Don't Give U.S. Chipmakers a $76 Billion Government Handout
Making the U.S. semiconductor industry dependent on subsidies is not the way to stick it to China.

Staying a step ahead of China is a recurring theme in U.S. foreign policy. Yet the most expansive effort on the table right now to keep China in check sadly emulates the communist country's greatest weakness: the blurred line between where the state stops and the market begins. Congress is set to get the government deeply involved in the critical market of semiconductors.
In a 64-33 vote, the Senate passed the CHIPS Act on Wednesday and it will likely be signed into law by President Biden soon.* This law traces its roots back to a 2020 bill to provide $16 billion in research and development (R&D) funding for the semiconductor industry. Government R&D funding is often wasteful, but such an amount for this purpose is not unheard of.
The current legislation has swelled to a total cost of more than $400 billion. The core of the bill is $76 billion in direct funding for domestic semiconductor manufacturing through a variety of grants and tax credits. The rest of the money, beyond doubling the budget of the notoriously silly spenders at the National Science Foundation, is predictably a billion here and a billion there for vaguely named programs with even more ambiguous purposes. For example, as the Wall Street Journal editorial board pointed out, "The Commerce Department gets $11 billion, most of which it intends to plow into creating 20 new 'regional technology hubs,' which will somehow expand 'U.S. innovation capacity.'"
If the cost isn't offensive enough for Americans reeling from the effects of the pandemic-induced spending spree in Washington, the CHIPS Act may as well derive its name from the tortilla-chip flimsy arguments underlying the $76 billion handout to the semiconductor industry at the center of the bill.
Proponents of the legislation would have you believe that the U.S. is overly reliant on foreign, unreliable suppliers of semiconductors, particularly those under threat from China. Semiconductors are unbelievably important components in practically countless goods relied on every day, but that's no excuse to ignore the fact that the domestic semiconductor industry is, per a 2020 report by the Semiconductor Industry Association, "on solid footing." U.S.-based semiconductor firms hold nearly half of the global market share, and 44 percent of that production already occurs in the U.S. Moreover, these figures don't even capture firms based in allied countries such as South Korea and Taiwan that are currently spending billions of dollars to open semiconductor manufacturing facilities in the U.S.—without the need for funding.
Naturally, supporters of the CHIPS Act would argue that these major chipmakers in South Korea and Taiwan are the products of the very kind of industrial policy that the bill represents. Research by Samuel Gregg, a distinguished fellow in political economy at the American Institute for Economic Research, shows that the success of the major firms in South Korea and Taiwan correlates with a move away from government direction, despite initial investments. "Whether it is explaining East Asian economic successes or the rise of Taiwanese semiconductor companies, industrial policy explanations constantly come up short," explains Gregg.
Semiconductors may be at the leading edge of the economy and technological innovation, but that doesn't mean the industry is immune from the laws of economics and pitfalls of government intervention. While indeed there has been a recent global chip shortage, manufacturers are already reporting signs that the issue is easing, miraculously without the help of 1,000 pages and a half-trillion dollars worth of new federal programs.
The resulting waste and subsidy dependency of the CHIPS Act are bound to make competition with China more difficult by further emulating the communist state's involvement in the private sector.
UPDATE: This piece has been updated to include the Senate's passage of the CHIPS Act.
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I keep getting told that China is kicking our collective asses economically, and it's because their government is involved in all of the corporations. If it wasn't for central planning and government involvement, China's economy would suck. That's why we need tariffs, tariffs and more tariffs, because doing business with any Chinese company is doing business with the government.
Now if that is all true, and China is an economic powerhouse because of, as opposed to in spite of, government involvement in the economy, then shouldn't we demand more government involvement in our economy?
You forgot about the slave labor aspect.
The lack of pollution controls likely has as much to do with it as anything else. China has no problem being the world's brownfield.
and the fake data and the misdirected investment and the payoffs, all of which count as GDP
Slavery is government enforcing laws that treat people as property. How is that forgotten when I say government involvement in the economy? Oh, it's not. You're just saying something stupid to entertain stupid people.
I am old enough to remember when Japan was going to kick our ass. People were freaking out about it.
But this time it's different!
And the Japs were buying all our land too. Oh no! Japanese people are buying all the golf courses and hotels! Oh no! Remember?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11033497/China-spent-6-1-BILLION-property-year-country.html
China spent $6.1 BILLION on US property last year - more than any other country - and 31% of the homes Chinese buyers purchased were in California, with Florida most popular state for foreign buyers overall
Same story, different players.
You're just saying something stupid to entertain stupid people.
Two differences:
1) we weren’t potential military adversaries with Japan at the time.
2) Japan has private corporations. Or something damned close to it. Chinese corps are barely disguised wings of the state.
First you didn't know 1Q GDP was negative then you dont k ow china's economy is also decreasing. Man. What do you actually know and contribute here besides terrible hyperbolic strawman arguments?
https://qz.com/2190402/is-china-facing-a-balance-sheet-recession/
If you... then you. What do you...?
So nothing. Got it.
Tell us how you got fired. Bet it is better content than anything you've ever posted here.
Are you saying he was actually employed? I never would have guessed.
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And don't forget, Chinese companies and the CCP don't play by the rules. China is the world's most prolific thief trade secrets and they openly and notoriously violate copyright law and counterfeit goods.
Just look on Amazon to see what we're up against.
What's so stupid about all this is that copycat industries are their own worst enemies -- they divert resources from future development to copying what is already known. They are entirely different mentalities, and dictatorships are terrible at fostering forward thinking research; it requires independence and markets to rewards risks and repurpose failures. China will never pass the West in development as long as the CCP remains in charge with central planning.
Everest was extremely hard to climb, the first time. Now it's a tourist destination you have to book in advance. Central planning can never invent anything: Pop-Tarts, Star Trek, personal computers, iPods. They can only copy.
One thing, I'm very curious about, is what regulatory barriers would could lower rather than just throw money at things.
That would actually solve problems. This way grows government power.
Quiet, you. Certain things are not up for discussion in polite company.
I honestly don't know what they are. I know Intel is opening two fabrication plants in Arizona as well. One is open already, I think. So, there is growth without this bill.
I do think this highlights a current problem which is that the government's ideas are almost exclusively to throw money at problems now. Makes sense, we are rich as shit, but we have a lot of history saying that it doesn't necessarily work.
I've not studied the issue either. Microchips are one of those things that the US should manufacture very well since it's capital-intensive and requires a skilled and educated workforce. If I were to guess, why we've grown less competitive in this space, particularly at the bleeding edge of it, probably has less to do with the macro policy environment and more with the particular talents of the key players themselves.
A big part of it is who our manufacturers in country are. Like Intel. They've got their niche and are booked up.
A lot of what's coming out of Taiwan is more run of the mill stuff. Psocs for automotive, simpler semiconductors and the like. It's lower margin stuff, but electronics manufacture is very energy intensive. Energy is more expensive here, not just labor -- if you want an interesting read learn about how they are made. From heating the silicon up to thousands of degrees and spinning it in a centirfuge then cooling it into a rod and slicing it ridiculously thin on out...
I'm guessing since it was cheap abroad companies onshore invested in higher margin items. It's not just in the US, several components I used to use from French companies are no longer made in the EU anymore. Any dirty and energy intensive manufacturing comes at a much higher cost these days than just the energy, especially when you get to crap like carbon offsets and other hidden regulatory burdens that can really add up.
All conjecture, but now I'm interested. Still, the solution isn't to prop up with tax dollars, all that happens there is the government gives politicians dollars to pass out to their crony companies to buy voters.
To be fair, there is a national interest issue.
The recent chip shortages that blew up the supply chains pointed to this.
The best way to control one's enemy, is to become their supplier. You can cut that off at any time and leave them dead in the water.
True.
Except that Taiwan isn't our enemy. They're an excellent world friend, in fact. The fact that they harbor the lions share of the semiconductor manufacturing for some very popular chips is unfortunate, either way, but it's nothing nefarious.
The problem isn't us being squeezed here, it's a cascading issue of shutdowns just as demand increased, and more demand piling on. Everyone locked at home during the pandemic wanted something new -- a laptop, a tablet, a new TV -- just as there were hiccoughs in the manufacturing. After that people were spending their stimulus on cars and electronics, but also other pressures were hitting. Like worldwide cellular networks were upgrading to 5G.
Chip making is tough. You need a super clean facility, a cascade of supporting facilities for the processes, and all of those have to get through permitting and environmental regulations and a million other hassles. When you set up a line it only has a 5 year or shorter shelf life before whatever it's making is done and it has to be retooled, so time is of the essence, as well.
Anyway, if it's worth doing, now is when it's worth doing. There'll be a shortage until the end of the year, at least, and demand is going to remain high even if there's a recession. If the feds were really about more chips in the US they'd back off regulations. Giving money out is just them picking winners, and that's how you get Solydras. We need more Intels and AMDs.
This.
Handouts are bad, government doesn't do things right, and this government especially fucks everything up.
But relying on foreign production for key components of just about everything is a HUGE problem.
I don't know what the answer is, but "keep domestic production minimal and count on being able to import what we need forever" sure as hell isn't it.
Especially if it is from China.
Have not read it yet, but i found this.
https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/no-permits-no-fabs/
I agree.
The government should instead focus on giving tens of billions to Ukraine so they can fight Russia. We need to punish Putin for cheating Hillary Clinton out of the White House.
#StillWithHer
Here you go
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-government-asks-us-provide-gas-lend-lease
According to Foreign Policy, one of the proposals that has been floated by Ukrainian officials would be for the US to provide Ukraine with 6 billion cubic meters of liquefied natural gas (LNG) without collecting payment for two years. The US would deliver the LNG to terminals in Europe, where it will be shipped to Ukraine via pipeline.
Yuriy Vitrenko, the CEO of the Ukrainian state-owned gas company Naftogaz, discussed the lend-lease proposal in Washington earlier this month. "They were surprised to hear such an idea, but it was well received," Vitrenko said.
It’s estimated that the 6 billion cubic meters of LNG would cost about $8 billion. So far, the US has authorized $54 billion to spend on the war in Ukraine, more than half of which is for military aid. But the US is expected to spend more as the current funding is only meant to last through September 30.
And, if the war goes against Ukraine, do you the Russians are going to assume that debt?
>>Staying a step ahead of China is a recurring theme in U.S. foreign policy.
30-year mass-fail.
Market failure.
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New plan for fedgov. Don't give ANYONE any money please. Just stop.
Thanks.
Campaign coffers don't fill themselves. Gotta hand out money and favors to special interest.
Not only is it bad policy, but it doesn't even meet its intention of guaranteeing chip supply. Chips are a global commodity. If we convince Samsung to build a factory here instead of South Korea, we haven't actually made anything more reliable. Even if we export control the chips, there will still be a shortage of finished product, as we won't be able to import those from abroad if there aren't chips available overseas.
The problem with modern manufacturing is that the equipment/facility costs are relatively high and labor costs are relatively low. Therefore, they are all running 3 shifts to make maximum use of the equipment, even though they are probably having to pay the graveyard shift extra. As a result, when a shortage does hit, there is relatively little that manufacturers can do to use overtime to handle any shocks that occur.
The toilet paper and baby formula shortages prove that even totally domestic industries aren't reliable.
I'm not advocating this, but if the government wanted to use money to increase reliability in supply chains, it should be paying chip manufacturers to run only 2 shifts (I don't know if stopping chip lines is actually feasible, but ensuring that only 2/3 of the manufacturing lines are in use is equivalent). That way, in the event of a shortage, additional capacity can be brought online. However, because the capacity is normally not available, it doesn't displace private capacity building efforts to fulfill normal demand for chips.
Most humorous solution.
Yeah. I know it sounds stupid. But, if the government has determined that there is a negative externality associated with unreliable supply chains, it makes far more sense to focus the bill on creating slack than what they actually did. Moving a 99.9% utilized factory from South Korea to the US doesn't prevent shortages, as proven by the all-american toilet paper and baby formula industries suffering months long shortages.
The key is though that it needs to be proven that factories can quickly restart to respond to supply or demand shocks. All of those folks with "farms" getting paid to leave them fallow should have been told: "okay, with Ukraine-Russia war shocking global food supplies, it is time for you to start planting". That would actually help stabilize global food prices. Well, it would if it weren't for the fact that many of these fallow fields are suburban backyards with owners who haven't the slightest clue how to grow food. Similarly, the lab contracted by the CDC to maintain the capacity to mass produce tests in the event of a pandemic, needs to actually prove it can do so, otherwise, you get contaminated tests and a bust of our entire early pandemic playbook.
"tortilla-chip flimsy arguments"
WTF Man?!? Tortilla chips are structurally stronger than any other chip, including those ruffled pieces of garbage. That's it, I'm canceling my free subscription.