CNN's Jim Acosta Was Rude, but He Did Not Assault a White House Intern
Trump vs. the media-good for Trump, and good for the media.

Proving yet again that President Trump and the media need each other in the way that the Joker needs Batman, an altercation between CNN's Jim Acosta and a White House aide during the president's press conference Wednesday produced a series of absurdities, each more shameful than the one before it.
First, Trump berated Acosta for daring to question the president's characterization of the migrant caravan as an invasion. "I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN," said Trump. "And if you did it well, your ratings would be much better."
Next, Acosta attempted to ask another question and refused to yield the microphone, even when his turn was up and a young woman—described by some media outlets as a White House aide or intern—tried to take it back. Acosta rudely rebuffed the poor woman, moving the mic away from her as if they were playing high stakes keep-away. Reporters should challenge the powerful, but the picture of an older male reporter making a younger female staffer uncomfortable wasn't pretty, especially when Acosta's only purpose was to showboat for the cameras.
The White House upped the ante significantly. Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders accused Acosta of "placing his hands" on the intern. You can watch the video for yourself: It's clear that nothing of the sort happened. Acosta might have embarrassed the poor woman, but he didn't assault her.
The end result: The White House decided to revoke Acosta's press clearance. CNN is standing by its reporter, and accused Sanders of making "fraudulent accusations."
"This unprecedented decision is a threat to our democracy and the country deserves better," said CNN in a statement.
Whether or not that's true, Sanders' description of Acosta's actions was inaccurate, and thus a false accusation. It was very wrong to make such a claim. The White House ought to be more careful, and the administration certainly shouldn't banish reporters for being critical. Give Acosta back his credential—and a warning not to hog the mic—and let's move on to the next Trump vs. the media outrage. God knows both sides love it. As the Joker put it in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight: "I don't wanna kill you. What would I do without you?"
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Lol!
It was a Core Lewandowski-style beatdown.
Why do you still live in California? You would be much happier living in a trailer park in South Carolina.
Look at your neighbors, plenty of trailer parks in California.
For the lucky ones.
Most just shit where they live - the street
He bodily blocked her with his arm--clearly an assault. To say any further proof of his intent were needed, would be like saying that a reputation-damaging "confession" issued in the name of one of our department chairmen here at NYU is just "parody." Clearly the burden is on the assailant to prove he didn't intend to assault his victim, just as it's on the impersonator to prove he didn't intend his mockery to be believed. See the documentation of our nation's leading criminal "satire" case at:
https://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/
I was thinking along those lines also. We usually hear of 'assault & battery'. There is a difference between the two words. He did not strike her, so no battery. The microphone did not belong to him, and she had the right to recover it from him. When he kept it by force, then I think he erred.
No. Battery is not about "striking" it's about touching and he clearly did touch her.
"At common law, an intentional unpermitted act causing harmful or offensive contact with the "person" of another."
The question is whether his touching rose to the level of "harmful or offensive contact" which is very doubtful. It certainly helped him retain control of the microphone because it successfuly pushed her left arm down causing her to lose her grip on the mike. But no one would ever be charged with battery for such a minor contact.
That you don't realize your shitlib enclaves in Cali are full of homeless people and working poor who live in their cars is the most hilarious part of your unself-aware poasting career.
"working poor" in California is a six figure income.
SIV lives in Georgia, with his poultry harem.
CMB is jealous. CMB is stuck fucking homeless dogs under the boardwalk.
I love that song
The lucky ones have left.
Less crime, homelessness, and taxes outside Commifornia.
Why even call on him? Let him sit and spin.
CNN should be given a chair in the back corner, and ignored.
who cares?
The real question is when can we get a president to declare martial law and execute all these elite journalists for treason?
Executions? Trump hasn't even issued warrants on them like Obama did.
Nor spied on them as Sheryl Atkinson had done to her.
Not soon enough!
I guess I'm the only person who notices your handle is a sick nod to Hitler and murder of millions.
"guess I'm the only person who notices your handle"
So damn perceptive, you must be the very incarnation of Sherlock Holmes. What tipped you off? Was it "Adolph"? "Gas"?
Too bad you can't perceive obvious irony though.
Nah we just ignore dumb fucks like him, you probably should too. He's clearly a troll looking for a reaction. Don't feed the trolls.
I guess I'm the only person who notices your handle is a sick nod to Hitler and the murder of millions.
I guess I'm the only person who notices your handle is a sick nod to Hitler and the murder of millions in gas chambers.
At least 3 people noticed.
And they typed more letters each time.
Ordinary people, apparently.
The Donald has the talent to have been cast in Batman as a great villain.
Would he have been Caesar Romero? Burgess Meredith?
No, but he would have been every bit the legendary, memorable, and iconic character that the Joker was.
Acosta? At best, he would have been an uncredited extra with no lines.
It was a high-stakes game of keepaway, and if she was so uncomfortable playing it she should blame her employer.
Stupid comment. Acosta's turn was up. He's a dick.
Acosta was a dick. I completely agree. I wish we had better people in there to question Trump.
That's impossible. Only the media goes to those things and they are horrible people.
Exactly he is not journalist, only a liberal activist. And those were not questions but accusations disguised as questions. If the press had any credibility they would have spoken out about his grandstanding and shouting over other reporters questions for the past 2 years.
Going with your idiotic analogy.
The mic was her employers property. She was retrieving it from the ranting homeless person who took it.
Your right Cathy, she should have called in security and they could have retrieved the stolen property from the clown.
Why is robby denying the credible allegation against acosta?
He doesn't think video evidence is credible. We need to wait 20 years and have everyone deny this event happened to add credibility for Robby.
Robby is all in against Trump.
Robby cannot back down now. He would look like a fool.
"He would look like a fool."
You mean he doesn't already look like a fool?
Because it's not credible, it's right there on film. If that is "assault" we've all done it when we try to steal one of our friends' freedom fries. So you can take your Alex Jones conspiracy BS elsewhere.
Because it's not credible, it's right there on film. If that is "assault" we've all done it when we try to steal one of our friends' freedom fries. So you can take your Alex Jones conspiracy BS elsewhere.
Acosta is lucky he was in that setting, in the words of Lynyrd Skynrd, "thats my woman there and I'm a man who cares and that might be all for you"
I guess we have the answer to what ridiculous stuff do you need to do to get bounced. Now we have it,
Internet tough guys all over.
This idiot Accostsya was begging to get the banhammer, and don't kid yourself, he loves all this attention. CNN is perfectly free to send another person with better manners and professionalism, if they have anyone who fits that bill.
There have been tough and occasionally even contentious White House reporters before. Old gargoyle Helen Thomas famously comes to mind. To her credit though, she had enough sense to at least understand that there was in fact a certain line you didn't cross.
Acosta is about Acosta and yes I saw him touch the intern whether inadvertently or not they touched.. He is rude for a purpose so therefore it is more about furthering his career than journalism. That being true no President has an obligation to promote or contribute to the career of mediocre talent like Acosta. If he is a disruptive force and physically a bully then he should be replaced. If CNN chooses not to replace him no worries as there will many more to take his place. Reason and the Libertarian party has decided to team up with progressives. Too bad because as a result they will never be relevant
Quit whining about your betters, you bigoted, half-educated, authoritarian rube.
You're going to look AWESOME in your stripey uniform when we throw you in the reeducation camp Rev! What's your size again?
I don't think Acosta counts as anyone's better... well, maybe Gary Glitter's if you don't count singing.
He's Kirkland's better, that's why Rev washes his feet with his tongue.
Everyone is Kirkland's better.
All the GOP cucks in this Libertarian forum sucking The D's D are a joke. Acosta was being an ass but he didn't "attack" anyone. What a bunch of whiny pussies you guys are. Sure he was a dick and should have turned over the microphone, but he didn't do anything to that intern other than hurt her pride a little bit. The one reason I like the libertarian slant is they think before they speak, but GOP trumper never take their nose out of Donnie's asshole long enough to consider other perspectives.
Can anyone imagine 1/10 of this crap going on in an Obama presser and being tolerated?
At some point you have to bounce someone.
The media declared it racism when a conservative reporter yelled out a question to Obama.
Acosta should be 86'd from the press meetings.
He was... haha
Remember when Obama tried banning Fox, and they didn't even pull any of these stunts.
God knows both sides love it.
This! The mainstream press has curried favor and been the lap dog of the presidency for a long time so that they can get their credentials to the sideshow that is The Presidential Propaganda Hour. They need each other and the one neither wants is a stable country. As long as there is drama and crisis, The Press can make millions and the president (no matter the party) gets his spin out to the public daily.
Acosta isn't a reporter, he is an entertainer. He wasn't asking questions, he was on a soapbox. They don't call it the Clinton News Network for nothing. It's funny, because in their quest to be the DNCs best friend, their probably their worst enemy. Trump acts like a 5 year old and instead of of objectively allowing his own behavior hurt him, they respond by acting like 2 year olds throwing a temper tantrum.
Why would anyone waste any arguing bullets in defence of a free press on that piece of shit?
Antifa attacked Tucker Carlson's house.
I mentioned them because Antifa and morons like Acosta see themselves as 'resisters'. They're more like the Dostoevsky's 'Demons'.
I musta missed the part where Tea Partiers did the same to Rachel Maddow.
But it's okay. We're told both sides are just as bad.
"Antifa attacked Tucker Carlson's house."
Why are Trump supporters so angry? / MSM.
It is weird watching Robby defend Acosta but silent on tucker. Suspension of white house access outrage!!!!!! Threatening Tucker's wife and kids at his house when he's not there... Meh.
Another Reason writer did an article today on the Antifa attack on Carson, but he had to go and bring in the lone nutcase making threats against CNN's Don Lemon to try and imply that both sides are doing it.
Both are wrong, but a single nut violently acting out, even on political motivations, isn't in the same ballpark of wrong as organized political violence.
Robby ain't getting that sweet MSM gig by being seen defending Carlson or (worse) criticizing Antifa.
Pretty much this. All the Reason writers are hoping to end up at the NYT, Washington Post or the Atlantic eventually.
They know they have absolutely no hope if they don't keep on message.
HuffPo. They all lust after HuffPo.
CNN's Jim Acosta Was Rude, But He Did Not Assault a White House Intern
Robby is made of straw. Also, @ the intern, would.
If she grabbed for my mike I would not swat that hand away, is all I'm saying.
He didn't assault her. That's true. It was more of a rude brush off preventing her from doing her work.
Still. Imagine someone doing that in any other line of work?
They'd be in some kind of trouble.
But we're told it's okay in the press gallery. It's like apparently we should accept the way politicians that each other when we wouldn't tolerate it in civil, polite society outside that dark realm.
Yes different rules for the sacred press which most are part of the DNC machine
He forcefully pressed down on her elbow when she grasped the mic to break her grip, which it did. You can see her shocked facial expression. It was, in fact, an assault.
It was as brutal as Corey Lewandowski's assault on Michelle non-entity.
I rewatched it and see your point.
You are correct, Tom. Once again the writers here are clueless. This is a standard move taught in most self defense classes for avoiding or breaking a wrist grab. You might even find a video(s) demonstration/explanation on the interwebz if only there was a way to search for and store videos....
Acosta probably took a class at the YWCA.
He spent time in Iraq reporting on the troops, all he had to do was ask a bored pvt for a one-on-one demo.
"Hey, who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" --Robby
Sarah Huckabee Sanders is doing the best she can with an Ouachita Baptist education, a shambling familiarity with English and reality, and an authoritarian, stale, intolerant worldview.
I bet you probably went to Flower Mound Community College, Mary.
For a guy who likely earns his living stocking shelves at Whole Foods, you sure have a lot to say about other people's educations, don't you?
I would have figured dumpster-diving at a Whole Foods, but you're probably right.
Nice to see the Ouachita Baptist fans -- more accurate, fans of backwater religious education and homeschooling by downscale parents -- defending their homegirl.
Shambling, disaffected losers need to stick together. What else do they have, except maybe a handful of street pills?
Rev. you seem to be stuck on rule 5. Someday you will get to rule 7 and find you wore out rule 5. But, that would be an assumption you can read. Maybe you could find a 10 year old that could read and explain rules 6 - 10, so you can move forward.
Do you need a man bun for that?
Do you have something against honest work? All these people claim they support the working class but you really hate us.
Ouachita Baptist?
Don't take the free pamphlets or she'll ask you for money.
Or is that Ouachita Bible College?
Fuck him - and CNN. That wasn't journalism Robby. That was an asshole acting like an activist shithead. Trump, for what it's worth, answered the damn question that he believe the caravan was an invasion. It should have ended there. Add that Acosta has done nothing but act like an unprofessional asshat since 2016. Why should ANY President tolerate that garbage? Because 'free press'? As noted, if that was my daughter in any other setting? But apparently the press can do what it chooses and not face consequences? Please.
Notice the idiot from NBC who took the mic right after 'in his defense'. I woulda sent him out too. Right. They're not all in cahoots with one another. Those jerk offs aren't looking for the truth. They're looking for a 'gotcha' moment.
Acosta damages your craft pal.
Acosta is Rico's craft.
Can't say anything worse.
Don't forget April Ryan stood up and demanded to have her question answered. She refused to sit down We have freedom of the press not freedom of the mob
Rufus : "Trump, for what it's worth, answered the damn question that he believe the caravan was an invasion"
But Trump doesn't believe the caravan is an "invasion", does he? No one short of psychotic delusion could believe something so stupid. It's just propagandistic nonsense, as grotesque as anything from Baghdad Bob or the North Korean Information Ministry. Is that really what you want from our president, RTM? Someone who uses the United States Army as a toy prop in a childish stunt? Someone who tells the American people to "fear" 2500 ragged men, women and children on foot hundreds of miles from the US border? I'm really interested in a response. I'm really interested to see just how far Trump's supporters will debase themselves to excuse lying, pandering and venality.
Acosta didn't debase the media; he called out an obvious lie. Trump debased the president. Do you care?
Do you think that, when they reach our border, if we tell them to go away that they'll just turn around and head back to Honduras? The way they DIDN'T turn around when Guatemala and then Mexico told them to go away?
Unless your answer to that is "Yes", it's an invasion. Maybe not a "military" invasion, but, "an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity." which is a dictionary definition of "invasion".
Trump is right, and you and Anacosta are wrong. It's as simple as that: It's an invasion.
Merriam Webster: invasion
noun
in??va??sion | \in-?v?-zh?n
Definition of invasion
1 : an act of invading
especially : incursion of an army for conquest or plunder
2 : the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful
Dictionary.com: invasion
[in-vey-zhuh?n]
noun
1.an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.
2.the entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as disease.
3.entrance as if to take possession or overrun:
the annual invasion of the resort by tourists.
Oxford English Dictionary: invasion
noun
1 An instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.
'Napoleon's disastrous invasion of Russia in 1812'
[mass noun] 'in 1546 England had to be defended from invasion'
1.1 An incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
'there was a brief pitch invasion when Sunderland scored'
1.2 An unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.
'random drug testing of employees is an unwarranted invasion of privacy'
Wikipedia: Invasion (disambiguation)
- An invasion is a military action of soldiers entering a foreign land.
- Invasion or invader may also refer to any act of "going into"
- In archaeology, of prehistoric cultures, see Migrations and invasions in archaeology
- In surgery, the breaching of the skin barrier; see Invasiveness of surgical procedures Invasion (cancer), the spread of cancer to surrounding tissues
- Home invasion, a crime similar to burglary
- Invasive species, an introduced species that has spread widely Introduced species, a widespread introduced species
- Infestation of pests (insects, spiders, etc.), in an undesired location
- Alien invasion, an imaginary or theoretical invasion by extraterrestrials
So why the rank dishonesty grb?
What I think, Brett, is the same thing will happen as with the last "caravan" : The numbers will thin, mile by mile, and what reaches the border will be a few hundred scraggly refugees, easily handled by normal border enforcement. Fifteen thousand troops armed for combat (one number thrown out pre-election by Trump) will not be required. Live fire against these refugees (something else suggested by Trump pre-election), will not be needed.
What I further think, Brett, is you can't be so stupid, fanatical, or delusional as to not see the truth of this, however much you want to excuse the rantings of your god-king.
Every day the governments of despotic regimes tell lies so obvious it's clear they don't care whether they're believable or not. In the past I wondered how the citizens of these countries feel, living under leaders who have a contempt for truth itself. Now I know, huh? The very first thing Trump did as president was lie about the size of his inauguration crowd, and then insist on that trivial imbecilic lie even after photos made the truth obvious. The gushing sewer of untruth hasn't let up a second since : Big lies, little lies, petty lies, malicious lies. Lies on weighty matters of state. Lies so insignificant it's baffling why Trump even bothered.
And Trump's supporters willingly play the fool, lie by lie. They must know better. Where's their self-respect?
You idiot. The photos to which you refer, were taken at 10:30 am. 3.5 hours before Trump's arrival.
Trump's message hit home, the mob broke up afterwards.
A liar calling out a liar. Circle jerk of words.
I'm just saying he answered the question. He didn't like the answer and went off. Not the place for that. Take the answer and go vent on Twitter or wherever activists like Acosta go to screech.
I concede that's a legitimate point. The only thing which holds me back, O Monocled One, is that we've reached black-is-white territory here. All politicians lie - without question - but this caravan stuff is Third-World-grade banana-republic-style egregious. If the president of the United States is going to peddle huckster trash, I think an aggressive response from the people questioning him is excusable.
And then what happens? The White House tries to smear the reporter in question with a crudely doctored video. You can't predict something that bizarre would happen, but given the ethics of this administration, who is surprised when it does?
In case you're not keeping up :
(1) Trump lies about the "danger" from a ragged group of refugees. It terms of hysterical nonsense, it's off the charts.
(2) A reporter calls him out on this Baghdad-Bob-grade drivel. Trump throws a hissy and does everything except hold his breath and turn blue.
(3) In order to make this about the reporter, the White House releases a video of Acosta's supposed-bad behavior. But, of course, the video itself is just another lie. It's been doctored with sections of moment duplicated and spliced into the flow, while other parts of the video were artificially slowed.
So, Trump tells a grade-school-level lie, then the White House peddles a crude lie while defending Trump on the first lie. It's like Orwell crossed with Bozo the Clown. How can Trump's supporters accept such a grotesque mix of dishonesty and incompetence?
Robby...just...stop.
Jim Acosta has spent this entire Administration repeatedly ignoring the protocol every other WH reporter adheres to--in place as much for order and fairness to the other reporters as for anything else, and which Trump certainly did not invent--in order to draw attention to himself and cast himself as the brave reporter who really socked it to Trump and would not be stopped or silenced in the quest to speak truth to power. (Instead of, you know, relying on the quality of his questions.) MSNBC, everyone else, does not think the rules do not apply to them. They are probably seething and rolling their eyes every time he pulls this stunt. Like interrupting to yell questions at Trump and Kim Jong Un during the moment when they are signing the accord. Nobody else was interrupting the ceremony like that.
...Now the WH has had enough. It's not like he hasn't been warned before, repeatedly, for two years. They have not banned CNN; they have banned Acosta for being unruly and not following the rules everyone else had thought applied to them for as long as these things have been going on in any Administration.
Certainly not. Good thing they didn't. So the mask is off--you do believe CNN's spin? Weasel bullshit.
He's had two years of warnings to act like an adult like everyone else in the room friend or foe. Even if you would've chosen a different consequence schedule had you been running the WH, ridiculous to get all righteous about the decision like there is some sort of principle at stake.
Apparently Trump 'can't take the heat'.
No. He can't take the stupid.
Wrong again, wingnut. Trump takes the stupid, and builds it into a political base.
That's a true statement. Trump's popularity is largely a reaction to Lefty retardation.
Tom, you're on a roll. Go with it...
I'm a counter-puncher. The Rev flails wonderfully.
"This unprecedented decision is a threat to our democracy and the country deserves better," said CNN
Ugh, this shit is tedious and tiresome. . .
Also, no it is not. Trump held a pretty long press conference and answered dozens of questions. Dispute the validity of the answers as much as you want. But 1A has to do with this situation.
Acosta acts like a child. He has no right to be a member of the White House press. He should actlike an adult. Fuck him. Keep him suspended. It's not an assault on the media. There is no requirement for press access to the White house. Trump.has more open access than any previous president.
And yes Acosta did push the interns arm back. She was just doing her job. Trump runs the White House press conferences, not baby Acosta.
Unwanted physical contact is generally not considered assault.
It's battery.
Seriously so this excuses the behavior? Please Perry Mason tell me what gives this turd the right to do that?
I suspect that he was making the point that Acosta actually committed a more serious crime than simple "assault".
I didn't use assault in association with Acosta touching the intern.
Swing and miss: assault only. Swing and connect: assault & battery
Push an intern's arm down to keep the mic: jerk
Sorry for not being super clear guys. I'm not making excuses for anyone.
I was riffing on Rico's "it wasn't assault" argument to note that it was actually a different offense - battery - aka unlawful touching.
Which, if one were libertarian, should not cause one to rise to the culprits defense.
Non aggression policy and all that...
Exactly, Reason's libertarians are frauds carrying the progressive water bucket. That's why it is a failing enterprise.
Wait, I thought it was rape.
It can be credibly described as attempted rape
OK, I laughed.
"Acosta rudely rebuffed the poor woman, moving the mic away from her as if they were playing high stakes keep-away."
Not accurate. With the hand he is not using to hold the mic, Acosta clearly presses down on her elbow trying to break her hold on the mic.
I hope Trump gets a giant man to be the microphone intern and he yanks the mic and Acosta's hand off with it.
Trump has enough contacts in the hip-hop community (even if only Kanye will admit it anymore) that he can certainly get an inside line on one of those giant Samoan motherfuckers they are always using. (He also has enough mob contacts to obtain far less gentlemanly enforcers, but that might bring a bit of heat nowadays from the Democratic House.)
That would be sweet. But who would mop up Acosta's piss puddle?
Really regretting your employment choices lately eh Suave?
Weak sauce defense of Acosta ain't gonna get you your ticket out.
Trump actually came off looking better than Acosta in that exchange even before the co-ed grabass at the end. And that's saying something.
The White House Press Corps has been a joke for years and our news gathering infrastructure has changed so significantly since its inception, so I'm not sure who outside the bubble cares that it even still exists.
Under current precepts, he committed a sexual assault.
The intern DID NOT consent to his touching.
End of story, guilty.
In this age of SJW, Acost doing anything but promptly committing suicide is considered assault, possibly rape, and means that he can never have a job again because he's a racist.
Btw, forgot to mention it above... Robby, you're a fucking retard.
#believeallwomen #exceptthosedisgustingrightwingsluts
#orangemanbad
#impeachNOW!
Well shit. Lovecon is about bust his nut. Ginsburg is in the hospital.
Oh Jesus. Hope she's OK. Everyone always talks about how healthy and fit she is, but sometimes there's only so much you can do.
3 broken ribs.
Might sound relatively minor to most, but at her age that can quickly lead to pneumonia, which can then turn fatal.
Hospitalization was probably the smart thing to do.
Yeah, when I first saw the headline I just about elt out a Squee! Then I read, and it doesn't sound serious. She didn't even go in until the next day...
But as you say, at her age, any minor thing can tip somebody over the edge.
There is nothing my heart would like more than to see the liberal tears that would come from him appointing ANOTHER supreme court judge THIS SOON. Would be so epic!
Short hospitalization if you want her to actually live.
Unable to breathe properly and stuck in a hospital sounds like a recipe for antibiotic resistant pneumonia to me.
In general, yes. And the longer she stays the worse her prognosis gets.
After people above 80 start falling, they never fully recover.
Its just a sign of physical deterioration.
She should not be traveling to work every day and falling on hard concrete government building floors. It an unnecessary risk to her health.
She is a fool.
Yup. There's no way she's probably going to make it even until 2020. She might as well retire and get it all over with, and actually enjoy a year or two of kicking back in her rocking chair. Not to mention Trump will probably will reelection anyway... And she DEFINITELY isn't going to live until 2024.
Anyone researched what would have been covered if she had Obamacare like the serfs?
Interesting. I guess that's what happens when 100 million atheist libtards pray for her to live forever.
Do you believe fairy tales are true, Tom Bombadil?
If you are 12 or younger, your answer will not be held against you, especially if you have been subjected to childhood indoctrination.
I dunno about Tom, but I am not especially religious, myself.
I believe in neither fairy tales, nor epic Quests. Are you kidding? The One Ring of Power was a mere knick knack in my hands.
Do you believe fairy tales are true, Tom Bombadil?
My favorite fairy tale is the one in which the enlightened ones transform our society so the government provides for all our needs and wants so that everyone can live happily ever after, and now I believe it can come true since all that is needed is to neutron bomb all the relatives bitter clingers people that abused educated the Rev whilst growing up
Is this where I link you to various left wing sites celebrating scalias death?
We're already on it, Person.
Glad you recognize!
Trump is going to replace RBG in the SCOTUS. Hahaha.
Acosta was behaving terribly unprofessionally in trying to ask three or four questions beyond his turn, not to mention that his invasion question was inane. Preventing the intern from taking back the microphone was the action of a spoiled brat child, not a responsible adult.
Acosta was not banned for being critical, he was banned for not following protocol and being generally unprofessional.
No kidding. In the private sector, that sort of behavior usually results in at least a disciplinary action, often firing.
Except in show business, I suppose, which is Acosta's real profession.
I am quite certain that the same people now who are cheering Trump for kicking out CNN reporters and bashing the press as "the enemy of the people", will politely accept the result when President Elizabeth Warren takes Trump's precedent and goes even further and decides to ban all Fox News reporters from the White House. Right? Right?
For as much as people around here complain about the media, guess what, most of our info and knowledge of what happens in government comes from that very same media. If CNN, WaPo, NYT, etc., etc., were to all go away, how would we know what the government is up to? Rely on government press releases? Ultimately it is up to the people to keep the government honest, but we can't do that if we don't even know what the government is up to. It was the fkn NYT that broke the story of Hillary's private email server which was, I think it's safe to say, the singular story that doomed her campaign. If it wasn't for the NYT, Hillary would be president today. Think about that for a moment.
Just as you rightly take Trump-deranged critics to task for never appreciating the good things Trump has done, perhaps the media-deranged critics should put down their pitchforks for a moment and ponder how they expect to figure out what the state is really up to if their enemies were actually all defeated.
ban all Fox News reporters from the White House.
Meh, not a 1A violation.
President Elizabeth Warren
I am pretty sure Liz of the Fauxhicans will never be president. Good one, though.
Which FNC reporter will spend 2 years being a preening asshat, making speeches instead of asking questions, and taking up other reporter's time?
Ed Henry? He was elected by his peers as head of their Association
Uh.... this already happened.
When Obama came into office they banned Fox from the press pool, saying Fox wasn't a real news organization. (yet credentialing leftist bloggers).
So we don't really have to speculate. The Obama white house didn't even have a reasonable cause.. they just didn't like the political leanings of the Fox News editorial content (Hannity, et. al.). And the Right didn't like it, not one little bit. They were very critical of the White House for excluding Fox.
Meanwhile, I really don't think asking Trump if he's a racist 20 different ways is "telling us what the government is up to". It is partisan water-carrying.
And at the same time, it obfuscates the actual issues that Trump needs to be excoriated for.
Youre a fucking ignorant twat Jeff. Let us know when trump issues search warrants on reporters.
Didn't Big O jail a few for not revealing sources?
goes even further and decides to ban all Fox News reporters from the White House.
Obama actually tried this already, is your memory really this short?
For jeff, history of presidential shenanigans started on November 2, 2016.
Trump was probably looking for a confrontation. Otherwise, why did the first question go to Acosta, known to be combative. It's just part of Trump's script.
CNN dances when Trump says dance
It is hilarious how they're so stupid they play into his hand EVERY FRIGGIN' TIME. He knows they're going to lie/spin anyway, so he just winds them up, and makes them look like dicks. NPCs buy the spin, and his supporters and lots of normal people just shake their heads at whatever MSM person he is trolling at the time.
"Trump for kicking out CNN reporters"
Please list the CNN reporters (plural) that Trump has kicked out of the press pool.
From what I"ve seen, Trump is excluding a single, specific person, for specific cause.
In the same scenario, I would support Warren doing the same thing.
Next question.
"If CNN, WaPo, NYT, etc., etc., were to all go away, how would we know what the government is up to? "
Lighten up, Francis. You are talking about the single most transparent President in my (long) lifetime.
BELIEVE THE WOMAN!
Not Jim Acosta's press conference, not Jim Acosta's microphone, not Jim Acosta's right to monopolize either, even if he was rudely cut off by our borish President. The simple fact of the matter is that the President is under no obligation to answer any questions from the press. Respect the office, even if you don't respect the man. Perhaps Mr. Acosta should change his tactics if he's having such a difficult time cajoling answers out of Trump. After all, it's his job to find effective ways to elicit answers, not become the news story himself.
If we look at the incident from a strictly technical perspective, the intern was attempting to recover property (unclear whose property, though, even if not government furnished, likely on informal bailment to the president for the purposes of the press conference) at the behest of the person who had authority over its disposition at the time.
I do find it incredibly inappropriate and petty to revoke his press pass over the whole ordeal though.
Why inappropriate?
Acosta was abusing protocol and acting like a spoiled brat. This has been something he has done regularly during the Trump administration though this has been the most egregious example.
He has previously received both oral and written warnings. It's right there in his personnel file. Just ask HR.
Outside of airport terminals, does anyone actually watch CNN?
I would not watch them in my sox,
I would not watch them with a fox.
I would not watch CNN,
I would not watch them Jim I am (not)
Fainting Daisy chem Jeff appears to sprinkle cnn into his diet of msnbc.
The senior writers at Reason have been all over Trump for his "war on the media" comments over the last month or so. Yesterday's press conference was a perfect example of why you guys have it completely backwards.
(insert Soave-esque qualifiers about #NotATrumpSupporter, etc. here)
Here was a room filled with people who have worked hard to reach the top of their profession. Getting the White House reporter gig at any media outlet is a big deal. Getting the chance to interview the MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD (tm) is a big deal.
So what did they do? Did they ask about any one of a dozen wars? No. Did they ask about any big pending legislative items? Or about various deregulatory efforts? No and no.
Instead, given their big chance on the national and international stage, they played partisan "gotcha" games. One reporter after the next asked variations of "have you stopped beating your wife?" And finally after Trump called out two reporters in a row for that sort of thing, the guy from YahooNews gets up and starts asking about what some rap artist claimed (many months ago) that Trump said while on "The Apprentice" a couple of decades ago. And what was alleged wasn't even anything worth discussing. So Trump called him out for it.
Then the very next guy asks the same sort of question.
This is how you know "The Press" writ large has completely abandoned their role as the 4th estate.
There was as near as makes no difference zero members of the US press who were at all interested in finding out what the president's views or plans were on any important policy issues. They wanted to play "gotcha" or stir up controversy by insisting that he answer the question "how long do you plan on keeping your press secretary?" I mean, really? Not one reporter asks a follow-up question of Obama in 8 years in office plus 2 years of campaigning, but you are going to take 4 follow-up questions to insist that Trump give you a timeline for when he plans to fire his press secretary? That's not just biased, that's incompetent, stupid and biased.
We had to wait for the foreign press to speak before getting anything of substance that would actually help people understand what their government is doing. (And even then, the reporter from Lebanon asked something about Turkey that was so far out of left field that Trump had no idea what to say to it, so we still learned nothing).
For 8 years under Obama we had (rare) scripted press conferences where the press were given which questions would be asked, by who and in what order. "today we will be focusing on healthcare. Tony, you'll get the first question on pre-existing conditions. Bob, you'll get the second question on premiums."
I know this because of a magic thing called C-SPAN, where sometimes you can catch the pre-conference prep session with the press secretary and the press. I was able to watch the sausage being made.
But now nobody is going with "here, ask Trump a question about the south American invasion". Instead it is "Please answer this loaded and dishonest question in a way that I can cut up to make you look bad".
It is an embarrassment for the journalism profession that this is what we have in Washington right now. And it is just as embarrassing that our "everyone else is wrong" libertarian writers have decided that press solidarity is more important than press criticism.
That press conference was disgraceful, and everyone who considers themselves a journalist should be embarrassed for the profession. And no, Trump being a doofus is no excuse. The way you handle a doofus is to give them enough rope to hang themselves. Just do the job and he'll take care of the embarrassing quote part without any need for a push from the media.
^All of this^ X 1,000,000
Not a Trump supporter, didn't vote for him in '16 (or Hillary), not currently planning on voting for him in 2020, but these assholes are starting to make me hope he wins just to watch them go into total meltdown. At this point, I'm just in it for the schadenfreude.
Amen!
They are not reporters or journalists.
Theyre propaganadists.
Trump knows this and treats the media as such.
Very true - especially the rope bit.
It blows my mind how a class of people who are supposed to bring perspective and be intelligence for us rubes don't get this.
DO YOU JOB and if Trump is as bad as you say he is, he'll confirm it in due time.
But nope. They choose this route and play right into his hands. In the process, it's not Trump that looks like an idiot to the astute observer. It's the journalists acting like Acosta - and even those defending him.
Let's take it down a notch, CNN. Revoking one of your reporter's press credentials is not a "threat to our democracy." Is there anything that isn't a "threat to our democracy" according to those pinheads?
Although it does provide a window into CNN's thinking: they seem to actually believe that if Jim Acosta is unable to bogart the mic and grandstand at a white house press conference that somehow all of us brainless peons will be unable to make informed voting decisions. That might be the the most idiotic thing I've ever seen. That's beyond Tony level stupid.
Actually, in the video Acosta does push the intern's hand away with his left hand. Perhaps Sanders should have said "pacing his hand" - singular - on the intern instead, but he definitely initiated physical contact with her as she was trying to reach for the mic.
Whether that's enough to cross the line into "assault" or not I don't know, but it definitely means that Jim Acosta is a grand standing asshole, and no reporter has a right to a White House press credential. They're well within their rights to revoke those credentials to grand standing assholes. There's plenty more grand standing assholes in that room anyway. You could say it's grand standing assholes all the way down.
"First, Trump berated Acosta for daring to question the president's characterization of the migrant caravan as an invasion. ""I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN," said Trump. "And if you did it well, your ratings would be much better."
No. First Trump replied that it was a difference of opinion as to whether it was an invasion. Then Acosta asked if, by characterizing it as such, was Trump demonizing immigrants - to which Trump replied that we need immigrants but that there was a process for immigration. As Acosta persisted, implying that campaign ads featuring illegals "climbing over walls" might be staged and that the 'caravans' were 100s of miles away so not an invasion, Trump made the stated quote.
As Acosta persisted, attempting to ask the 'collusion' question, Acosta was told to put down his mic so Trump could take someone else's question. Acosta still persisted as the aide attempted to grab the mic (presumably her job). Acosta, inadvertently or via knee jerk reaction, delivered what looked like a mild karate chop to the inside of her left elbow - not assault but certainly enough to trigger all kinds of accusations had a male aide of Trump's done the same thing with a female reporter.
Tell you what, the next time you are on the White House tour and a guide tries to shoo you into the next room you commit 'not assault' by pushing his or her hands away from you.
Then see what happens next.
Why the Hell should reporters get any different treatment? Who gave them privilege?
It was Reason that called it assault, not Sanders. She said placing his hands on the intern.
Strictly, Sanders was incorrect. He only placed one hand on the intern. Acosta was holding the mike in his left hand, and had his left arm raised to do some finger wagging at the President. After two unsuccessful grabs towards the mike over Acosta's left arm (which he defeated by moving the mike away) the intern made a third grab under his raised left arm. Acosta moved his left arm downwards, pushing her left arm down with physical contact on her left bicep. In the meantime she had managed to get her left hand onto a mixture of the mike and Acosta's right hand. Acosta's little downward push on her left arm successfuly forced her left hand off the mike.
So Robby's "moving the mic away from her as if they were playing high stakes keep-away" was an accurate description of the intern's first two grabs, but an inaccurate descriiption of the third grab, in which Acosta used actual physical force, making contact with the intern's left bicep and pushing her arm down. The use of force was tiny, but effective.
We now now how to rate Robby's talents as a witness.
Sorry
Acosta was holding the mike in his RIGHT hand, and had his left arm raised to do some finger wagging at the President.
Its called battery Lee. If the intern does not consider it serious to press charges, then so be it.
She was grabbing the mic. Acosta touched her.
He was Accosted...that much is certain.
Got to this point, looked at the byline - sure as shit, it was Soave.
This unprecedented decision is a threat to our democracy and the country deserves better,
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*Correction*: ...Huckabee shared she *felt* like Acosta laid his hands on the intern. Basically the same thing, feelings and all...
Fuck off Robbie!
Trump is AWESOME for having the balls to fuck with these arrogant reporters right back.
They have the nerve to go on national television, or write their big articles in the NYTs, and outright LIE, selectively edit video clips, take quotes out of context, etc. They're doing it solely to push a political agenda.
They're NOT real reporters... They're propagandists. So fuck these people.
ALSO, if Trump was really cool, and ACTUALLY hostile to the press... He should have had the Secret Service taser his ass when he got all uppity!
I mean why not? The ratings would have been AWESOME!
Real journalists or reporters would want a follow up question to ask why Trump thinks immigrants are "invaders".
That is what reasonable people do in civil discourse.
Acosta refuses to give up the mic and the Acosta's the intern with a hand chop to the inner elbow.
Trump should have awarded him a Nazi Iron Cross, like FDR did.
The United States Government owns the microphone, not Acosta. If he is asked to give up the mike, he has a responsibility to give up the mike.
"The United States Government owns the microphone, not Acosta. If he is asked to give up the mike, he has a responsibility to give up the mike."
Approximate number of people who are arguing the other side of THAT argument: 0.
LOL, Trump is like a bad substitute teacher who has lost control of the classroom. The reporters are acting like middle schoolers trolling the teacher.
Wow. Far too many Trump/Sanders supporters in the comments here. It's little wonder to me why the Libertarian party consistently fails in the majority of elections. It's not the candidates' fault; it's their supporters who are batshit insane.
"The libertarian rank and file are batshit insane"
Why are you even here?
She probably followed the link from facebook where she was outraged to find that there are people who comment on Reason's articles that disagree with her much more enlightened and intelligent opinions.
New trolls are fun.
They come here and have no idea how to handle discussions.
Remember the good old days when reporters reported the news and weren't the actual news themselves?
Just some lame dude who read the news/what happened, and then said good night.
That was a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, time ago....
Was that ever?
They might have simply read the news but still picked stories that furthered the narrative.
The US media avoiding US successes during the tet offensive and pushing the narrative that the war was lost is a famous example.
*not that the Vietnam was was 'winnable' by the USA.
Here is the reality folks. President Trump was humble and pointed out the victories the Republicans had with Mid-terms. Nothing more than the Democrats take credit for their wins. But I will tell you, Jim Acosta, what a buffoon. It not just this event with the intern. He is so disrespectful, rude and is just grandstanding in every press conference. He should lose his credentials because his behavior, period! I want to hear more questions and answers instead of him and other press members projecting their view on the president and pissed he doesn't share them.
You can argue all day long if it was assault on the intern that I would not agree with, however there is no doubt he pushed her away and pulled the microphone back. I think he pulled back once he realized what he was doing, so I see no intent. But come on Mr. Acosta and those of you who will blame Trump for anything and everything including your own stupidity. Own something and recognize a lot people don't share your views and they never will. Civility, well the press should take a look in the mirror! Including the guy who wrote this piece!
It absolutely was both an Assault and a Battery. Any honest objective attorney would tell you that. Injury does not have to occur. Jim Accosta Intentionally Touched Another Without Consent. That is a Battery. He did so in order to keep her from taking the microphone. That is an Assault. Regardless of your views on Accosta or CNN - He used force to move her hand off the microphone. Anyone who views the video and says otherwise is clearly and intentionally lying.
Trump could teach the press core a good lesson about social justice by making sure each journalist/reporter in the country only gets to ask him one question and then they are moved to the back of the national queue.
... and then make them ride in the back of the bus?
I'm absolutely thrilled and delighted that Acosta has finally had his White House press pass revoked.
Jim Acosta of CNN has been nothing but chronically and disgustingly rude.
This last time Acosta arrogantly pushed aside a White House aid when she tried to get him to give up the microphone. Good Riddance, Acosta!
Who cares. He is a rude, narcissistic prick that should be permanently banned. Acosta is reprehensible.
It was both assault and theft.
Why does this rag continue to decline into third rate shitpaper?
Its run by anarchists trying to sabotage any Libertarian or GOP recovery of the USA.
What would normally be considered rude is simply self-defense on the part of the press covering this administration. Trump should be impeached and hung from the Capitol dome.
Being in the White House press corps is not a right, it is a privilege. A privilege Acosta, and others, have abused repeatedly. He earned his ban, and he should be the first of several banned. On the bright side, that means room for other news outlets to have their reporters ask questions.
He's right, touching someone is battery.
Acosta is known for his grandstanding in this sort of media event. A journalist should report on the story, not become a part of it. He's broken that rule repeatedly.
He went to a Trump rally and reported the crowd's general hostility to CNN as a threat to his own safety, even though he was photographed shaking hands with attendees.
a good example of why you guys call yourselves "Reason"
There may be debate over the appropriateness of the actions of the White House in pulling Acosta's credentials, and whether his contact with the female intern constitutes assault or battery.
But don't try to say there was no contact. The video makes clear there was, and it was avoidable, if Acosta had demonstrated even the slightest amount of professionalism.
Instead, his actions are an example of how not to behave if you asked any small child. At best, he's no better than Trump. But his behaviour yesterday was worse.
What Trump should have said is this: To paraphrase Ronaald Reagan, "Mr. Acosta, we paid for this Mike. Give it to the young lady."
What Trump should have said is this: To paraphrase Ronaald Reagan, "Mr. Acosta, we paid for this Mike. Give it to the young lady."
'Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders accused Acosta of "placing his hands" on the intern. You can watch the video for yourself: It's clear that nothing of the sort happened. Acosta might have embarrassed the poor woman, but he didn't assault her.'
Huckabee never claimed he assaulted her. Christ, address the actual fact of what she said.
I always wonder why the WH evidently does not have the technology necessary to turn off a microphone.
Ask your question, and then the mike goes off until the next called on reporter has the mike in hand.
Accosting Acosta only accost girls, he fight only with girls.
And yes he did wrestle her because that's what he does, fight with girls. The lady was doing her job in her place of work, the job she was assigned to do. She's also a US Gov employee in US Gov property. All of the others journalists there behaved and cooperated with her. Acosta was the only one who acted like a jerk because a jerk he is. He was in US Gov property, the microphone also is US Gov. property the he must surrender as soon as order to do so. He did not pay for that mic, is not his, neither is CNN's property. There is no Constitutional, law, regulation, or rule that mandates the POTUS to do press conferences. And BTW journalism and journalists are just another basket weaving and social dancing job. Journalism is particular is the most social dancing of them all.
Unwanted Touching CAN be an assault......isn't that what the Feminists tell us?
First, Trump berated Acosta for daring to question the president's characterization of the migrant caravan as an invasion. "I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN," said Trump. "And if you did it well, your ratings would be much better."
That's simply not fair. You should be ashamed of yourself. I am no Trumpster, but I try to evaluate him fairly. My assessment is that the's an ass...but with some policies I support. Trump also said "You and I have a difference of opinion." He acknowledged Acosta's right to differ. Your statement implies that it is wrong to berate idiots like Acosta when they are wrong. Nothing could be further from the truth or any less American.
Seek some help for your TDS.
First, Trump berated Acosta for daring to question the president's characterization of the migrant caravan as an invasion. "I think you should let me run the country, you run CNN," said Trump. "And if you did it well, your ratings would be much better."
That's simply not fair. You should be ashamed of yourself. I am no Trumpster, but I try to evaluate him fairly. My assessment is that the's an ass...but with some policies I support. Trump also said "You and I have a difference of opinion." He acknowledged Acosta's right to differ. Your statement implies that it is wrong to berate idiots like Acosta when they are wrong. Nothing could be further from the truth or any less American.
Seek some help for your TDS.
The White House upped the ante significantly. Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders accused Acosta of "placing his hands" on the intern. You can watch the video for yourself: It's clear that nothing of the sort happened. Acosta might have embarrassed the poor woman, but he didn't assault her.
That is completely false. Perhaps you should get an eye exam while being treated for TDS. This is the sequence.
1. Acosta was told to return the White House's microphone to a representative of it's owner.
2. Acosta refused that legitimate request, held onto the microphone with his right hand.
3. With his left hand, he absolutely initiated contact with the back of his hand to try and push away her legitimate attempt to retrieve the microphone as instructed by the owner.
You really see nothing wrong with that?
The press as a whole continues to defend this guy but isn't it about time for everyone to come to grips with the concept that he is an a**hole? Ask a real question (a question, not a challenge), then move on. The question can be as tough as you think necessary, but keep it simple and don't be a jerk.
"Trump berated Acosta for daring to question the president's characterization of the migrant caravan as an invasion."
OR...you could report what the President actually said, which was, "I see it as an invasion. You don't. We have a difference of opinion." Acosta might not like that answer, but it is an answer. Acosta kept repeating himself like a petulant schoolchild, not getting what he wants, which clearly is for the President to break down and admit in tears, "Ya got me, Jim: it's cuz I'm a racist, Jim!"
"Acosta might have embarrassed the poor woman, but he didn't assault her."
In the parlance of saner times, I would agree that Acosta's physical contact with the intern does not signify assault. The Left, however, has spent several years hyperbolizing the language, so I am happily willing to concede that by their own yardstick, Acosta's behavior borders on rape.
"...the administration certainly shouldn't banish reporters for being critical."
I agree. Of course, that statement suggests that Acosta was banished "for being critical." Were the White House doing anything of the sort, the press room would be empty. His credentials were revoked for being argumentative, rude, unprofessional, and combative, not the role of a seasoned journalist, but one of a pugnacious dick eager to assert his own Q rating above all else. This was not a one-off: Acosta has been warned in the past. This was simply the culmination of putting up with his degeneracy for so long.
If Acosta did not hit the intern, and if, as his media allies claim, he is the victim of the interns mic bullying, why isn't ANYONE in the media naming the intern as the culprit? I cannot find her name anywhere. Even the CNN lawsuit complaint filed with the court against the White House does not name her as a defendant, and even only calls her a "staffer" in the complaint.
The reason, of course, is they ALL know that she is the victim of battery under the law, as well as workplace intimidation by Acosta. Media rules, as well as law in many states, prohibits the disclosure of the names of female victims of violence. If a media outlet named her, they would become the new target of the White House for endangering a crime victim.
If this was not true, the media would be making this girl a star. The papprazzi would be all over her (because she's attractive as well) and BLM and Antifa would be making her life miserable. You know it's true.