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Reason Roundup

After Paid Leave Plan Gets Chopped, Biden Promises Revamped Spending Proposal

Plus: Six Flags arbitrage, Tom Cotton misleads about qualified immunity, and more...

Eric Boehm | 10.28.2021 9:35 AM

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Democrats appear likely to abandon plans to include an expensive new federal entitlement program—paid family leave—as they try to trim the overall cost of President Joe Biden's "Build Back Better" plan proposal.

Biden's plan called for a federal paid leave program that would replace up to 85 percent of a worker's pay (with that percentage falling for higher-paid workers) for up to 12 weeks per year. Workers could access the paid leave program if they were having a baby, taking care of an elderly or sick relative, or recovering from a serious illness of their own.

There has not been an official Congressional Budget Office assessment of how much the paid leave program would cost, but a similar stand-alone proposal drawn up by Democrats in 2019 carried a $547 billion price tag over 10 years. That made the paid leave proposal one of the more expensive heaves in Biden's proposal. Even after Democrats tried to trim the benefits by reducing the timeframe to just four weeks instead of 12, the price tag was still over $300 billion, Politico reported earlier this month.

Ultimately, the high cost is what seems to have doomed that aspect of Biden's plan.

???? Senate Democrats have decided to drop paid family and medical leave, a key cornerstone of Joe Biden's presidential campaign, from their mammoth social spending package Wednesday after attempts to drastically pare it down were deemed insufficient, three sources tell me.

— Eleanor Mueller (@Eleanor_Mueller) October 27, 2021

The problem facing Democrats right now is rooted in basic budget math of the kind that usually gets ignored in Washington. Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) has said he is worried about the trajectory of the national debt and will not support a social spending plan that relies on more borrowing. Without his support, Democrats do not have a majority in the Senate. So the plan has to include enough revenue offsets to pay for the proposed new spending—or, at least, pay for them sufficiently to satisfy Manchin.

But Democrats keep backing away from the sorts of large-scale tax increases necessary to pay for a $3.5 trillion spending plan—like the proposed "billionaire tax" on unrealized capital gains that reportedly got axed on Wednesday. As Reason's Peter Suderman explains, that tax was a terrible idea (and maybe even an unconstitutional one), but discarding it reveals something about the underlying negotiations over Biden's plan:

It is certainly possible that some deal will still be negotiated, that some other tax mechanism or mechanisms will be found that can raise sufficient revenue to make the tax-and-spending math work. But even if something eventually passes, Democrats' down-to-the-wire struggle highlights the inherent political difficulty of raising taxes, even within a party that is nominally devoted to the idea that higher taxes, especially on the rich and well-off, are a popular political good. And the reason for that difficulty is not the intransigence of tax-hating Republicans, or the existence of the Senate filibuster, but the fact that Democrats are having trouble mustering sufficient support from elected Democrats.

So, to review: Manchin won't vote for more borrowing. Democrats can't find the votes for big tax increases. The only remaining option, at that point, is to start hacking away at the spending side of the legislation. Which is exactly what Democrats are doing, and that's why paid leave appears to be heading for the cutting committee room floor.

Manchin on Wednesday stressed that his opposition to new benefits was rooted in concern for the country's long-term fiscal status, noting in comments to reporters both the nearly $29 trillion national debt and the looming insolvency of the trust funds for Social Security and Medicare. "In good conscience, I have a hard time increasing benefits—which, all of us can agree we'd love to have this and love to have that—when you can't even take care of what you have," Manchin said.

Manchin talks to us on billionaires' tax: "I don't like the connotation that we are targeting different people"

On Medicare expansion: "I have hard time increasing" benefits

On paid leave, Manchin said given the debt: "It doesn't make sense to me. … I just can't do it" pic.twitter.com/mMZfW20Gk5

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 27, 2021

Here's the real kicker for progressives: A paid leave proposal, expensive though it may be, is politically popular even among Republicans. If Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D–N.Y.), who has been championing the policy, were able to bring a stand-alone bill for a paid leave program to the Senate floor (along with a mechanism to pay it), it is at least theoretically possible that such a bill would pass. Sure, there would be negotiations, amendments, and arguments over it. Legislators would have to legislate, in other words. But there are almost certainly 60 votes in the Senate for some form of federal paid leave program.

Instead, there will likely be no federal paid leave program. And that's at least in part due to the fact that Democrats are trying to cram all their big ideas into a single piece of legislation, rather than trying to find agreement for individual items and moving them one at a time.

Congress is gradually moving toward having only one bill per year, with everything stuffed into it, negotiated by just a few congressional leaders, completely behind closed doors, with no floor amendments permitted.

We're largely already there.

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) October 28, 2021

Where does that leave Biden's bill on the eve of the latest deadline for a Senate vote that seems nowhere close to happening? The president is supposed to meet with congressional Democrats on Thursday to present a new framework that The Washington Post promises will "win the support of all Democrats." Meanwhile, The New York Times says the revamped plan "is likely to leave some critical issues unresolved, including how to pay for it."

So, yeah.

One of the cardinal rules of politics—and political media, especially—is that nothing is ever as bad (or as good) as it seems. These are professions where overreacting is a way of life. That said, here's something White House Chief of Staff (and longtime Biden confidant) Ron Klain retweeted on Wednesday night. Judge for yourself how things are going right now over at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Normal stuff, just the White House Chief of Staff retweeting a description of the emerging BBB package as a "grab-bag of ill-designed, underfunded programs that are all set to self-destruct during the second Trump administration" pic.twitter.com/LcVvIJlUAZ

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) October 28, 2021


FREE MINDS

Sen. Tom Cotton (R–Ark.) penned a wildly inaccurate piece for National Review defending qualified immunity. Reason's Billy Binion helpfully offers some corrections:

Misconception #1: Qualified immunity is "essential to effective policing."

QI allows gov't officials to violate your rights with little fear of liability in civil court. To say it's essential is to say that cops need to be able to violate your rights to do their jobs. /2 pic.twitter.com/M6czw0sOZJ

— Billy Binion (@billybinion) October 27, 2021

Read the whole thing.


FREE MARKETS

How to eat for an entire year on $150—as long as your stomach can handle it:

It all started on the first day of his internship in 2014, when Dylan noticed the rollicking coasters of Six Flags Magic Mountain from the windows of his new office. Fresh out of college and something of a coaster-fanatic already, Dylan was perusing the options for Six Flags' annual pass when he stumbled upon what might be the deal of his lifetime — for a one-time fee of $150, he could eat two meals a day, every day at the park for an entire year. Since his office was just a five-minute drive away, it was a no-brainer.

"That entire first year, I don't think I ever went to the grocery store," he says. "I timed it so I was able to go there during my lunch break, go back to work, then stop back for dinner on my way home."

Over the course of seven years of eating at the Six Flags food court, Dylan claims he saved enough to pay off his student loans, get married, and buy a house. Read the whole saga in MEL Magazine.


QUICK HITS

• Facebook doesn't make people angrier. Some people are just jerks.

• Another In-N-Out burger joint was shut down in California for being "an immediate health hazard to the public" because the location won't check customers' vaccine status before serving them.

• Hong Kong approved a new censorship law prohibiting content that Chinese officials believe "might endanger national security."

• America is in desperate need of more workers, but federal officials wasted at least 400,000 visa slots during the fiscal year that ended in September.

• Next week's gubernatorial election in Virginia could provide a post-Trump road map for the GOP.

• Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre repaid $600,000 in welfare he improperly received from Mississippi.

• You're gonna need a bigger….whatever you keep scorpions in?

As if small scorpions weren't scary enough, scientists have discovered an ancient fossil of a sea scorpion that was 16 times larger than the present-day scorpion—almost as big as a dog!

Read: https://t.co/cuw753qVOK

????: Nanjing Institute of Geology and Palaeontology/Y Dinghua pic.twitter.com/3IPE71dLeJ

— The Weather Channel India (@weatherindia) October 27, 2021

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Democrats appear likely to abandon plans to include an expensive new federal entitlement program—paid family leave—as they try to trim the overall cost of President Joe Biden's "Build Back Better" plan proposal.

    Apparently they're not serious about making America great again.

    1. Chumby   4 years ago

      Wonder how the fifty centers here would be compensated under mandatory paid leave. One could say it wouldn’t spply since they are independent contractors yet there is nothing independent about them.

      1. Fats of Fury   4 years ago

        $0.425 cents per non-post

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    3. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

      Let all the parents eat at Six Flags daily like this guy and they'll have money for child care, homeschooling, and entertainment for the kiddies too! Who needs Paid Leave or School Vouchers with a deal like this?

      lFresh out of college and something of a coaster-fanatic already, Dylan was perusing the options for Six Flags' annual pass when he stumbled upon what might be the deal of his lifetime — for a one-time fee of $150, he could eat two meals a day, every day at the park for an entire year. Since his office was just a five-minute drive away, it was a no-brainer.

      "That entire first year, I don't think I ever went to the grocery store," he says. "I timed it so I was able to go there during my lunch break, go back to work, then stop back for dinner on my way home."

      Over the course of seven years of eating at the Six Flags food court, Dylan claims he saved enough to pay off his student loans, get married, and buy a house. Read the whole saga in MEL Magazine.

      I do wonder, though, if the Six Flags menu is tasty. Gotta have motivation after all.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Ultimately, the high cost is what seems to have doomed that aspect of Biden's plan.

    Suddenly zero dollars is a high cost? What do they want? Negative dollars? It will make money? Because the administration is willing to say that.

  3. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

    FJB
    Total failure

    1. R Mac   4 years ago

      Fuck lying ass Dee!

    2. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Let's go Brandon had 4 of the top 10 apple iTunes download spots yesterday.

      1. Overt   4 years ago

        What I love about this is that when the TikTok kidz did basically this same social-media exploitation to fuck with Trump's rallies, it was this bold example of kids using their tech savvy against those old boomers. But now that the right is doing it, this is an example of tech bullying, and is an obnoxious bunch of BS that doesn't belong in polite company.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

          What I love about this is that when the TikTok kidz did basically this same social-media exploitation to fuck with Trump's rallies, it was this bold example of kids using their tech savvy against those old boomers.

          Which was really just astroturf, as it was typically done by connected teenagers like Steve Schmidt's daughter, showing that it was likely coordinated by the NeverTrump organizations.

          The Let's Go Brandon songs are much more organic, which is why leftists are in such a lather about it--they're fully invested in the delusion that they are the plucky underdogs, and don't like being reminded that they are actually the establishment.

        2. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

          Are you suggesting that people are partisan and have flexible morals? That can't be true.

        3. damikesc   4 years ago

          It's also profane and vulgar and sign of the coarsening of our political dialogue in a way "Fuck Trump" was clearly not.

          I'd take these admonishments seriously if the same people made them the prior four years. But, now, they just dislike the rules they implemented.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

            "No bad tactics, just bad targets."

          2. R Mac   4 years ago

            Just another example of sarc and Dee’s hypocrisy.

    3. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

      Phuck Phailing Phil Murphy....Governor of People's Republic of NJ.

      The man is utterly incompetent.

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

        And probably still on Goldman Sachs' payroll.

        1. D-Pizzle   4 years ago

          ...and sailing to reelection (OMG Murphy's only up by 10%).

  4. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Sen. Tom Cotton (R–Ark.) penned a wildly inaccurate piece for National Review defending qualified immunity.

    He knows the value of an unencumbered enforcement arm for central planning.

    1. EddieD_Boston   4 years ago

      What was inaccurate?

    2. Bubba Jones   4 years ago

      He is right that Qualified Immunity is crucial.

      The problem is the current interpretation of the doctrine is off the rails.

      Give them personal immunity for following policy and the law. Hold departments and governments accountable for bad policy. Hold officers accountable for violating policy or violating law.

      Current QI implementation doesn’t do any of that.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

        Personal liability insurance. Once a state agent becomes so problematic that they are uninsurable, then they are no longer employable in law enforcement.

  5. Overt   4 years ago

    I heard on the news this morning that they cut family leave and free community college. I dislike any spending, but what is left in there for the middle class?

    At some point the country is going to have to face the reality that if it wants middle class entitlements, the middle class is going to have to pay more taxes. This basic reality is on evidence in the Nordic countries that the left always wants to mimic. Given the fact that the 1% is always on the hook for paying taxes, is it any wonder that legislation overwhelmingly seems to support the top 1%?

    1. Not Robbers=Nut Rubbers   4 years ago

      The middle class wants what it's grandparents and parents got with Social Security and Medicare. A program that they can pay far less into than they will take out and let their children pay for it after they're dead.

      Friedman was right that we are all Keynesians now and in the long run we are all dead.

      1. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

        Except what their grandparents got was a lower life expectancy, so their years on the SS and Medicare gravy train were more limited.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

      At some point the country is going to have to face the reality that if it wants middle class entitlements, the middle class is going to have to pay more taxes. This basic reality is on evidence in the Nordic countries that the left always wants to mimic.

      That's why people like Bernie Sanders and Toothy McBooberson are such disingenuous idiots--because they sincerely believe all these programs can be funded by simply hoovering money and paper "wealth" from the top 1%. Their whole grift operates off of the argument that everyone can get MOAR FREE SHIT that's funded by a very tiny percentage of the population "who can afford to make a little less."

      They know damn well that middle class people seeing their marginal tax rates go up to 40% or more to pay for this stuff is going to get massive pushback.

    3. Cronut   4 years ago

      "...but what is left in there for the middle class?"

      The bill.

    4. Stuck in California   4 years ago

      Norway props up its social spending with great North Sea oil reserves.

      Also, ever buy anything in Oslo? Shit's expensive there. Everything. Even in a local store, not at a pub, a beer will cost you 3.50 or 4 euro.

      You're absolutely right, if people really want government provided stuff, everyone will have to pay. And I say everyone because I feel like the middle class is being gutted. If it reaches the "middle classes" that will have to include the lower middle class.

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        Doesn't take a lot of reading regarding WWII to find out Sweden came out of that disaster a very, very wealthy country; sold iron ore and ball bearings to Germany until they were threatened with a post-war boycott by the allies.
        And all if it was paid in gold.
        Made social programs for a population that size affordable for a very long time.

  6. Chumby   4 years ago

    Why not 52 weeks of paid leave and raise the minimum wage to $500/hour? This is how wealth is created, no?

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      All done at no cost, because now everyone is a millionaire, and pays high taxes!

      1. Chumby   4 years ago

        Psaki psays no new taxes or pspending increases.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          Pshe is psuch a piece of pshit.

          1. Chumby   4 years ago

            You made psarc psad.

            1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

              Pso?

              1. HorseConch   4 years ago

                Pshe's kind of Psexy, though.

                1. Chumby   4 years ago

                  You pstick your pschlong in her and you’ll be psorry.

        2. Fats of Fury   4 years ago

          "The Psaki barks, but the carnival goes on" - Old Polish Proverb

        3. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

          Didn't Hawkeye and Trapper John make Psaki in their tent?

        4. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

          According to this fine prodigy in the cowboy hat, all of us need to see a Piss-sychologist, or maybe a Piss-sycho-animal-ist (fast forward to 2:42):

          "Zip, Zip Hurray"
          https://dai.ly/x6lxm31

  7. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Facebook doesn't make people angrier. Some people are just jerks.

    Thank God Reason.com hasn't fallen to that fate.

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Can you imagine what would happen if the commentariat became like mean girls?

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

        You mean they [we]haven't?

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          The only true no team libertarians left are Team jeff/mike/sarc/spb/chipper.

        2. Vernon Depner   4 years ago

          Don't conflate S&M with bullying.

      2. R Mac   4 years ago

        I’m still waiting on sarc’s complete mute list.

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          ABC ranting to demand access to his list was one of the funnier things this week.

          1. R Mac   4 years ago

            Agreed. Hey Fist, I’m assuming you’re not on his list? Can you ask him to post his complete list next time he brings it up?

            1. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

              I'M NOT YOUR SECRETARY.

              Plus I'd just screw it up.

            2. Fats of Fury   4 years ago

              Don't worry he unmutes every response, reads them then replies to remind you that you're on permamute.

          2. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

            That was f'ing hilarious = ABC demanding to get muted.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

          I’m still waiting on sarc’s complete mute list.

          Is it anything like Hihn's Enemies List? Considering I had the record for number of times I was identified on there, I wonder if our high-dudgeon, self-righteous commenters are taking a similar tack.

          1. Chumby   4 years ago

            Were you part of the CHRISTIAN CALIPHATE? SNICKERS

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

              These ANTI-GUBMINT GOOBERS! "sneer"

            2. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

              "LEFT - RIGHT = ZERO"

              Hihn was the only troll to take actually Sevo's advice, though. https://reason.com/2019/08/07/forget-fake-news-the-real-problem-is-stupid-news/?comments=true#comment-7884879

              1. R Mac   4 years ago

                Lol. Dark humor is the best humor.

          2. sarcasmic   4 years ago

            I don't have a list. But when someone has to attack me personally to make a point I just mute them. And unlike Charlie Brown, I don't let them hold the ball for me again. Once an idiot who must talk about people because they're too stupid to talk about ideas, always an idiot who must talk about people because they're too stupid to talk about ideas.

            And you know what Ron White said...

            1. JesseAz   4 years ago

              Does he say you're a hypocrite because you do literally everything you accuse others of?

    2. JFree   4 years ago

      Facebook is now apparently dead to Hebrew speakers. 'Meta'.

      On the bright side, this name change has given us an opportunity to see how many companies get surprised by language translation issues.

      KFC translated 'finger lickin good' into Chinese as 'eat your fingers'.

      Rolls Royce named its car Silver Mist until someone realized 'mist' is 'shit' in German. So it became the Silver Shadow instead.

      Honda unveiled 'Fitta' for a subcompact until someone said in Swedish that means 'cunt'. So it got changed to Jazz/Fit/Live depending on the part of the world that still buys subcompacts.

      1. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

        In Red China, eating one's own fingers probably did happen in The Great Leap Forward.

  8. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

    As if small scorpions weren’t scary enough, scientists have discovered an ancient fossil of a sea scorpion that was 16 times larger than the present-day scorpion—almost as big as a dog!

    That brings back a bad memory of one of the sci-fi flicks I saw as a very young child. It was sort of like Tarantula but in this case it was a giant scorpion that terrorized Mexico.

    1. Eeyore   4 years ago

      I bet they tasted amazing.

      1. Jerryskids   4 years ago

        They do taste amazing - just the right amount of lean and fat, spicy and umame, with just a hint of cilantro and guacamole. I don't know how the scorpions taste.

    2. stainles   4 years ago

      "The Black Scorpion"?

      I've seen that, but only in the MST3K version.

      1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

        I don't remember the title or much about the overall plot. I just remember the giant scorpion chasing crowds of terrified Mexicans, and how much the scorpion slobbered.

  9. Overt   4 years ago

    Good ol Reason has had their comments broken now for over a day. It is a simple fix- the "Submit" button dumps you to an old URI that doesn't work any more. They need to preface the URI with ?comments=true. But because they don't do that, you load the page then have to delete the #comment-1234 at the end of the URI and refresh, then click the comments button. This, by the way, is activity that will get them banned from their annoying ad companies.

    1. R Mac   4 years ago

      Been wondering what’s up. I’ve been clicking “comments” then selecting “open in new tab”. Of course then I have to close the old window. Pretty annoying.

      1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        I thought it was just me

        1. Rich   4 years ago

          Nope. And it seems to be clobbered/annoying in several ways.

        2. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

          Yeah, I thought Brave was just blocking something.

      2. R Mac   4 years ago

        Just tried your method and it worked, but the DuckDuckGo app on my phone makes it difficult to select only part of the URI.

      3. Claptrap   4 years ago

        I figured it was NoScript breaking something again. Good to know it's not just me.

        I just press back and refresh the page after posting. Seems to work fine, though I have to clear my own comment box. Which seems like it could double as a euphemism for lady 'batin.

    2. Chumby   4 years ago

      The $0.50 crowd hardest hit.

    3. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

      Thanks, I wondered what was up with it.

    4. R Mac   4 years ago

      I hear Dee knows everyone at Reason, maybe someone he hasn’t muted can ask him to get it fixed?

    5. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Conspiracy alert: It is so we can't misquote jeff and sarc by directly linking to their direct past comments.

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Btw. Easy to fix old links you have bookmarked.

        https://reason.com/2021/02/09/the-not-so-peaceful-transfer-of-power/?comments=true#comment-8750591

        Just add the ?comments=true before #

    6. Sevo   4 years ago

      It's amazing that Reason has any paid ads since the site is hosted on steam-powered servers; slow and buggy as hell.

      1. CE   4 years ago

        I thought the power came from squirrels on a hamster wheel.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          They are talking about upgrading to transistorized servers maybe someday.

    7. Earth Skeptic   4 years ago

      So the reason IT people are just as retarded as their writers?

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        The Reason IT 'people' is somebody's nephew.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Another In-N-Out burger joint was shut down in California for being "an immediate health hazard to the public" because the location won't check customers' vaccine status before serving them.

    That precious sterilizing vaccine.

    1. Chumby   4 years ago

      Jack In the Box remains open.

  11. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

    "America is in desperate need of more workers, but federal officials wasted at least 400,000 visa slots during the fiscal year that ended in September."

    Specifically, Charles Koch — the billionaire who funds Reason.com — needs more workers. What do you expect him to do, hire US-born labor? Maybe offer better wages?

    Absolutely not! The key to Mr. Koch's success is that decades ago he realized importing Black and Brown bodies (especially from Mexico) is simply more cost-effective.

    #InDefenseOfBillionaires

  12. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Hong Kong approved a new censorship law prohibiting content that Chinese officials believe "might endanger national security."

    China is a private company so it's not censorship.

    1. Lebron James   4 years ago

      Hurr durr, you just need to educate yourself.

    2. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

      buiLD yu0R oWn h0Ng koNG...

  13. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

    "Next week's gubernatorial election in Virginia could provide a post-Trump road map for the GOP."

    LOL

    McAuliffe will win easily.

    1. Longtobefree   4 years ago

      Well, we can be sure he will get the most "votes", and be declared the winner.
      We will never know if the majority of the voters prefer him.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    America is in desperate need of more workers, but federal officials wasted at least 400,000 visa slots during the fiscal year that ended in September.

    Can't the administration just mail those 400,000 their unemployment benefits overseas?

    1. R Mac   4 years ago

      They can put their absentee ballot in the same envelope to save on postage.

    2. JesseAz   4 years ago

      The US has plenty of workers. 2 million just left the workforce the last 2 months. They have seen they get paid as much from enhanced government programs as they do working. We don't have a lack of workers problem. We have a government socialism problem.

      1. Vernon Depner   4 years ago

        How can I sign up for that? I'd love to quit working.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

        Yeah, the argument that the US has a worker shortage is straight-up nonsense. We've been importing millions of new workers for decades for the precise purpose of funneling them to shit-tier jobs that Americans supposedly won't do--an argument that the Depression should have rendered useless nearly 100 years ago, as the most successful programs of the New Deal were specifically designed to get people working, before LBJ took the stupid idea of universal welfare to its logical conclusion and sought to find ways to pay people not to work.

        Worker shortages are from a very complex set if circumstances--Boomers retiring, particularly in high-skilled trades and blue-collar jobs that Gen-Xers and Millennials avoided like the plague; pandemic-induced job cuts and unemployment programs; and recently, people being fired or quitting because they won't take once specific "vaccine."

        In that light, this has the potential for lulz aplenty--let's see who wins this game of chicken:

        De Blasio's going to get people killed': FDNY union tells members to show up for work and defy mayor's Friday deadline as 32% of firefighters and 25% of cops have NOT yet had vaccine - trash piles up due sanitation workers' anti-jab protest

        One third of US military is still unvaccinated: 468,000 active duty members have just one month to get the shot by mandate deadline or face the ax

        I'm no cultural anthropologist or economist, but I suspect that organizations losing a quarter or more of their not-so-easily replaceable, expensive-to-train workforces isn't going to improve their operational efficiency, or maintain the vast logistical network needed to keep the country's economy from devolving into something that makes Bartertown look like a complex society.

        1. CE   4 years ago

          We can just bring in National Guard workers to back fill for the people who were fired.

          Oh wait.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

            Keep in mind that Biden's threatened to throw the ones in the military out with a dishonorable discharge, meaning that every single veteran's benefit they'd normally get for their service would be denied to them, and also make it a lot harder for them to find work on the outside.

            I'm waiting with breathless anticipation to see if these people actually decide to take that hit on principle, or if Austin even decides to go that far with most of them. The US has long relied on middle- and working-class whites to make up the bulk of its force, and I can't think of a better way to permanently damage the US military than saddling a shit-ton of people from this class (as well as a not-insignificant number of Hispanics and black service members) with a scarlet "D" that effectively destroys their livelihood.

            1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

              In a sane world Biden would go to jail for making that threat as Commander in Chief.

              We're really going to need to hold Covid Nuremberg trials for politicians and bureaucrats when this is all over.

              1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

                Surprise! It’s never going to be over.

            2. Longtobefree   4 years ago

              Trump will issue pardons in 2024 - - - - - - - - - -

        2. USA_Jew   4 years ago

          De Blasio's going to get people killed': FDNY union tells members to show up for work and defy mayor's Friday deadline as 32% of firefighters and 25% of cops have NOT yet had vaccine - trash piles up due sanitation workers' anti-jab protest

          Plenty of potential workers in the suburbs could take their places by driving into the city ... oh never mind.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    Next week's gubernatorial election in Virginia could provide a post-Trump road map for the GOP.

    Run solely against idiots nakedly beholden to public school unions?

    1. Mickey Rat   4 years ago

      That is a description of your standard Democrat officeholder.

  16. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

    And that's at least in part due to the fact that Democrats are trying to cram all their big ideas into a single piece of legislation, rather than trying to find agreement for individual items and moving them one at a time.

    I sometimes think this desperate rush to get their entire agenda in one fell swoop is because they see this time as a golden opportunity to establish their socialist worker's utopia and get it set in stone so it can't be undone.

    1. CE   4 years ago

      That and the increasing likelihood that they will lose their majorities in both houses of Congress in the 2022 elections.

      1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

        I'm guessing they're hoping to forestall this by passing the big grab-bag of goodies and portraying themselves as Santa's brother, Marx Claus.

  17. Rich   4 years ago

    Democrats are trying to cram all their big ideas into a single piece of legislation, rather than trying to find agreement for individual items and moving them one at a time.

    "Hey! 'Infrastructure' *is* an individual item!"

    Seriously, where's Joe Manchin on requiring *every* bill to deal with *one* *small* item?

    1. Not Robbers=Nut Rubbers   4 years ago

      But who doesn't love cramming something big into a single piece?

      1. mulched   4 years ago

        Not trans-phobic lesbians, for sure.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

          They have a prepared answer for those cock-hating Lesbos.

          A transgender woman with a deep voice, a square jaw, and a penis that you do not want to have sex with is not a man. She is a woman that you don’t find attractive.

          https://openletter.earth/an-open-letter-to-the-bbc-regarding-an-article-published-by-catherine-lowbridge-9223a3ca

    2. Minadin   4 years ago

      At least in that one reporter's tweet, she forgot to call it 'infrastructure' and accidentally referred to the bill as a 'mammoth social spending package'.

      1. CE   4 years ago

        The 2.1 trillion dollar mammoth spending bill the Progressive Caucus is holding hostage is the "infrastructure" bill (or at least 25% of it anyway).

        The 3.5 trillion dollar mammoth spending bill (now 1.5 trillion if we are lucky) is to save American families and address climate change. A "social infrastructure" bill, if you will.

    3. Overt   4 years ago

      That would strip about 80% of the value of being a swing vote. Omnibus bills help swing votes because they can get their pet pork into them in return for their vote.

  18. Jerryskids   4 years ago

    I see Noam Chomsky has suggested that anybody who poses a threat of passing on the COVID virus to other people should be quarantined from society. Anybody want to tell him that even after you've been vaccinated, you can still pass on the virus? I mean, suggesting that the vaccine will keep you safe from the virus sounds to me like some of that science-denying misinformation that will get you banned from social media.

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

      I used to respect that guy until I learned he's a #TrumpRussia denialist — even after the Mueller Report proved all the most shocking details were true!

      1. Chumby   4 years ago

        Some folks believe progressive media misinformation noamatter how much evidence there is to refute it.

    2. Zeb   4 years ago

      Yeah, it's ridiculous how many people are pretending that the vaccines work they way they wish they did.

      1. Overt   4 years ago

        It is amazing to me that society is so punitive towards people who don't sacrifice their liberties to the Borg Collective.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

          A demonstration for those who won't accept that resistance is futile.

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

          Self righteousness is a helluva drug.

      2. Claptrap   4 years ago

        Ironically, this is their reaction to the vaccines being less effective (and/or less durable) than advertised. It's a terribly immature, and completely predictable consequence of the shifting attitudes of the administrative state and its supporters.

        1. Zeb   4 years ago

          Which is bizarre as it's completely the opposite of what makes sense.
          If the vaccines were highly effective at stopping transmission, I would still object to mandates, but at least there would be some valid reasoning behind it. As it is, it may well be that the vaccinated are the biggest risk of infecting others since they are less likely to be tested and less likely to assume covid if they have mild symptoms.

        2. R Mac   4 years ago

          Interesting read so far, thanks. I’d like to follow up by reading Adam Whites article. Seems like something some of the writers at Reason might consider reading if they were the type to question their presumptions, but I haven’t observed any evidence they might in over a decade here.

          “In an important article titled “Google.gov”, law professor Adam J. White details both the personnel flows and deep intellectual affini­ties between Google and the Obama White House. Hundreds of people switched jobs back and forth, some of them multiple times, between this one firm and the administration over eight years – an unprecedented alignment of corporate power and the executive branch.”

          1. R Mac   4 years ago

            Found it:

            https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/googlegov

            Have to read it later.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

      I see Noam Chomsky has suggested that anybody who poses a threat of passing on the COVID virus to other people should be quarantined from society. Anybody want to tell him that even after you've been vaccinated, you can still pass on the virus?

      Like that would register with him at all. New Zealand and Australia have been doing the "zero-COVID" dummy strategy for over a year and a half now, and they're still getting cases anyway, but that hasn't stopped the Branch Covidians from believing that globally-spread, highly mutating, coronavirus can be eradicated. For them, vaccines are a silver bullet, irrespective of their actual ability to prevent the spread of a virus. The COVID vaccines are little more than the equivalent of a fetish for the Science! crowd, imbued with supernatural powers to always stop the evil sprits from causing harm.

    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

      Noam Chompsky would be a great name for midget pornstar with a predilection for cunnilingus.

      1. Eeyore   4 years ago

        Nobody wants him close to thier bits.
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwy4B9UIxWE

      2. Compelled Speechless   4 years ago

        I think you mean Gnome Chompsky.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    ...scientists have discovered an ancient fossil of a sea scorpion that was 16 times larger than the present-day scorpion—almost as big as a dog!

    Fauci will take care of that.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 years ago

      Not if the cops, beat him to it. The race is on.

  20. JesseAz   4 years ago

    Thankfully thus doesn't effect federal employees and all their paid time off.

    1. CE   4 years ago

      It may if the impasse on spending and the debt ceiling leads to a government shutdown. They will then get plenty of time off without pay, and have to depend on the generosity of the federal government to make them whole with back pay for the weeks spent not working. Good luck with that.

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        Congress already passed a law the the fed employees will automatically get back pay if they shut down

  21. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

    The Biden economy continues to concentrate wealth at the very top with an efficiency Koch-funded libertarians of yesteryear could only dream of.

    The 10 richest Americans have gained a combined $326 billion this year.

    #LibertariansForBiden

    1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

      Old Joe continues Covid's blessings.

  22. Rich   4 years ago

    Manchin (D–W.Va.) has said he is worried about the trajectory of the national debt

    The ballistic trajectory?

    1. Minadin   4 years ago

      Ballistic trajectories tend toward going down.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

        Yeah, the national debt is more like a hockey stick. Where is Al Gore when we need him?

        1. Chumby   4 years ago

          He could give a tipper two.

  23. JesseAz   4 years ago

    Billy Binion
    @billybinion
    Misconception #1: Qualified immunity is "essential to effective policing."

    QI allows gov't officials to violate your rights with little fear of liability in civil court. To say it's essential is to say that cops need to be able to violate your rights to do their jobs. /2

    Fighting a misconception with a lie isn't as strong an argument as you think it is Billy. Qincovets non adjudicated violations, not a blanket protection. Youre just lying in your response.

    Likewise qi needs to be reformed, not killed. Or else you end up with situations like the USSC changing precedence on the fly like woth gay marriage allowing lawyers to sue clerks who operated on the previous precedence.

    What shitty argumentation yet again from a reason editor.

    1. Overt   4 years ago

      I get the arguments against QI and I tend to agree with them (though I am on record saying that QI reform will not actually work without police union reform).

      However, you are correct that Binion engages in a terrible form of argumentation here. This is actually question begging. His argument only works if you assume that "QI allows gov't officials to violate your rights". That may (in many cases) be true, but it is an argument he needs to make, not just assume. So his tweet is "Your misconception is that you haven't accepted my whole argument against QI".

      Again, I generally agree with the case against QI (but don't understand why Binion is so focused on it and not union reform), but this is like Junior High Forensics sloppiness.

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Union reform would indeed be better as it would allow officials to be fired. The problem with QI is that it also does protect workers against the whims of a judicial branch constantly redefining rights. Yes there are egregious abuses, but not every claim of qi is egregious. Reason treats them all the same way instead of understanding the issue.

        1. Overt   4 years ago

          As long as Police Unions have the power they do, QI reform won't even work. The police department will be forced to pay for these increased costs. They ALREADY DO. Because when the citizen can't sue the officer, they sue the department and the department pays out. And departments pay out constantly for police officers that should be fired, but aren't actually fired. Since Police Departments have already demonstrated that they are willing to pay this price, there is no reason to believe that they won't pay the same price- just to a QI Insurance Company.

          1. sarcasmic   4 years ago

            What's the expression? Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good?

            I see that a lot around here. Anything that isn't a silver bullet is useless.

            When good ideas are mocked for not being perfect, nothing gets done.

            QI reform isn't perfect. No. But it's a start.

            1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

              Too bad you didn't want to understand that's why most of us supported Trump.

              1. JesseAz   4 years ago

                The irony being that whenever reform was brought up in anti-QI threads he was in, Sarc was attacking the reform.

                1. JesseAz   4 years ago

                  Demanding it be abolished and only abolished.

                  1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                    He's habitually inconsistent and a liar on all these issues, which would normally lead one to think he's a fifty-center. But he obviously isn't one, so the only real alternative is that he's mentally defective.

                    1. Sevo   4 years ago

                      'He's habitually a liar on all issues'
                      Muy betta, I think.

              2. Echospinner   4 years ago

                Most of who?

            2. Overt   4 years ago

              "What's the expression? Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good?"

              In this case it is, "What you are asking to do isn't just imperfect, it isn't even good."

              "It's a start" when all it does is shift more liability on the tax payers? I just don't agree. This is like saying, "Well, I shot at the tank with this bb-gun. It's not perfect, but it is a start." I would rather that instead we figured out how to do something that will move the needle.

  24. Claptrap   4 years ago

    New Jersey: about to get what they want, good and hard.

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/gov-phil-murphy-advisors-caught-talking-about-covid-19-mandate-on-camera/

    The video, released on Monday by Project Veritas, shows Wendy Martinez, who works Hispanic outreach for the campaign, tell an undercover reporter that Murphy would implement widespread mandates like California, but the plan can’t be revealed because “right now it is about him winning​.”

    “He’s going to do it, but he couldn’t do it before the elections because ​[​independent ​and undecided ​voters are​]​ all into all the s–t, my rights, my s–t,”​ Martinez said, adding, ​”​And they don’t care if they kill everybody.”​

    “He will, but right now it is about him winning​,” she said. ​

    Another campaign staffer, ​Matthew Urquijo, a digital manager, was asked by a Veritas undercover reporter about the governor’s plans for vaccine mandates.​

    “I think so. I think the problem is right now because it’s election season, he’s not going to have people say like, ‘We’re going to have a mandate now,'” Urquijo said. "But once, you know, we have a win, he's like, all right, guns blazing, like, who cares?"

    Naturally, Murphy's campaign responds by attacking the messenger. What a guy!

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

      https://abc7ny.com/new-jersey-governor-race-phil-muprhy-jack-ciattarelli/11174249/

      Even so Murphy is maintaining a very comfortable lead. New Jersey residents are so inured to authority by now that no amount of mandates revealed is likely to deter them from re-electing this asshole.

      1. Claptrap   4 years ago

        That poll was taken over the last week. This news just hit the Post yesterday, and that was the first I heard about it. ABC did a walk and talk around Westfield (a very SWPL area) yesterday and the reaction regarding any mandates was mostly negative.

        I won't get my hopes up, but if Ciatarelli can actually get some messaging out about it that's the sort of thing that could at least depress the urban D turnout he needs.

        1. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

          Jack & Diane actually need to get their asses out there and campaign.

          1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

            They are doing the best they can

            1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

              Then they deserve to lose. I want Murphy gone but Ciatarelli has been a colossal fuckup on the campaign trail. The tax rate sound bite isn't a winner this time around. Talking about lines at the DMV is just plain stupid. Murphy gave him a target-rich environment and he's done nothing with it.

              Soft-touch politics doesn't work in NJ.

              1. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

                You are correct. Christie had the right style: Smashmouth.

                1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

                  And he beat a Goldman Sachs executive.

            2. CE   4 years ago

              They are eating outside the Tastee Freez because the dining room is shut down for not checking vaccine passports.

      2. Overt   4 years ago

        "Even so Murphy is maintaining a very comfortable lead."

        People don't understand that Democrats want vaccine mandates. This is a Kulture Warz (tm) issue, now. In the California Recall race, Elder campaigned on "I'm going to roll back Mask and Vaccine mandates!" and Newsome campaigned on, "He's going to roll back mask and vaccine mandates!" The democrats overwhelmingly want mask and vaccine mandates.

        Nobody actually believed that Murphy would do anything but mandate masks and vaccines. It is just like when Obama claimed before the election that he felt marriage was between a man and a woman. Nobody *actually* believed he thought that. It just gave certain special interest groups the cover they needed to support him. That's it.

        The same is true here- Murphy is keeping quiet on mandates to give a couple centrist groups cause to support him, though everyone knows he is going to mandate like crazy later. Yeah, catching him in the lie is embarrassing, but not surprising. Everyone knew the mask was there- if it slipped a little, oh well.

        1. Claptrap   4 years ago

          People don't understand that Democrats want vaccine mandates.

          One part of the coalition certainly does. But judging even from vaccine take-up figures, I'm not sure that the urban set or Sweeney's power base (which operates the balance of power in the state) is too keen on it.

          You may be right that this is just some mask slippage that should just blow over, but it comes at an awfully inconvenient time and with polls narrowing. There's probably not another news cycle to push people into another issue if this is something that gets a "fuck that guy" reaction.

          Again, I won't hold my breath but there's more risk now, 5 days before polls close, than there was a week ago.

        2. Zeb   4 years ago

          The "pajama class" Democrats certainly want mandates. In my experience the more working class don't so much.

    2. USA_Jew   4 years ago

      The rumble between vaxers and anti-vaxers is about to begin.

  25. Moderation4ever   4 years ago

    Kudos to Dylan. This is one smart kid and he will likely go far.

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      His doctor disagrees.

  26. Brandybuck   4 years ago

    Gosh, another In-N-Out closure. I'm lucky I live in a California county that does not mandate such bullshit. I saw a movie, in a theater, this week, and was not carded. I eat indoors in restaurants at least once a week. Never been carded. Not once during the entire pandemic has anyone asked for my vaccination proof. I did show my vaccination card to get a hefty bonus from my employer. But that was wholly voluntary.

    San Francisco I can understand, there's something weird in the water that makes them go loopy. But Contra Costa is a fairly upscale county full of white affluent progressives. Why would they hamstring themselves? Oh right... flashing a vaccination card is a shibboleth. Sigh.

    I have nothing against vaccinations, I encourage people to get vaccinated, but these over the top mandates are bullshit.

    1. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

      Absolutely. In-n-Out is 100% correct that they should not be forced to turn their minimum wage earning teenage employees into vaccination police. It’s massive overreach.

    2. Sevo   4 years ago

      Hey, Brandyshit! We got what YOU deserve, TDS-addled piece of shit!

    3. Overt   4 years ago

      "I have nothing against vaccinations, I encourage people to get vaccinated, but these over the top mandates are bullshit."

      Whenever the government tries to manage our lives in ways that are deeply creepy as fuck, what started as a seemingly innocuous tradeoff morph into massive infringements of our liberties.

      What they say: "Just take 5 minutes to get the damn jab- it isn't this giant infringement of your liberty to drive to the clinic and get a poke."

      What this means in reality: "We will need a statewide tracking database, capturing your medical details. This will include a new form of tamper-resistant, trackable identification. We will conscript businesses around the state to deny you work or basic services if you cannot prove your compliance in our state-wide tracking regime. Your boss will now know your political and personal proclivities. We will require strict law enforcers in the police, workforce and health departments who will spend day after day chasing down employers and getting them to rat on you. Get ready for a significant percentage of the businesses you love shutting down because they cannot or will not comply. Oh and the kids- we are gonna implement something for them as well. We will kick kids out of school if they don't comply, and probably arrest parents as well for failing to keep their kids in the schools...."

      Very few people would sign up for vaccine mandates if those selling it really detailed the costs to privacy, small business closures, kids not going to school and parents losing jobs and possibly even being jailed. Just as fewer people would buy into the Drug War if it were sold as "We are going to make even North Korea blush with the number of black men we send to prison. And make sure your door is unlocked or we'll kick it down on our mission to shoot your dogs. (Well, we'll probably kick it down anyways. Especially if you are black.)"

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

        "We will need a statewide tracking database, capturing your medical details. This will include a new form of tamper-resistant, trackable identification. We will conscript businesses around the state to deny you work or basic services if you cannot prove your compliance in our state-wide tracking regime. Your boss will now know your political and personal proclivities. We will require strict law enforcers in the police, workforce and health departments who will spend day after day chasing down employers and getting them to rat on you. Get ready for a significant percentage of the businesses you love shutting down because they cannot or will not comply. Oh and the kids- we are gonna implement something for them as well. We will kick kids out of school if they don't comply, and probably arrest parents as well for failing to keep their kids in the schools...."

        It would be a lot easier to not view this as Mark of the Beast-type stuff if they weren't so intent on duplicating the things mentioned in that very section of the Bible.

  27. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

    Yesterday, we discussed the National School Board Association apologizing for and retracting the letter asking Biden to sic the FBI on parents for opposing their local school boards. We noted two things: 1) Neither President Biden nor Attorney General Merrick Garland were rescinding the memo directing the FBI to target parents, and 2) the letter asking Biden to act wasn't written by or approved by the board of directors for the National School Board Association.

    The letter asking Biden to sic the FBI on parents, dated September 29, 2021, was actually signed and sent (without the approval of the board of directors) by the NSBA's president (Viola Garcia) and its interim CEO (Chip Slaven)--both, apparently, in consulation with President Biden's own White House staff. In other words, the Biden administration appears to have orchestrated this letter to justify using the FBI to silence dissent against local school boards promoting progressive policies.

    We know about the collaboration between Garcia, Slaven, and Biden's White House--before the letter was sent--because of a Freedom of Information Act request by a group called, "Parents Defending Education". They published redacted copies of emails by Garcia and Slaven that repeatedly mention their collaboration with Biden's White House in crafting their letter. You can read the emails yourself at this link:

    https://defendinged.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Email-Correspondence_NSBA-Letter-to-President-Biden_Redacted.pdf

    Here are some excerpts:

    "In talks over the last several weeks with White House staff, they requested additional information on some of the specific threats, so the letter also details many of the incidents that have been occurring."

    ----Chip Slaven, September 29, 2021

    "NSBA has been engaged with the White House and the Department of Education on these and other issues related to the pandemic for several weeks now"

    ----Viola Garcia, October 2, 2021

    If these emails are legitimate, then the question isn't whether the Biden administration helped orchestrate a letter to itself to justify siccing the FBI on parents for opposing their local school boards. The question is: With whom were they collaborating with in the White House? Interfacing with the Department of Education might make sense, but who gave them the instructions from the White House?

    Was it the Attorney General? Did it involve Biden's chief of staff? Who in the White House is helping outside organizations manufacture evidence to justify siccing the FBI on parents for opposing their local school boards? Have they engaged in this kind of activity before? Is this ongoing? Is the Biden administration does in other areas, or is there something special about targeting parents for opposing their local school boards? All of these questions demand answers and require a thorough investigation.

    At the very least, the American public should be able to see any and all emails between Chip Slavin, Viola Garcia, the U.S. Department of Education, and anyone in the White House. This is like what might have happened if we had caught the Bush Jr. administration red-handed--fabricating evidence that Saddam Hussein was seeking yellowcake in Niger. IF IF IF there's a big difference between them, it's that where Bush would have been fabricating evidence to justify targeting a viscous dictator, the Biden administration is cooking up justifications to target American parents with the FBI as if they were terrorists.

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      RESIST!
      IMPEACH!
      Just like old times.

    2. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Cotton read Garland a memo from the head district attorney for the DoJ in Montana listing 13 crimes they could use to go after parents. It included things like making annoying phone calls or using the internet to cause mental distress for a school board member.

      So yes, the DoJ was actively looking for ways to go after parents and Garland lied when he said they weren't.

      1. Idaho Bob   4 years ago

        Before long, parents will be held without bail until letters of fealty are written and signed.

        1. Sevo   4 years ago

          Probably could be murdered on school property and charged with being an "insurrectionist".

      2. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

        I mentioned that in my post below.

    3. Joe Friday   4 years ago

      Ken, no one in the DOJ or WH are "targeting parents". You keep repeating your paranoid fantasy as fact. Next you'll claim they are Nazis.

      Obviously the NSBA administrators asked the WH for help with a real problem of increased threats and violence by some - maybe they are parents, maybe they aren't (you don't have to show papers to come to school board meetings). Asking for help from where you might expect to get it is not prima facie evidence of conspiracy.

      1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        Holy crap.

      2. Sevo   4 years ago

        Asshole Joe? Fuck off and die.

      3. Chumby   4 years ago

        Jackpot! Lol

      4. Overt   4 years ago

        "I have nothing against vaccinations, I encourage people to get vaccinated, but these over the top mandates are bullshit."

        We know this isn't true because members of the Board of Directors in the NSBA disagree with you. Specifically, "Rather than helping our cause and calming the waters, this letter has reawakened hostilities that were just beginning to finally calm down....the letter took a stance that went beyond what many of us would consider to be
        reasonable and used terms that were extreme...Local control has been a stalwart of our principles, and we do not want to
        abandon that concept now."

        So you are wrong Joe. Not even the board of directors believes the spin that you are trying to put forward. Stop coming here trying to defend the indefensible. You are making yourself look like a clown.

        1. Overt   4 years ago

          erg- wrong quote. I was meaning to quote Joe: "Obviously the NSBA administrators asked the WH for help with a real problem of increased threats and violence by some"

          Stupid Reason, fix the damn comments!

        2. Sevo   4 years ago

          "...You are making yourself look like a clown."

          Suggest the best way to deal with lying piles of lefty shit is to avoid engaging them at all.
          A simple "fuck off and die" will get you muted and if lying piles of lefty shit like Joe get nothing other than that, they'll end up muting all but sarc, Mike, turd and the other lying piles of lefty shit.

        3. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

          Yeah, they not only apologized for the letter--which they emphasized they never wrote or approved--but also promised to do a thorough review of their processes and procedures to make sure that the president and the interim CEO could never get away with doing such an embarrassing and stupid thing again.

          http://www.osba.org/News-Center/News_releases/20211022NSBA.aspx

          They're ashamed of the letter.

          That progressive trolls would continue to defend it even after the organization that supposedly wrote it has apologized for it and retracted it is . . . to be expected.

          Progressive politicians can be incredibly manipulative, but their followers out in the wild are like wind up toys that only go in one direction. When they're going headfirst into a wall, they don't change direction. They just keep their wheels spinning in the same direction until their masters point them in another direction.

          Most of them don't believe what they believe for reasons the way other people do. They're progressive because of how it makes them feel. Forcing other people to do things against their will for progressive causes gives their lives purpose. It makes them feel like they're part of something bigger than themselves.

          And believing in something despite all the facts and logic piling up against it makes them feel pious. The fact that no one and nothing can convince them to change their minds makes them feel smart, too. The rest of us know, of course, that being able to change our minds because of facts and logic is what makes us intelligent.

          Just because the National School Boards Association says the letter written on their masthead was an embarrassment and bunk--and apologized for it--that doesn't mean a progressive still doesn't feel important and smart for failing to be persuaded by such trivialities. To really believe, you need to stand firm no matter what facts or reason or good sense say. Don't let that get in your way! That's what it means to be a real committed progressive.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

            Progressive politicians can be incredibly manipulative, but their followers out in the wild are like wind up toys that only go in one direction. When they're going headfirst into a wall, they don't change direction. They just keep their wheels spinning in the same direction until their masters point them in another direction.

            Well, they are called "NPCs" for a reason.

          2. Joe Friday   4 years ago

            Ken made false claims - repeatedly - about what the DOJ and Garland were doing regarding increased threats and violence directed at school boards and then claimed there was a conspiracy between the NSBA and the WH to aid this effort.

            None of that happened, and especially his claim that the DOJ and WH were targeting parents they disagreed with on policy. That's rank bulls..t. The NSBA internal politics and their attempt to still those waters do not make Ken's bulls..t true and do not make the problem of increased threats and violence go away.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

              Stop being such a pussy and spell out curse words like a grown-ass man.

              1. Sevo   4 years ago

                Or:
                Stop being such as asshole; fuck off and die.

    4. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

      “In other words, the Biden administration appears to have orchestrated this letter to justify using the FBI to silence dissent against local school boards promoting progressive policies.”

      Your Red Team spin, based on assumptions not in evidence. The literal wording of the letter and the FBI’s statement were about assisting in investigating violent threats. You are spinning that they didn’t really mean what they literally said, but instead consider such things as shouting at school board meetings as violent threats. However, the FBI hasn’t actually gone after any parents.

      1. Idaho Bob   4 years ago

        "However, the FBI hasn’t actually gone after any parents."

        *YET*

        1. Sevo   4 years ago

          Mike is truly stupid and dishonest enough to assume a threat to punish an activity has no effect on that activity.
          Mike is a steaming pile of lefty shit.

        2. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

          That was addressed in detail below, and it's not surprising if White Mike isn't smart enough to understand that violating the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and the principles of freedom and justice doesn't require an actual arrest or conviction. I'd like to think she was being willfully stupid, but I suspect she's really never heard of the chilling effect before.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect

          1. Joe Friday   4 years ago

            Translating Ken: "Yes, that is correct - I have no evidence for my paranoid claims."

            1. Chumby   4 years ago

              Translating Mike: I wish my feelingz were as substantive as Ken’s logic.

            2. Sevo   4 years ago

              Joe, please keep making a public ass of yourself - make your rep truly secure.
              Oh, and fuck off and die.

            3. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

              Thank you for the accurate translation.

              1. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

                Ken overplays the “Chilling Effect” card.

          2. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

            Unless you address my point about your going beyond what the parties literally said, the only chilling effect they are exerting is against violent threats. Chilling effect against violent threats is a good thing.

        3. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

          Are you going to treat your anticipation as equivalent to something that has actually happened?

      2. Overt   4 years ago

        Just last week, Mike was insisting that all the DOJ promised to do was have meetings. He was lying. The press release from DOJ specifically said they were creating a task force that would look into prosecuting law-breakers. He knew this because it was pointed out to him several times. But here he is- an alleged libertarian- claiming that there is nothing creepy about the federal DOJ looking into local school board problems. He is transparently trying to excuse his TEAM for deplorable actions, and claiming it is Team Red Spin. It is pathetic.

        1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

          I think we should also consider the possibility that she isn't smart enough to understand what reads or the implications of what she says. It's hard for reasonable, knowledgeable, and intelligent people to imagine that level of obtuseness, but the internet is like being on the subway in New York. People on the back tail of the IQ curve are riding in the same cars with the rest of us.

          1. JesseAz   4 years ago

            He actually admitted he didn't read an article he posted the other day. And having done so would have countered the claim he made about it. But it took people pointing it out to him for him to admit it.

            1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

              I still bet she did read it--and just didn't understand what she read.

              1. Chumby   4 years ago

                Give her some slack. She only graduated from a cawmmunity cawllege.

                1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

                  Graduated? Probably never cawmpleted the course.

                  1. Chumby   4 years ago

                    Cawrrespondence classes.

          2. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

            Ah, yes, calling me “she” again as if being a female would be a bad thing. Same ol’, same ol’ misogyny from Ken.

            1. R Mac   4 years ago

              Poor Dee doesn’t understand why it’s funny she’s a she. Here’s a hint DEE, it’s not misogyny, it’s that you’re a squawking bird named Dee.

      3. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Mike ignores the fact and actions of members like the Montana DoJ members. As usual.

  28. Kevin Smith   4 years ago

    The largest sea scorpion fossil is incomplete, but likely is from an individual about 8 feet long

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Another victim of climate change.

      1. Utkonos   4 years ago

        Climate change rocked the poor fella like a hurricane!

    2. Chumby   4 years ago

      The previous record holder is stinging from this news and is now a shell of its former self.

      1. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

        The previous record holder is probably drowning in salty tears...

        1. Chumby   4 years ago

          Another scorpion managed to claw its way to the top.

          1. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

            Undoubted, that scorpion was buffeted by winds of change.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ
            🙂

          2. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

            What does Jordan Peterson have to say about all this? A scorpion is just a little land lobster.

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  30. eyeroller   4 years ago

    Conservatives—& anyone who cares about limited government

    Well, that would eliminate conservatives.

  31. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   4 years ago

    Drill Joe Drill! The old goat has DOUBLED the Dotard in rig count!

    North America Rig Count More Than Doubles

    The U.S. rig count currently stands at 533, which is 264 more than this time last year. Of the total U.S. rig count of 533, 433 of these rigs are classified as oil rigs, 99 are classified as gas rigs and one is classified as a miscellaneous rig. Compared to year ago figures, the U.S. has added 240 oil rigs and 26 gas rigs, while dropping two miscellaneous rigs.

    A total of 520 land rigs, 11 offshore rigs and two inland water rigs make up the total U.S. rig count. Compared to a year ago, the U.S. has added 266 land rigs and one inland water rig and dropped three offshore rigs.

    https://www.rigzone.com/news/north_america_rig_count_more_than_doubles-11-oct-2021-166684-article/

    1. Sevo   4 years ago

      turd lies. It's what turd does. turd is a pathological liar incapable of telling the truth, knowing he's lying, remembering which lies he told even minutes ago, and far too stupid to understand everyone else knows he lies.
      If turd posts numbers, they are outright lies or cherry-picked such as to be worthless.
      turd lies; it's all he does.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   4 years ago

        Rigzone is not lying, you old San Fran gay-fag fool!

        1. Sevo   4 years ago

          turd lies. It's what turd does. turd is a pathological liar incapable of telling the truth, knowing he's lying, remembering which lies he told even minutes ago, and far too stupid to understand everyone else knows he lies.
          If turd posts numbers, they are outright lies or cherry-picked such as to be worthless.
          turd lies; it's all he does.
          And no one cares about his erotic fantasies, either.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   4 years ago

            Why do you hate oil rigs, Sevo?

            1. Sevo   4 years ago

              turd lies. It's what turd does. turd is a pathological liar incapable of telling the truth, knowing he's lying, remembering which lies he told even minutes ago, and far too stupid to understand everyone else knows he lies.
              If turd posts numbers, they are outright lies or cherry-picked such as to be worthless.
              turd lies; it's all he does.

    2. Lord of Strazele   4 years ago

      That's good news for 2022. Joe now should try to negotiate a way to get Iranian and Venezuelan oil back on the market. And develop the fuck out of alternative energy to put even more downward pressure on oil.

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        shitlord gives turd competition.

  32. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

    Meanwhile, Biden's Attorney General, Merrick Garland, has no intention of rescinding his memo ordering the FBI to target parents for opposing their local school boards.

    "WASHINGTON—Attorney General Merrick Garland signaled he has no plans to withdraw a memo ordering the FBI to help local leaders address threats against educators, as Republicans stepped up their criticism of it as a heavy-handed effort to silence parents who speak out on topics like mask mandates and how race is addressed in schools.

    Mr. Garland on Wednesday stood behind the Oct. 4 directive during a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee, his second appearance before Congress in less than a week in which Republicans made it the focus of their questioning."

    ----WSJ, October 27, 2021

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/merrick-garland-stands-behind-memo-on-threats-to-educators-11635359305?

    From a libertarian perspective, Garland's defense of his directive to target parents is a disgrace to both the First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment--not to mention federalism--and that's just getting started. You shouldn't need to censor someone to violate the First Amendment. Intimidating them into silence by way of a chilling effect is all that should be necessary, and for something to be unconstitutional by means of the chilling effect, it shouldn't be necessary for the chilling effect to be intentional. If praying in Jesus' name makes non-Christians feel unwelcome at a public school, whether that was your intent is beside the point.

    It's the same way with surveillance and the Fourth Amendment. The Fourth Amendment shouldn't just protect us from being convicted on that basis. The Fourth Amendment should protect us from unreasonable searches (or being under surveillance) without justification--regardless of whether we're actually convicted for violent activity. We'll violate the rights of millions of parents, but don't worry! We'll only prosecute and convict the ones we catch doing something wrong?! That is an outright outrageous violation of our Fourth Amendment rights.

    Meanwhile, the Republican senators who were grilling Garland in Congress, yesterday, threw a letter in his face. It was from the U.S. attorney's office in Montana to local law enforcement. The letter told local law enforcement that the Feds want to go after parents on federal charges for the crimes of, "conspiracy to deprive a person of civil rights, interstate extortion threats and cyberstalking" (Ibidem). What does that mean, exactly?

    If you coordinate with other parents to oppose CRT, are you conspiring to deprive a child of civil rights? If you send an email to a school board member threatening to coordinate a campaign against reelecting her because she supported vaccine mandates, are you guilty of interstate extortion and cyberstalking? And like I said, it doesn't really matter if parents aren't convicted in a jury trial. The real question is whether their First and Fourth Amendment rights are being abused.

    Parents aren't put under surveillance by the secret police and/or prosecuted by the federal government for opposing the policies of their local school boards in a free society. If you want to see a place where the federal police coached the local cops about how to do things like spot parents who need to be prosecuted by the federal government for opposing their local school boards, you need to look at the Nazis. What we're seeing by the Biden administration is a total assault on the principles of a free society, and putting Republicans in charge of one of the chambers of Congress (at least) may be the most effective way to resist.

    1. Chumby   4 years ago

      Cue $0.50 trolls in 3, 2, 1….

    2. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

      What AG Garland did was no different than what the Soviets did previously, or what China does presently when discussing ideological opponents.

      Thank God Senator McConnell saw though Garland's bullshit and denied him a seat on SCoTUS.

      1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

        The Chinese and the Soviets didn't do it within a democracy. The issue (neither with the United States nor with the Weimar Republic) wasn't that there wasn't a functioning democracy. Our problem, certainly, isn't that we've never had a democracy and don't have one now. China's and the Soviet's issues might have been addressed by introducing democracy.

        We already had one. What we're dealing with is questions from the Weimar Republic about whether a democracy should be allowed to vote itself out of existence and the means by which progressive types rise within democratic republics to destroy them. William Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and Hannah Ardent's The Origins of Totalitarianism are on point.

        1. Joe Friday   4 years ago

          Indeed Ken, if the feds actually said or did anything you imagine they are doing it would be an outrage, but since it is a total figment of your imagination and you don't know that, I suggest you seek help. Next thing you'll be claiming the 2020 election was stolen.

          1. Sevo   4 years ago

            Asshole Joe, you're a lying pile of lefty shit. Fuck off and die.

          2. Dillinger   4 years ago

            Ken doesn't need to claim it for it to be true.

            1. Joe Friday   4 years ago

              As a logical proposition, that is correct Dillinger, and given Ken's regular problems with the truth, maybe likely. However, it is not true and only fools and those who believe the worst liar and most transparent braggart and a.shole in the world think it is.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

                Just pasting this from Overt's post above, since it nicely refutes Joe's lies here:

                The press release from DOJ specifically said they were creating a task force that would look into prosecuting law-breakers. He knew this because it was pointed out to him several times. But here he is- an alleged libertarian- claiming that there is nothing creepy about the federal DOJ looking into local school board problems. He is transparently trying to excuse his TEAM for deplorable actions, and claiming it is Team Red Spin.

              2. Dillinger   4 years ago

                idk about assholes and braggarts, but I would prefer legitimate elections where I live

                1. sarcasmic   4 years ago

                  How do you know they aren't legitimate? There's been lawsuits and recounts, and audits all over the place. Outside conspiracy circles, no significant irregularities have been found. Not liking the results of an election doesn't make the election illegitimate. I stopped voting because the outcome of the election was the inverse of my ballot. Me not liking the results didn't make the election illegitimate. Though it did convince me that voting is pointless.

                  1. Dillinger   4 years ago

                    >>How do you know they aren't legitimate?

                    I don't, anymore than you. If you want to trust authorities feel free. I think it was a plainly obvious bunch of bullshit. Not like I let it ruin my day or anything I just like to pick at Joe for fun.

                    1. sarcasmic   4 years ago

                      The burden of proof is on the accuser, and so far the accuser has failed. As far as trusting the authorities, what other choice is there? Don't trust the elections and lose all faith in the system? Do you really want the entire country to turn into Portland Oregon?

                    2. Dillinger   4 years ago

                      I am only me. And I'll believe what I believe I'm not much for peer pressure.

                    3. JesseAz   4 years ago

                      Can sarcsmic answer how ones gets proof without an investigation seeing as most of the election boards are saying any election material is non public?

              3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                There is no point in arguing with Joe Friday. It is either a troll or the dumbest dumbfuck in these comments.

                Here he is denying the 1A:

                https://reason.com/2021/09/22/dont-import-vaccine-mandates-for-domestic-travel/?comments=true#comment-9117599

                1. Joe Friday   4 years ago

                  Chuck you simpleton, the first amendment guarantees freedom of religion, it doesn't guarantee the religious, and the religious alone, are exempt from our laws.

                  1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                    LOL! See what I mean. It clearly doesn't understand the 1A or how to use punctuation in a sentence.

            2. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

              "Ken doesn't need to claim it for it to be true."

              Yeah, things are true even if Ken says they aren't. Reality doesn't ask Ken for permission to be real. When reality says one thing, and Ken says another, it's reality that's right.

              But for progressives to use reality against us, they'd need to understand its significance. Showing facts and logic to progressive trolls is like giving a scientific calculator to a chimp.

              What's this thing for, and what does it have to do with my feelings?

              1. Joe Friday   4 years ago

                So when the DOJ says they will look into increases in threats and violence at school board meetings - this fact is not in doubt - Ken thinks parents who disagree with the school board will be cowed into silence, even though Garland specifically said that's not what he was interested in. Really? Gee, probably shouldn't publicize that there any laws or possible punishment lest citizens just stay home in and not participate in our democracy, economy, and social life. Hey, it might be an unending gulag in Ken's head, but Americans can handle the truth.

                1. Chumby   4 years ago

                  You should charge Ken rent for all the living in your head he is doing.
                  If one redefines “threat” to include speaking out in opposition to CRT, gender fluidity and other woke initiatives being taught in public schools by apparatchiks then yeah. Someone making an actual threat or committing an act of violence during a school board meeting or against a school board member is a local law enforcement issue.
                  Robby addresses this:
                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iQlf1S5EGiU

                  1. Sevo   4 years ago

                    Notice that asshole Joe makes vague claims that Ken is lying, without a single specific.
                    Asshole Joe i*IS* a steaming pile of lefty shit is is really worth:
                    Fuck off and die.
                    And nothing more.

          3. sarcasmic   4 years ago

            But the election was stolen. The evidence is right there: Trump didn't win. He was supposed to win, which means the election was stolen. Prove it wasn't. You can't. That means it was. Duh, don't you know anything?

            1. JesseAz   4 years ago

              Nice on sequitur to protect your team.

            2. Overt   4 years ago

              Could you AT LEAST stop trying to derail threads? FFS. There are 60 other threads about the election on any other given day that you can fling poo on.

              This is actually a big deal, Sarc. And it is bad enough dealing with the bots who deny the reality that the DOJ is talking about investigating parents in a school board. To deal with thread derails is even worse.

              1. sarcasmic   4 years ago

                Is it really a big deal? Seems to me that it got nipped in the bud and nothing actually came of it. Meanwhile millions of people still believe the outcome of the election was illegitimate thanks to the former Crybaby in Chief. The breakdown of the electoral system is a bigger deal to me than a failed attempt to harass angry parents.

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                  Apologetics and TDS. Two shitty behaviors that smell worse together.

              2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                To deal with thread derails is even worse.

                Sarc is engaging in the pant-shitters veto. Walk into a conversation, shit yourself with a grin on your face, and watch everyone else back away from the OP to avoid the smell and the chance they might get some on them.

                At least SQLFCKR is so crazy that he gets muted. Sarc is more of a SBD sharter.

                1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                  It’s funny when Mormons think they’re clever.

                  1. Sevo   4 years ago

                    asshole flag

                  2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                    So, you agree that I am funny. Thanks, buddy! I knew I would get you to come around. 🙂

                    1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      I could of phrased that better. It makes me laugh AT the stupid Mormon when the stupid Mormon thinks it said something clever.

                    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      Everyone knew what you meant, you mendacious cunt. Please continue to glory in your ignorance.

                2. JesseAz   4 years ago

                  sarcasmic is sqrsly.

          4. JesseAz   4 years ago

            Joe, you are aware that forming a list of possible charges to go after parents with is an action right?

            1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

              Keep a look out for x, y, and z, and let us know when you see them--so we can come after them.

              Meanwhile, the definitions of some of those crimes seem vague, and politically ambitious U.S. Attorney's are known to stretch the law--and try to intimidate people with threats.

              Fuck Preet Bahara!

          5. CE   4 years ago

            "People sometimes forget that the first country the Nazis conquered was their own."

            The time to oppose totalitarianism is before it gets fully implemented.

          6. Cronut   4 years ago

            You're an idiot. The only reason they DIDN'T do anything (yet) is because they got caught and it caused a public shit storm.

            Ken clearly illustrated an instance where the DoJ was *actively planning and strategizing* how to prosecute parents for various, vague, loosely-defined "crimes." The only reason they HAVEN'T yet is because they a) got caught, and b) have lost control of the narrative and can't portray angry parents as right wing terrorists. If they could reasonably get away with marching parents out of meeting in cuffs and then branding them as right wing extremists, they would.

            1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

              The only reason they DIDN'T do anything (yet) is because they got caught and it caused a public shit storm.

              Exactly. Prior to the shit storm the progs' response was "Great! Go get those white supremacist domestic terrorist motherfuckers!" Then after the shit storm: "Wait what? We wuzn't doin' nuthin!"

          7. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

            We'll just ignore the fact that this isn't a federal matter to begin with because we're all friends here.

            If Garland had asked the CIA to investigate threats against Podunk School Board, that would just be a normal, run of the mill investigation to find out of someone was sending mean tweets, nothing to see here.

            1. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

              What is the "this" referring to in your sentence? There is no specific case where the FBI has investigated someone for making violent threats against a school board, but if there were, it could well be a Federal manner, depending on the details of the person who made the threats, the nature of the threat, etc.

        2. rbike   4 years ago

          Joe Friday says this is just fine. Don't believe your lying eyes.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   4 years ago

            I don't think he realizes the "This isn't a problem" point of the left-wing deflection matrix on this issue has already been passed.

    3. Bill Godshall   4 years ago

      Seems like Garland is campaigning for Glenn Youngkin in next week's VA governor's election, as Garland's defense of his memo (instructing FBI to monitor threats and violence against school board members after the NSBA collusion and subsequent retraction) shines a national and statewide spotlight (by the news media and VA voters) to the outrageous actions by Louden County's School Board, whose actions McAuliffe defended.

      1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

        "I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach"

        ----Terry McAuliffe

        This issue is an absolute winner for Republicans--all over the country--if they can be convinced to just pull the damn sword out of the rock.

        Don't make the culture war about abortion. Make free speech and school choice a culture war issue, and they will ruin the progressives.

        In a Republican world, Betsy DeVos's endorsements would be playing the role of kingmaker in races all over the country.

        1. I, Woodchipper   4 years ago

          that and the trans madness. Republicans should be able to walk all over these midterms just pushing school issues and trans madness.

          1. Bill Godshall   4 years ago

            Vaccine mandates for employees (and school students), and mask mandates (especially for children all day long at school) are two other issues that will help the GOP win elections.

        2. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

          "Don't make the culture war about abortion."

          Ain't gonna happen.

    4. sarcasmic   4 years ago

      Democrats are Nazis! They want to put conservatives in ovens!

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        You are totally not a team. And you totally only talk about ideas.

    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

      Mr. Garland on Wednesday stood behind the Oct. 4 directive

      We dodged a planet killing asteroid when Garland was left sitting outside SCOTUS on a public bench.

    6. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

      One of the weird parts for me is the argument from the Left (after they insist CRT is not being taught) is that CRT is just a benevolent and even-handed history lesson. They speak as though nobody was ever taught about slavery before now.

      And the part where any parent who looks at the curriculum has to sign an NDA? Really weird...what's secret about a history lesson?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

        any parent who looks at the curriculum has to sign an NDA? Really weird

        You can see what we are teaching your kids, but, if we show you, you can't tell anyone? That reeks of violation of the 1A. Public information is public.

    7. Minadin   4 years ago

      https://babylonbee.com/news/ag-garland-issues-memo-calling-for-investigation-of-terrorist-senators-who-harassed-and-intimidated-him-at-hearing

  33. Dillinger   4 years ago

    at least you're finally *dis*agreeing with National Review.

  34. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

    Hannah Ardent's The Origins of Totalitarianism

    Yes!

  35. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

    WTF is up with Emotes! comment feature?!

  36. damikesc   4 years ago

    "• America is in desperate need of more workers, but federal officials wasted at least 400,000 visa slots during the fiscal year that ended in September."

    Gotta keep those wages low. Because libertarians love and respect "the market" unless it benefits the proles instead of their benefactors. Then it's fuck the market and let's thoroughly distort the labor market.

  37. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

    America is in desperate need of more workers

    Please. We have so many workers that we're actually firing some for not getting a government-mandated flu shot.

  38. CE   4 years ago

    America is in desperate need of more workers, but federal officials wasted at least 400,000 visa slots during the fiscal year that ended in September want to fire anyone who won't get a shot to protect themselves from a disease that poses very little risk to healthy people of working age.

  39. CE   4 years ago

    A paid leave proposal, expensive though it may be, is politically popular...

    Seems sort of like federal unemployment insurance. So why not jack up the FICA withholding rate to cover it, and then ask how politically popular it is?

    1. D-Pizzle   4 years ago

      Breadth of support vs. depth of support.

  40. Bill Godshall   4 years ago

    • Next week's gubernatorial election in Virginia could provide a post-Trump road map for the GOP.

    This cited op/ed is by Never Trumper Rich Lowry who has been urging the GOP to dump Trump since 2015.

    While Younkin has been wise to distance himself from Trump during his campaign (to appeal to more moderates, independents and suburban women), if Youngkin wins next week, Trump's leadership of the GOP will remain and likely grow stronger.

  41. creech   4 years ago

    Brandon was just on tv again whining about "fair share" (never defined, so I assume it just means "more") and "profitable" corporations that didn't pay taxes. Could he be troubled to explain why a "profitable" corporation doesn't pay taxes? Say so if he wants to eliminate tax loss carryforwards. Did they take advantage of favorable tax credits, such as depreciation or depletion allowances, that Brandon and his congressional pals put in place? Say so if you've decided those credits were unwise or supportive of crony capitalism. Rather than explaining, all Brandon and friends want to do is generate envy against employers and folks more well off than you.

    1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   4 years ago

      Yeah, it's funny how a former Senator seems to have no idea how the tax code came to be the way it is.

      1. CE   4 years ago

        To be fair, he's probably forgotten by now.

    2. Eeyore   4 years ago

      Politicians should spend thier fair share of prison time.

    3. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      SleepyJoe is mentally ill.

    4. damikesc   4 years ago

      Umm, didn't Joe underpay taxes on his employees?

  42. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    Democrats are trying to cram all their big ideas into a single piece of legislation, rather than trying to find agreement for individual items and moving them one at a time.

    lol

    1. Dillinger   4 years ago

      to be fair Eric may have missed the last 60 years of Congress.

  43. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    • Another In-N-Out burger joint was shut down in California for being "an immediate health hazard to the public" because the location won't check customers' vaccine status before serving them.

    San Francisco is an immediate health hazard to the public.

  44. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    Reason: Fix the refresh URL on your page after a comment is posted. It's annoying.

    1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

      I thought maybe I was the only one!

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        I tried rebooting the computer, figuring there was some glitch at this end.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

          No, they're adding a #comment tag at the end of the auto-refresh after posting (and who knows, maybe that was always there, I never paid much attention) but with that there, the comments won't expand or refresh until you (or at least how I'm doing it) remove the #comment tag at the end of the URL and manually refresh.

          1. JesseAz   4 years ago

            Add '?comments=true' Before the #comment-1234

            I keep it on cut/paste and just add it on the refresh.

            1. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

              Let me try it.

            2. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

              It worked!

  45. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    In other news there are more covid deaths and well over twice the 7-day average deaths for Oct 27th this year than the same day last year, and that's with considerable vaccine penetration and vaccine mandates vs zero vaccine penetration.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   4 years ago

      Guess we need to mandate a 4th dose

  46. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    • America is in desperate need of more workers, but federal officials wasted at least 400,000 visa slots during the fiscal year that ended in September.

    Perhaps we might stop paying our workers to stay home, or making it illegal for them to return to work.

    Reason, you're becoming a caricature of yourself on this issue.

    1. Mike Laursen   4 years ago

      "Perhaps we might stop paying our workers to stay home, or making it illegal for them to return to work."

      Almost these exact same words were uttered by Reason staff on the Reason Roundtable podcast, but, hey, what counts is that you can signal to your fellow right-wingers. What Reason actually says on any topic, who cares.

  47. Jerry B.   4 years ago

    Maybe In-n-Out Burger employees should campaign to join a police union, since they’re being asked to enforce the law.

  48. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

    I found out a friend died of COVID pneumonia on Tuesday. He was in great physical shape, a police officer in Beaverton, OR, and he was vaccinated.

    His death is of course anecdotal, but there is a great big lie about the efficacy of these vaccines that will come to light in the years ahead. This pandemic and its 'final solution' have been a ruse to undermine liberties we will never get back.

    Trump is a dumbass. He proved to be incompetent at rooting out corruption in the federal government his first 3 years and then stood by dumbfounded as the CDC lied and justified lockdowns and mandates. His messaging was terrible and his verbal diarrhea was capitalized upon by media sycophants sworn to the Democrat party. He clearly had no control over the DoJ. Cuomo should have been behind bars instead of publishing books about his leadership.

    And yet, the Democrats in control now are so much worse. They facilitate every lie and obfuscate every truth about COVID.

    We seem to know less today the we did 18 months ago about COVID. Where are the therapeutic treatments? The Spanish flu pandemic was 3 times as deadly as COVID, but very few people die of it now, not because of a vaccine, but because the symptoms are easily mitigated. They cut every corner for these shitty vaccines that will now be forced on kids, but healthy vaccinated people are dying from pneumonia.

    Anyone who believes the federal government is doing anything for the 'public good' is a fucking idiot. It is a kaiju that consumes money and blood and shits out Chinese cargo containers.

    1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

      Sorry to hear about your friend, Chuck.

    2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

      Was he LDS?

      So you’re calling the vaccine “the Final solution?” Well your church lies about the Holocaust, so I guess trivializing it isn’t a big deal.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

        He was like me, he married into the church. One of the reasons we got along pretty well. His son is currently on a mission and has now lost his father and his grandfather in the last 6 weeks.

        If you want to tarnish the character of my friend, please feel free. Would you like me to get the address of the funeral home so you can go piss on his body? He will be interred out of state, so it would require a road trip to dance on his grave. I can also let you know if his grieving son comes home so that you can troll PDX with signage about the particular evil that missionaries embody.

        Just an observation, but you are easily the most horrible human being I have ever encountered and that includes a weirdo who fancies to refer to himself as Sarah Palin's Buttplug. If it is any consolation, I go to bed at night wit a big smile, secure in the knowledge that my mere existence fills you as much misery as when you were little and your mom smacked you on the peepee with a ruler for playing with yourself. You shouldn't blame those church girls who were so pretty that you couldn't resist touching your self. It was your mom that made you this way.

        1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

          My condolences on losing your friend.

          Mormons shouldn’t be allowed to be cops, but I’m sorry.

          1. Sevo   4 years ago

            assholes get flagged

        2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

          It actually makes me feel good when stupid bigots hate me, so thank you!

          1. Sevo   4 years ago

            One more asshole flag.

          2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

            Only a psychopath would hate a toddler that shits through his diaper and trails it all over the living room carpet. It is horrible, but a normal reaction is to recoil in disgust, not hate.

            And I am sure your mommy didn't hate you, buddy. If it is any consolation, I also feel tremendous pity for you.

            1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

              Why would you pity me?

              You chose to join an evil church. I pity the poor bastards born into it and brainwashed from birth.

              I’m not perfect, but I try to be a good person. That’s why I hate Mormons. They are overwhelmingly evil people.

              1. Sevo   4 years ago

                flag for the asshole

              2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                I’m not perfect, but I try to be a good person.

                I hope you don't lie to yourself as well. All that bile and rage will never convince any girl to love you. Not even the ex-churchgoers.

                1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                  I know I’m a good person.

                  I know you think you’re right because “heavenly father” is on your side. A lot of harm has been caused by Mormons because they thought their perv god was on their side.

                  Heavenly Father isn’t real. Your faith has been discredited.

                  I hope you see one day all the harm your church and your members have caused.

                  That’s what has always infuriated me. You can’t reason with people who think god is on their side. I

                  1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                    You can’t reason with people who think god is on their side.

                    You are confusing religious people with dumb people. Intelligent people, religious or not, know that that is not the way God or nature or the universe or whatever goofy shit you believe actually works. Intelligent people are easily reasoned with.

                    Good people don't persecute others. Like your lefty boos, if you were a good person you would understand that.

                    1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      Mormons are stupid people. You have to be to believe the nonsense you believe.

                      Joseph Smith was a PROVEN con man.

                    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      Good people don't persecute others. Try to focus for a nanosecond on that.

                    3. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      Your church persecuted anyone who doesn’t fit into its narrow, warped worldview.

                      I’m so happy your pig friend is burning in hell. It’s also great his cunt wife’s Mormon dad died too!

                2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                  I’ll try to be fair. Maybe 1 out of every 100 Mormons I encountered wasn’t bad. I actually have met a few that said to me “I understand why you hate Mormons so much” after I told them my experience. They said that most I encountered didn’t listen to my concerns because they were following “Heavenly father’s plan” so I had to be in the wrong.

                  1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                    Oh, I understand why you hate so much. You are a close-minded and petty little man who was either too cowardly or too stupid to stand up for himself when you were younger and you have despised yourself ever since.

                    It certainly isn't because you had any serious concerns that you shared with real intent to give consideration to someone's personal testimony. Those you encountered dismissed you for the same reason I do, because it is obvious you are not interested in honest discourse.

                    Want an example?

                    Heavenly Father isn’t real. Your faith has been discredited.

                    Why would anyone ever take you seriously? You bleat like Orwell's sheep, "Four legs good, two legs baaad!" You are a waste of time.

                    1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      You’re so arrogant like all Mormons.

                      Rot in hell you evil fuck.

                      BTW I only became so vicious after I’d exhausted every reasonable attempt to talk some sense into the stupid fucks.

                    2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      I actually was well liked the first year or so I lived there.

                    3. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      And if you don’t want your faith mocked for being a bunch of discredited BS then don’t believe a bunch of discredited BS and try to force it on others.

                      Pretty fucking simple you god damn moron.

                    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      I actually was well liked the first year or so I lived there.

                      So you admit you did something horrible that changed peoples' minds. Admitting it is the first step. You'll get there. Just, please, share it with your therapist. The comments at Reason are not a good place to try work out your deep seated issues.

                      Not everyone is as understanding as I am. I think Joe Friday is an FBI mole.

                    5. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      It gets hard faking being nice to a bunch of stupid scumbags, so yeah eventually I let those demons know how evil and stupid they were.

                      Like you!

                    6. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      I let those demons know how evil and stupid they were.

                      If I had to guess, you showed your junk to a girl who was not the least bit interested, didn't you. Your expression of such exaggerated revulsion demonstrates you were absolutely humiliated, whatever it was.

                    7. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      Mormon women are stupid cunts, so that never happened.

                    8. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      Most Mormon women are dumb bimbos anyway. Your cunt wife probably is and your dead pig friend’s cunt wife probably is.

                    9. Chumby   4 years ago

                      Portland, Oregon’s greatest citizen folks.

                    10. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      And he loses his mind...

                      I must have nailed it (unlike KAR).

                    11. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      At least I don’t have a pig friend burning in hell.

                      Excuse me, former pig friend, because he’s dead.

                      Hahaha. Dead Mormons are a true blessing.

                  2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                    Oh, goody, I hit something there. Look at all the pus and goo come flowing out. You will feel better if you express it, buddy!

                    1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      You’re a lost cause like all Mormons.

                    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      I think I will stick with the grifters and pervert worshippers in their magical underwear. They are a lot more fun at parties than you. And those are parties where everyone is sober!

            2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

              I called the Beaverton police and said that the recently deceased Mormon officer needs his cases scrutinized. Any case that involved non-Mormons is suspect because a Mormon will never be fair to a non Mormon.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                I called the Beaverton police

                Oh, how I wish you actually had. He was a very well-liked 24 year veteran. It might get you featured in a Brickbat.

                Latter Day Hater Now Visiting Saints
                A religious bigot in Portland, Ore. SWATted himself by calling Beaverton police to cast dispersions regarding a recently deceased officer.

                1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                  Oh I have no doubt those fascist pigs loved him.

                2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                  I am genuinely concerned that a Latter Day Saint could commit a crime against a non Mormon and the Mormon piggie covering it up.

                  Mormons should not be pigs. Anyone who believes the nonsense y’all believe shouldn’t have power over anyone.

                3. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                  If there was a news item it would be
                  “A Portland man is being hailed as a hero tonight after his suspicions helped uncover a child sex ring in the local Mormon community. Not only was a recently deceased Beaverton officer aware of the crimes, but participated himself. When asked for a comment LDS President Russell Nelson said he was “hurt and heartbroken… that he wasn’t invited into the child sex ring.”

                  1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                    Sorry don’t wanna disrespect your DEAD(haha he’s burning in hell) friend.

                    He disrespected himself by being a fascist pig, marrying a Mormon cunt, and joining an evil church.

                    Hahahaha CHUCKS PIGGIE FRIEND IS DEAD. Too bad he wasn’t shot. He certainly had it coming!

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      Another 12 minutes to come up with that? On a scale from STUPID to EVIL you definitely tip to the former.

                    2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      Thank you! If a stupid Mormon calls someone stupid it means they’re smart.

                    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      If a stupid Mormon calls someone stupid it means they’re smart.

                      If it turns out you are an 8th grader, I actually am going to be embarrassed.

                  2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                    Dude, it would be one thing if that were funny, but it just comes across as pathetic and really mean-spirited. And it took you at least 34 minutes to come up with it? What the fuck is wrong with you?

                    1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      It took a minute to come up with.

                      I have shit to do throughout the day. Like work and being kind to people. I don’t have time to just monitor this page 24/7.

                      I’m glad you thought it was mean spirited. It’s hilarious. Mormons have shitty senses of humor. See Napoleon Dynamite.

                    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      I have shit to do throughout the day. Like work and being kind to people.

                      I can't possibly embarrass you more than you do yourself.

                      And just so you know, people wouldn't call you 'Uncle Rico' if you didn't behave like a pathetic bully just like him.

                    3. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      What makes you think I embarrassed myself?

                    4. Chumby   4 years ago

                      Napoleon Dynamite was funny.

                    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

                      What makes you think I embarrassed myself?

                      The Holy Ghost whispered it to me.

                      Just kidding, it's because I can read. The Holy Ghost couldn't stop laughing.

                    6. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      What’s funny about working and being kind to people?

    3. Chumby   4 years ago

      Chuck, my condolences.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

        Appreciated. His wife lost her father just 6 weeks ago. It is overwhelming to contemplate.

        1. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

          Haha! Dead Mormons are such a blessing!

        2. SaveAllRednecks   4 years ago

          His family had it coming for sending their kid on a mission.

    4. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

      My condolences for your friend, Chuck. Now would not be the time to argle-barge over the efficacy of vaccine or any nonsense from trolls. There's always time and bandwidth for that later. Peace to you and yours..

  49. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

    So, it looks like the die has been cast on the budget reconciliation and infrastructure bills. Biden released a $1.85 trillion "framework" for the budget reconciliation bill, and they're hoping to hold a vote on the infrastructure bill later today--in anticipation of holding a vote on the $1.85 trillion budget reconciliation bill, probably next week.

    There are two outstanding questions:

    1) Will the progressives in the House vote for the infrastructure bill?

    The progressives in the House, repeatedly, for months, have insisted on the Senate passing the $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation bill before they would agree to pass the infrastructure bill. Nancy Pelosi had to cancel the vote on the infrastructure bill three times because the progressives in the House wouldn't support it without the moderate Democrats in the Senate agreeing to pass the budget reconciliation bill. To the best of my knowledge, Pelosi has never brought a bill up for a vote in the House without knowing that she had the votes to pass it. Chances are that if she brings it up for a vote, it will pass.

    I have not seen anything to suggest that the Congressional Progressive Caucus is on board with voting for the infrastructure bill before the budget reconciliation bill passes the Senate, and if Manchin and Sinema were on board with passing the $1.8 trillion budget reconciliation bill without the House progressives passing the infrastructure bill first, they probably would have agreed to hold a vote on the $1.8 trillion budget reconciliation bill in the Senate before the House votes on whether to pass the infrastructure bill. If the infrastructure bill passes the House, however, we should probably expect Manchin and Sinema to pass the $1.8 trillion budget reconciliation bill.

    2) Will the Congressional Progressive Caucus accept the pared down $1.8 trillion budget reconciliation bill?

    This might be like that time Joe Biden unilaterally decided to withdraw on September 11, 2021, instead of May 1, 2021, without consulting the Taliban first. He just assumed they'd roll over for whatever he wanted them to do, but sometimes Joe Biden's assumptions and reality don't see eye to eye. No one knows if the progressives will accept having the biggest socialist and Green New Deal sections of the budget reconciliation bill yanked out of it, but I wouldn't bet on it. Just reading the tea leaves here, but the end of negotiations seem to have coincided with when Biden needed to leave for his global warming conference. Did negotiations end because the progressives are on board, or did they end because Joe Biden needed to go?

    The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.
    The answer is blowin' in the wind.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Ken, you know the majority of that "cut" is taking the extended child tax credit from 10 years to 1 year on the gamble that Congress will continue extending it every year right?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

        the majority of that "cut" is taking the extended child tax credit from 10 years to 1 year

        That will get them through the midterms, so win-win. If 'We the Pimples' imagines that the graft will continue like mana in the desert for years and years, they will, as usual, realize their folly too late.

  50. raspberrydinners   4 years ago

    Can put a man on the moon. Cannot do paid family leave like every other developed (and a lot of underdeveloped) countries.

    #theAmericanDream

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 years ago

      #theAmericanDream

      A vacation paid for by everybody else to celebrate your new little burden on society.

      Your dreams are fucking weird.

    2. Chumby   4 years ago

      Work more. Woke less.

    3. The Encogitationer   4 years ago

      At the expense of the Childfree By Choice, the Childless Without Choice, and parents whose children have grown up and who paid full freight already?

      Fuck Be Unto Joe Biden, Taxpayer-Funded Family Leave, and anybody who supports it!

      1. Emmett Dalton   4 years ago

        Fuck be unto Joe Biden and any idiot that fails to remember "that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men".

        That means not created to wipe your nose, buy your lazy ass another bag of cheese doodles or pay for your fucking streaming service.

  51. matexcel   4 years ago

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