The End of Roe Is Republicans' Latest Excuse for Growing the Size and Cost of Government
There is demand for child tax credits, paid family leave, and funding for crisis pregnancy centers but the Rubio-Romney plan is not the answer.

The end of Roe v. Wade, pro-lifers have said since the Supreme Court overturned the longstanding abortion ruling on Friday, must be the beginning of a new era of generosity toward parents in America. For many, that undoubtedly means individual or church-organized care, but for some, it includes an embrace of federal family policy. This is not the first time there's been a conservative push for "pro-family" reform, but the movement seems to have more wind in its sails than in years past.
"The end of Roe will require a new type of politics," argued Patrick T. Brown of the conservative Ethics and Public Policy Center in The New York Times last month, pointing specifically to a plan by Republican Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Mitt Romney (Utah) as an example of the envisioned agenda.
That plan, which Rubio has been promoting since the Dobbs decision dropped, includes an expanded Child Tax Credit, more funding for several social programs, and, as its flagship, an unusual parental leave program. The gist of the leave idea is that parents could choose to receive up to 12 weeks of paid leave after birth or adoption by drawing early Social Security benefits. Several decades down the line, to compensate, they'd choose to either delay retirement by the same number of weeks or receive reduced payments for five years. Participation would be voluntary and available to at least some stay-at-home parents. And because Social Security payments are progressive, benefits would be proportionately higher for lower-income families who can least afford to take leave without pay.
It's still unclear if the Rubio-Romney plan will indeed become a GOP priority. And though proponents like Chris Rufo have praised the leave program as "cost neutral," the package as a whole would be quite costly. Even if the parental leave proposal could succeed as a stand-alone item, most of the other pieces stand no chance of federal passage—not without a new president and congressional majority, anyway. This new politics, if it's coming, won't come before 2025.
If this leave plan sounds familiar, that's because it's nearly the same proposal as the one touted by Rubio and former first daughter Ivanka Trump in 2018. It didn't catch on among Republicans then and instead caught flak from the left for "penaliz[ing] parents" instead of committing to a universal family leave plan tied to new taxes on the rich. For Reason, Shikha Dalmia dubbed it "a clever idea that certainly avoids some of the problems with rival parental leave plans" but panned the idea, writing, "it isn't like Social Security has a ton of spare cash lying around to dole out to people other than retirees."
Indeed, Social Security is already expected to begin paying reduced benefits in 2034, and early payments for parental leave would have to come from somewhere, perhaps by accelerating that reduction or raising federal taxes or debt. If Social Security is gone or much diminished by the time millennials and younger retire, there may never be any payouts for us to delay or reduce.
In either scenario, bringing these payments forward arguably isn't cost-neutral after all. Yet, as a taxpayer of childbearing age who won't retire before 2034, there's a real appeal here even if this proposal doesn't work out exactly as planned. It's functionally a small tax cut for new parents—a chance to claw back some of the payroll taxes I otherwise expect to never see again. My own Social Security payments will be drastically reduced, if they materialize at all, three or four decades from now whether this parental leave program happens or not. Rubio's plan would at least let me recoup a little of the thousands upon thousands of dollars I've paid for retirement payments I'll likely never enjoy.
The rest of the Rubio family agenda, such as we know of it (the bill text for the whole package does not seem to have been released), is even more of a mixed bag. Expanding the child tax credit and the adoption tax credit is probably the most politically viable of the bunch, though of course, the credits aren't offset by any spending cuts. The expanded funding for social programs will be too little (or too religious) to garner most Democrats' support and too expensive for most Republicans.
Undoubtedly most controversial is Rubio and Romney's proposal that the federal government fund pro-life pregnancy centers "by reallocating federal funds from organizations that perform or refer women for abortions." Eliminating federal funding for abortion providers (whether to directly pay for abortions or, because money is fungible, to support these organizations at all) has been a pro-life cause for years on grounds of conscience—but also a source of deep contention. Perhaps inevitably in our era of negative partisanship, Rubio's proposal would not simply eliminate the funding but invert its political polarization.
Maybe there's a family policy yet to be crafted that could garner broad support from the American public—or clear the often higher bar of bipartisan backing in Washington. I don't know what it would be nor, I suspect, does anyone else. But the end of Roe seems to have further spurred demand for a viable family policy, and the Rubio agenda isn't it.
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Eh, I don't think it's a super-hot take. The headline massively oversells what the Romney-Rubio plan actually is.
I mean, it's trash, but the sub-headline misleadingly says it calls for massively expanding the size of government. It kind of does, by expanding the usage of social security funds, but the plan doesn't actually call for new funds to spend on parental leave or to spend on pregnancy crisis centers, which is the impression I got from the subtitle.
I didn't even bother reading the subtitle until now.
There is demand for child tax credits, paid family leave, and funding for crisis pregnancy centers but the Rubio-Romney plan is not the answer.
Two out of three of those have nothing to do with abortion, and Rubio-Romney Republicans have been pushing for all three of these for years, long before the Dobbs decision.
What does any of this have to do with the Roe v. Wade Overturn?
"Breeders"
Ah, so Reason lies... as usual
https://twitter.com/Fan4Cal/status/1541973154335281153?t=v3ekiHCqZ5KqSWbAS6xlDQ&s=19
Biden Admin Weighs Setting Up Abortion Clinics on Federal Lands in Red States: ‘Every Option Is on the Table’….Democrats are Hell Bent and determined to Kill Babies.
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Oh, "Republicans". *wink wink, nudge nudge*
These fuckers REALLY need to locate their offices outside the beltway. They've become so infected by the swamp they can't even pretend anymore.
Rub a Pro-Life Republican and out pops a leftard.
The sad thing here is that they are reporting on legislation that hasn't even been presented yet. It is a bunch of speculation on what is going to be presented.
lol... like "potential life"?
Is it just me, or is it strange that Democrats control the presidency and both houses of Congress and routinely ignore constitutional limits on their power but it's only Republicans that are growing the size and cost of government?
Only Reason would try this shit after staying silent during two years of unprecedented growth in government power.
Still recovering from all those mean tweets.
Now that's just crazy talk. Spending money reduces the size and cost of government; just ask Joe. Only baby management grows government.
Democrats don't pretend like they don't want to grow government.
And sending the issue back to the states grows federal government how? Because this decision only decided the powers of federal powers. And it reduced said powers.
One of these days you'll respond to something I actually said. Maybe. I'm not holding my breath.
Just send him flowers and tell him how you feel.
it helps if you read....
Romney-Rubio Republicans don’t either.
It's anyone who doesn't have a sheeple brain easily manipulated by [WE] gang-affiliation loyalty...
Rub a Pro-Life Republican and out pops a leftard.
Yep. This is the the Social-Conservative wing of the Republican party cropping up again. From the libertarian standpoint I'm not fond of expanding social benefits in this way. From the pro-natalist standpoint, I'm not convinced this will help birthrates in the way some people openly hope. I think that's still more of a social issue. Other countries that have attempted this "pay people to have kids" model have also had pretty low-to-middling results.
I still think the government solution to this is probably more supply sided. Make it easier for people to start businesses, deregulate a lot of industries to encourage small business development, give people a sense that they're building a future for themselves, and kids tend to naturally come from that.
Though even then, I don't know. That's clearly a view biased towards my priors, and the declining birth rate issue is really baffling.
>>declining birth rate issue is really baffling
now that words and genders mean nothing I wonder how anyone under 25 can date
Words and genders mean nothing
Everything is rape
The patriarchy is toxic masculinity
It takes a village
College and the corporate world are geared toward feminine traits, males are constantly disparaged and emasculated, and "the American dream" is more expensive than ever.
Men don't really have a place in the world anymore, while women are pushed into masculine roles.
These are obviously macro trends not applicable to all, but it is the design of current culture.
Whatever is it, it's clearly a problem government needs to solve harder.
More anime girls for eternal teens to masturbate to, and import more compliant drones from elsewhere.
Those damn social conservatives and their pro-child priorities. How is that going to boost Koch Industries or Berkshire Hathaway’s per share price? [/OBL]
I really am probably more socially conservative in my view than most folks here. I just don't think the government is actually the best means of bringing things about. People like it because it's one of the easiest, biggest clubs at hand.
There's time when you wield that club, I am not an anarchist, but I have doubts of how useful it is for very fine-grained issues like people not having babies or Church attendance dropping dramatically or intermediary social institutions dying off.
Though, that last one is not particularly socially conservative, but I notice that conservatives tend to give it more attention than libertarians do. Which is a shame. That's definitely a ground for easy agreement between the two. I'm probably giving libertarians short-shrift on it honestly, I probably just don't know where they're talking about it.
Black women in the USA today get abortions at a high rate… “the abortion rate for black women is almost five times that for white women”, from https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2008/08/abortion-and-women-color-bigger-picture . (Hispanics are intermediate here FYI). I’ll get back to this momentarily…
Say the following (which I regard to be true) and many conservatives will immediately agree: We can be OUTWARDLY “compassionate” while harming people. Minimum wages and rent controls come to mind! Of COURSE we are compassionate when we mandate higher pay and lower rent! Yet if we do these kinds of things to ANY significant degree, we “dry up” many of both the available low-wage jobs and the available apartments! Now go be jobless and homeless, ye victims of our “compassion”! Because businesses and landlords don’t want to lose money! Plain and simple!
Then WHY can’t conservatives see the similar dynamic when trying to be “compassionate” with other peoples’ wombs? Sure, we all love babies! But what happens to the victims, not just of “Lying Lothario”, but also of birth-control failures, and of genetic and developmental (in-the-womb) defects? “The rich will get richer, and the poor will have children”! More non-wage-earning babies and children in a family is a straight, unadulterated input contributing to poverty! It’s not what most people desire or admire, sure, but abortion is backup birth control. Our new USA move towards outlawing more and more abortions, in more states, will aggravate poverty among the poor, Blacks, and Hispanics, who can’t afford to travel for abortions, as easily as richer Whites can. We’ll be thwarting the “demographic transition” (https://populationeducation.org/what-demographic-transition-model/#:~:text=The%20Demographic%20Transition%20Model%20(DTM,as%20that%20country%20develops%20economically ) for poor residents of the USA! The rich yank the ladder out from the grasp of the could-be-climbing poor, with abortion laws, just as they do with minimum wages, rent controls, and excessive job-licensing laws!
All good points. To coin an over used phrase for this... It'll be like the dog who caught the car". It's going to get republicans exactly the outcome they don't want. In my mind that's the one silver lining to this whole said thing, it's yet another nail in the coffin of the republican party.
Hopefully the smart ones, the fiscal conservatives, actual limited government types and a few other centrists groups will see this at some point soon and either another true 'center right' party will form or the Libertarians will purge the polictical crazies that hamstring this party and become the new party of the center right. Otherwise we devolve into what much of the democratic party truely desires and we become a "social democracy". Democracy mostly in name only. We vote but there is really only one ideal to vote for.
Think of Rubio-Romney proposal as the Mormon plan. Just visit Utah to see how church and state can function together to promote families. Really big families.
I wonder if Romney pushed for bigger payouts for white babies.
"Really big families."
Polygamy and harems help out a LOT here!
Theologically incorrect young Mormon men? NO women for THEM! They get dumped on society at large, to take care of, till they can hold jobs on their own! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/14/usa.julianborger
The lost boys, thrown out of US sect so that older men can marry more wives
Kinda the same as "Lying Lothario" is now rejoicing over the below...
"R" Party is Our Party is the GOOD party! The Party of the Sex Pistols and the Sex Postals, with which you may R-Party-ON, and go Sex Postal with your Sex Pistol, and rape or deceive ALL the young babes, your "binders full of young women", whose binders bind them to be womb-slaves, and then MAKE them carry to term, their Sacred Fartilized Egg Smells! All Hail the Every Sperm Which Is Sacred!
All Hail Lying Lothario and His Lied-to-Harems! http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/#_Toc105750001
http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/#_Toc107315509 updated will take you to the relevant sub-section now...
"Theologically incorrect young Mormon men? NO women for THEM! They get dumped on society at large, to take care of, till they can hold jobs on their own!"
Hi KAR.
Truth is true! SOOOO sorry for YOU, unreality-dweller!
I disagree. The flagship piece- taking an advance on Social Security benefits is, frankly, fantastic, assuming it is a week-for-week transaction (i.e. I take a week of paid leave today to defer a week of paid retirement in the future).
1) This is inflation adjusted dollars. You are taking a lesser amount of money today to defer more money in the future. That is a win for the balance of SS.
2) It takes a fundamentally unfair system that transfers money from relatively poor people starting their careers and gives it to relatively richer people ending a life of earning, and reduces that burden by a small amount.
3) These concerns about the insolvency of SS are weak tea. SS will be insolvent one way or the other. Paying out money now is better than paying out money in the future. Because Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA raises) mean that SS payments increase faster than the shitty treasury notes that the SS Trust Fund has. It is getting small change for its trust fund, while COLA is going up by multiple percents per year.
If we cannot get rid of Social Security, allowing people to take advances on it under certain limited circumstances is better than waiting until it is gone.
Once again the headline of this article is much more inflammatory than the actual article and Reason needs to look into slapping their headline writer around a bit.
I mean obviously the libertarian idea is to kill SS and let individuals decide what to do with their money, but if we’re going to have SS, this actually sounds like a not half-bad way to do paid leave.
Have they solved for those who will not pay back this loan? There will be a number who die before their FRA, yet will have already enjoyed the largesse of the taxpayer.
And which Republican leader is the chief rival to the social-conservative Romney-Rubio wing?
Why do you care that the birth rate is declining?
Who do you think is going to take care of you when you are old? Someone older? Who is going to make future innovations?
Who is going to make future innovations?
That won't be a concern of mine or yours.
We should really stop committing future generations to contracts they had no hand in signing. I think Spooner liked the idea of reaffirming (or not) the Constitution every twenty years.
Baffling? Who wants to have children and leave them all this??
Just L fucking O L, Reason.
do do dooooo Republicans!
Republicans just need to scrap their platform of the Catholic founded Pro-Life [WE] mob movement...
{cough, cough} {cough, cough} bullshit. I don't usually leave baldly negative attacked in this forum, but, really, basing a weirdly unresearched article on "the bill text for the whole package does not seem to have been released", from a fringe senator who doesn't represent a majority of anyone? C'mon, reason, edit your interns ...
Now do mandated birth control in health insurance.
Well, birth control does correlate with fewer abortions. For someone whose only concern ever is to reduce abortions, then mandating birth control and getting someone else to pay for it is a perfect fit.
Frankly, I would rather just legalize over the counter birth control without a prescription, but that makes both sides shit their pants. There's still a big chunk of the Right that is uncomfortable with the idea of their sexually mature children using birth control. And for many on the Left the idea of birth control pills without express government permission via prescription requirements sends them into paroxysms of rage.
If this is the effect then I'm with you 100%.
birth control does correlate with fewer abortions
Gonna need to see the cite on this one. Not that I think you're absolutely wrong but we've gone from 700K abortions in 1973 to 1.6M in the late 80s to 800K in the last couple years. I'm dubious that relatively fewer women were on birth control in the late 80s than either 1973 or 2019.
God damn Republicans can’t even introduce a bill to sell over the counter birth control. Oh wait… https://reason.com/2019/04/03/over-the-counter-birth-control-bill-2/
Lemme see if I can sum this whole fight up, let me know if I'm in the ballpark here:
Between 2020-2022, Democrats lured Bodily Autonomy into a remote wooded area, hit it over the head with a shovel and buried it in a shallow grave.
Now they've run back to the scene of the crime, exhumed the body and are holding it up as a victim of right wing ideology.
Do I have that about right?
Racist!
That's a Yes.
Close, but slightly off.
They didn't lure it into the woods, they beat it to death in the middle of a crowded street, rifled through its pockets for anything of value, pissed on it, told everyone watching to spit on it as they walk by... then Friday propped it up as a victim of right-wing ideology.
Every time I see people online talk about COVID restrictions I really wonder where they lived during COVID. I don't disagree with the people angry about the constraints that came forth during COVID, but because I lived in a state that let up pretty early I think it limits how intensely angry I am able to get about it.
This isn't even a dig. I feel for ya folks who lived in places like Washington or California or New York.
The federal government forcing vaccination through OSHA regulations affected anyone working anywhere in the US.
Yeah, but it still just seems like my COVID years while frustrating, were basically categorically different from many. I agree with basically all the most extreme points against COVID regulations, I just find I can't get quite as angry about it. If that makes sense.
If you're not angry then stay not angry, it's better for your health.
I'm not that angry of a guy in general. I'm depressive.
According to the latest psychobabble, depression is anger turned inwards. Consider it mass-energy equivalence for people who couldn't hack high school physics.
I understand completely because my experience was like yours - minimally invasive.
I'm in Florida, and I'm appalled that my experience was an outlier.
The anger comes from the casual totalitarianism imposed, not on me personally, but in the US overall.
With vax and mask mandates, the eager public-private partnership, nowhere truly escaped that totalitarianism.
Then there's the election it was used to... "fortify"... and is now resulting in this country descending into totalitarian hell.
Plus just the blatant dishonesth of the whole thing.
Sure, I'm in Florida so I escaped the worst of it. Still have to deal with the ridiculous consequences and looming threat.
2020 was a phase transition from social democracy into tyranny that we're only in the early stages of.
It's going to get much worse.
And 2020 saw the left cross the line with covid + mostly peaceful protests + fortified elections that there is no coming back from.
BC, and we had almost Australia-style fascism.
I’m in California. While the restrictions got me angry over how they affected my life, I was angrier about how the restrictions were arbitrary, often non-science-based, and didn’t apply to some politicians.
Nailed it.
pretty close.... except you are missing the part where Republicans spent the same two years pumping up bodily autonomy with steroids and putting it on the biggest pedestal they could find just to unceremoniously shoot it in the back of the head.
both sides are completely full of shit, claim principles when it suites them, and drop them the second it does not.
The only thing I can say on the Republicans behalf in this situation is the Republicans were talking about bodily autonomy in context of being forcibly strapped to a gurney and having an unwanted medical procedure performed upon you.
It's a bit like calling the Chinese one-child policy radically pro-choice.
i case it was not clear, i didn't support the left pissing all over bodily autonomy when they did it.... when i say they both suck, i actually mean it. i believed in people having control of their own bodies as much then as i do now.
Seems like Trump's SCOTUS delivered people having more control of their own bodies by driving the decisions closer to the Individual. Now if only you could get your State's Courts to tell the governor the same thing.
If one State does it, they'll claim it's sick, and won't bother it; and if two States do it - together - why that would be a conspiracy; but... if three States do it, three, can you imagine? ! It becomes a movement (thnx Arlo)
there is no version of reality where this ruling can be viewed as giving people more control of their own bodies... it actively removed a protection for people's control over their own bodies. there was never anything preventing states from making that freedom larger, and several did allow abortion later already.
viewed as giving people more control
It removed 48 Senators, 400 or so congresscritters, 623 federal Courts, and 300 million fellow citizens from determining your decision and/or courses of action.
How's that version of reality?
what it removed was PROTECTION of your right to control your body....
Didn't we lose that way back in 1919 for a while? SCOTUS said it was not in the FEDERAL governments' domain to tell you what you can do with your body (for abortions - not drugs (legal or illegal)).
If you've got a bone to pick it is with your neighbors now.
Yes; To a T.... And vice versa...
Both parties are complete hypocrites on 'abortion'.
"...Patrick T. Brown of the conservative Ethics and Public Policy Center in The New York Times last month..."
I think it's safe to assume, anyone who's manage to get published by the NYT is not really conservative, no matter what he calls himself. NYT publishes their preferred kind of "conservative," (ie, RINO or neutered neo-con) and calls everyone else alt-right.
They still have random folks writing for them who are conservative. Ross Douthat is still there. Might be tokenism, might go away entirely soon enough, but they still do random op-eds from people who are conservative.
After that Tom Cotton rigmarole a few years ago, they may be trending towards no dissent on the op-ed page though.
Smaller and less intrusive government has NEVER been part of the Republican agenda. They may talk about smaller government, but when actions come they simply do not act it matters. Deeds, not works, show that smaller government simply is not a priority of any sort.
And this new breed that Goldwater warned us about sees to restraint in advocating government expansion in pursuit of a culture war. That they don't spend as fast as the Democrats does not mean they aren't jacking off to the idea of more tax dollars to through around.
The better answer is that both the political parties are a mix of philosophical and coalitional elements. It's complicated. There are Republican fiscal-conservative types who are very debt hawkish, and it does still tend to be on the right.
Every time Reason manages to find any fiscal libertarian in Washington it's inevitably a Republican.
But it's hard. The people of our country really like getting money from the government. That really is bipartisan at this point and politicians are nothing if not sensitive to what gets them elected.
Debt doesn’t matter. Spending does. Being a debt hawk says nothing about fiscal conservatism.
Brandyshit; the pile of shit still attempting to justify raging case of TDS!
Eat shit and die, asshole.
BTW, Brandyshit, can we assume that HRC would have appointed similar justices?
That HRC would have kept DeVos? Would have cut EPA regs as Trump did?
Let's hear it, steaming pile of shit.
Yes............ Do better Republicans....
Wearing on Jack*ss on your heads while cursing Jack*sses aren't impressive.
Rubio-Romney plan is not the answer.
I found the confusion on Reasons part.
Your huge complaint is about letting people move 3 whole months of social security checks forward from the future?
That’s not intrusive. It’s not much of anything. Sounds like complaining to fill Reason's weekly quota of anti-Republican posts.
No both sides talk either. Because of course Reason only feels obligated to complain about one side — even when the complaints make no sense.
That’s not intrusive. It’s not much of anything. Sounds like complaining to fill Reason's weekly quota of anti-Republican posts.
I mean, it is, kind of. It requires more administrative effort to track this, and it also opens the slippery-slope door of reallocating Social Security funds, when Social Security is massively underfunded. What's the next thing that people will try to fund by having people reallocate their Social Security funds?
The headline and the premise oversold this, for sure. I think it's still terrible, but it's less terrible than I was expecting.
C'mon, it's not like there are any ridiculous proposals from the Ds.
I mean, organizing and funding mass abortion tents in national parks or Daddy Gov paying for abortion tourism is hardly noteworthy...
"mass abortion tents in national parks... paying for abortion tourism"
The clownshow keeps getting stupider every hour.
months of social security checks forward from the future
No, they are spending money which does not yet exist on the promise of payback well into the future by people who can't afford to have the babies they are having. This ought to work out well.
Rubio and Romney are Republicans? I'd forgotten.
Anti-Choice is Republican??? I guess even I forgot that one....
For Christians, our faith is (or should be) the core determinant of our lives—in Christ “we live and move and have our being,” as Paul said in Athens (Acts 17:28). We ask God to “fill [us] with the knowledge of his will through all the wisdom and understanding that the Spirit gives, so that [we] may live a life worthy of the Lord and please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God” (Col. 1:9–10). Following Jesus is supposed to be all-consuming.
Thus spaketh Bonnie Kristian in 2020 right before Amy C. Barrett was confirmed
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/october-web-only/supreme-court-isnt-all-powerful.html
If any of that seems hypocritical and posturing given her above faux "fact checking" on Roe v Wade, that is because she is very much a fraud
shame on you Bonnie. your lack of gravitas to be Christ-like no matter the political party is shameful.
Friendly reminders:
(1) Most Republicans are not libertarians.
(2) Given that about half of the country and half of independents vote for progressives, Republicans are trying to throw them some bones and dodge demonization. There is an election coming up, you know.
Rather than try and engage with a group that's somewhat sympathetic and win converts there, the Reasonistas would rather piss on them for backpats from establishment poobahs who vociferously hate libertarianism.
Right. Most republicans are not libertarians, but they're also not the republicans of 10 years ago. The wholesale rejection of Jeb Bush was evidence of that. Most aren't ever going to be fully libertarians, but many could be persuaded to be MORE libertarian than they currently are.
And given the extreme bent of the progressives these days, at least some of those independents can be peeled off. The progs have gone full retard, and there's no such thing as a moderate progressive anymore. Progressives don't represent their views anymore.
We're never going to get a fully libertarian government. We've never had one. But we CAN get a more libertarian government, and the republicans are currently the best bet for that.
D.J. Trump's actions should have informed anyone with a 3-digit IQ that there was something going on here (fuck you with a running rusty chainsaw Brandyshit and that asshole lumberjack).
Do NOT vote for a D or an R, vote for the policies.
That's how I see it too. One sizable faction of the Republicans is European-style conservative, but another, still up-and-coming (although already arguably dominant) is Trump-style. And Trump-style is the most libertarian it's gotten in generations. It'll never be radically libertarian, but it can be damn good.
We're never going to get a fully libertarian government.
Don't you think that we came pretty damn close to one though for the first hundred and ten years or so?
Yes. They are taking extra precaution from attacks from the Lab puppies by cozying up to the rabid wolves for protection
I think of them as Libertarians who have Stockholm Syndrome.
"The end of Roe v. Wade, pro-lifers have said since the Supreme Court overturned the longstanding abortion ruling on Friday, must be the beginning of a new era of generosity toward parents in America."
And you support that bullshit claim by a cite to a NYT opinion piece? Up yours, Ms. Krstian.
No freedom left untouched by Gov-Guns...
Wasn't that the point all along?
All of this panic that the end of Roe will create major societal upheaval is becoming pretty tedious. The vast majority of women are not in the market for a means of ridding themselves of a fetus and those that are have much better options than surgical abortion. The worst case scenario is that a small percentage will "Cross State Lines!" ( I feel like that phrase needs scare quotes for some reason). Declining birthrates have a lot more to do with lack of middle class economic opportunities and the rising socialist welfare state than abortion. The Europeans are way ahead of us in declining birthrates and their abortion laws look a lot like Louisiana's. Add to that a culture obsessed with butt sex, child grooming and reconstructed genitalia and it's amazing that anybody is even hooking up let alone making babies.
Declining birth rates are not due to any of that, it is due to the infantilization of our culture.
People don’t get married young anymore. They don’t have long term committed relationships. A lot of them don’t even have sex. And of course a woman’s place is now in the cubicle, not at home having babies
See the Japanese dating culture- young men obsessed with anime and tentacle porn, and young women who go to bars and pay pro good looking guys to ask them about themselves.
scare quotes for some reason...
The Mann Act?
Is there now a real threat to minor birthing people's reproductive health being easily provided without parental consent in a nearby neighborhood to necessitating the transport of said minors across state lines without parental consent to the nearest National Park?
Elon Musk once compared the Federal Government to a large corporation. Okay. Taxpayers, in this model, are customers in the government's monopoly of services. In exchange for these services they pay taxes. Babies of taxpayers are very likely to grow up to be taxpayers themselves (versus non-taxpaying residents, completely dependent on welfare). Therefore, it behooves the government to invest encourage taxpayers to create baby taxpayers at high rates. Currently, it is failing dismally. The birth rate is particularly low among the middle class because raising a family is unaffordable. Whether the Rubio/Romney plan is the right one, I can't say, but at least they're on the right track.
Elon Musk is far, far from infallible; most often, he's a rent-seeking asshole who (stopped clock) gets something right.
Taxpayers, in this model, are customers
More like stockholders in a company with annual losses and no guarantee that they (the investor) will ever get a return on their investment.
Lawyers are not bright
People respond to incentives.
The United States incentivizes illegals to take insane risks because they are given lots of free stuff.
Remove the incentives, and illegal stay home
Having Medicaid pay for abortions for 50 years and shoveling somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 billion dollars worth of grants to provide abortions overseas was OK though.
Honk honk.
None of it is Okay...
"but for some, it includes an embrace of federal family policy"
LOOK... JUST LOOK what you've done!!!!
Got so wrapped up in imaginary 'unicorn' propaganda and [WE] voters-mob RULES so awesomely "banning" health services is now 'woke' cool, pimping out women as 'unicorn' incubators is now 'woke cool ..................... FOR the Right????
Pro-Life isn't compatible with Republicans LIMITED government platform. Scrap it.
I'm a Pro-Choice for ?baby? freedom (i.e. Fetal Ejection)
because it's not....
Gov-Gun enslavement of Women and ?Baby?...
It is... Liberty for both Women and ?Baby?...
If you cannot support ?baby? freedom...
UR supporting FORCE reproduction.
You people are so stupid to fall for such a distraction as this Dobbs case, even more so for thinking that this is a Republican power grab. Let me clue you plebeians in on something: both parties are working in tandem to destroy America, under the influence of the global elite. Yeah, they may fight and squabble in the House and Senate, but it's all for show. The Republican party isn't conservative anymore anyway. It's liberal light. Don't believe me? Look it up yourself.
Maybe Reason hasn't noticed but it is Biden growing the size and cost of the government. I do agree, the government should pay for neither abortion or the cost of raising children. Family planning is not an enumerated power of the Federal government.