California

Republicans Got What They Deserved in California Recall

Doubling down on stridently conservative messaging in a state where conservatives are a dwindling and fleeing minority doesn't seem like a winning strategy.

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On the eve of California's second-ever gubernatorial recall election, polls showed dire news for those hoping to bounce Gavin Newsom from office and replace him with someone with a more conservative mindset. Despite my issues with the governor, I was far more disappointed with the statements from recall supporters than from the polling data.

Before voting was even finished, Republican "leaders promoted unsubstantiated claims that the race was rigged or compromised by misconduct," AP reported. It noted that leading replacement candidate, Larry Elder, said, "there might very well be shenanigans." And Donald Trump asked, "Does anybody really believe the California Recall Election isn't rigged?"

Apparently, Republicans only trust election results when they emerge as winners. That poses a long-term problem for the health of our democratic system, but—in California, in particular—it poses an existential problem for the GOP. When a party refuses to live in the real world, it's not going to make sensible decisions that help it get back in the political game.

I talked to some conservative activists in the weeks before the vote, and many of them were living in a fantasy world. Some were sure that the polls weren't accurate because of liberal polling bias and the recall really was on track, while others believed the nonsense about fraud. After Newsom scored an impressive 64 percent to 36 percent victory, recall supporters were looking for everyone but themselves to blame.

Let's see, a Democratic governor was victorious in a strongly Democratic state by margins that approximate the usual Democrat v. Republican breakdown, and the best people can do is claim voting irregularities. Sorry, but recall advocates ran one of the worst campaigns in memory. They failed to make a compelling case to non-Republicans.

I covered the 2003 recall of Gov. Gray Davis, whose incompetence in the face of rolling electricity blackouts and budget deficits led to widespread voter frustration. The electorate was more Republican 18 years ago than it is today but still was heavily Democratic. I'd argue that the list of Festivus-like grievances against Davis pales in comparison to the ones against Newsom.

The current governor has restricted charter schools, which are an educational bright spot. Violent crime is rising, homelessness is spreading civic disorder, and wildlands are on fire. There's the Employment Development Department scandal and much to critique in Newsom's handling of COVID-19. The budget is in great shape (if we ignore the state's unfunded liabilities), but there are myriad reasons for disgruntlement.

Yet in 2003, recall supporters built a broad-based coalition that focused on the key issues that upset Californians of all political persuasions. They recruited a candidate, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who not only was a popular celebrity—but who carefully pitched a moderate, bipartisan, and generally optimistic governmental reform message.

This time around, recall advocates made it perilously easy for Democrats to turn this into a partisan "Republican recall" race. I like Larry Elder and have admired his past years of libertarian-oriented punditry, but he and other GOP replacement candidates campaigned as if they were appealing to a mostly conservative electorate.

In my rural area, pro-Trump signs and those obnoxious blue-stripe flag desecrations accompanied virtually every recall-signature table. Doubling down on stridently conservative messaging in a state where conservatives are a dwindling and fleeing minority (and having insufficient resources to run compelling ads), doesn't seem like a winning strategy. Maybe that's just me.

The "yes" vote on the recall question received roughly the same percentage as Republicans routinely receive in statewide races. How surprising. Conservatives have long advocated for a take-no-prisoners campaign, but they couldn't even reach John Cox's dismal numbers. He lost to Newsom in 2018 by 24 percentage points, which is a nail-biter compared to Tuesday's showing.

I've often criticized the largely unprincipled state GOP, but at least the establishment makes an attempt to woo unaffiliated and Democratic voters. The problem started with the recall petition. Instead of focusing on broad concerns, it chided Newsom for favoring "foreign nationals, in our country illegally," as if immigrants rather than homegrown politicians are the problem.

Recallers should have recruited the right candidate before they started collecting signatures. The campaign initially put pressure on Newsom to moderate some of his coronavirus restrictions, but as the race heated up and the GOP ran right, it pushed Newsom further to the left to shore up his base. The downside always was obvious. If the recall didn't succeed, it would leave Newsom and the supermajority Democrats stronger than ever.

"Democrats have been sharpening their attacks on Republicans over the pandemic, former president Donald Trump and other polarizing topics, and now, emboldened by victory in California's recall election, party leaders are seeking to further escalate hostilities ahead of the midterm elections," The Washington Post concluded. It's hard to disagree.

Go ahead and blame voting issues. As the midterms approach, I'm sure that will be a winner.

This column was first published in The Orange County Register.

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  1. Will love to hear Ken’s and Sevo’s takes on this.

    1. Sevo’s take: Die leftist scum! Die! I kill you! Die!

      Ken’s take: Democrats bad. Republicans good. Bad. Good. See? Bad. Good.

      1. Sarcasmics take: Leave democrats alone!

        1. Sarcasmic is a sockpuppet of one of the fugazi libertarian Reason staffers, one of many in these comment threads.

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      2. You leave my friend Sevo alone and stop teasing her! She is still certain that there was banboo and ink made from the blood of slaughtered pandas on those ballots!

        1. You and the infantile sarc kindly fuck off and die, a slow painful death, exactly as both of you assholes deserve.

        2. Sevo is a she?

          I thought it was the man who was the inspiration for Abe Simpson.

          “I’d shake a stick at you but I left it at home! Aaauughh!”

          1. Sarc isn’t a turd? Who’d a thunk it?
            Stuff your head up your ass, infantile piece of shit.

            1. “He stole my peanut butter! It was creamy but I like crunchy! Aaauuuggghh!”

              *shakes a stick*

              “Aaaaauuugghh!”

              1. Sarc isn’t a turd? Who’d a thunk it?
                Stuff your head up your ass, infantile piece of shit.

                1. “I dropped my stick! But I can’t bend over to get it! What am I going to wave around? Auuugghhh!”

                  1. Sarc isn’t a turd? Who’d a thunk it?
                    Stuff your head up your ass, infantile piece of shit.

                    1. Reminder that sarcasmic is only here to shitpost and troll:

                      sarcasmic
                      August.12.2021 at 4:45 pm
                      I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out, while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is my circus.

                      sarcasmic
                      September.10.2021 at 12:14 pm
                      I like to stir shit up. So what.

      3. Have you checked Glibs today to make sure you’ve not been banned?

      4. The black and white hats tipped me off, so I didn’t bother to read any further.

      5. Sarc, you’re on of the worst partisans here. Seriously, fuck you.

    2. Sevo punches down only. He finds a commenter who’s an obvious doofus, and calls him an obvious doofus.

      Ken will either skip this article, have some pretty spot-on analysis, or introduce something interesting, important, and off-topic that the format of HyR isn’t really set up for but in lieu of Libernet-d will have to serve as a discussion forum.

  2. Seems that californians got what they deserve, at least those who vote for leftist BS.

    1. Sad to say, the other main choice these days is trumpanzees gone apeshit, and the demise of democracy! Shit sandwiches “A” v/s “B”! Mobocracy apeshit v/s donkeyshit!

      Right-wing wrong-nuts, please listen,
      You don’t know, what you’re missin’!
      Soaking in your Trump-delusions land,
      Playing with your Trump-delusions gland,
      Did yer Mamma ever tell you,
      Smarter people can smell you,
      And your lies, which betray you,
      You reveal all to those who know,
      Self-deluded ones, themselves, they blow!

      1. Where do you get the time to come up with all of this? Serious question are you retired, jobless, or in academia 😛 ?

        1. I’m retired these days. I used to “play” here even before I retired… Have been posting (here only) for a long time. I save my good stuff and re-run them from time to time, even after years have passed. My detractors (like MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer for example) call it “copypasta”, of course.

          MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer is a Jesus-Killer, not because she’s Jewish… I’m not anti-Semitic… But because of details listed here…
          http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/
          and a tad here too…
          http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/

          1. I save my good stuff and re-run them from time to time

            This is your good stuff?

            1. Hey faggotty faggot homo!
              Poopity poopy poop head!
              Nanny nanny boo boo!
              Is there an adult in the room?

              1. This is his good stuff, Fats of Fury.

            2. All his stuff is fucking awful. He really should kill himself.

              1. “Patriotic” Last Refuge of Scoundrels = = NEW Sock of OLD Sexless Stranger-Strangler!!!

                Sexless Stranger-Strangler, drinking Sexless Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…

                He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
                Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
                Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
                Has no thoughts that help the people,
                He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
                On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
                Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
                Kool-Aid man, please listen,
                You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
                Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
                The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!

                A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
                https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/

                Hey Sexless Stranger-Strangler …
                If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
                Who would feed you? Who’s tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
                You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!

      2. If you think Trump was running in an election against Newsom you let way too much donkeyshit into your brain.

        Elder (in an interview by the Sacramento Bee): ~”Biden’s election was free and fair!”

        All the trumpanzees going apeshit say things like that, right?

        The Dems calling Elder the face of white racism have nothing on you calling him a chimp, btw.

        1. From the article, READ it! Excerpt below says it all!

          In the old days, he who got the most votes, won (ignoring the perverse Electoral College). Under Trumpism, he who whines and cries, and makes up lies, the best, wins!

          OK, the excerpt now…

          Before voting was even finished, Republican “leaders promoted unsubstantiated claims that the race was rigged or compromised by misconduct,” AP reported. It noted that leading replacement candidate, Larry Elder, said, “there might very well be shenanigans.” And Donald Trump asked, “Does anybody really believe the California Recall Election isn’t rigged?”

          Apparently, Republicans only trust election results when they emerge as winners.

          1. three spastic asshole flags!

          2. The polls were at 48-52% against. It ended up 35-65% against. Pennsylvania would be proud.

            1. Properly fortified. The correct results were ensured.

    2. ROFL. If you say Republicans got what they deserved from the recall effort, I won’t argue with that. What’s hilarious is that Newsom voters of whatever political label are now gonna get some more of what they deserve, good and hard. Nothing is too good for Californians, though. I wish them and the Princeling all the best including a couple of significant tax raises, another couple of hundred thousand “migrants” yearning to breathe free and reaching for their welfare check, a double mask mandate for peons, incarceration for vax-resisters, electric brown-outs that don’t last “too long”, Section 8 housing forced into single-family dwelling suburbs (that are much too white and crime free) with a “unit” on each block, and that the nearest forest fire will magically stop 10 yards from their front door.

      1. We don’t get brown-outs. We get electricity shutoffs. Not the same thing. (Well, we didn’t get them during the recall election. Even the Dixie fire couldn’t get Newsom to restart those, lest those of little brain be reminded of them. Elder helped. No mention of the shutoffs could be found on his website, None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. I looked. Then I voted for the Cuban guy,)

      2. And it’s hilarious greenhut brags about the states budget, which is only in good shape because of their billions in pandemic bailouts.

        Fuck California. And enjoy your shitty existence there greenhut.

    3. Seems they’re happy enough with it. Issues sure but they’re the world’s 5th biggest economy.

      I guess Alabama and MS get what they vote for too? Lagging in every state indicator year after year?

      1. The idea that “the world’s 5th biggest economy” is something to strive for doesn’t survive noticing that you are behind India,

        1. And China. Beacon of freedom globally.

          1. damikesc is our domestic beacon of freedom! We will ALL be “freely” forced (by damikesc) to buy Reason magazines!

            Hey Damiksec, damiskec, and damikesc, and ALL of your other socks…
            How is your totalitarian scheme to FORCE people to buy Reason magazines coming along?

            Free speech (freedom from “Cancel Culture”) comes from Facebook, Twitter, Tik-Tok, and Google, right? THAT is why we need to pass laws to prohibit these DANGEROUS companies (which, ugh!, the BASTARDS, put profits above people!)!!! We must pass new laws to retract “Section 230” and FORCE the evil corporations to provide us all (EXCEPT for my political enemies, of course!) with a “UBIFS”, a Universal Basic Income of Free Speech!

            So leftist “false flag” commenters will inundate Reason-dot-com with shitloads of PROTECTED racist comments, and then pissed-off readers and advertisers and buyers (of Reason magazine) will all BOYCOTT Reason! And right-wing idiots like Damikesc will then FORCE people to support Reason, so as to nullify the attempts at boycotts! THAT is your ultimate authoritarian “fix” here!!!

            “Now, to “protect” Reason from this meddling here, are we going to REQUIRE readers and advertisers to support Reason, to protect Reason from boycotts?”
            Yup. Basically. Sounds rough. (Quote damikesc)

            (Etc.)

            See https://reason.com/2020/06/24/the-new-censors/#comment-8316852

            1. Is that more of your good stuff?

              1. This is a gem of the damnedest dumbness of damikesc! Like MANY “perfect in their own minds” asshole authoritarians around here, he will NEVER take back ANY of the stupidest and most evil things that he has written! I have more of those on file… I deploy them to warn other readers to NOT bother to try and reason with the most utterly unreasonable of the nit-wit twits here!

                1. You know, Gandydancer and damikesc had a damned good point, you withered retard, which is why you decided to shitpost as a distraction.
                  Didn’t you.

                  1. damikesc the authoritarian wants to FORCE us all to buy magazines!

                    MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer agrees with (supports) damikesc the authoritarian!

                    So says MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer!
                    From http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/
                    “Our human brains today are evolutionary hodge-podges of layer stacked upon layer. Fish brain, then amphibian brain, reptile brain, monkey brain, ape brain, and hunter-gatherer brain. My-tribe-right, your-tribe-is-lesser (or worse) belongs to hunter-gatherer brain. Prophets and seers, seekers and teachers, throughout the years, have criticized their tribes for this. “This ain’t right”, they say! They have called us forwards into the next stage of evolution! And they (at the extremes) have been killed for it! Now again, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ for details, but this “kill-the-prophets” thing is likely programmed (instinctively or emotionally) into the hunter-gatherer brain. A polite phrase for it is the “do-gooder derogation” instinct. A more in-your-face term for it might be to call it the Jesus-killer (Mahatma Gandhi-killer, Martin Luther King Jr.-killer, etc.) instinct. There’s very little good news in there for the INDIVIDUAL prophet or teacher. What little good news in this phenomenon is that AFTER we have killed the prophet, THEN we often at least START to listen to what they had to say!”

                    My tribe’s lies leading to violence are GOOD! YOUR tribe’s lies leading to violence are BAD! That describes YOU, MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer! That is why you and some of your fellow troglodytes hate me!

                    Examine your SOUL, MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer! What gains it a MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer, to win the world, and ALL of the echo chambers, if MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer loses her SOUL?

                    1. See, more unfunny shitposting garbage.

                      Listen you old brain clot, you’re not fucking funny. You’re not witty, or clever, or prescient. You come across like a fucked-up nine-year old, which is pretty damn pathetic for someone who claims to be a retiree.

                      How about you give the whole retarded-troll schtick the heave-ho, and argue your points like a fucking human being for a change?

                    2. Hey MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer!

                      You resent the hell out of the fact that many other people are flat-out, better, more honest people than you are, right? More “live and let live”, and WAAAY less authoritarian?
                      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-love-and-war/201706/why-some-people-resent-do-gooders
                      From the conclusion to the above…
                      These findings suggest that we don’t need to downplay personal triumphs to avoid negative social consequences, as long as we make it clear that we don’t look down on others as a result.

                      SQRLSY back here now… So, I do NOT want you to feel BAD about YOU being an authoritarian asshole, and me NOT being one! PLEASE feel GOOD about you being an authoritarian asshole! You do NOT need to push me (or other REAL lovers of personal liberty) down, so that you can feel better about being an asshole! EVERYONE ADORES you for being that authoritarian asshole that you are, because, well, because you are YOU! FEEL that self-esteem, now!

                    3. You’re so intimidated by posters here it’s comical lol.

      2. “Seems they’re happy enough with it. Issues sure but they’re the world’s 5th biggest economy.”

        Steaming piles of lefty shit are thrilled that D assholes haven’t managed to kill a strong economy, regardless of their efforts to do so.

      3. Cool story bro. Do you really believe the bullshit you shovel?

  3. Steven Greenhut is a racist that supports white women in gorilla masks throwing eggs at black Republicans.

    1. Hey y’all… R Mac is a bot! The bots really ARE out there!

      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-25738-6
      “Neutral bots probe political bias on social media”

      “We find that the political alignment of the initial friend has a major impact on the popularity, social network structure, exposure to bots and low-credibility sources, and political alignment manifested in the actions of each drifter. However, we find no evidence that these outcomes can be attributed to platform bias. “ … Emphasis on the last part!

      Also, right-wingers are FAR more likely to use low-credibility sources than the left! Even after EXCLUDING Breitbart News!

      1. So, you’re a staffer at PolitiFact, right?

        Low IQ, ignorant, no self-awareness… that’s you!

        And then there’s this from you: “Sad to say, the other main choice these days is trumpanzees gone apeshit.” Gorilla Mask is one of your pals?

        1. You resent the hell out of the fact that many other people are flat-out, better, more honest people than you are, right? More “live and let live”, and WAAAY less authoritarian?
          https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-love-and-war/201706/why-some-people-resent-do-gooders
          From the conclusion to the above…
          These findings suggest that we don’t need to downplay personal triumphs to avoid negative social consequences, as long as we make it clear that we don’t look down on others as a result.

          SQRLSY back here now… So, I do NOT want you to feel BAD about YOU being an authoritarian asshole, and me NOT being one! PLEASE feel GOOD about you being an authoritarian asshole! You do NOT need to push me (or other REAL lovers of personal liberty) down, so that you can feel better about being an asshole! EVERYONE ADORES you for being that authoritarian asshole that you are, because, well, because you are YOU! FEEL that self-esteem, now!

          1. Never realized you’re racist too.

          2. Did your keyboard change into a Ouija board? Has Hihn come BACK to manipulate YOUR SHIFT key? Is this some more of your best stuff?

            1. Read and heed…

              M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
              https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
              People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.

              1. I wish you had read my book. Then you would have realized I was talking about people like you.

                You’re a person who has become so much a part of the Big Lie that you’ve made it your truth. You’re a deceitful, wicked person, Melvin.

                1. Big Lie?

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/republicans-stand-for-nothing-january-6-commission/619036/
                  The GOP Now Stands for Nothing
                  A party that doesn’t believe in anything ends up believing only in its right to rule.

                  https://www.salon.com/2021/06/09/no-trumps-not-delusional–its-actually-much-worse-than-that/
                  No, Trump’s not delusional — it’s actually much worse than that
                  Trump’s Big Lie about the election and fantasies of “reinstatement” aren’t delusional. They’re devious strategies

                  1. Posting Salon would be like some 4channer posting the craziest of Alex Jones’ rants… actually scratch that. They’re far worse. The lefty version of Stormfront.

                    Everything they print is a lie. Why would even a deluded shitposting troll like you consider them an acceptable source?

                2. Actual FACTS are TOTALLY optional, to right-wing nut-jobs, in right-wing echo chambers, aren’t they, dictatorshit-luster? Whatever the collective hive-herd of fascist sheeple says it true, automatically becomes true? If the BIG LIES are told often enough, they become true, right?

                  Has this idea ever been tried before? What were the results? Can you make up some “historical facts” for us now, to make YOU look good?

                  https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/07/12/maga-cultist-admits-lying-it-doesnt-have-to-be-true-it-just-has-to-go-viral/

                3. https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
                  Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?

                  The above is mostly strictly factual, with very little editorializing. When I post it, the FACTS never get refuted… I only get called names. But what do you expect from morally, ethically, spiritually, and intellectually bankrupt Trumpturds?

                  Totalitarians want to turn GOP into GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit).

        2. No, he’s a patient at an insane asylum. Confined involuntarily due to severe mental retardation, and multiple personality disorders. Including suffering from a persistent dissociative state.

          I suggest euthanasia.

      2. So…… Rmac is wrong that a white woman in a gorilla mask threw eggs at a black republican? Did he get that from a “low credibility source”?

        Lol. Ok, buddy. If this is an example of your “good stuff”……. Wow.

    2. “women in gorilla masks”

      That’s kinda hot.

      1. R Mac is into furry kinks! https://furscience.com/research-findings/sex-relationships-pornography/5-10-fetishes-kinks-philias/

        (Bots can be kinky furries, yes. I’m not sure how, but yes, they can!)

        1. three more spastic asshole flags!

        2. Is that why you’re coming on to him? Do you want him to shave your back?

          1. I’m soooo sorry that your Great Whitish-Orangish Pumpkin-Father has been CHEATED out of His Office by evil Demoncrats! I suggest that you might be able to retreat to your safe space… I hear they have laid in a large supply of Teddy Bears. Maybe one of the Teddy Bears will agree to lay with you, and snuggle your wuggle for a while! There, there!

            In a mere few more years, as you are still jonesing for Great White Father, I bet you could persuade Alex Jones to be your Next Savior! Slogan: Jonesing for Jones!

            1. More of your good stuff? Are you saving your best for last? (hint) Your obituary?

  4. And in Newsom, the Cal8fornis electorate gets that it deserves, good and hard.

  5. Actually, the population is less progressive than their votes for elected officials would make it seem. Democrats get all the money and media support so get elected, but progressive state propositions are regularly voted down, even those massively supported by the Democrat party.
    Some propositions pass, but mostly those that seem ‘nice’ and mostly harmless. One of those passed a few years ago will kick in in January. The state now has free-range chickens, but will only allow a sort of free-range pork next year. That pork is supplied by about 4% of the US producers and California eats about 17% of the pork sold in 2021. Not only will this supply/demand tsunami kick in and the price skyrocket, but there is no way to meet demand at any price. No more carnitas, char shu, or bacon.
    Shit will hit the fan.

    1. And in the rest of the country, pork prices will drop. More farm fresh local bacon for the rest of us, since we won’t be shipping it to California.

      1. I hope so but producers wont mind raising prices for everyone. They can hide it in the inflation.

      2. California should become the first Vegan state. It’s a perfect fit as they can then tell you how much better it’s done in California AND they’re Vegans.

    2. Shows what happens when a single party controls a state, the government shifts to the most extreme end of that party, even when its not representative of the people

      1. Exactly. ALWAYS vote against the single party.

    3. No more (pork) adobo either. Double plus ungood.

    4. Remember when the black people in California voted against prop 8 (legal gay marriage) at a 98%-2% (more black californians voted against gay marriage than for Obama) margin, and white people voted for it at a 60%-40% margin, and the black peoples vote struck the law down. Only to have the states Supreme Court overrule their votes a few years later?

      They can vote down the leftist policies all they want, but they’ll be implemented by force eventually.

  6. It is a moment of dissonance to see a Reason writer talk disparagingly of flag desecration until it registers that it is a flag showing support of police officers.

  7. Because sainted Democrats would never lie or cheat to stay in power and of course their toadies in the press like you would never dream of covering anything that would make their masters look bad.

    I’m sure it’s normal in your world for people to have hundreds of ballots to turn in or for Republicans around the state to have been marked as already voted prior to polls opening…perfectly legit with not a whiff of corruption there. Sorry Steven you’ll have to try harder for your marxist masters if you want to sell that crap.

    1. Get help man. Serious delusions.

      1. Fuck off and die, slimy piece of lefty shit.

      2. Tony is mad.

  8. Why doesn’t California want a Bible-beating Aborto-Freak as Governor? That is the political standard here in the Grease Belt.

    1. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological liar, but entirely too stupid to understand that and to realize everyone else knows he’s full of shit.
      turd lies; that’s what turd does.

    2. Funny how the hicklib pederast has been marinating in that Grease Belt for years.

    3. Aborto-Freak

      I often ask Buttplug if his Aborto-Freaks are the ones who want to kill babies or the ones who don’t, but he never answers.

    4. You’re a racist if you oppose Elder, per democrat doctrine.

  9. “Republicans lost because they are not insane left wing zealots!”

    Great take, Reason.

    Libertarianism is just a leftist joke.

    1. Nah, the recall was DOA because the GOP threw up the likes of Elder. When he had his 5 minutes of fame for being the leading candidate to replace Newsom the ad I saw from him was about some (D) tax increase that I’d never heard of and didn’t give a damn about. And he nattered on about the Great Society and the Welfare State…. zzzzzz. None of that was going to get Newsom recalled. California isn’t going to turn (R) anytime soon. But lots of (D) voters have been hurt by the COVUID Panic. That’s where Elder could have tried to get votes to recall Newsom. Instead he chose to campaign to be the top crab in the what turned out to be irrelevant bucket.

      1. “Nah, the recall was DOA because the GOP threw up the likes of Elder. ”

        The GOP specifically did NOT throw up Elder.

        Pretty much all the “Issues” briefs on his site talk about how the COVID response exacerbated schooling problems, economic opportunity and the state budget. Perhaps you didn’t see a lot, but every ad I saw from him (and they were heavily outnumbered by the opposition) was calling out how the Elite were inflicting mass suffering on the population while they partied.

        The problem is that the majority of Californians ACTUALLY WANTED LOCK DOWNS. Look at the polls. Yes, there were thousands of californians that were pissed off by the hypocrisy, but while that is enough to initiate a recall, it isn’t enough to win it.

        1. Look at the polls? You mean the ones taken from in person voters on the special election day after the massive Democrat get out the vote campaign?

          I got so many text message spams to “Stop the republican recall” that I took to reporting them to the FCC. Every Democrat in the nation with a high profile was campaigning here to get them out, and the turn out was very high. So those polls suffer from selection bias.

          Some people here are pro restriction. But, no, the majority do NOT want lockdowns.

          The reason so many didn’t turn is because the GOP does just about zero campaigning, and gives zero support to locals. There’s no honest press for them (before Elder, the press covered Jenner most, hoping to make the biggest joke the front runner), and the Democrats were able to flood the messaging with whatever Elder might have said on the radio that their voters might not like. Democrats here are as brand loyal as cigarette followers.

          1. The reason so many didn’t turn is because the GOP does just about zero campaigning, and gives zero support to locals.

            ^ This was a pretty pathetic effort by the GOP. The party itself decided to stay out of it rather than actually endorse a candidate, which was incredibly stupid and turned the whole thing into a gigantic waste of time.

            Why put all that effort into getting the recall going only to bow out during the actual campaign? Once Elder starting gaining traction, they should have endorsed him and campaigned for him, but it was crickets.

            1. They don’t call the GOP ‘The Stupid Party’ for nothing.

              1. THIS is why MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer lusts after supporting the GOP (Stupid Party) becum the GOD (Grand Old Dictatorshit)! GO, MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer, GO! Go right on to stupid-and-evil GOD-Hell, if’n ye will NOT listen to yer betters, who would LOVE to steer ye better!

                1. You’re a racist squirrel. What’s it like to be in the same category as killrednecks?

                2. And Sqrlsycasmic is an insane old alcoholic troll, that’s here to lie and shitpost and then lie some more, like the degenerate old fascist fuck that he is.

                  Fuck you Sqrlsycasmic, everyone here hates your mendacious, fascist, old ass and you’re too fucking stupid to realize it.

                  1. My tribe’s lies leading to violence are GOOD! YOUR tribe’s lies leading to violence are BAD! That describes YOU, MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Jesus-Killer! That is why you and some of your fellow troglodytes hate me!

                    WHEN are you going to refute the things I write, and the citations that I make, instead of just foaming at the mouth, evil Jesus-killer?

                    1. The democrats are the party of slavery and the confedeeacy. Al gore’s father, along with Bill Clintons mentor filibustered against the civil rights act of 1968. Joe Biden read the eulogy at his close friend, and imperial wizard of the kkks, funeral senator Byrd. Joe Biden helped write the 1994 crime bill and called our black neighborhoods urban jungles or something similarly racist. And democrats control nearly every major metro areas government in this country, which are also the areas with the lowest black employment and education, and highest crime and violence.

                      Riddle me this, how does a city like Pittsburgh that’s been under complete Democrat and labor union control for nearly 100 years, have one of the countries highest rates of black unemployment?

                    2. Democrats aren’t perfect, and I’m not making excuses for them. At least, unlike the GOP lusting to become GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit), they are NOT a REAL AND GENUINE threat to democracy, like the crazies under Trumptatorshit! Name me a time and place that Hillarypanzees did ANYTHING even vaguely approaching what trumpanzees going apeshit did (tried to do) on the 6th of January?

                      https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
                      Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?

                      The above is mostly strictly factual, with very little editorializing. When I post it, the FACTS never get refuted… I only get called names. But what do you expect from morally, ethically, spiritually, and intellectually bankrupt Trumpturds?

                      Totalitarians want to turn GOP into GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit).

                    3. Squirrel doesn’t care that Democrats are racist, because he’s racist too.

              2. The RINOs must be cleansed. Everyone should look into what it takes to get control of their local GOP group. Then people like Romney. McConnell, etc. can be cut out like tumors.

  10. “Stridently conservative”. Let me guess, they support free speech, oppose racism and favor a smaller, less intrusive government?

    1. No, conservatives are Bible-beating Aborto-freaks that make up weird shit like QAnon garbage.

      1. “Sarah Palin’s Buttplug”? And with your fantasies you call OTHER people “freaks”?

      2. QAnon is Buttplug’s favorite bogeyman. I’ve never met a soul who believes in it, but Plug insists they’re everywhere.

      3. You’re the one into qanon, you goddamn child molester.

    2. Since when are what we call conservatives today ever for less intrusive government?

      I mean, TX and FL shining beacons. We’ll regulate a woman’s body 10x over and we’ll also make it certain that cities cannot decide for themselves if they want mask mandates. Nothing “small” about that.

      1. Yes, saying you can wear masks but cannot be forced to is, indeed, the height of sheer tyranny.

      2. “…we’ll also make it certain that cities cannot decide for themselves if they want mask mandates.”

        In your eyes the height of intrusive government is placing roadblocks in the way of intrusive government.

        And you have no idea why anyone would point at you with derision.

      3. “Since when are what we call conservatives today ever for less intrusive government?”

        Hey, pile of lefty shit, tell us about mask mandates and vax passports!

      4. Cities don’t decide, individuals decide. Nothing good can come from binding people to the arbitrary fantasies of the majority.

      5. Yeah, it’s real tyranny when you can’t commit infanticide at will.

  11. Virtually all of Elder’s proposed policy changes were libertarian, something Reason and Greenhut now loathe.

    I don’t recall Larry Elder claiming he’d ban all abortions, impose prayers and the teaching of creationism in public schools, bringing back the death penalty, or banning businesses on Sunday (all conservative policies).

    In fact, California voters voted for the same disastrous left wing policies and elitist woke governor (whose political career was due to aunt Nancy Pelosi and her $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).

    They like lots of tents, homeless people and feces on their sidewalks. They enjoy being able to steal up to $950 from any store without being charged with a crime. They want housing prices to continue skyrocketing, and they love to sit on highways for hours driving to and from work. And of course, they like Big Brother telling them what to do.

    1. I don’t recall Larry Elder claiming he’d ban all abortions, impose prayers and the teaching of creationism in public schools, bringing back the death penalty, or banning businesses on Sunday (all conservative policies).

      Of course conservatives don’t campaign on that platform but once in office that is their agenda.

      1. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological liar, but entirely too stupid to understand that and to realize everyone else knows he’s full of shit.
        turd lies; that’s what turd does.

      2. And it would have been a snap for Elder to push that through the California state legislature, no doubt.

      3. Larry Elder is a libertarian you idiot! Fucking know who you are talking about before you say something.

        1. Buttplug is a fifty-center who works for Open Foundations.

          He’s paid to lie about the opposition.

          He also sockpuppets here as American Socia1ist and KillAllRednecks for the same reason.

    2. This is the correct analysis. Greenhut prefers the leftist analysis.

    3. You make a very good point: Elder was/is a little-l libertarian, as am I. Of course there is something of an irony here in that Initiative, Referendum, and Recall are all creatures of the communitarian “Progressive” movement. The movement pushed democratic socialism in direct opposition to our limited government, federal republican system. I should think every true libertarian would oppose the whole idea of a recall. At the same time, there is a pragmatic argument that we should use whatever tools that are available to try to return states and, ultimately, the central government to its founding principles.

    4. Pelosi is not really Newsom’s aunt. Fake news. His aunt divorced from Pelosi’s brother before he was born, or something like that.

      And it was precisely the main problem with Elder’s campaign that he ran on irrelevant Libertarianism. That could have waited until he was in office. That is one of the few things Greenhut gets right, even though his own list of the particulars Elder should have run on is basically indistinguishable from Elder’s in its irrelevance.

  12. Newsom vs Elder was a loser. The winner was Newsom vs reality. That was the election they didn’t run.

  13. Everyone needs to give Greenhut some space to work through his conflicted feelings here. He has been beaten so long by the Democrats in a state that is dominated by democrats, with messaging, commentary and advertising dominated by democrats, and all he can ever do is wail at Conservatives for failing to come and save him.

    When you read his article, the argument basically comes down to, (paraphrased) “Democrats are actually making our life miserable in California, but the conservatives are icky!” He blames Conservatives for, *gasp*, messaging conservative values, (as well as supporting Police with Gauche blue line flags). Well, here is a running list of who you can blame before Larry Elder:

    1) The Democratic Machine: Paid nearly $20 Million in advertising to opponents’ $7 Million- let alone the absurd articles coming out of the major newspapers. I drive maybe 20 Minutes a day, and I would hear 3 or 4 Anti-Recall ads on the radio and no Pro-Recall. It doesn’t matter what conservatives were saying, because all anyone knew was what the local unions were putting on the air.

    2) The Voters of California: Those Anti-Recall ads, in addition to implying that Trump was behind the recall, basically said, “If Elder is elected, he will roll back Vaccine and Mask Mandates”. People like me heard that and voted for Elder. Nearly twice as many heard that and voted for Newsance. I don’t know how a conservative could moderate such a simple message. Either you are for mandates or you are not, and voters in CA largely want the former.

    3) Mr Greenhut himself: Look at his previous articles during the run up to the recall. One arguably pro-recall article in June, and the rest either terrible attempts to criticize the conservatives who make ZERO difference in california’s political system, or some policy wonk stuff. In his worst article, he suggests that Conservatives are authoritarians because some obscure podcaster once had some monarchist on his show.

    https://reason.com/2021/08/13/conservatives-are-asking-you-to-disbelieve-your-own-eyes

    I think it is completely valid to say, “You know what, no one in this state really supports my views. Oh Well.” That is basically what I have done, and I will continue saying it until my employer stops making it worth my while to live here. But Mr Greenhut seems to think that if Conservatives were just a little more libertarian, and less likely to display vulgar patriotism, Californians would just line up behind them. This is, of course, nonsense.

    Californians are liberal democrats, and they elect liberal democrats. The majority welcomed shutdowns. The majority live in cities where conservatives are a caricatured boogey man told to frighten young millennials. They want strong unions, a minimum wage, expensive electricity, and all the substandard state services that money can buy- as long as they can find some other “rich guy” to pay for them. And like Greenhut, when these things fail to pan out, they always seem to find the few remaining Conservatives in this state to blame that failure on, rather than looking in the damn mirror.

    Look in the Mirror, Greenhut. That is why the Recall effort failed. YOU didn’t try hard enough. And until you actually realize the folly of disdaining your rural neighbors for their failure to embrace sophisticated cultural touchstones, you will never actually affect any change in this state. And I think that, secretly, you are fine with that. You have spent so long enjoying the fruits of Dem labors that you would rather spiral on down the toilet bowl than actually do something about it.

    1. His message is “Democrats are making our lives miserable here, but Republicans are stupid.” Not icky, dumb. Run a campaign in California that you’d run to win in Alabama and you’re going to get your ass handed to you. Which is what happened.

      But there’s always the comfort of claiming they cheated, right?

      1. So what you’re saying is that if Republicans want to win in California they have to be more like the Progressives? Once upon a time, they called that a Democrat. Now they call that a RINO.

      2. “Run a campaign in California that you’d run to win in Alabama ”

        Except, you know, that isn’t actually what happened. Greenhut gave exactly zero examples of which messages he felt were so poorly tailored to Californians. His first example of “republicans taking over” the recall effort was to link to an ANTI-RECALL website that spent the entire campaign stating that a vote for recall was a vote for Trump. That wasn’t the Conservatives in the state. That was the Democrats.

        His ONLY evidence that Conservatives were targeting Conservative values was to point to ONE debate between four candidates. That’s it.

        This is Greenhut’s schtick. He already knows in his heart what is wrong and he finds any evidence, no matter how tenuous, to support it. Look at his list of grievances about Newsance: He restricts charter schools? The majority of Californians DON’T SUPPORT CHARTER SCHOOLS. Homelessness? The majority of Californians do not want any conservative answer- just more money. Wildfires? Every Californian “knows” it is caused by Climate Change and really there is nothing anyone can do about it. NONE of these issues are winners for anyone even marginally to the right of Newsance.

        Greenhut is wrong. The Recall Team didn’t run right and fail to court the Democrats. Because there was not “Recall Team”. There was an existing Recall effort based on very narrow complaints that suddenly gained steam when thousands of people objected to Newsance partying away in Napa Valley while throwing the rest of the state into house arrest. But there was never any central organization, just a bunch of pissed off people who were never going to outnumber the people in this state who are just fine with blaming mythical conservatives for all their ills.

        1. I don’t live in California, so they can have whoever they want as governor. Whatever. I’d have liked to see Newsome eat it to set an example for our rulers and their “restrictions for thee, but not for me” bullshit.

    2. Everyone needs to give Greenhut some space to work through his conflicted feelings here. He has been beaten so long by the Democrats in a state that is dominated by democrats, with messaging, commentary and advertising dominated by democrats, and all he can ever do is wail at Conservatives for failing to come and save him.

      See also, any of Suderman’s articles.

    3. “If Elder is elected, he will roll back Vaccine and Mask Mandates”. People like me heard that and voted for Elder. Nearly twice as many heard that and voted for Newsance.

      This was the whole election (besides the robust and legal ballot harvesting effort). Vote for Elder and we’ll all die. I did a face palm.

      The polls were at 52-48 against the recall. It ended up 65-35. That’s some first class harvesting.

    4. Yes, I don’t recall the messaging being overly ‘conservative’ from the Elder camp.

      He was honest. Things that hurt him were disingenuous democrat mudslinging, and the fact that he is republican. He said things like I support a $0.00 minimum wage in the (widely viewed) sac bee interview. That lost a lot of potential voters I bet. That’s too radical for people. And it wasn’t anything Elder was running on, or was going to do anything about anyway.

      The liberal press latched on to some half-truths, taken out of context, and mud slang away. Evil republican is an easy sell in CA unfortunately.

      Newsome on TV crowing about saving the world from climate change after *gasp* another fire in CA in the summer. So fucking depressing that cunt is still gov.

  14. I’ll grant you that this was a long shot at the very best. But would it have been successful if Elder had said “I’ll govern exactly like Newsom”? I don’t see any point in that.

    1. Gosh, it’s almost as if there’s room between Newsome and the absolute right that you could try to run in.

      But nah, easier to piss the voters off and then claim foul play. You never get to govern but you always feel like a winner.

      1. Okay, say Elder ran in this “room”…do you think he would have won? Why?

        1. No, I’m saying they need to be more centrist. You know, appeal to what the voters want. That sort of thing. Hardly anybody likes the fucking progressives.

          Newsome was an the ropes, and the Republicans RINO’d him back into office.

          1. You’ve no idea what “that sort of thing” that voters in California want is, do you?

          2. So you’re saying that the Republicans should have pretended to be Democrats? That’s pretty dishonest and ultimately pointless.

            If California wants to be ruled by authoritarian nanny-staters, let them have them, but that’s no reason to become one yourself.

        2. Sandwich – apologies. I’m on my phone and put the answer to jerry’s question here.

          I don’t know if they’d won or not. But they’d at least have had a better chance. No matter what any of us think about conservative principles, the strictest parts of them will not win in California.

          I’d have like to see Newsome go. Whatever on the politics, but one of these bastards needs to suffer a consequence for their hypocrisy on Covid precautions.

          1. I hear what you’re saying but I’m not sure how well that will work. It would be tough for them to not come off like Mitt Romney. I don’t think Romney is the future of the Republican party.

    2. “…would it have been successful if Elder had said “I’ll govern exactly like Newsom”?”

      To be fair, Greenhut didn’t say that. Here is his version of what the petition ought to have said:

      “The current governor has restricted charter schools, which are an educational bright spot. Violent crime is rising, homelessness is spreading civic disorder, and wildlands are on fire. There’s the Employment Development Department scandal and much to critique in Newsom’s handling of COVID-19. The budget is in great shape (if we ignore the state’s unfunded liabilities), but there are myriad reasons for disgruntlement”

      Which, except for being fine with the Invasion, is about the same as Elder, and not “exactly like Newsom”.

      But you’re absolutely right that Greenhut’s ideal campaign was also a no-hoper.

      1. Yes, and that’s why I’m skeptical of claims Newsom won by cheating. Undoubtedly there were some shenanigans–seems like there always are. But in California I very much doubt the Democrats need to cheat for state-wide offices.

        Heh, if they did win by cheating then I’d say they shot themselves in the foot. There’s no way Elder could have turned the state around in the time he would have had, and then the Democrats could have shifted the blame to him for California being a shithole. Seems to me Newsom now completely owns whatever happens.

        1. Newsom owns the shithole, but he or his successor will just run against its becoming a double shithole. And then when it becomes a double shithole, they’ll run against its becoming a triple shithole, and keep winning.

        2. California is #47 in IQ. They don’t know cause and effect. Their primary Ed is trash. They’ll keep voting D because they are told to do so.

      2. Elder’s statement in the voter guide focused on charter schools, homelessness, housing costs, and crime, almost exactly like Greenhut wanted.

        But Dems spent 3 times as much money painting Elder as a caricature right-wing Trump backer who was going to turn California into Florida.

    3. exactly Sandwich why run a twin to Newsom or any other milk toast politician. we need politicians like Trump and Elder because they aren’t scared of the left like all the other “aggreable” republicans who get nothing done and capitulate to every democrat whim so as to not look mean. that is how California got to this sad state. people like Arnold schwarenagger who claimed to be a republican but was a democrat in real life

  15. “there might very well be shenanigans.”

    Nice band name, albeit perhaps too similar to “They Might Be Giants”.

    1. 2020 Election Improper Governmental Operations Report – Presented To Arizona Senate and Will Be Submitted To Attorney General

    2. That was a quote from Don Quixote before it was a band, I believe,

      1. Not directly, but it’s a reference to this movie, whose title is a reference to Quixote.

        The movie closes with a great speech by George C. Scott, who plays a guy who thinks he’s Sherlock Holmes, of the importance of having giants to fight, even if, and especially if, we know in our heart of hearts that they’re only windmills. Because they might be giants, and that’s all that matters.

    3. Now don’t let’s start….

  16. “The problem started with the recall petition. Instead of focusing on broad concerns, it chided Newsom for favoring “foreign nationals, in our country illegally,” as if immigrants rather than homegrown politicians are the problem.”

    Is it really necessary to point out how idiotic this sentence is?
    Criticizing a politician is really saying immigrants are the problem rather than that the politician is the problem?

    1. Looking at the embedded link to petition I find,

      “The grounds for this recall are as Follows: Governor Newsom has implemented laws which are detrimental to
      the citizens of this state and our way of life. Laws he endorsed favor foreign nationals, in our country illegally, over
      that of our own citizens. People in this state suffer the highest taxes in the nation, the highest homelessness rates,
      and the lowest quality of life as a result. He has imposed sanctuary state status and fails to enforce immigration
      laws. He unilaterally over-ruled the will of the people regarding the death penalty. He seeks to impose additional
      burdens on our state by the following; removing the protections of Proposition 13, rationing our water use,
      increasing taxes and restricting parental rights. Having no other recourse, we the people have come together to
      take this action, remedy these misdeeds and prevent further injustices. ”

      So, Greenhut’s summary of the bill of particulars is woefully incomplete and misleading. But he supplies one of his own:

      “The current governor has restricted charter schools, which are an educational bright spot. Violent crime is rising, homelessness is spreading civic disorder, and wildlands are on fire. There’s the Employment Development Department scandal and much to critique in Newsom’s handling of COVID-19. The budget is in great shape (if we ignore the state’s unfunded liabilities), but there are myriad reasons for disgruntlement.”

      So, Greenhut thinks charter schools are a more important issue in California than the Invasion. Got it.

      1. And unfortunately for Greenhut, Charter Schools are not a fucking winner in this state. Half of the Charter Schools have been taken over by Unions. And only around 45-48% of Californians (depending on the poll) support them in the first place.

        1. Charter schools might be nice, but it was not the reason there was a recall election. Lots of (D) voters got hurt by the COVID Panic and the electricity shutoffs, and their votes were what was needed to have any hope of recalling Newsom. And for that you had to jump-start a debate about it. Instead Elder wasted his 5 minutes of attention.

          1. He did not. His ads constantly talked about the hypocrisy of Newsance partying in Napa while the state was on lock down. He didn’t waste anything.

            The problem was that Democrats outspent the oposition nearly 3 to 1, and had papers like the LA Times declaring that Elder was the Black Face of White Supremacy. No one voted against Elder because of his actual views, because in that climate, no one could even discern his views.

            1. This is why I like the comments here when you can get past the insane leftists who want to hang out here, we get some great points. The Republicans lost this election because they refused to even try and back it. Elder was the perfect candidate for California independents and republicans and could have pulled in some centrist dems but they refused to fight against them turning him into Trump in a state where TDS is injected into children at birth.

  17. Reason: “Rah, Rah, Shisk boom bah, we love woke liberal Democrats and disdain real liberalizations.

    Maybe Republicans got what they deserve running a black man that is an Uncle Tom and the black face of white supremacy. I see Reason has no trouble with those racist lies.

    Newsom did not get what he deserved, to be canned.

    California voters will get again exactly what they deserve. Higher taxes, more regulations and mandates and a hypocrite for a governor, Enjoy if you are from California, but no more complaints, no one is going to listen again.

    1. It is such a terrible article. He mouths slight support of Elder and has absolutely nothing to say about Democrats and the Media’s efforts to recast him as the second coming of David Duke. It’s absurd.

  18. I mean, that’s a pretty easy take. Same way that the primary challenger in WV against Manchin would’ve been absolutely destroyed in the general had she won the nomination.

  19. California is the most diverse state in the US and it foreshadows the future for this country. A political party that is focused on the aggrieved vanity of a former President can not compete on this ground. The Republicans need to pack up Trump and move back to ideas if they want to continue to be a viable political party in California and in the country as a whole.

    1. Why would anybody want to control CA?

      Fuck the voters there. Deserve all you get.

    2. “The Republicans need to pack up Trump and move back to ideas if they want to continue to be a viable political party in California…”

      Continue? That ship has sailed. And despite the (D) ads Elder wasn’t remotely running for Trump. Stop trying to sell us aggressively stupid shit.

    3. “…The Republicans need to pack up Trump…”

      TDS-addled assholes like you need to fuck off and die.

      1. We need for Bushes, apparently. Greenhut gets hard at the idea of never-ending wars killing dark-skinned folks.

    4. No. As far as many of us are concerned, every one of you progs can’t ie before we let that happen to the rest of America. Of course, it only comes to that if you people won’t stop with your oppressive socialist bullshit. All you need to do is abandon your slaver beliefs and leave everyone alone.

      At the end of the day I don’t care if you ride out of town on your horse, or slung over the back of it.

  20. I knew the recall had no chance, but still, it was a great way to throw sand in the gears and harass Newsom for a few months. I wouldn’t complain if they started all over and tried again.

    1. Bingo. No electricity shutoffs while the polls were in the offing.

      1. exactly and since the election is over the power has gone off a few times

  21. Not sure this really is unique to CA. I’ve seen similar stuff in every state I’ve lived in where one of the two parties has broken. When that happens – when there are no longer competitive election to keep things focused on reality, then one side heads off into nutso craziness with its rhetoric and the other side starts ticking off the worst parts of its agenda. iow – moderates/centrists tend to disappear and you get pure polarization.

    In places that allow third parties to exist (meaning other countries not the US at this time), that situation tends to result in a realignment of electoral/governing coalitions. Which may result in a polarizing pluralism (where the third parties tend to reinforce the two party polarization) – or it may result in a moderating pluralism.

    I don’t know what the end result is in a country like the US that really doesn’t allow third parties to exist.

    1. You don’t seem to know what the word “allow” means.

      1. I don’t know what he means by ‘allow’ but the FEC has stacked things in favor of the republicans and the democrats. They did this back in the 90’s after Perot had such a strong showing in 92.

  22. “Doubling down on stridently conservative messaging in a state where conservatives are a dwindling and fleeing minority doesn’t seem like a winning strategy.”

    While I surely don’t agree with Greenhut on many of the particulars in this article, I do believe this is essentially correct. I lived in CA for well over fifty years, mostly in republican-dominated counties. I watched closely as our local long-time Congressional representative simplified his message as his district gradually drifted to the left. Most of his message was “No new taxes, and no new gun laws.” He kept it simple. He beat back his democrat opponents for years. Our State Senator and Assembly Representatives took much the same tack, and remained in office for quite a bit longer than one might have expected.

    In more recent gubernatorial elections (not commenting on this recall election), it appeared to me that the republican party, as the state drifted left, ran candidates for the governor’s mansion who were drifting the opposite direction. This is not a good strategy, especially when their candidates, generally speaking, had the charisma of a tuna sandwich.

    From my viewpoint, the republican party in CA has been doing things wrong for a long, long, time.

    1. The important point is that the Republican Party didn’t run this recall effort.

      You don’t get good republican politicians in California because it is a dead end for Republican Politicians. Instead you get people who are doing this as a second job, vanity run, or some other “also ran” reason.

      But beyond that, so what? I mean, what is the point of being a Republican in a state if you are just going to argue for Democrat policies? The majority of Californians don’t care about Charter Schools, want the rich to house homeless people and want perpetual lockdowns and Vaccination mandates. There is a minority of people who disagree. Why should those people have to choose a representative who is literally a Republican in Name Only?

      1. What other message would you expect from an open borders cheap labor shill like Greenfart?

      2. So the question is, should Republicans focus on Silicon Valley elites and those whose god complexes actually push the narrative?

    2. I did not see anything in Elders adds that were Trumpian or other than standard conservative ideas like less government and fewer taxes. there was nothing extreme in any of his campaigns to warrant the idea that he was to far right. that whole idea comes straight from the left and media who also claimed Mitt Romney was a NAZI.

      1. I agree. Elder’s stated views were standard conservative ideas. No wonder the CA Republican Party refused to endorse him.

      2. “I did not see anything in Elders adds that were Trumpian or other than standard conservative ideas like less government and fewer taxes. there was nothing extreme in any of his campaigns to warrant the idea that he was to far right…’

        Neither did I, which is why I wasn’t commenting on the recall election. But the Repubs in CA have run so many generally-disagreeable “conservatives” in the past that I believe that most Dems in CA view anyone who isn’t a dem as “fruit from the poisoned tree,” so to speak. I saw the same thing happen in the last election in my current district, where the Rep running had no experience whatsoever, and not one thing to his entire campaign which departed in any way whatsoever from Trump’s campaign slogans. He lost hugely in a district which is pretty close rep vs dem. A more moderate (even moderate-appearing) Repub might have taken the seat.

  23. Had a prominent Democrat decided to make a grab for personal ambition rather than toeing the party line, they would be Governor of California right now. Newsom only won because his party declined to present an alternative

    1. Say “him”. Or if you insist on being Woke, “her”.

      “The singular “they” is a step too far. Loonish.

      1. the singular they has been used for decades as an either or. Don’t let the loons take it.

  24. The losing strategy for any non-leftist is winning office in California. With leftists controlling all other levers of power in the state no non-leftist measures can pass anyway. As a result the only impact is giving the left a path to blame others for the results of their own policy choices.

    Leave California to the loons and let the results be a warning to everyone else.

  25. Luckily CA’s single party system of unchallenged rulers will be confined within it’s borders, and Reason will only have our exceedingly rare failed challenges to authority to gloat over.

    1. Actually expat Californians are carrying the contagion to other states.

      1. “Actually expat Californians are carrying the contagion to other states.”

        Rest assured, not this one.

  26. “Everyone needs to give Greenhut some space to work through his conflicted feelings here.”

    No, we don’t; he needs to be called on his bullshit.
    First, neither the recall nor any campaign for Elder were R-organized; Elder ended up the preferred choice for the same reason Trump remains popular; a sizable portion of the population is fed up with the lefty ‘elite’ telling them what to do and when to do it. The fact that many of those people list themselves as Republican simply tells you a lot about the Democrat party.
    Furthermore, the assholes Newsom, Obo, Harris and Warren all focused their TV ads on Elder, so he got a lot of free ‘ink’.
    And then, his platform appealed to the same people; no (illegal) vax passports, no worthless mask mandates (which the assholes listed about claimed ‘WERE GOING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!’)
    Elder wasn’t my first choice, but he’s miles ahead of the greaseball tin-pot-dictator wanna-be currently holding office

  27. This is not what happened. Team D hit upon the strategy of elevating a weak candidate and then making it an either or choice.

    They initially picked Caitlyn Jenner as their preferred candidate.

    When that failed to gain traction, they picked Larry Elder. They then proceeded to paint a false picture of the non-politician candidate. (White supremacist?).

    That is how they won the recall.

    It had absolutely nothing to do with republican policies or strategy.

    1. Yea the real issue here seems to be how easily the stupid, brainwashed, poorly educated, and gullible citizens of California fall for the “racism” card. A bunch of white racists in California said and printed all kinds of racist things against elder. Period. Full stop.

      But the worthless, racist, leftys in California ignored that (because it shines a light on how racist the left really is) and instead chose to believe elder was an uncle Tom because racists at the L. A. times said so.

  28. Greenhut, like the Dem voters, doesn’t seem to know how the California recall process works. If the governor is recalled in Question 1, the new governor is the person who gets the most votes in Question 2, even if that is only 15 or 20 percent or whatever. With 4 dozen candidates, it was amazing that one of them (Elder) topped 40%. It’s the only chance Repubs have of actually putting a conservative candidate in the governor’s mansion.

    Save the centrist Arnold-type guy for regular elections, where you need to appeal to the mainstream voters.

    Almost half of the Dem voters didn’t bother to vote on Question 2. Which would be ranked somewhere between abject stupidity and foolishness when the recall Question 1 was polling at 48-52% the week before the election. (Somehow it ended up at 35-65% against, at which point the polls were no longer mentioned.)

  29. Instead of focusing on broad concerns, it chided Newsom for favoring “foreign nationals, in our country illegally,” as if immigrants rather than homegrown politicians are the problem.”

    Readers of this website understand that CA provides illegal aliens with free healthcare and college, correct? This author suggests the recall was fueled by anti-“immigrant” sentiment, but there’s a little more to it. Does Reason endorse providing free healthcare and college to illegal aliens?

    1. Only half true. Emergency medical services are provided for all human beings regardless of nationality, citizenship, or legal status. This is not California, THIS IS THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH ALL DOCTORS TAKE!

      And while “illegal” aliens can attend state funded colleges, they don’t get to do so for free. If they meet the residency requirements get the same subsized tuition rates as legal residents, but then so do legal residents regardless of citizenship. And regardless, it’s still not “free”.

        1. Brandyshit’s not real bright.

      1. “And while “illegal” aliens can attend state funded colleges, they don’t get to do so for free.”

        In the last place I lived in CA, some of my neighbors were VERY UPSET that non-citizens were attending the local community college. Total enrollment of the college? Just over 10,000. The number of non-citizens attending? Six.

      2. You’re really fucking dumb.

  30. The only people who deserve to live under Newsom’s rule are the people who failed to recall him.

  31. Greenhut: ““[1]The current governor has restricted charter schools, which are an educational bright spot. [2]Violent crime is rising, homelessness is spreading civic disorder, and [3]wildlands are on fire. There’s [4]the Employment Development Department scandal and [5]much to critique in Newsom’s handling of COVID-19. [6]The budget is in great shape (if we ignore the state’s unfunded liabilities), but there are myriad reasons for disgruntlement.”

    Elder’s website: [1] “As governor, I would be a big proponent of school choice. It is simple, the money follows the child, not the other way around. Studies have shown that school choice improves education in the suburbs and in the inner cities alike. Positive competition improves the product. Education is a 21st-century civil rights issue. It’s not right to force parents to send their children to an under-performing school. We need to empower parents and students. California deserves better.”
    [2]”Soft-on-crime approaches have been a disaster for California. … Governor Gavin Newsom… enable[s] criminals by allowing them to avoid conviction and incarceration… There is nothing compassionate about “early release” for prisoners when it is well known that most will re-offend. Where is Newsom’s concern for their past and future victims? / Proposition 47 is terrible too. For all intents and purposes, it gives free reign for theft up to $950.”
    [3]”The current governor has… cut funding and scaled back fire-prevention work.”
    [4 & 5]”It is a disgrace that Gavin Newsom’s draconian coronavirus restrictions forced Californians out of their jobs and homes, while the EDD paid up to $31 billion to fraudsters and criminals.”
    [6] Temporary relief during the worst pandemic in a century was certainly reasonable and desirable, but Gavin Newsom’s spending spree is not… former Governor Jerry Brown… knows that throwing big chunks of cash at people is bad policy and predicted “fiscal stress” for the state within two years.”

    I didn’t support or vote for Elder (though of course I voted for Governor Gruesome’s recall) but Greenhut’s lies about what Elder didn’t say are nonetheless hard to not notice.

  32. The problem wasn’t the recall election, the problem was that ONE candidate, Larry Elder. He just went full derp. You never go full derp. Candidates like Faulconer were far more level headed.

    The recall could have happened if Newsom didn’t make it into a Newsom vs Elder runoff election, and if the didn’t choose to explicitly promote one out of a dozen different Republican candidates, and instead focused on the recall itself.

    1. Nah the problem is a bunch of ignorant racist democrats ignored all the racist attacks against elder and instead chose to believe elder was an uncle Tom because the racists at the LA times said so.

  33. So you blame Republicans for allowing the recall to appear as Democrat vs. Republican, but then you blame Republicans for not making themselves more attractive? What would be the point of the latter if not for the former?

    You say they should’ve appealed to the center, but then you make it like there was something wrong with tying themselves to Trump, who successfully appealed to the center to get elected. You point to the success of installing Schwarzenegger, but then what good did it do when he caved to the unions eventually anyway?

  34. Why doesn’t the Libertarian party rebrand itself to the left of Newsom, AOC, and Sanders? Heck, they might even win a race or two, while losing their country!

  35. You admire Larry Elder, but, “Recallers should have recruited the right candidate before they started collecting signatures.” Admit it, you have no idea who the right candidate would be.

    What the election proved is that in California, you can’t win against the Democrats, you have to do it as a Democrat. You have to get in with the Newsom crowd and try to become his successor, or, more realistically, his successor’s successor. Study what they did to get where they are, and do like that. Then catch your boss in bed with a crack whore (setting him up with one if need be), and move up in the organization.

  36. The upshot of Greenhut’s column is that Republicans should forget about limiting the government and run like Democrats. Romney tried that and lost to an incompetent whose only accomplishment was writing two autobiographies.

    Perhaps Republicans should pretend to support socialism and then privatize everything when they get into office. Lying worked for the Democrats, right? No, the Democrats don’t have to lie, they have won the culture wars and until the Right accepts this and figures out why they were so badly beaten, the country will proceed on the path to totalitarianism.

  37. Newsom spending five time more money on his campaign than Elder spent played a huge role in the election outcome, as did lies by Democrats (including Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Newsome) falsely claiming that Elder was a Trump clone, and lies by left wing media claiming Elder was a racist.

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  39. And how many votes did Jeff Hewitt get again?

    The GOP at the national level spent no money on the race. Elder was outspent probably 10 to 1 and didn’t air a single TV ad. Nevertheless, he still got around 40-45% Latino vote and was able to repeat much of Trump’s earlier gains with minorities. CA has more white suburban liberals who live in their own little safe circle more than any other state.

    CA gave Biden 54% approval rating. They basically live in alternate universe. I guarantee you that GOP leadership is mildly pleased that a relatively obscure black libertarian was able to sustain Trump’s success with key demographics.

    Virtually all conservative media through their support behind Elder. Even independents warmed up to him. As for Reason, Elder was a nonentity. There’s really no reason anyone should donate money to rag or the LP. They have no future. Their ideological rigidity prevents them from forming meaningful coalition, and their baffling tendency to belittle like minded individuals who differ on key policy issues will create new enemies. The hated Donald Trump made inroads with key demo, while the libertarians will always be limited to TINY white segment of the center right. universe

  40. Robert Noel and Marjorie Knoller pretty much sums up modern Californians. Two SF lawyers who operated out of a broom closet, bred lesbian eating dogs, adopted a prison inmate and filmed porn tapes of him and other cons fucking the wife. When they were hauled away for manslaughter they reportedly said. “Well at least we’re not Republicans.”

  41. I’m amazed that the same writers who support candidates who regularly garner less than 5% of the vote, if that, feel the need to lecture Republicans on what “they’re doing wrong”. I mean, we could apply this article’s logic to libertarians, as well.

    I’ll await the “Libertarians don’t win because they’re doing everything wrong” article from the Reason staff I’m sure is forthcoming.

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  43. Doubling down on stridently conservative messaging in a state where conservatives are a dwindling and fleeing minority doesn’t seem like a winning strategy.

    Hard as that may be for you to believe, Greenhut, lying to voters about your intentions and then doing something completely different when you get into power is not the right thing to do.

  44. Coming from a libertarian site, this article was hipster levels of irony.

  45. What a weird article from a libertarian site. “Republican runs as a libertarian, deserves to lose because voters aren’t libertarian.” Considering that this is pretty much the story of every Libertarian candidate ever, I have to ask: what pragmatic approach does he recommend to the Libertarian party?

  46. Charter schools suck ass, and didn’t Enron actually cause the rolling blackouts on purpose? Yay, large corporations will never do anything wrong because public opinion something something freedom libertarianism.

  47. Go away Greenhut. Your credibility is zero.

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