FEMA Encourages Survivors of a Nuclear Holocaust To Mask, Socially Distance
The COVID-conscious advice from the federal government's primary disaster response agency is silly. It's also outdated.

While the potential for Russia's invasion of Ukraine to spark a world-ending nuclear conflagration has knocked the pandemic off most frontpages, federal bureaucrats seem determined to prove that they can focus on two crises at once.
On Sunday, Based Politics' Brad Polumbo reported that the Federal Emergency Management's (FEMA) ready.gov webpage for nuclear explosions encourages for people to mask and socially distance should they be hunkering in a bunker with members outside of their own households.
Should one hear a warning of an imminent nuclear attack, FEMA's website encourages people to shelter inside the nearest building, preferably one made of brick or concrete, and as far away from windows as possible.
"When you have reached a safe place, try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household," continues the agency's webpage. "If possible, wear a mask if you're sheltering with people who are not a part of your household."
Ready.gov says people should stay inside for at least 24 hours after the bombs hit, during which time they should continue to socially distance and mask.
FEMA also has some helpful advice for those who survive the nuclear holocaust. Someone having a medical emergency is encouraged to contact 911. Provided the operator also survived, you are to tell them if you think you have COVID-19 and make sure to mask up before help arrives.
It's said that following a nuclear war, the survivors might end up envying the dead.
Fortunately, FEMA offers some helpful advice for those suffering psychic discomfort at witnessing the world set on fire. They're sensitive to the fact that survivors might have already had a lot on their plate before the bombs dropped.
"Talk to someone if you are feeling upset. Many people may already feel fear and anxiety about the coronavirus 2019 (COVID-19). The threat of a nuclear explosion can add additional stress," ready.gov notes.
It encourages people to engage virtually with their community through video and phone calls. (No guidance is provided on whether it's okay to meet outside in a socially distanced fashion if all telecommunications have been disabled.)
FEMA's covid-conscious advice is getting a lot of mockery from the conservative corners of the internet, and deservedly so.
Throughout the pandemic, the public health bureaucracy has generally done a poor job of balancing the tradeoffs between combating COVID and addressing other pressing issues of health and human well-being. They've also often demonstrated a remarkedly limited understanding of how people will actually respond to their advice in emergency situations.
The federal government's chiding about social distancing in fallout bunkers takes this obtuseness about human nature to the extreme. It's like trying to enforce capacity restrictions at the fiddle concert while Rome burns.
That this advice is coming from FEMA adds more irony still. One of the agency's core responsibilities during disasters is to help coordinate the communication and response efforts of multiple government agencies.
But the agency has clearly failed to coordinate with other agencies when advising people of what to do in the event of a nuclear explosion.
As of Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is no longer recommending that people socially distance or wear masks indoors if they live in the 70 percent of the country rated at low or medium risk of COVID-19. That advice would seemingly apply to fallout shelters as well.
So provided you don't live in a high-risk county, you should feel free to be unmasked while you and members of another household negotiate how many shotgun shells they'd be willing to trade for a few cans of irradiated tuna.
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Reminds me of an old cartoon.
Two golfers are standing on a green, and the city on the horizon is disappearing under a mushroom cloud.
The caption: "Go ahead and putt, the shock wave won't get here for a couple of minutes".
Two fishermen in a boat see mushroom clouds rising, and one sez to the other: "I'll tell you what this means, Hank, no size restrictions and SCREW the limit!"
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To the few who know how many seconds are in a year, the advice is to download "Nuclear War Survival Skills"
Now you can have it free: http://www.survivorlibrary.com/library/nuclear-war-survival-skills.pdf
Dr. Petr Beckmann cited Kearney's work in the speech linked below.
Like he might say from his shelter: "I ain't 'fraid of no nuke ghost!"
Oh, I thought this was satire, but FEMA once again pre-empted that.
I was typing the exact same. Pretty astounding when the government is issuing clickbait as advice.
OK, reading through, Reason continues to toe the propaganda/satire line: But the agency has clearly failed to coordinate with other agencies when advising people of what to do in the event of a nuclear explosion.
As of Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is no longer recommending that people socially distance or wear masks indoors if they live in the 70 percent of the country rated at low or medium risk of COVID-19. That advice would seemingly apply to fallout shelters as well.
I've never lived through a nuclear explosion, but I get the impression that the COVID case reporting will drop off afterwards, putting the survivors in the clear.
Died with radiation poisoning or from radiation poisoning.
All the anti-vaxxers will be claiming that the radiation doesn't kill anyone, but government still counting them as atomic bomb victims. Sigh.
Russia bombing the Ukraine will be the deadliest nuclear incident in American history.
LOL
++
"Women Most Affected!"
"BIPOC and trans most affected."
And all Trump's fault!
More like the remaining ash will be tested for Covid and if it tests positive, counted as Covid 19 death.
All the anti-vaxxers will be claiming that the radiation doesn't kill anyone, but government still counting them as atomic bomb victims. Sigh.
We are nearing a nuclear war, and this is what you are concerned about?
What an ass.
Brandy's just saying up front that 'Of COVID' will be more important to him than the 75+% of deaths with 7.62 mm holes as a comorbidity.
According to the CDCs own paperwork guidelines, if there are 7.62mm holes AND a positive covid death at the time of death, the 7.62mm holes are supposed to be dropped to "section 2" of the form, and COVID gets priority in section one.
I'm not lying.
No cash bonuses for bullet holes.
There are some small number of people who are "anti-vax", but you're intentionally and pejoratively conflating them with anti-vax-mandate folks. A very large share of the former are in the pro-vax camp, but simply object to forcing people to get jabbed at the point of a (figurative, for now) gun.
Prepositions vary by culture.
i thought is satire also when I heard it on the radio this morning.
So provided you don't live in a high-risk county, you should feel free to be unmasked while you and members of another household negotiate how many shotgun shells they'd be willing to trade for a few cans of irradiated tuna.
Does anybody at Reason read the archives of their own publication anymore? Irradiation is great for food preservation! Yet Britches here seems to speak about it like it's an eye-rolling, embarrassing bad thing!
Look, Britches! If you don't want it, give me your irradiated tuna. But don't come back begging for it when the Shizzle Hits The Fizzle, Dizzle!
We now know how quickly the government emergency response agency can respond to emergencies: 2 years.
Heaven help anybody waiting for any non-emergency response.
They can however threaten to issue an emergency temporary standard in a little over one year.
I accidentally walked into the post office without a mask today, even though the county mandate doesn't end until Wednesday. No one said anything.
Well you couldn't see them speaking because they were wearing masks!
Too scared to say anything. I bet there was a lot of whispering after you left.
"OMG! We could have died!"
Two days from now they'll just be saying, "OMG! A Republican!"
Personally, non-vaxxed. You figure, what, 2-3 mos. ago the vaccinated became a bigger threat to me than I was to them? My lack of a mask puts me at risk, not you. Weird how the masks didn't change but that fact did. Like it never had anything to do with droplets.
It was always about obedience.
I mentioned this yesterday, but my favorite revelation from this is that we officially know now that hand sanitizer is not effective against nuclear fallout.
I'm a curmudgeon. I admit it, and am generally not pro government. But it makes me sad just how far institutions like the CDC, FEMA, and the others have fallen.
They fallen, they have been exposed
Well, hand sanitizer isn't. radioactive particles and dust are not bacteria or viruses. Rubbing them just rubs them into your skin. Best to rinse them off with running water.
Gosh, I'm old enough to remember when we had to know this stuff because Reagan was going to get us all killed. He didn't of course, which angers the liberals more than anything.
Well, yeah. But he broke up the USSR, which reinstated Russia, so this whole thing is really HIS fault, not Basement Bunker Biden.
It angered the mystics, especially the religious communists like Jim Jones Temple congregants
But it makes me sad just how far institutions like the CDC, FEMA, and the others have fallen.
Yeah, I used to agree that the FDA served a purpose in proactively preventing fraud and even outright poisoning in marketable medical and food products. That position is pretty much indefensible now.
I work in the medical industry. They don't do anything except check that right signatures are on the right documents. It's a total joke. Why are medical prices so high? Three letters: FDA. Medicare contributes too, but it's FDA that makes everyone from manufacturers to hospitals have to staff an army of regulatory bureaucrats.
The old joke about how Pentagon hammers cost $500. Because that's how much the paper in the paperwork costs. Same thing for your hangnail removal.
When I started working with the FDA, the concept of substantial equivalence made sense. When they started saying monitoring should be conducted more or less often because the public and medical professionals might do something one way or the other, it made less sense, but equivalence still had a purpose. Effectively waiving substantial equivalence in the face of a pandemic voids all of it.
Actually, the hammers cost 12.95.
All the secret stuff they don't tell you about takes the rest.
My old Dad was in "Logistics Support", which is the arm of FedGov that stores, packages, and moves all the shit the government owns. Back when Sen Proxmire was ridiculing said hammers (and other things), he (my Dad) brought home the procurement specs for Army t-shirts, basically undistinguishable from store brand. It ran several pages, specifying thread type, seam strength, exact placement of reinforcement, etc. IF a vendor had to re-tool their entire factory to satisfy these requirements, that cost would be covered in the contract and often was. The t-shirts cost the gov. $42, IIRC. Each.
That's the thing about government corruption: They've been doing it a very long time and are very good at it. You'll never find the moustache-twirling villain, just bureaucrats pointing fingers and shrugging.
Did they remove the MIL spec boilerplate for fungus, and corrosion resistance and for the ability to withstand icing and "salt fog"? The bureaucrats don't even point fingers anymore because they've now all been trained to understand that a $6 item will ultimately cost the Gov't $42, since the difference is usually being spent on "process" costs rather than actual price gouging and nobody is actually "cashing in" on it.
I used to work with an engineer who had worked on the C-17. He told me about the saga of the attempt to add a coffee maker to that aircraft, and that not one manufacturer of coffee makers for the airline industry responded to their RFP. This was in the late 1980s or early 90s, and every company's reason for not bidding was that the cost of the certification testing amortized over the size of the order would drive their break-even unit price to around $50k and nobody wanted to show up on 60 Minutes as being the company that sold the Pentagon a "$50,000 coffee maker".
There is some amount of profiteering and real corruption in the defense business to be sure, but the induced costs involved with simply doing business with the Gov't procurement system (not to mention the additional burden of all the oversight to prevent "fraud, waste, and abuse") dwarf those expenses in probably 75% of cases; and if the fraud/abuse is done by a "disadvantaged" business working on a set-aside portion of a sub-contract, good luck prosecuting it anyway....
The threat of a nuclear explosion can add additional stress
You don't say.
to concrete ... and rebar ... and pine forests
You can calculate the amount of stress from the pressure wave based on the yield of the blast and the distance . . .
I assume that's some 1/R^2 function...
The federal government's chiding about social distancing in fallout bunkers takes this obtuseness about human nature to the extreme.
Perhaps condemnation of Russian soldiers for not wearing N95s during the incursion has precipitated the gas mask distributions.
wow didn't think things could get more ridiculous than Jericho. thanks FEMA!
So basically FEMA saw the SNL skit and thought to themselves, "We can do a better mask parody than that!"
And they did. Who knew FEMA had a sense of humor?
Touching advice—-but wouldn’t all that radiation kill the coof?
the coof will survive but there will be nobody to get it
The roaches, General; don't forget the roaches.
The Chernobyl variant will be the worst one yet.
This is beyond Babylon Bee.
And I cannot believe no one has [until now] posted fuck Joe Biden.
Just because.
Joe blows
Fuck Newsom
FEMA and other federal agencies spend millions to develop and deliver helpful policies like this because:
A) They are complete retards.
B) Like all good civil servants, they just follow orders.
C) They have an ironic sense of humor (and compete with each other to see who can twist the public more).
D) All of the above.
Will I die WITH radiation sickness or OF radiation sickness?
Will be logged as a Covid death, even in the apocalypse. Like cockroaches, petty bureaucrats will survive.
You will probably die from an exploding head if there are many more stories like this.
Another three letter thing to leave out of the budget.
I thought the first order of business after surviving a nuclear attack was to load all the magazines.
Do you just keep empty magazines lying around? What were you doing while the world was ending in a nuclear fireball? Playing bridge?
Already have those in the fallout shelter, to read while waiting for the all-clear.
ba-dum *ching!*
And what about Climate Change? Will nuclear winter be seen as a climate changing event? Will your carbon footprint be measured in the ash you leave behind and your family carbon taxed?
Your family will probably be carbon.
We're all Carbon now, along with Nitrogen, Hydrogen, Oxygen (you know, the constituent Elements of amino acids,) along with Calcium, trace amounts of Iron, Zinc, Magnesium, Copper, Phosphorous, etc.
Nuclear winter will cool the planet down solving the warming part of climate change.
Will it actually solve it, or just mask it?
I would say "solve it" for the foreseeable future. Since most people and industry would be kaput, the cooling effect of the nuclear winter would seem likely to last long enough so that the human-induced greenhouse gases would have a chance to be naturally sequestered. Raising the albedo of the planet for a few years would also tend to mitigate warming further.
The UN reminded people today not to lose sight of the biggest threat to humanity:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/28/world/un-ipcc-climate-report-adaptation-impacts/index.html
Climate change is on course to transform life on Earth as we know it, and unless global warming is dramatically slowed, billions of people and other species will reach points where they can no longer adapt to the new normal, according to a major report published Monday.
Apparently air conditioning that allows people to live in areas much hotter than where they lived previously doesn't count as an adaptation.
The UN-backed report, based on years of research from hundreds of scientists, found that the impacts from human-caused climate change were larger than previously thought. The report's authors say these impacts are happening much faster and are more disruptive and widespread than scientists expected 20 years ago.
Are they sure they want to remind us to check their predictions from 20 years ago?
There were signs at Glacier National Park that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020. They changed the signs.
Kinda suspicious that they put a chalkboard where the date goes, huh?
I saw John Kerry chiding Putin because the whole eastern half of Russia used to be pure natural permafrost and now it's MELTING!! The ground is softening! Growing things are popping up all over the place! Is that authoritarian, Trump-like dictator unaware?
(this points to something that has always caused me to doubt the catastrophism of the environmentalists: How can it be that EVERY change in the climate, EVERYWHERE, is negative? Aren't there going to be places with longer, warmer growing seasons? More rain in arid areas? Less rain in flood-prone areas? More easily survivable winters? (I'm thinking Minnesota, not Siberia there)
But no. Every change, everywhere, is portrayed as a disaster. Seems...off, somehow.
The prehistoric (circa 10,000 bce) CNN talking heads were crying about how the Ohio valley polar bears were being decimated by the melting of the Laurentide ice sheet. Not to mention how the mammoth, giant sloth, sabertooth tiger, and all the other North American mega-fauna were rapidly approaching an extinction event.
If FEMA has enough people to sit around figuring out what to do after a nuclear war, they got too much money.
Maybe they should figure out what to do after a hurricane.
Or maybe we should just drop that entire waste of money and let the Red Cross and the churches figure it out.
FEMA needs one employee, the guy with the checkbook.
This advice is about as effective as the old nuclear drills we did as student and hid under out desks.
The only good advice I have ever seen on a nuclear holocaust is to:
a. bend over
b. place you head between your legs
c. kiss your ass goodbye.
Some Liberty Lover you are, w8ll8ng to prostrate yourself before tThe Butchers of Moscow, Beijing, and possibly in the future, Mecca and Tehran?
It doesn't have to be that way! Physicist Dr. Petr Beckmann told years ago that nuclear war, while horrific, is not the end of the world. Stay way from areas that would be most affected by the immediate blast, provision up a shelter, and with fallout, remember The Rule of Seven.
Here ais his speech on the subject in four parts, two here, two linked below:
Dr. Petr Beckmann--"Preventing Nuclear War"
https://youtu.be/YsIPgs-f94w
Dr. Petr Beckmann "Preventing Nuclear War" Part 2
https://youtu.be/YsIPgs-f94w
Dr. Petr Beckmann-"Preventing Nuclear War" Part 3
https://youtu.be/4c4mO0TY6vg
Dr. Petr Beckmann--"Preventing Nuclear War" Part 4
https://youtu.be/CuYBdukDf4s
And remember: You have only one life to live. Spend it upholding the freedom that gives everything that makes that life worth living!
Does anyone have a copy of the Golem Press flyer with calculations of weapons needed to destroy 90% of LA? Drop me a line if you do.
Oops! Here's the corrected link to Part 2:
Dr. Petr Beckmann "Preventing Nuclear War" Part 2
https://youtu.be/dYRNSX-eQ5I
Wow. You must be fun at a party, you can't even get a joke.
Ah, but some took that joke as a serious strategy for nuclear war. That's no laughing matter.
I posted the wrong link for Part 2. See above.
Beckmann was 13 and quite displeased when Hitler (the German original) ordered National Socialist troops to march into Czechoslovakia. So he was 20 when the locals rounded up and executed the "Sudeten" Germans used as the pretext for the invasion. This is another reason not to vote for The Kleptocracy.
Giga-Watt? Are you saying Petr Beckmann helped do that? Cite?
This is one time where they actually follow the science. The "social distancing" bit is bullshit, but, wearing a mask is the correct advice. Before COVID we wore masks to keep from inhaling particles. That's what you want in the event of a nuclear explosion and you survive.
just remember to get the mask with the lead lined cloth mask.
(sarc, just so "The Encogitationer" get it!)
Now that's funny. 'Cause you can't die from COVID-19 if you're dead from Lead poisoning or a broke neck from supporting a Lead mask.
🙂 *A-Huk!*
Good god, they are laying the programming on so thick. A mask protects you from nuclear weapons: clown world at warp speed. These effects will never go away. People are changed for-ever
Given that they are winding down the virus propaganda machine just in time to ramp up the war propaganda machine - until the next virus comes along right on cue - let's put their fear-mongering lies under a microscope and examine them in order to arm ourselves with the knowledge we need to guard ourselves against the next wave of deception:
-New Normal
-Build Back Better
-Follow The Science
-Flatten the Curve
-Alone Together
-Stay Home
-Protect/Save the NHS
-Save Lives-Your Home is Your Lifeline
-Stay Home-Save Lives, Avoid Stage 5
-Don’t Panic, Don’t Rush, Don’t Overstock
-Trust The Science
-Stay smart – Stay Safe – Stay Open
-NHS Staff: We Stay At Work for You – You Stay At Home For Us
-Test, Trace, Treat
-Only You Can Prevent the Spread
-The vaccine will save us – The booster will save us – The fourth dose is the answer
-Your freedom ends where your contagion begins.
-Believe In The Science
-I wear my mask to protect you and you wear your mask to protect me
-Out of an abundance of caution
-We’re all in this together
-It's Safe and Effective
-There is no evidence that that vaccine is harmful…
-THE SCIENCE IS YOUR NEW GOD AND IT IS WHAT WE SAY IT IS
These are not science terms and phrases. They are hypnotic chants meant to induce an audience into a suggestive state of mind – this is why they are repeated over and over and over again.
Furthermore, masking has historically been an integral part of an initiation ritual: in our case the initiation into the “new normal” the globalists have planned for us.
Put another way - as you all are of course aware - all of this was one giant world-wide psychological operation. Here is a collection of authorities admitting this with its horrible effects woven through them. Take the time to read through this–the crimes are horrible:
https://tritorch.com/covidhypnosis
Hey, that parade y'all tried to jump to the head of? It made a turn a block or two back that you missed. Sorry you misread the invitation.
"Most Americans say some restrictions on normal activities should remain in place to try to control the coronavirus, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll, which finds that public wariness of the pandemic lingers even as federal health officials and a growing roster of governors have softened mask advice.
The nationwide survey also shows that, two years into a health crisis that has claimed nearly 950,000 lives in the United States, bipartisan majorities think the virus is only “somewhat under control” or “not at all” controlled. Even so, most say they have fully or mostly returned to their normal, pre-coronavirus activities...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/03/01/coronavirus-not-under-control-post-abc-poll/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main
Of course, some of that polling might be a result of the well-known "Reluctant to Admit Being a FUCKING IDIOT For Two Years" Syndrome. Or maybe "Couldn't make a connection when politicians and health bureaucrats were standing between ruthless, demonstrably amoral pharma companies and a 12-figure payoff" Embarrassment Disorder.
Prediction: A lot of BS will be excused under the phrase "An over-abundance of caution". With no mention of "bags of lobbying swag".
Prediction 2: The Dems are going to claim victory over the Trump Virus, and also take imaginary credit for saving "millions of lives".
Biden will claim, I'm guessing 5 million. Politico will fact-check this unverifiable claim and find it "Mostly True". CNN will hector viewers for showing ingratitude if they don't vote blue in the fall. Joy Reid will compare criticism of the CDC and Fauci to slavery or some shit.
I make this prediction using my super "Lived through the last three years" Power.
Zombie Apocalypse. Radiation from nuclear bombs mutate CoVid-19 and results in a virus causing an overwhelming desire for raw human flesh.
Don't blame me. I voted for Gary, armed and neutral.
"Help me! Fallout is raining down from the sky!"
"May I first see your negative PCR test from within the last 24 hours?"
If your grandmother or any other member of the family
Should die whilst in the shelter
Put them outside, but remember to tag them first
For identification purposes
No need where I live, the wolf's the DNR says doesn't exist will clean up the area by morning.
FEMA - what a fucking joke.
So if I get Covid in a bomb shelter and there are no survivors left to catch it from me, is it still Trump’s fault?
What the actual fuck? There are no atheists in foxholes. There better not be any Karens in fallout shelters.
Our government is an international embarrassment.
Overall great sentiments, but a gentle correction: There are Atheists in Foxholes (not that being in a foxhole is a first option desirable thing) and God doss not exist for them or anyone else to believe...M'Lady Dada!
*Tips Civil Defense helmet.*
Here's link on a poem and a memorial to all Atheists and Freethinkers who served the U.S. in combat, both living and dead:
Atheists In Foxholes--Freedom From Religion Foundation
https://ffrf.org/campaigns/atheists-in-foxholes
Added Pop-Up Video Factoid: Pat Tillman, the NFL player who volunteered to go to Afghanistan was an Atheist.
Oh, and if you want to keep the Karens out of the bomb shelter, just put a helmet-hair wig with a cellphone attached to it on a mannequin head, put a bullet hole through both, then post the effigy outside the shelter door.
And if Dada looks like anything like GaGa or any of her Monsters, you're welcome at my shelter. 😉
https://ffrf.org/campaigns/atheists-in-foxholes
That "envy the dead" crap began with the 09AUG Paris edition of Stars and Stripes commenting the difficulty of telling injured from dead Hiroshima victims. Then on 25AUG radiation sickness became evident amid pleas of "please kill me." Both Orwell and later Rand remarked on Asian attraction to death. The Soviets to whom The Bomb was a frightful warning to behave, the affair was a source of defeatist memes to be cultivated for export.
New recommendation from Department of Homeland Security: “In the event of a crisis, ignore all CDC crisis advice”.
"And ours too. You were better off without us. Goodbye, Cruel World."
I think they left out, "take your vitamins and get 8 hours of sleep."
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