Survey: Americans Want K-12 Schools To Prioritize Practical Skills, Not College Prep
New survey results show that "Americans believe the K-12 education system should redirect its focus on what it means to successfully prepare American students—equipping them with practical skills that prepare them for life."

A recently published survey asked respondents to rank their K-12 educational priorities. The results were startling: Americans rank preparing students for college near the bottom of the list. This wasn't always the case. Before the pandemic, college preparation ranked 10th in a list of 57 possible priorities. Now, it ranks 47th. This shift appears to be part of a larger trend, one where Americans increasingly want individualized education that focuses on instilling practical skills in students.
The Purpose of Education Index was published by Populace, a nonpartisan think tank. The survey results show an increased desire to individualize education and instill positive character qualities in students. According to the survey, the most important goal for K-12 education should be that it provides students with practical skills, critical thinking skills, and character.
In its surveys, Populace measures respondents' privately held opinions as well as their perceptions of what others believe. The Purpose of Education Index revealed some startling gaps between respondents' opinions and what they believed the opinions of others would be. While respondents ranked college preparedness near the bottom of their list of priorities, they assumed that it would be the third most important goal for others. And while respondents ranked character development, student's ability to choose courses based on interest, and student's ability to learn at their own pace as the 3rd, 9th, and 13th most important goals on the list, respectively, respondents expected others to rank those goals as the 26th, 31st, and 52nd most important.
Todd Rose, Populace's co-founder, told Axios that the survey results convey that an "exhausted majority" wants K-12 education to shift toward giving students better critical thinking skills and helping them find a career "with meaning and purpose."
According to the survey report, the results suggest "a recognition that problem solving and making good decisions are learned skills; the American public at large wants schools to be a place where students are supported in developing those skills."
The devaluation of college preparedness is clearly connected to this broader shift in priorities—and it is reflected in real trends in college enrollment. According to NBC News, the proportion of high school graduates enrolling in college in the fall after they finish school fell from 70 percent in 2016 to 63 percent in 2020—a decline that appears to be continuing since the onset of the pandemic. With the costs of college ever increasing and a robust post-pandemic labor market, it seems that increasing numbers of young people are opting out of college—and this most recent Populace survey indicates that this choice is increasingly a popular one.
Overall, Americans are prioritizing education that is individualized and not necessarily focused on preparing every student for higher education. As the Populace survey report states, "Despite the recent emphasis placed on preparing students for competitive higher education programs, Americans believe the K-12 education system should redirect its focus on what it means to successfully prepare American students—equipping them with practical skills that prepare them for life."
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Americans should each pay the full tuition cost for each of their own children. The current socialist system gets socialist results.
I once tried imagining what a truly free market education system would be like. IIRC, it was something like …
Most primary grades would concentrate on the old three Rs — readin’ writin’ ‘rithmetic — with half the day set aside for students to take any class they chose for that day in music, art, woodshop, and other relatively impractical hands-on classes, none graded, none having any effect on progression of the 3 Rs classes. These would be day care with benefits, in effect.
As kids got older, they would add history, literature, and other humanities as they wished, again chosen on a daily basis, and again entirely ungraded and having no effect on the core graded classes. There would also be practical computer classes, classes in legal rights, how to deal with bureaucrats, and other practical classes, which would have to be signed up for on a semester or yearly basis. Music and art would also switch to semester or yearly schedules.
At some point, say 12 or 13, a lot of students would begin taking part time jobs, such as grocery baggers, plumbing apprentices; or they would begin college prep courses, like algebra, trigonometry, and calculus.
And at some point, those who had begun part time jobs would spend more and more time every day working, switching classes to practical stuff like basic accounting and dealing with business bureaucracies.
A lot of adults would take evening or weekend classes in subjects of interest like art, history, literature; and in job improvements.
Degrees would be replaced by certificates from independent testing companies, who would have reputations which mattered as much to employers as the results themselves. This would eliminate all concerns about cheating in the classes themselves. Students who were serious about proving they had learned the material would pay extra for testing companies which went the extra miles to prevent cheating. Students who merely wanted some certificate of having spent some time in classes would either show their attendance record or pay for cheap and simple testing companies.
But mainly, it would be much less structured and regimented.
I don’t even know whether I’d like such a free market education. But I think it’s more plausible than the nonsense that government indoctrination centers have become.
Homeschoolers do a lot of that already at about 5% the cost. The local Amish kids work on the farm when not being taught in their separate classroom. Bought straw from two of them that weren’t yet teens. We did the money in PA Dutch and the rest in English. They probably have never bought Pokemon or watched TikTok.
How many of them are destined for medical school? For law school? For undergraduate degrees, let alone advanced degrees?
How many will become engineers? Scientists? Employees of professional firms?
How many will be able to understand a mobile telephone contract, a hospital admission form, or a report in The New York Times?
Presumably, at least ~10-20%, roughly equivalent to CPS’s scores on similar metrics.
Edit: Aw shit. Replied to self-hating, constantly-replacing-himself-culturally, Rev. Art Bumpkin.
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And many engineers, scientists, etc., actually want the practical skills when entering a STEM-oriented college. A good CAD class can do a lot more for a budding engineer in high school than a foreign language class to prepare him/her for that choice of college major.
A high school graduate with a good CAD background can find good work right out of school. I'm still looking for three of them.
I had four years of foreign language that I have had nearly zero opportunity to ever use. Those classes were a huge waste of time. We took them because kids in Europe did. Ignoring the fact that European countries are small, border multiple other countries where different languages are spoken. So being multilingual has practical value.
Not a lot of need to speak French of German in the continental US.
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Most people don't look to the Amish for Medicine, Law, Engineering, or Science, much as the Amish make fine furniture and hobby farm implements.
Damn, most upper-tier, upper-crust, effete, elite, educated members of your so-called mainstream Liberal-Libertarian Alliance would know that!
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Who cares? At least half of the students who enter college can barely read at an 8th grade level as it is.
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Funny. I was just listening to an interview on The Political Orphanage with a guy named Gene Epstein who said basically the same thing that you just did. That beyond literacy and numeracy, there really isn't much point to schools. If people have intellectual curiosity and want to pursue it, that's great. If they don't, that's great too. You might want to look the guy up. I think you'd be interested in what he has to say. I'd leave a link but it's behind the Patreon paywall.
Does Gene Epstein have children?
Did he steer them toward college?
Did Gene Epstein attend Brandeis and the New School before advising others that there isn't much point to schools?
I am at least as interested in what this disaffected wingnut does as I am in what he says (what he says now). Is he a worthy advisor to young people considering education? Hell, he isn't even the best Gene Epstein. Not even close.
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+10000000 Well Stated.
Commie-Education is a nightmare *because* it's Commie.
I disagree with this writer's take away from the survey. This is a push back against colleges and what they are turning out. Social justice warriors who are useless. So now parents are turning to public schools to prepare students for real life since colleges are not.
New survey results show that "Americans believe the K-12 education system should redirect its focus on what it means to successfully prepare American students—equipping them with practical skills that prepare them for life."
Stuffing a dollar bill into the underwear of a man in womanface is as practical a skill as I can imagine.
Signal transmitted!
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I’ll cosine that.
Sine, sine, everywhere a sine...
Don't go off on a tangent.
Is he being obtuse again?
Just an acute case of mental illness.
How euclidean.
More like Pythagorean.
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I can’t imagine that I would want my child to learn life skills from a high school teacher.
Next year's curriculum will include classes in drag queen and trans politics.
Health classes for boys will include how to apply make up and what dresses will go with eye shade.
The rest of the world will laugh and smirk as America continues its decline into the abyss.
i would say getting the Dollar Bill is better, with or without Womanface.
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Todd Rose, Populace's co-founder, told Axios that the survey results convey that an "exhausted majority" wants K-12 education to shift toward giving students better critical thinking skills and helping them find a career "with meaning and purpose."
El... oh... fucking el.
That's "X... oh... fucking x." you cis, white colonizer bigot.
"Americans believe the K-12 education system should redirect its focus on what it means to successfully prepare American students—equipping them with practical skills that prepare them for life."
No one ever pretended K-12 prepared students for life.
The current K-12 system has two major purposes, and one minor purpose. Provide good wages for teachers and especially administrators, provide a reliable supply of democrat voters, and the minor one, groom as many kids as possible.
Provide day care so parents can be good workers.
Indoctrination, wealth redistribution and daycare.
You left out another important point, provide funding for the teacher's unions.
So schools should not be used to "teach" what gender one is or to what victim class one belongs?
Depends as to which gender also certifies which victim classification but it all boils down to white male heterosexual, misogynist, rayciss, transphobic, homophobe.
Not everyone is cut out for college, or wants to go. Give practical skills to the rest so they can get a job when they graduate.
Personal money management? Maybe, but that should be the job of parents. Character training? Definitely parents.
Everyone is cut out to be burdened with a college loan. At least from the view of government who would control the loan including a prospect of forgiving some or all of said loan in exchange for obedience. Crazy that government is also contemplating setting that four year college degree requirement.
In order for this to be remotely possible the schools will need to employ teachers that have practical skills. Seeing as 99% of school employees are retarded activist Marxists, none of them have practical skills
^^^ THIS ^^^
People seem to misunderstand the purpose of education. It's not to teach useful things to kids and prepare them for adulthood. That's such a silly way to look at it.
Education is a jobs program for teachers, administrators, and other flunkies who couldn't hack it at the Post Office. Any educating that might happen along the way is incidental.
You left out the indoctrination part.
Those who can-do. Those who can't - teach.
Those who can't teach, teach gym.
Who knew it required Gov----> GUNS to teach children...??
Learning what "Government" actually IS would be a huge LEARNED lesson for communists/criminal minds. If it's not worth killing people over it's not worth "government" intervention.
GUNS (and the threatening FORCE of them) is the only thing that separates "Government" from any other entity.
Not addressed in this summary are 1) what education can actually achieve in the real world; and 2) what system is best suited to optimize outcomes that CAN be attained. I suggest that the least likely person to know how to tailor an education is the kid who stands to benefit the most from it. I also suggest that government should have zero influence on education, and certainly should NOT be the owner and operator of educational institutions. The excuse that it is an overriding public interest to ensure that our youth, as the future citizens of our republic, are well educated is wearing a little thin at this point in history.
The best way to ensure high quality education outcomes is to make sure the parents are involved and concerned. The simplest way to get them involved and concerned would be to charge tuition. Making schools "for profit" would also serve to eliminate excessive administrative overhead, freeing up more resources for the advancement of society.
Many people would protest and say that there is a large societal benefit to ensuring that everyone has access to a good education, even if their parents have lower incomes. So many people believe this that it should be easy to collect donations from them to fund educational scholarships for the truly needy.
It is humorous how they associate "ensuring that everyone has access to a good education" is equated to Gov-Gun usage.
It's like teaching; Nothing educates our future better than teaching them how to use Gov-Guns to get what they want.
Parents are already paying tuition in the form of taxes, you know like income tax, property tax and this tax and that tax.
Parents need to become involved in PTA and school board meetings without fear of being paid a visit by the local FBI SWAT teams.
Idiocracy prophetic once again. There seems to be a coordinated media blitz in favor of removing college degrees as a prerequisite to professional employment, not because they are not helpful or a useful indicator of fitness for the job, but because the requirement itself discriminates against the uneducated. Now we see the next link in the chain -- if you don't need a degree when you're 22, why prepare for college when you're 18?
Idiocracy was only prophetic inasmuch as a demonstration of high-minded people being completely oblivious to the fact that they too are susceptible to overconfidence bias and Dunning-Kruger. As a funny premise to get Terry Crews as President Camacho, it works. As a serious think piece, well the pre-eminently intelligent humans lose out for their inability to do what even rabbits do naturally, with zero intellect. Ayn Rand, for all her faults as a writer, did it better.
Ironically; Commie-Education (especially college degrees) generally has little to absolutely nothing to do with being a useful indicator of fitness for a job short of establishing a field of interest and having an ability to take years and years of BS.
As completely demonstrated by free-market employers who *always* chooses previous job experience over years of Commie-Education.
P.S. Open market certifications that take a matter of weeks to fulfill mean more for job performance than Commie-Education does and sell for 1/1000th the price-tag.
Except universities are completely captured by marxist shitheads and function as religious seminaries for that ideology. They aren't even worth the return on investment anymore because the graduates are whining that they need loan forgiveness.
The "diversity and equity" reasons for this are obviously retarded, but I don't think Democrats like Shapiro who want to eliminate a degree as a job requirement, realize that doing so will effectively choke off their allies from recruiting more political activists and mainstreaming leftist ideologies. Because if you don't need a degree to get a job, there's little reason to go to college, and if you don't go to college, you're going to be less likely to get indoctrinated into the marxist religion espoused by the professoriate.
It's about time.
"The results were startling: Americans rank preparing students for college near the bottom of the list."
One reason this might be the case, is that a whole bunch of people who went to college to obtain specific training, a degree, credentialing, or whatever, for a particular "job" or "industry," realized that by the time they obtained such a degree, the "market" had completely changed, often for the worst, significantly lowering the value of their education.
There ARE, on the other hand, some basic skills which will always be handy in marketing oneself: Reading, Riting, and Rithmetic
To paraphrase: "Those who survive are those who most successfully adapt to change."
The fastest and most secure way to financial security is though a trade, not a degree. A welder can always find work anywhere in the world, an accountant cannot. - In the mid 80's my (then) wife worked for a CPA. One of their clients was a sole proprietor who was a mechanic in his one person shop. He grossed $250,000/yr and had to turn away business. Granted, he was that good but it goes to show that it can be done.
And what's more: It is perfectly possible to be a profound scholar of Culture, History, and Philosophy and be a Longshoreman by trade. As evidence, I give Eric Hoffer.
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Let's start with high school. I hear all this bs from liberal art majors who are "education" experts on "STEM" to the point where it is nauseous. First, we need to drop the 19th century approach to science and technology.
Science
9th Grade: 10 weeks in each science. Start with Physics, then Chem, then Earth and finally Bio
10th Grade: Students can decide if they want to do a full year of Physics or Chemistry or Biology/Bio Chem or Technology courses (see below)
11th Grade: Continue in their choice of science (AP) or take another full year.
12th Grade: AP or none
Technology
10th Grade: Intro to Engineering (ME/EE) and Computer Science
11th Grade: Full year of Engineering or Computer Science
12th Grade: Continue Engineering or Comp Science at local community college.
So, for STEM the kids have to take at least two years of science or two years of engineering or computer science.
Math:
9th Grade: Algebra (Mandatory)
10th Grade: Geometry (1/2 year), Trig (1/2) year (Mandatory)
11th Grade: PreCalc (Optional)
12th Grade: Calc
Personal Finance: 12th Grade. Mandatory
Drop: Gender Studies/Trannie Studies/CRT
"Drop: Gender Studies/Trannie Studies/CRT"
This is a common mistake thinking there are specific SJW/WOKE courses that can be eliminated. There have been plenty of posts at VC about how math courses have been distorted to advocate WOKE ideologies and turn students into SJWs. Who can forget the 'Math is racist' bullshit we had to sit through.
Bottom line is I don't see a real solution to get rid of the current problems in the educational system.
Remove the source and it goes away. Wokism is only spread through wokies. So purge the wokies.
While I agree that removing all the wookies (that was intentional and includes Michele Obama) would solve the problem I don't agree it is realistic to think you could remove all of them not to mention replacing them with more wookies who just graduated would not help.
laughing out loud at libertarians who think that American people actually control the schools and the school curriculum.. the elites control the curriculum and they don't give a damn about vocational skills.. the elites use the schools to shape the minds of young people with the propaganda they cram in their heads.. and if you think the elites are going to give up those propaganda classes for shop classes or whatever you were out of your cotton picking mind
Did a search of this tripe for 'reading', 'writing', and 'arithmetic' and came up with 'Phrase (word) not found' for all three.
I would be great if schools taught anything other than indoctrinating kids in woke race and sex issues.
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