getting fatter? I imagine if any of his malnourished subjects points out the stark contrast they and their families will disappear.
That probably comes from him eating his subjects. He does resemble a Korean version of Fat Bastard. Must have got some good recipes from Idi Amin Dada.
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Hey Bonnie. Remember when Trump went to North Korea and shook hands with Kim on the tarmac? Remember how NK was a lot less belligerent for the duration of the Trump presidency? Remember how outfits like Reason campaigned to put the neocon adults back in charge? The diplomacy you want was already happening but your boy Biden pissed it away. Fuck off.
We all remember WW4.
No WW5.
WW4 happened when Trump copied Japanese Prime Minister Abe and dumped goldfish food into a koi pond.
Kim Jong-un is giving off some serious John Candy vibes in that picture for some reason. Must be the hat.
I would suggest that rising tensions with China also figure into the equation. China effectively holds Kim's leash, and they have little incentive to keep him in check. He is a useful distraction.
The upside seems to be that NK leaders seem to have decreasing life spans and at some point, the next Kim will be too young to lead. Hopefully a shift from the Kim dynasty will improve relations, if it happens soon enough.
After the Qing Dynasty was beheaded in 1911, it is not easy to discern any obvious improvement. Nor did it take long for Japan to replace England in China's continuing saga of absolutist prohibitionism--now saddled with communist dogma to boot.
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Until there are no more Totalitarian monster regimes like Kim's on this Planet, I'd say the best thing we could do is come up with some means of using Nanotechnology to disable, dismantle, deactivate, and/or sabotage any NBC weapon used by any regime who wants to initiate apocalyptic force.
We could have Nanobots fly undetected like swarms of locusts into ICBM silos. Then the Nanobots could take apart servos controlling the fins, short out circuits of the computers, radio controls, and guidance, maybe even use Graphite Nanobots to surround the fissionable nuclear core to prevent neutrons from getting through to trigger the chain reaction that produces the heat for the uncontrolled fusion explosion.
Whoever can invent such Nanobots and pull off something like this will take the Mutual, the Assured, and the Destruction out of Mutually Assured Destruction, and will be the new Super-Duper Superpower!
All Hail the Nano-Mouse That Roars!
This wishful speculation betrays innocence of how nuclear weapons work. Indeed, the most effective way of defeating them enroute is to insert neutrons into the pit itself. Uranium bombs are troublingly easy to set off, but the material is rare and costly. Plutonium only works because extraordinary measures are taken to exclude stray neutrons from initiating a chain reaction too early. Tracking and feedback have made it way easier to target things that follow ballistic trajectories, so defense is both worthwhile and feasible.
You didn’t understand, Hank. I know how they work.
The way I propose to do this, and if it worked, there would be no chain reaction because the Graphite Nanobots would keep the neutrons away from the nuclear core.
And there would be no en route because the missile servos, computer, and radio controls would be damaged by Nanobots as well. The missiles wouldn’t even take off when the countdown started.
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Amazing you write a whole article about North Korea, without mentioning China, which it basically is a vassal state of.
I'm like 95% sure that China will be the first country to run a military operation against North Korea. Sooner or later, they will create more trouble than they are worth. Probably around the next time the Chinese economy hits a slump and they have to cut the Kim's support. It's just the natural order of things. The scorpion stings, it's in its nature.
Remove the US troops from Korea. Korea ≠ United States. Playing Karen the world hall monitor is dangerous and expensive.
But profitable if you own shares in Raytheon and Lockheed.
The MIC is like a disproportionately large accounting department in a failing company.
If we could use Nanotech to take nuclear weapons apart (not to mention conventional weapons, of course,) the U.S. could afford to be a Big Switzerland, and our enemies would be Big Switzerlands too.
If Non-Intervention is good, everybody should do it...like it or not.
How To Answer North Korea's New Nuclear Taunt?
Send Dennis Rodman on a one-way ticket. Or cancel all the 1950's gangster movies that inspire Kim's fashion trends. Also cut off his Big Mac supply.
If denuclearization of the peninsula is not an option, then the only option truly is for South Korea to go nuclear.
The end game is reunification.
Free or Slave? A nation and indeed a Planet cannot be both. It's like a radio-isotope that either fizzles Half-Life or explodes.
The old poster says it all:
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"The end game is reunification."
Not necessarily. Look at the maps of the peninsula over the past 5000 years. A Korea unified under one rule is the exception. The peninsula was divided into 2 or 3 kingdoms with alliances with Japan or Korea. We can still see this today in the maps of South Korea's presidential election results. The western part of the south leans right and has strong ties with Japan (and USA) while the eastern part leans left and is more in favor of good relations with China and the north.
Yeah, the hopes of denuclearizing North Korea died March 19, 2011 at the hands of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Whatever else one might think about the Iraq War, it convinced Qaddafi to clearly and openly give up his WMD programs. And as usual, the Democrats, as soon as they had power, adopted a policy of punishing cooperation and rewarding hostility, murdering Qaddafi and sending tens of billions of dollars to Khamenei.
Predicted
On 04MAR2019 on the little-noticed website, Nation On Fire, this commentator predicted that the Kim-Trump Talks would fail. They did. Chairman Kim still has his nuclear weapons.
To Kim, these United States of America represent an oppressive “rogue nation”. Consider Iraq, Libya, Panama, and Serbia. Ask the Swiss. Kim understandably views nuclear weapons as his only real defense against a big-footed, heavy-handed, inept United States.
One consequence of the treasonous deceit by “Slick Willie” Clinton in 1994 is President Trump’s having held a weak hand. A war possibly nuclear or a nuclear-armed DPNK peddling its wares to anyone else who’ll pay. After 60+ years of defending South Korea at our own expense and risking our own survival to save Samsung, the South will betray us as soon as it suits them.
Trump initially belched fire at Kim. Kim extinguished that fire by urinating into Trump’s wide-open mouth? The fat “little rocket-man” proved himself a better strategist.
Will the demented and potentially psychotic, corrupt, traitorous Joe Biden now prove himself more adept than Trump? Whatever the case, as noted on the website, there is an alternative never discussed.
Whatever the case, there is an alternative never discussed. See “Korea: Deal? What Deal?” at ...
https://www.nationonfire.com/korean-deal/ .
You riding a nuke down to Pyongyang in your Klan robe like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove won’t do a damn thing to solve anything.
Fuck Off, Ku Klux Krud!