The Trump Administration Is a Sinkhole of Sleaze
Donald Trump has an instinct for finding and empowering scam artists, spongers, and thugs.
The State Dining Room in the White House is adorned with a quotation from John Adams: "May none but Honest and Wise Men ever rule under This Roof." His wish has often gone unfulfilled.
"Under Grant's two administrations, there flapped through the national capital a whole phantasmagoria of insolent fraud," wrote Edmund Wilson in his book Patriotic Gore. Americans who remember nothing else about Warren G. Harding can name the scandal that engulfed his administration: Teapot Dome. Richard Nixon resigned for crimes that would have gotten him prison time had he not been pardoned.
But champions of these tainted presidents can take heart. Since Jan. 20, 2017, Americans have seen an endless torrent of corruption beyond anything previously imagined. No president has ever had a surer instinct than Donald Trump for finding and empowering scam artists, spongers, and thugs.
As a candidate, he promised, "I'll choose the best people for my administration." Maybe he inadvertently omitted the word "not." Looking for the best people in Trump's circle would be like looking for icebergs in the Everglades.
Three Trump associates—Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, and Rick Gates—have pleaded guilty to charges of lying to investigators. Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price was brought down by his habit of using private jets and military planes for travel. EPA chief Scott Pruitt resigned over a raft of shameless ethical offenses.
Trump's first staff secretary, Rob Porter, and his first nominee for labor secretary, Andrew Puzder, withdrew after revelations that their ex-wives had accused them of violent abuse. But this is a president, keep in mind, whose first wife accused him of rape.
The trial of his former campaign manager has provided more evidence of Trump's sure instinct for compulsive shysters. Paul Manafort was indicted for allegedly laundering millions of dollars in income and evading taxes. Gates, Manafort's former aide and Trump's deputy campaign chairman, testified this week that he helped Manafort commit those crimes.
Manafort stands out for his peculiar shopping proclivities. Among his more ridiculous outlays was more than $1.3 million in men's apparel, including a $15,000 ostrich-skin jacket that most men would not wear if you paid them $15,000. Gates admitted he embezzled from his former boss, which suggests that Manafort was no better at finding honest help than Trump is.
You could hardly surround yourself with so many disreputable figures as the president has unless you opened a halfway house for felons. But his preference for the shady sort is what you'd expect of someone whose business career has been a chronicle of bankruptcy, bullying, and deceit.
After vowing never to settle a lawsuit filed by Trump University students who said they had been scammed, he agreed to pay $25 million to bring it to an end. His lawyer Michael Cohen paid porn actress Stormy Daniels $130,000 not to share her story of having sex with Trump. Cohen is under investigation by a federal prosecutor on an array of possible crimes.
Flying under this cluttered radar is Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who just settled one of a string of lawsuits by business associates charging that he stole from them. Forbes magazine found that "these allegations—which sparked lawsuits, reimbursements and an SEC fine—come to more than $120 million. If even half of the accusations are legitimate, the current United States secretary of commerce could rank among the biggest grifters in American history."
In June, the New York attorney general sued the Donald J. Trump Foundation, accusing it of "sweeping violations of campaign finance laws, self-dealing and illegal coordination with the presidential campaign," as The New York Times reported.
Among the alleged offenses was using charitable funds to settle lawsuits and buy portraits of Trump. The foundation earlier paid a fine for an illegal campaign contribution.
Marc Owens, who previously was director of the tax-exempt organization division of the IRS, told CNN, "The Trump Foundation may be unique in the variety and scope of its transgressions of state and federal law." He added, "In my opinion, there are no effective defenses that Donald Trump and/or his foundation can deploy to either the attorney general's petition or to federal tax charges."
"Unique in the variety and scope of its transgressions." That would do as the motto of an administration that, even if it manages some tangible achievements, will forever be remembered as a sinkhole of sleaze.
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Aw, geeez, this will bringthe conservatard haters out in raging force. Shouting down opposing views has been the compulsion of tyrants for all of human history. And of their obedient puppets. Berkeley students and Trumpsters, a match made in hell. The prog and Trump candidates were both humiliated in Tuesday's elections, but is it too late?
Left - Right = Zero
*poop emoji*
Give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything.
He asks for seconds too.
I win again!
"Both"
Left - Right = Zero
Independents rising!
No one has ever gone broke underestimating the independence of Trumpsters and progs.
Is anything more childish than "poop" jokes?
Is anything more childish than "poop" jokes?
Trolling us under ten different user names, Mary Stack of 8113 Sun Meadows Court, Fort Worth, Texas 76123?
Looks like a Hinfection.
Wow, that's a Golden Oldie.
Is she really still here?
Who called that David Nolan was Hihn?
Someone on here called that, IIRC.
Wow, Hihn is Kevin Durant.
I win AGAIN again!
Left - Right = Zero
Independents rising!
Watching them debate whether I'm "really" .... Hhn ... or Mary Stack ... or Kevin Durant
THE DEEP STATE! (LOL)
MOAR slap-downs coming???
Ok Cathy.
And it's just too bad Ron Paul wasn't the president. But Rand will be, after trumps eight years are finished
Rand? Not if he fucks up as massively as 2016.
Yep, Rand is America's greatest hope. After Trump finishes MAGA, Rand can come in as a true libertarian, just like his father, and turn America libertarian.
By banning gay marriage? And sponsoring a bill that forbids SCOTUS any say in the matter?
No surprise that the alt-right think the Rand's are libertarian, since Ron's their founder.
But that fraud of their "liberty coalition" was proven by Rand's massive fuckup in 2016,
He got a standing ovation at Berkeley, on non-intervention. But less than a week later, he called for "nationwide tent revivals" to protest the "severe threat" of ... marriage equality.
Only the Paulista cult thnks libertarianism can combine he civil libertarian left with the Christian Taliban. It was Barry Goldwater who said the "Moral Majority" was a grave threat to his party, but he got only half of it, missed the anti-gummint mentality, the same combination that destroyed the libertarian movement,
Since Shirlord means bigot, that's a great fit for you.
Lol. Hihn gave himself away with his famous equation.
That equation has been a libertarian standard for over 40 years, You lose
Again.
It goes with these
1) "Left and right are obsolete"
2) "Republicans want government out of your wallet and into your bedroom.
Democrats want government out of your bedroom and into your wallet.
ONLY libertarians DEFY government intrusion into BOTH economic and personal issues."
A growing majority of Americans agree, and now SELF-define as fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Crawl out of your tribal cave, into the light.
Time to get David Nolan's account purged too
Says the right-wing snowflake,
PROUD be a censor!
We can tolerate PB, we can tolerate Tony, but we will not tolerate you Hihn.
You will go bye bye again soon. And once again all your posts will be purged and there will be nothing left of your ramblings.
You have a Trumptastic day.
Yeah,,,,, All of our candidate's won.. "blue wave" more like urinate.....
No... L+R = ASS/POOP or whatever you want to come up with.
Good to see that The Hihnster found a new alias to write under.
The first and greatest fraud perpetrated onto the American people was the fact Obama convinced so many Americans he wasn't an illegitimate president. I'm sure a lot of people believe he was a natural born citizen but no one has been able to pull a reliable copy of his birth certificate. I consider the obama years presidentless years and in my classroom I actually leave a blank image in the place where Obama's image should be just to show that between the years of 2008 and 2016 there was no president of the united states.
Since Jan. 20, 2017, Americans have seen an endless torrent of corruption beyond anything previously imagined.
James Buchanan was asleep at the wheel when country split in two. I'll look again, but I don't think I saw any mention of Nixon above. Corrupt how? He's made some shitty appointments, I don't agree with half the crap he says, but he never named an Iranian loving Iranian as his senior advisor, and then send Iranians $2 billion of cheddar to only build nukes on the DL.
The money belonged to Iran.
You named one -- a lie -- and Chapman's list is long.
Trump himself told us to not believe a word you say, because you'd even lie to defend him from murder. So the stench of corruption is minor league to his sult.
"Richard Nixon resigned for crimes that would have gotten him prison time had he not been pardoned."
Very obviously false.
As are all invented fairy tales.
What about invented pseudonyms?
Cowardly evasion.by .... AN INVENTED PSEUDONYM!!! OMFG!
(You can't INVENT anyone dumber than Trumptards and Progtards!!!)
"(You can't INVENT anyone dumber than Trumptards and Progtards!!!)"
No one has to. You showed up all on your own, and then proved it.
Fuck off.
>"Richard Nixon resigned for crimes that would have gotten him prison time had he not been pardoned."
Very obviously false.
So ,... Nixon and Ford were both fucking morons, with shitty legal advice.
Thanks for clarifying. But, relevance?.
So if you buy something and I murder you prior to its delivery, I'm owed your refund?
Cool
Zany!
The money belonged to the Iran the current usurpers destroyed.
"The money belonged to Iran."
ANOTHER FUCK UP BY HIHN!
The money belonged to the Shah, the Shah's legitimate government and prominent individuals from Iran. None of it belongs to the illegitimate regime that illegally took power in 1979.
You should just learn to obey.
Money belongs to the people, not the government. It's kinda funny, how crazy you people are.
Trump is PISSED that Obama waived the sanctions ... sanctions created by Obama to force Iran to negotiate ... just like Trump is doing now. (lol)
But unlike Trump the bully, Obama knew that sanctions by the US alone would be meaningless, so he also negotiated our side to include both the entire UN Security Council and the European Union.
Trump, well,. he shits on our allies, and threatens them with sanctions too, because he FAILED to involve them in his ego-maniacal stuint. His base, being ignorant of the entire thing, nods like bobbleheads, because all bullies prefer threats and authoritarianism
The Art of the Squeal. Add this to his fuckup with Kim and Putin.
Are you really defending Obama's leadership in foreign policy, or does your hate blind you?
Stating the known facts. Libertarians oppose them both.. You just proved your own hatred.
Did Iran Government ever compensate the Americans who were held hostage by their government for a year-and-a-half by their "Islamic revolution" in 1979 (where the claimed money dates to)? If I was hostage of a Government for that long, I would expect recompense for that time stolen from my life.
Has the Iranian Government restituted the US for the ransacking of the embassy?
You say a nuclear arms deal is meaningless .... and current vs prior regimes onlu counts when it's con-veeeeeen-yent to yu people.
Many of the assets blocked by Carter in 1979 were unfrozen in 1981 after the signing of the Algiers Accords and the end of the hostage crisis.
Anything else?
So David, the money belonged to Iran? Funny how four Presidents prior to Muslim-loving Obama didn't give a shit if it "belonged" to them or not. Also, if everything was so above-board, why was the money drop kept so secret from Congress and the public? I sometimes wonder how many people, including US soldiers, have died as a result of infusing the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism with a large drop of untraceable cash. I guess you don't give a shit about that. My bet is that Obama made Iran deposit 10's of millions of $ in his untraceable account before the rest of the cash was delivered. This was truly aiding the enemy, for which Obama should have been impeached, removed from office, and possibly tried for treason.
You're full of shit on the time line and kinda stupid. It was after 9/11 and that was Bush2, which is .... ONE President before Obama. Never trust a brainwashed racist Islamaphobe.
Bush never had a deal to cut on nuclear arms. Your priorities are screwed up.
> the money belonged to Iran
Wrong. It was supposed to be paid to Iran under the Shah. A 2011 court decision concluded that the Ayatollahs voided that debt when they seized power.
Read up before commenting, Hihn.
Why the tears? It's wonderful - justice! I only wish the libertarians were able to capitalize on the downfall of the republicans. Instead the benefit is going to centrist dems. Well it could be worse. Let's give it a cycle and see what happens.
Keep dreaming. I've wanted libertarian leaners to FINALLY take over the Republican party since forever... But the Republicans are going nowhere because they're more in touch with most of the country than the Democrats, and 1000x more in touch than purist libertarians, or even Cosmotarians, are.
And by counrty you mean gerrymandered districts.
The progressive hive mind is ever so shallow
Yes it is. Astonishingly shallow.
Which study do you want shoeing gerrymandering effects only a handful of seats? The problem really lying with clustering of democrats in corrupt urban centers. Or do you prefer your ignorance?
Which gerrymandered districts? The Republican ones or the Democrat ones?
I only wish the libertarians were able to capitalize on the downfall of the republicans. Instead the benefit is going to centrist dems.
Johnson/Weld 2016 2020!
Sorry, try again. Pretty much every admin I can remember has ended up with a bunch of shitty appointments who got busted for criminal activity.
As far as things go, Trump himself has actually been one of the least shiesty ones in terms of stuff that matters. He banged a porn star! ZOMG! He's all kinds of fucked up, but who is going to try to pretend Obama, Bush II, Clinton, etc wasn't too? And in worse ways IMO. At least Trump is trying to come through on his campaign promises, even the bad ones! I'll take that over most politicians.
I voted for Gay Jay last time, but I will vote for Trump in 2020 just out of spite at this point.
LEAVE TRUMP ALONE!!! LEAVE HIM ALONE He's the single most honest and most coolest and most humblest and most family value President we've ever had. Even more honest and better looking and with a bigger cock than Richard Nixon. He's just the best and most handsomest ever. I love you, Donald Trump. I may be your biggest fan next to John.
It needs work. A lot of work.
Indeed. For we are not entertained
Calm down, Mrs. Lavender.
He doesnt have the subtlety of OBL, the apparent bigotry of Kirkland, or the batshit insanity of hihn... Just a shitty troll.
Or even the mincing insincerity of Tony
He's got the tediousness of the ninth Hihn-post in a thread--or when you open comments and see 'David Nolan' and sigh because Hihn's thinks he's being 'stealthy'.
Hmmmm......it could BE Hihn. He's just demented enough to think that this looks just like what OBL does.
against 12 aggressions.
Like this one.
Dear Mr. Chapman, EVERY administration is a sinkhole of sleaze. Why do you think (most) of the readership here supports a third party and despises, just absolutely loathes, the Democans and Repuplicrats? (Sorry, but I frequently confuse which one is which.)
^This.
I wonder if Mr. Chapman is one of those "just put the right people in charge" types.
Just read the Chicago Tribune. He is very left leaning.
I'm not surprised that people confuse the two parties especially when on considers that Progressives control the Democratic Party as well as most of the Republican Party establishment. I've also noticed that Progressives are also moving in on the Libertarian Party.
I'm in your hands and it's totally agree with you I've noticed like that FlameCCT
Exactly. When you ask why Lefties would want to be hanging with Libertarians, one reason is to sabotage the Libertarian movement from the inside out.
This strategy worked with the GOP and how many RINOs have infiltrated that party. Lefties who cannot get elected in Red areas, say that they are Republicans and get elected. They they vote to further Lefty agendas at every turn.
The GOP has never kicked out a RINO out of the GOP, that I have ever heard.
In politics, the ability to win is the most prized "virtue". If you win, you get to pick what letter you want next to your name.
Chapman ignored another Trumpian fault, and that is utter cheap-skate-ishness.
Trump paid a mere $130 K to Stormy Daniels!!! The going rate is MUCH higher!!!!
See http://reason.com/blog/2016/03.....nt_5994639 ? About Hooker Hulk Hogan? "Hooker Hulk" gets $115 MILLION, v/s "Stormy Daniels" gets only $130 K, for each of them being skanky hos.
Der TrumfenFuhrer is an abominable tightwad!!!!
In other words, Chapman says ... "The Trump Administration Is a Sinkhole of Sleaze" ... (Title of article)
Yes, it is, and it won't even pay proper prevailing wages for the sleaze!!! I thought that Der TrumfenFuhrer believed in good, proper haughty-naughty wages for good, proper haughty-naughty Americans!!! Apparently yes, but ONLY if they are NOT working for Der TrumfenFuhrer Himself!!!
Apples and oranges.
Hogan did his friend's wife, at the friend's invitation. Unbeknownst to him, the couple had arranged to secretly film it so they could blackmail the (then) married Hulkster. The supposed friend later sold the video to Gawker, which got sued by Hogan.
My understanding of the Stormy story is that the Trumpster Fire did Stormy and then paid her to keep quiet about it. She accepted the cash but blabbed anyway. It's another example of his skill at deal-making being mostly just a PR myth.
Call me crazy, but I have more sympathy for Hogan.
OK then so points acknowledged, thanks!
Re-analyzing then, if Der TrumfenFuhrer is REALLY as concerned as He says that He is, about good American wages for good American workers, He should "do" the stormy thang with Stormy Daniels again, butt this time do it RIGHT! "Secretly" tape the Stormy affair (without her supposed knowledge), sell the film footage to some media outlet, and THEN Stormy can PROPERLY cash in!
Anything else, and He's still a tightwad...
Wages are going up at a higher rate than any time since the 90s... Not sure what you're even trying to argue.
Wage growth (nominal) is the highest since 2016.
http://www.frbatlanta.org/chcs.....px?panel=1
Inflation is going up, so real wage growth is zero.
"so real wage growth is zero"
So those extra wages I get don't help me pay my mortgage off faster?
Try again.
Chanandler is a flip-flopper on inflation. He supported Obama's view that there was no inflation problem and under Trump, inflation is all Trump's fault and turns our currency into a Billion Brazilian Dollars.
He's also largely wrong, here is breakdown of many common food items. Notice the cost is not generally going up.
http://www.visualcapitalist.co.....ry-prices/
I would love a good article/discussion on inflation and food. Its a topic that is largely ignored.
A tie-in to that topic is food company strategies to keep food prices up and what kinds of food consumers are buying.
I notice that food companies try and push processed foods which cost more. Consumers buy these more expensive processed foods even when they are struggling financially.
When I suggest that they make full meals and freeze portions to reheat as desired, I get blank stares. Its cheaper to hand make a family sized lasagne, freeze it, and eat as desired than to get restaurant food for the number of meals that lasagne would last.
I notice that food companies try and push processed foods which cost more. Consumers buy these more expensive processed foods even when they are struggling financially.
Some people don't know how to cook, don't make time to cook, or just don't like to cook.
Its cheaper to hand make a family sized lasagne, freeze it
Funny. I just did that this afternoon to use up some leftover meat sauce.
You're an original Sarcasmic. Always with the anecdotal jokes.
You know what this world needs? More people who dont have money, dont want tips on how to save money, and just want to complain about how little money they have.
Chandler is a disingenuous progtarded piece of shit
"Wages are going up at a higher rate than any time since the 90s... "
We were talking porn star pay rates... I am an EXTREMELY talented porn star, and can't even find a job! So pay rates is one thing (where I was pointing out the tightwadishness of The Donald's pay rates for Stormy Daniels). But unemployment is yet another issue!
Well anyway, I think that the solution might be mandatory hiring rates for 75-year-old porn superstars like me! (Unemployment is a significant issue, just like pay rates, that is).
There sadly is a genre of granny/grandpa porn for you.
Apples and oranges.
Right. Porn stars having sex on tape are a dime a dozen. There is only one Hulk Hogan.
Writers like Chapman are why Reason is losing its soul. They are favoring revenue raising clickbait over thoughtful libertarian discussions.
KMW - if only you held the mag to the standards you embrace on the Reason podcasts. Are you really comfortable whoring the mag?
This is what happens when you let the Progressive in; they tend to destroy everything.
This is what happens when you only choose writers from the corrupted north east.
Excuse me. Chapman hails from Chicago!
That's what he said.
And yet, he remains a more palatable proposition than anything the apoplectic and nonsensical Left can present. He is still the least bad.
Even the Lefties know this which is why they are attacking Trump with such fury.
Trump has some bad agents but he fires them within a year. The media even said that Trump was not prepared to win, so he didnt have sufficient staff in place. He hired some real stinkers. Somewhere along the lines, Trump found out and fired the turds.
Hillary was a stinker and surrounded herself with stinkers that would protect her. Luckily, Trump won.
Republicans are held accountable by the press. Democrats can do whatever the hell they want and the press will defend them. Reason why Republicans are less bad then Democrats, the worst people become Democrats because they know the press will cover for their crimes.
Yes, the similarities to the previous administration just keep piling up.
-jcr
The office of President draws such people just like turds draw flies. It's okay to criticize Trump about this, but you can't stop there. You have to ask yourself why this keeps happening. The more wealth and power you concentrate in the hands of government, the more slimeballs are drawn to it. It's entirely predictable.
And I wonder if the author thinks a Hillary Clinton administration would have been pure as the proverbial driven snow.
"And I wonder if the author thinks a Hillary Clinton administration would have been pure as the proverbial driven snow."
Of course he does.
And the Obama administration was without sin.
How else do people simultaneously bitch about government corruption and think it needs more power?
Chapman would have asked Hillary to be appointed Head of Propaganda.
He's so good at it.
Hillary couldn't be honest about a cough.
Three Trump associates ? Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos and Rick Gates ? have pleaded guilty to charges of lying to investigators. Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price was brought down by his habit of using private jets and military planes for travel. EPA chief Scott Pruitt resigned over a raft of shameless ethical offenses.
Fast and furious, IRS targeting, paying off terrorists, targeted drone strikes against citizens without judicial review, Waco, Ruby ridge, Whitewater, FBI files, Chinese donors, millions in foreign donations (Obama), classified emails.... And many more examples of moralistic and Pure behavior.
"Three Trump associates ? Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos and Rick Gates ? have pleaded guilty to charges of lying to investigators."
And? You won't find much support here for using process crimes as evidence of corruption.
Process crimes are evidence of corruption, but it's corruption in the federal proscutors' offices. Those pieces of shit shouldn't exist.
I'm curious why Chapman failed to name President Obama with his numerous appointments of Communist & Iranian supporters. Not to mention allowing an unindicted co-conspirator, in the Holy Lands Foundation trial, free reign to rewrite federal regulations or trading 5 terrorist leaders for a traitor.
Examples of Obama administration corruption were too numerous to count. Progs like Tony, Hihn (now "David Nolan"), and Kirkland think simply ignoring or outright denying that fact will suffice. It won't.
"Since Jan. 20, 2017, Americans have seen an endless torrent of corruption beyond anything previously imagined. No president has ever had a surer instinct than Donald Trump for finding and empowering scam artists, spongers, and thugs."
You should get that amnesia checked. It might have an organic cause.
That should read, "Since Sep. 11, 2001...", at the latest.
The amnesia is pretty widespread; a lot of people seem to have it. And it goes further than corruption. Apparently prior to Jan 20 2017 there was no such thing as Nazis, racists, misogynists, gay-bashers, or xenophobes. They think Trump invented them all.
Well of course the administration is a sinkhole. Donald Trump is all of those things, but he considers himself the epitome of a reasonable, upstanding citizen. So of course, when he goes looking to fill positions with reasonable, upstanding citizens he picks people like himself.
He actually is bro the epitome of reasonable citizens. You just happen to be wrong about yourself and your own character.
But champions of these tainted presidents can take heart. Since Jan. 20, 2017, Americans have seen an endless torrent of corruption beyond anything previously imagined. No president has ever had a surer instinct than Donald Trump for finding and empowering scam artists, spongers, and thugs.
Chapman has gone full Lefty and lost his mind.
List of federal political scandals
Nixon had the Watergate Seven: Charles Colson, John Ehrlichman, H.R. Haldeman, Robert Mardian, John N. Mitchell, Kenneth Parkinson, Gordon C. Strachan plus E. Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy.
Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, Bush Sr, and Trump had Paul Manafort as an advisor.
Bill Clinton himself was impeached for lying.
Booosh had the Plame Affair....
Obama and Trump had Michal Flynn work for them.
Obama had David H. Petraeus, Hillary Clinton....
You are such a hack Chapman. Do your research and admit that nearly all presidents had some kind of political scandal.
You're absolutely right. It's dishonest (at best) to say that the Trump administration is significantly more corrupt than recent Presidents.
Even Carter had an OMB director who was charged of bank fraud and resigned.
By the way... this article is what TDS is. Debating whether Trump's policies are sound or libertarian is not TDS.
TDS is omitting facts to twist historical fact. TDS is lying about Trump's actions to signal.
Mentioning Trump mistakes is absolutely not TDS.
Chapman just outed himself as having full-blown TDS. Trump's re-election in 2020 will definitely make the condition worse, if that's possible.
If the democrats fail as hard as I think they will in the mid terms it will get worse. I'm wondering now if a re election of atrumo in 2020 will lead to a new wave of leftist domestic terrorism like back in the 70's with the Weathermen and the SLA.
Scrolling through that list of federal scandals you linked to, I noticed something interesting:
There seemed to a lot fewer scandals, in particular Executive Branch scandals prior to ~Woodrow Wilson (with the exception of Grant - holy shit what a scumbag). In fact, the only two post Wilson presidents with no Executive Branch scandals were Hoover (1 term) and Kennedy (not even a full term, and there are several scandals that came to light after his death that are not listed). And the number of scandals skyrocketed from about Nixon on.
It's almost like there's a direct correlation between the amount of power the Executive Branch wields and the number of scandals. Like, I don't know, maybe political power attracts scumbags. Whodathunkit!
I noticed that too. IIRC Grant did not really want to be president. He rode his military record into office.
The Civil War had so filled the government with corrupt cronies looking to profit off the Civil War, that he was just not the right person. Like Trump, Grant also did not have a ready-made government staff when he won the election.
I also think that some graft was considered normal back before the Wilson. The federal Indian trustees raided federal monies for tribes. It was real sad. Police around the USA skimmed to make ends meet. There was mass corruption and no real federal laws or an agency to do anything about it.
The FBI was a possible solution but Hoover made the FBI his own corrupt fiefdom.
"Booosh had the Plame Affair"
A totally made up scandal. Plame wasn't covert, everybody she knew was a CIA employee, and she was "outed" by Dick Armitage (state dept under Colin Powell).
But poor Scooter LIbby got convicted of a "process crime" (lying to the LYING Feds) because he couldn't remember who he talked to when.
He deserved the pardon by Trump.
The government should not be able to lie and people should not get away with lying under oath.
Everyone 'knowing' Plame was CIA is not the same as the government admitting it. Plame was a partisan bureaucrat but outing secret US intel people sets a bad precedent.
Boosh was a scumbag president and he had his share of bad actors on staff.
It was a totally made up scandal the point of which was to get Cheney and/or Bush for "outing" a CIA agent.
The "outing" didn't happen and the person that did mention her name was never charged with a crime.
Scooter Libby was the victim of a special prosecutor that had to find someone to take a scalp from.
Whether Bush was a "scumbag" or not is irrelevant.
I just had a terrible, terrible thought.
What if... what if this IS the swamp-draining that Trump promised? What if he's pulling the sleezeballs out of the woodwork, putting them in the spotlight, and letting his opponents tear them down? I mean, the administration *IS* bringing all sorts of government abuses into the light where they can be addressed, isn't it?
I still think that Trump got a few out of Congress to be in his cabinet, so he could just fire them.
Tom Price from Georgia was one. I think Sessions is another. Trump has been able to control Sessions as AG even though Sessions wanted to step up the drug war. At some point trump will fire Sessions. Probably after Mueller is gone.
Maybe after the election, assuming Republicans hold onto the Senate. A lot of anti-Trump Senators will be gone, one way or another.
What I really want is for Sessims to go and his replacement to go massively hard line on:
Democrat officials running sanctuary cities.
The Clinton Crime Family
George Soros' criminal activities, including incitement amd consoiracy to commit sedition
Subversive Marxist activities in Hollywood
Criminal activities from the Obama administration that were never criminally investigated
And so much more.
Ah yes, the 3-D chess theory. When in doubt, I usually apply Occam's Razor. In this case, the reason so many sleazy people are working in Trump's administration is because the very nature of presidential power attract people like that. It's not even unique to Trump, really.
So you just keep missing your throat then?
Oh, please. Look, I know that Trump is displeasing to the Libertarian Clique. I get that. But to suggest that his administration is sleazier than Bill 'If I can't seduce them, I'll rape 'em" Clinton or Barak "No Scandals...and if you believe THAT..." Obama is pushing it, guys.
Even just looking at elections... Bill "more Chinese money please" Clinton and barack "how'd all that middle eastern money get into my campaign" Obama are far more corrupt than trying to get oppo research from someone offering it. Hillary literally paid Russian sources for dirt in the Steele dossier.
Oh, don't even get me started on Shrillary "My Husband's a Sex Predator, but I got to sleep in the White House" Clinton.
Bill was all about bringing Chinese money to the US. Even when he was the Gov of AR.
The only time the Concord flew to Little Rock, it was carrying Chinese businessmen Clinton was courting.
It's like a fucking alternate universe in here. You think Obama would have made it past Day 1 with all the crap Trump is implicated in? What if Obama's campaign chair were about to go to prison for the rest of his life? Would you be so wishy-washy about it, or would this entire place be set alight with he outrage of a thousand galaxies?
Do you even believe this pathetic crap, or are you hoping some severely retarded lurker might be convinced?
Oh Tony, Trump has been implicated in zero.
The media throwing out accusations means nothing. Its what you can prove. Even your best Lefty bud, Mueller has spent over 1.5 years and has zero evidence of any Trump wrongdoing.
Even worse for you is Trump let Mueller tip over rocks because he knew that he was clean. Hillary had all her rocks nuked along with everything under them.
I'm gonna go with you don't believe your own horseshit, but it's possible you are dumb enough to.
You don't know what evidence he has on Trump because it hasn't been released yet. The investigation is ongoing. Do you really think you can convince a slow toddler with this ridiculous talking point, let alone an adult who pays attention to the real world?
Mueller is hiding evidence of Trump's illegal activities? No Shit?
You would think Mueller, being a Lefty poster child, would release it to get Trump impeached.
I just wonder what you will do when Manafort is acquitted.
Being that Mueller was part of the FBI, I'm sure he will come out with stuff on Trump just in time to affect the midterm elections.
You're probably right.
Would only be fair. Actually it would be less than fair considering the last time was a presidential year.
Tony, you're so goddamn stupid and dishonest. Go drink your Drano.
And we haven't even investigated Obama yet. Just imagine everything that must be there!
The logic is impeccable.
Lying to investigators is the charge levied when the authorities are trying to save face.
If that is all that is going to come out of this administration long investigation, it will be a witchhunt of astonishing proportions.
Since I approve of anything that hamstrings government, I hope witchhunts become the standard going forward.
I've not been commenting on Reason all that long so I don't have a realistic perspective, but this may be the most partisan piece of writing I've ever seen on here. What a load of one-sided reporting.
Chapman doesn't understand it is more corrupt to not charge political allies w crimes sch as lying. We have actual evidence of Mills, abedin, and Platte River employees lying to investigators and they got immunities instead. That is actual sleeze and corruption.
James "I have you the least dishonest answer I could" Clapper.
What did congress do when Clapper admitted he lied to them? Nothing. Without accountability it will always be a cesspool.
It is obvious that people only want to clean up the other team and ignore the cesspool in their own back yard.
I would agree with you on the point that "anything that hamstrings government is a good thing" but if you look at Trump's actions (rather than his tweets) he is doing a lot of good things to cut back on the Regulatory Behemoth that has become our Fourth Branch of government.
He deserves more credit in that area than he's been given credit for. It's a long overdue step in the right direction.
Chapman wins. His value signal is much stronger than Robbie's.
To be sure?
Well Robbie did go from supporting an anti white racist to attacking Infowars for hate in under 4 days.... Fine. It's a tie.
This is different from past administrations because....
because Trump. Meanwhile Hillary and louse Lerner and Lynch and Comey and clapper should be in jail for actions committed while in office where half the people Chapman listed may have committed crimes prior to Trump even running.
because Trump.
Oh yeah. I forgot.
We're kind of looking into it this time.
It's a million times worse? Also treason?
Yeah, that spy in Diane Feinstein's staff did drag DF into a treason situation.
You're a useless human being.
OH Tony, you're not even trying now?
It must really have you foaming at the mouth about how great Trump is doing.
He tries harder than you. I have yet to see anything resembling an argument from you. All you do is call people names.
Funny how Anarchists think calling them Anarchist is 'calling them names'.
Like Socialists getting upset when people call them 'Socialists'.
Its very telling for where you rest your hat.
What is telling is that you never respond to anything I actually write. You just shout "Anarchist" in a shrill voice, while occasionally throwing out anarchist arguments that I have never made, and expecting me to defend them.
Not once have you addressed anything I actually wrote.
You write things besides jokes?
Oh. I always just thought you wanted to make us laugh because you're an Anarchist hiding in a Libertarian forum where you undermine Libertarian positions with jokes and then you need a safe space when people call you by your political affiliation 'Anarchist'.
You don't write anything worth addressing. Plus, you're an asshole. Kind of like Chemjeff making the same retread retard argument about open borders over, and over. It just gets old after awhile, and isn't worth the time to refute the same retarded shit for the twentieth or twenty fifth time.
LC actually makes compelling arguments, backed by logic and facts.
You don't.
loveconstitution1789|8.9.18 @ 11:49AM|#
Yeah, that spy in Diane Feinstein's staff did drag DF into a treason situation.
Tony|8.9.18 @ 11:51AM|#
You're a useless human being.
*cough*
*pops popcorn*
This ought to be entertaining. /sarc
Not really. Chapman is just a joke. Chapman and Dalmia rantings are not even worthy of a good flame war now. It takes a certain amount of imagination and intelligence to create a flame war. It doesn't take much, but it takes a little. Chapman doesn't even have that anymore. His writing and reason's willingness to publish it is more sad than anything.
Chapman is never going to get that NYT job if he doesn't signal hard enough.
Maybe he can trash talk some honkies on his twitter feed. I hear that gets you a seat on their editorial board these days.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Manfort was his campaign manager for like a month. And he has never held a position in the administration. So, what the hell does the fact that he liked nice clothes years before he ever met Trump have to do with anything?
Chapman is just retarded. He really is dumb as a post. He can't even write a competent hit piece.
So, what the hell does the fact that he liked nice clothes years before he ever met Trump have to do with anything?
Absolutely nothing, which is why I picked out that line to kind of poke a little fun at. Having shitty taste in expensive clothes isn't an example of corruption, it's just kind of dumb.
And now that I've seen it, it isn't really that gaudy. Out of date, sure. It looks like the kinds of leather jackets that were popular in the '80s, but as far as '80s fashion goes, that's certainly not the worst thing to come out of that decade. I was expecting something way worse.
Fashion crime? Impeachably good taste?
I'd wear it if you paid me $15,000. But you'd have to pay me again on each occasion.
I'll do it for only $10,000! Free market rules!
Good album name. Also, wasn't that Crusty's nickname in college? Or was it BUCS'?
it was my first marriage.
This is possibly the most Chapman-esque article ever. He's like Miss Manners if she lost her sense of humor and started writing about politics.
I didn't think he could top the one where he suddenly was worried about Russia and why Trump wasn't being warlike enough. But damned if he hasn't done it. You just have to treat him as performance art at this point.
Holy shit, this is a screed. Yeah, Trump is awful.
But "lying to investigators" is the kind of crime that someone who actually believes in liberty should consider a bullshit crime. Their alternative was to simply decline to be interviewed, and if they did so people like the author would be screeching "WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO HIDE? ONLY GUILTY PEOPLE ASSERT THEIR FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS!!!!!".
And Manafort was, you know, never a member of the administration.
Pruitt was scum, but there's been at least one of him in every administration since I've been alive...?.
Pruitt also got rid of about a billion dollars worth of regulation and did more to advance the cause of freedom than any other cabinet member in my lifetime. I would prefer he not have done the things he did. But I would still take him over someone who didn't do those things but advanced the regulatory state and made me less free.
If it takes 'corrupt' people like Pruitt to clean house in the EPA and other parts of the government and then quit (or be pushed out), I will take that.
The Lefties attack perfectly respectable and clean people, if they are on the wrong political team.
You're such an amoral, hypocritical shithole, John.
Imagine if an Obama cabinet member had done 1/100th of what Pruitt had done. How many pairs of underwear would you have set on fire in your outrage?
Obama never had a cabinet member that reduced government like Pruitt did.
It really pisses me off how long I spent here being told how ends don't justify means. I used the word "amoral" for a reason. Never speak to me about principles again.
I cant speak about principles to you. You have zero principles.
I would take a million more slightly wasteful political appointees who push to gut the wasteful federal government. Especially when they are slightly wasteful and then quit or are pushed out in 1.5 years.
The Lefties bashing Trump for not having political appointees stay for long is hilarious. That is a good thing, yet Lefties look at like a bad thing. Lefties just have a disconnect with what Americans want.
You have zero principles.
That's not true. Tony does believe in 'might makes right.' But that's about it.
They don't stay for a long time (and we're talking an outlandishly record amount of turnover) because of all the incredible amounts of corruption.
What, do you take this as you being proven right about government dysfunction? Why do you lick their balls in worship so much then?
Tony you're not just amoral, you're immoral. You represent the most evil, loathsome things in the world. So are all these progtards you worship, like your lord and master, Obama.
You amd your friends have made the world into a more miserable, dangerous place to live. If every one of you took your own life tomorrow, it would be a better day.
"I cant speak about principles to you. You have zero principles.
I would take a million more slightly wasteful political appointees who push to gut the wasteful federal government. Especially when they are slightly wasteful"
Slightly wasteful. LOL.
You wouldn't recognize a principle if it slapped you in the ass with both hands.
I was in the military. Pruitt was 'slightly wasteful'.
He might, if instead of a 'principl', it was the cock of a teenage boy.
"I cant speak about principles to you. You have zero principles.
I would take a million more slightly wasteful political appointees who push to gut the wasteful federal government. Especially when they are slightly wasteful"
Slightly wasteful. LOL.
You wouldn't recognize a principle if it slapped you in the ass with both hands.
I imagine most Obama cabinet members did at least as much. Just because the press covers it up doesn't mean it didn't happen
Uh huh. Is today stupid day? I thought it was cat day.
You're Tony. So EVERY day is stupid day, you shot rained imbecile.
Imagine if an Obama cabinet member had done 1/100th of what Pruitt had done.
I don't have to imagine that. Hillary Clinton did a thousand times more than Pruit and engaged in real corruption. She was secretary of state while her and Bill's foundation accepted hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign nations. She committed any number of national security felonies in having her own private server.
And you wanted her to be president. I don't want Pruit to be President. Obama had the most corrupt administration since Nixon. It is not even close. And you thought all of it was just great. And now I supposed to be angry over Pruit having a nice office.
Get back to me when Pruitt orders the murder of an American citizen or takes millions for foreign nations in return for official favors. Asshole.
Blah blah blah. You are capable of being smarter than this Alex Jones level nonsense. You simply choose not to be. Why isn't Hillary in court or prison? Who's heading up that conspiracy?
Give me a fucking break John.
Someday, Tony, you will give all of us a break and kill yourself.
I am hoping for Trump re-election inauguration day, January 2021.
Oh now you're on the "my political opponents should die" bandwagon. How nice. I just love how everyone loves freedom so much here!
Tony, you are free to kill yourself.
I served in the military to defend your right to off yourself.
You're welcome.
Why isn't Hillary in court or prison?
Because some people are above the law.
How specifically is she above the law? It's Trump's justice department. Why aren't they going after her for all her alleged horrible crimes?
Why aren't they going after her for all her alleged horrible crimes?
Nobody wants to set the precedent of going after past administrations because if they do it could happen to them.
That is a good question.
Answer - because the Republicans are weasals.
Whenever I see that the Dems are losing I'm happy.
Then I remember that means the Republicans are wining.
the it is - oh sh*t.
""How specifically is she above the law?""
The FBI modified their own report because not doing so would have made her vulnerable to an indictment .
#RESISTRUSSIA!
I don't have to. We already have two examples: Gina McCarthy and Lisa Jackson, aka "Richard Windsor."
Imagine if an Obama cabinet member had done 1/100th of what Pruitt had done
So, one ten thousandth of what they actually did, then? Pretend Pruitt wasn't better than the best Obama's team had to offer?
Why?
Jeez, the death toll between Holder, Clinton and Jarret alone is staggering--and we haven't even gotten to misspent funds, embezzling, government harassment or any of the other day-today occurrences of the Obama administration--things which weren't hidden, but praised in the media as examples of Obama's amazing statesmanship
"O.J. Simpson was a great running back. Set lots of records. And so personable. Loved the Hertz commercials. Yeah, I'd prefer he have not done that other stuff with knives and all, but I'd still take him over someone who wasn't a great back and whose commercials were stupid."
Yeah because what Pruit did was just like murdering two people. That is some top flight thinking there Bevis.
You missed the point, John, perhaps intentionally. Anyway, thanks for letting us know that you're fine with corruption as long as it's corruption from the right tribe.
I mean, gosh, if it were only somehow possible for someone to implement the policies you like without being a totally corrupt asshole.
"Unique in the variety and scope of its transgressions."
As opposed to "The most transparent administration in history", that motto is refreshingly modest.
So, some people on the campaign, not the administration did bad things and a few people who were appointed were accused on something wrong as public figures and/or business owners. Apparently, due process is not a thing a Reason anymore. Where are the standards? How many appointments have been made, or attempted to have been made? Hundreds. And have any of those been found criminally or civilly liable for anything?
I have no doubt that there are crappy humans in the Trump admin. But this 'article' doesn't establish that. Attacking Andy Pudzer? He seems like an excellent businessman to me. A damn shame he isn't Labor Secretary instead of that hack and GOPe retread Alex Acosta.
"Since Jan. 20, 2017, Americans have seen an endless torrent of corruption beyond anything previously imagined."
Seriously? Look, I despise Trump. And yes, there's been a lot of sleaze and ethical lapses in the administration. But you only have to go back to the last two Democratic administrations to find worse. Anything done under Trump pales in comparison To Hilary Clinton's (and by extension Bill Clinton's) misdeeds. They've made over $100 million selling her office to the highest bidder. To cover it up, she exposed a mountain of classified data and then destroyed a mountain of evidence. A corrupt Obama Justice Department let her skate. At the same time, the IRS was being weaponized to attack political opponents. And Obama was behind all of it. All the while, he was spewing an avalanche of lies in support of a fraudulent wholesale "reform" of the health care system. As for sexual misdeeds, Bill Clinton sexually exploited an underling WHILE IN OFFICE and had a train of women accusing him of rape.
Just treat Trump with the same skepticism you are treating accusations against Obama and Clinton. We wouldn't want to be unfair.
Who cares. The Lefties dont want to be fair at all, with their propaganda.
That faint sizzling sound you hear all the time is FOX News destroying your brain matter.
What's FOX News?
It that the tabloid show you watch to find out what RINOs are doing today?
Oh, FOX News isn't quite insane and propagandistic enough for you?
I try to be a good liberal and acknowledge that people like you are victims of nefarious actors trying to exploit your stupidity for their political and financial gain. I hope you get the help you need.
Libertarians dont need your 'help' Tony.
We have to fight off Lefties like you, RINOs, Anarchists....
Its hilarious that YOU watch FOX news.
It's frightening that you think FOX News is too far to the left for you.
What's really hilarious is that you, lc, call yourself a libertarian.
You're a conservative, with no arguments, who calls people names when you have been beaten, which is all the time.
You support force and coercion as long as you like the outcome or the people doing it, which goes against the NAP.
You oppose free trade and the free movement of people, which goes against the principles of personal liberty.
You reflexively react to any criticism of Trump, which shows a closed mind and personal bias.
I keep hoping that someday you'll actually respond with an argument instead of shouting "Anarchist! Leftist! TDS! Kill yourself!" in a shrill voice.
Sadly I am disappointed.
Every.
Single.
Time.
At least John owns up to being a conservative, and has coherent arguments to defend his position.
You just call people names.
Sarcasmic, you're defending Tony which answer a lot of questions about you.
You dont even know what a Libertarian is. You're a AnCapper or Anarchist for short.
Keep us entertained Sarcasmic. We like to laugh at you between real discussions.
More name calling. Right on cue.
Own your Anarchism bud.
Lets talk about Anarchy-land sometime.
Why not talk about things I actually say, instead of the straw man in your head?
You post rhetorical jokes. Nobody is supposed to respond to them.
Haha. Again, I despise Trump. But his treatment by the media is over the top unfair. You have blatant racists on the Left calling him a racist. He may be many things but this is a very unfair accusation. And they gave Bill Clinton a pass for his even more egregious sexual transgressions, proven and alleged. All the while, they're trying to impeach him when his opponent, Hilary Clinton, their Presidential candidate, had proven impeachable offenses before taking office.
So why isn't Hillary being investigated?
Lizard People conspiracy or some such?
Get out of the fucking bubble for a few minutes. The air is fresh out here.
Mishandling of classified information.
You mumble pathetically. She's been cleared. Perhaps you're referring to the pizza shop child sex ring? Explain why if she's so much more corrupt than Trump, and Trump is president, he's being investigated by his justice department and she's not?
Something coherent would be helpful.
Tony, you know the statute of limitations has not expired on Hillary admitted violations of mishandling classified information?
Her protectors have been fired. McCabe. Comey. Peter Strzok. Lisa Page. Soon to be Rosenstein.
So... she didn't mishandle mountains of classified information? She didn't make over hundred million selling her office to the highest bidder? She didn't destroy evidence to hide all this corruption?
You must be living in an alternate universe.
No, she didn't. You're living in an alternate fact universe. It's because of your media diet. Change it or be stupid and insane forever.
No, she was never "cleared".
Comey lister her crimes but then said no "reasonable" prosecutor would bring a case because they couldn't prove intent.
Well "intent" isn't necessary to be guilty of the crimes that she is guilty of.
But, her using a private server if proof of "intent" anyway.
So why wouldn't the FBI/DOJ go after her under Obozo. Because Obozo was one of her email buddies and he is guilty too.
Plus the Dem DOJ wasn't going to bring down the anointed Hillary.
Why won't Sessions/the Republicans/Trump do it?
Because they don't care about Justice either.
""Because they don't care about Justice either."'
Some people only care about justice when they can finger the other team. Except Bill Clinton, he would use a cigar.
Principals, not principles.
Trump supporters are reacting the same to criticism that Obama supporters did. Just change a few words.
You dare to criticize Obama Trump? You're a hater! This is racism TDS! It's the only explanation! Reason is a conservative leftist rag! Why does anyone read this shit?
False equivalency.
Paul Krugman loves to use false equivalency.
So you don't deny that what I say is true, just that it's different because...
I didnt read what you wrote.
Give me an hour to translate your word salad.
So you have no argument. As usual.
I have lots of arguments. People discuss my positions all the time.
You dont. You are the funny Anarchist. You pop in and out, like a monkey, making us laugh.
I dont think that I have ever thanked you for the great laughs I have at you.
More name calling. Right on cue.
I learned from you.
Your a righteous Anarchist dude.
Trump supporters are reacting the same to criticism that Obama supporters did. Just change a few words.
Are you reading the same things everyone else is reading?
People pointing out that there were mountains of corruption prior to Trump are 'Trump supporters'?
Even though the statement is factually correct?
People pointing out that there was worse, much worse corruption and sleaze before Trump are 'changing a few words'?
Even though THAT statement is factually correct as well?
The Iranian cash-dump alone dwarfs the dollar amount of ALL the corruption and sleaze so far in the Trump administration.
And that's just one thing.
I think you're on the wrong side of "Principals, not principles." in this case.
Tony, hopefully you can also treat Trump with the same skepticism that you treated Obama and Clinton.
I was an anti-Clinton Republican when he was in office and I was against Obama until he got the nomination, and skeptical the whole way through. The reason I remained a Democrat was because of the contrast of his remarkably corruption-free administration to the massive graft, environmental destruction, wealth redistribution, and kid fucking going on in the GOP.
Also wars based on lies and torture and gun proliferation. I could go on.
So Obama?
Remember when Obama ordered that US drone to murder that American?
Which you treat as more of a problem than 100,000 dead in Iraq because of that (D) after his name. What a joke you are.
Any dead Iraqis dead from US hands is sad.
All the dead American troops dead because of Boosh and Obama is outrageous.
A president purposely ordering the murder of an American is criminal.
Hillary voted for the Iraq War.
But that was when it was politically expedient to do so.
When not she changed her position.
Or the gun proliferation Holder (and likely Obama himself) oversaw?
Or the Bush wars that he continued?
Or using the IRS for political gain?
Obama himself came out pretty clean on corruption, but to say that his administration was "remarkably corruption-free" is a bit of a stretch. Re-posting LC's link from above shows that you're wrong. It's not far-fetched to believe that Obama was aware of some of these scandals, at best, and his minions took the fall to protect him.
It just always strikes me as ridiculous when some of the most partisan commenters on H&R blame the other side for being partisan. This seems to be your shtick recently.
I admit to my partisanship freely and often. I just hate liars who pretend otherwise.
You hate yourself Tony? Good thing, you're always by yourself.
""I admit to my partisanship freely and often"'
Which is why you will never admit the trespasses of your team.
I will admit to them all, just not the horseshit dreamed up by Alex Jones and ilk. Hit me with something that actually happened.
can i bitch from a seat of apathy?
>>>endless torrent of corruption beyond anything previously imagined
I hadn't noticed.
Has Reason gone full-time TDS?
Its been in development for some time now.
Election 2018 is coming soon. The Lefties hiding as Reason staff need to signal or they wont get prime positions at the NYT when the GOP cleans up this election. The NYT propaganda will need to be stepped up for election 2020 to prevent Trump from being re-relected.
This guy works for the Chicago Tribune. He's not part of the Reason staff. Why they post his crap is beyond me. Though his last one was actually spot on. Of course it was on economics, not Trump. Didn't matter to his haters. He could say the sky is blue and people like John and lc1789 would still have kittens.
Link to his last great work, so we can blast you for that too.
Speaking of haters, why do Anarchists like Sarcasmic even want to hang with Libertarians?
meow
I am the cat's meow.
cute kittens maybe
Most of their writers seem to have gone this way, yes. I used to be an avid reader, took a break, and came back to a dumpster fire of TDS.
Check back every now and again and it doesn't seem to be getting any better, only worse as Trump doesn't magically turn into Hitler combined with FDR like the writers seem to want him to become.
fee.org and mises.org are still good for scratching that liberty itch.
Why isn't the most powerful government official in the world possibly being incredibly corrupt a libertarian concern? Oh, that (R) after his name, is it?
Maybe this crap is why libertarian doesn't do so great.
You just post here to make yourself miserable. What a sad life.
Not quite as sad as the Republican party circle jerk you want to spend your time engaging in.
Even if I did want to do that, you'd still be sadder.
A weirdo who sits online ranting at a group of people who never care what he has to say.
How miserable that must be. Your blood pressure has to be out of control.
Tony cannot leave the house because of all the machines that she is hooked to.
Possibly. But you Trumptards are hardly the model of equanimity, are you? I am stocked on popcorn for when the Mueller charges and gnashing of teeth begin.
Trump will pardon anyone who happens to be convicted by Mueller.
Sessions and Mueller will get the boot.
Trump will get re-elected in 2020 and Lefty heads will explode.
Truth. I almost feel bad for the people who think otherwise.
But really, I don't, because I don't think about them at all except for rare moments like this when I interact with a sad loser who's been hate-fapping to reason comments for the better part of a decade.
phandaal|8.9.18 @ 12:03PM|#
I mistakenly thought a large donation by Soros was behind Reason's TDS. But I was wrong. It is a large donation by Charles Koch.
So ,Pompeo, Kelly , Bolton are sleaze ? Got it
Ben Rhodes lied to the press and then slammed the press as the idiots they are.
He is a Rock star , Correct?
Do we currently have a SoS who is selling political access to foreign government officials for 'donations'? How about one who set up a separate comm system to keep her official comms out of sight, and then erased them when they were subpoenaed?
If you're going to claim 'most corrupt', you ought to at least look at the last lying piece of shit who inhabited the office.
Champan is a useful idiot.
Hillary Inc. was vicious. Not to mention Barry, Holder and Rice.
Seriously. People need to chill on this 'THIS TIME IT'S THE WORST CORRUPTION EVER' crap.
Seriously. People need to chill on this 'THIS TIME IT'S THE WORST CORRUPTION EVER' crap.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a fan of Trump's policies in a lot of areas. But I whole-heartedly agree with you on this part. The hyperbole about Trump, especially related to corruption/racism/etc, does more damage to the anti-Trump cause than good.
There are many things that libertarians should and could be critical about the Trump administration for, that they don't need to pretend that he's the "worst ever." It's why ad hominem attacks don't win debates. Instead, they make your position look weaker than it is if you would just stick to the policy in question. Hyperbole is just as ineffective.
If y'all picked the actual things Trump has done wrong you would get more support.
Trump signed the huge bloated budget. He should not have done that. Presidents always get blamed, which is why he did sign it. Trump also chose to fight other battles. Trump wants a strong economy to win more seats during election 2018 and to push for lower trade restrictions.
I just want Trump to refuse to sign one of these bloated budgets and stick with it.
I always said that eventually Republicunts are going to be so delusional that they delude themselves out of winning elections. Now, I didn't account for the rampant cheating, which, bully for them. But you can't actually believe that they're going to pick up House seats this year.
Its not about what I believe. It is reality. Democrats will lose big election 2018.
You can tell from the Lefty comments attached to these propaganda pieces from NYT, VOX, WaPo.... The Lefties think Trump is hitler and non-Lefty Americas deserve to die.
Non-Lefty voters know this and resent it. The Silent Majority will punish the Left like they did by electing Trump.
Democrats will lose big election 2018.
Dude, you're already on thin ice with people thinking you're a Russian.
"Among his more ridiculous outlays was more than $1.3 million in men's apparel, including a $15,000 ostrich-skin jacket that most men would not wear if you paid them $15,000. "
Somebody is getting catty.
Reason still allowing Shikha's clitoris to pen TDS articles!
I'm looking forward to 2028, after Trump declines a fourth term, when he quickly morphs into the guy the left wouldn't mind as the primary season starts
Perhaps "forever be remembered as a sinkhole of sleaze", but still a very ssmall price to pay for what could have been.
I don't understand all of these attacks on Trump from you folks at Reason. You DO realize that, no matter how corrupt he is, his antics generally do not victimize the average American the way those of the outright communists in the Democratic Party do, right?
I mean, if Trump goes down and the Democrats take control, we are going to see a wave of communist central-planning sweep every nook and cranny of this great country the likes of which we will never recover from. They are waiting in the wings to take more of our money and implement so many controls on our economy and our society that America will be irretrievably lost to an all-powerful ruling political class. I hate to sound apocalyptic, but Trump is the only thing standing in the way of full-blown communism seizing control of this country.
Either you are clueless about the enemy that we are faced with, or you just don't give a crap.
Why not try a little "constructive engagement" instead? Try to influence Trump - to guide him in the right direction. He's malleable.
Attacking him will just empower his enemies, which are much, MUCH worse.
He needs constructive criticism, not just kicking him in the balls for fun. As you said he enemies are infinitely worse!
Those grapes sure are sour aren't they Steve?
They are but I told him Trump Tissues are on sale for his tears.
Oh boo hoo hoo.
Stevareno - Trump tissues are on sale for your tears.
But look on the bright side = Hillary Clinton will NEVER EVER BE PRESIDENT = ahahahahahhahaha
And Bill will NEVER be 1st Male First Lady - although it would have been amusing.
Yeah. There's a lot I don't like about the Trump admin /presidency. I will take it every day and twice on Sunday over Clinton. There wasn't a viable 3rd party candidate. Johnson was not it. Period.
Mr. Chapman, you write: "You could hardly surround yourself with so many disreputable figures as the president has unless you opened a halfway house for felons. But his preference for the shady sort is what you'd expect of someone whose business career has been a chronicle of bankruptcy, bullying, and deceit."
". . . someone whose business career has been a chronicle of bankruptcy, bullying, and deceit." A chronicle?
It seems that you don't like Mr. Trump. But it's very unprofessional to allow your personal feelings to enter into your public writings. Bad form. I'll probably never read another essay or editorial by you. It reads like a rant from a child.
Show documented evidence of your accusations, then you might have some credibility. But you don't so you have none.
No excuses for bad things, but you don't mention a word about anyone but Grant and Harding. Obama did many much worse things. Mention him, too.
". . . a sinkhole of sleaze." What a clever turn of phrase. You've almost achieved alliteration.
I'm going to LOL in 20 years when Trump is remembered as fondly as Reagan. I'm serious! I wasn't an adult back then, but as I understand it the whole establishment was on his ass like white on rice the whole time. Regular people just kept liking him though, and many of his policies.
As a libertarian I think Reagan is VASTLY overrated... But people still love that guy. I even kinda like him better than most other shit presidents we've had in the last 100 or so years. Trump is going to end up being the same fucking thing. Mark my words. He has a lot of good policies, and several bad, but he will be well remembered by a good chunk of the country in time.
Reason has officially pooped its pants and has full-blown Trump Derangement Syndrome. I will unsubscribe now. I can hear this same bullshit on MSNBC or CNN.
Wow- for a minute there I thought I was reading Huffpost. Reason, running out of legitimate contributors?
What a complete load of crap!! This administration is more corrupt than the Clinton or Obama Administration? Seriously? All the crap we have learned about how the Obama administration used the DOJ and FBI to spy on the Trump campaign and there is too much to talk about when discussing the Clintons that this article is a joke.
Nah is not. Just a sink hole.
Every single one of these accusations made against trump officials are minor violations being amplified by trumphate.
Stay at home mom Kelly Richards from New York after resigning from her full time job managed to average from $6000-$8000 a month from freelancing at home... This is how she done it
???USA~JOB-START