Tattoo Parlors Aren't The Same As Strip Clubs
And neither will ruin your neighborhood.

There's no good reason for tattoo parlors to be considered akin to strip clubs or sex shops, but that's the situation Louisiana tattoo artist and shop owner Ted Legendre has found himself in. Due to a Puritanical shift in city zoning, Legendre has found himself cash strapped and unable to open the tattoo shop he had nearly finished renovating.
Legendre, a resident of LaPlace, Louisiana, was readying a decades-old tattoo shop for business in St. John the Baptist Parish in 2017. He received approval from the parish to alter the space, and he figured he would receive approval to open, too, given existing law. But when the parish changed its zoning ordinances in August 2017, tattoo shops became classified as "adult use" which presented new hurdles. "They never included tattoo shops in any of their postings on the ordinance," Legendre says. "So no one knew they were included."
When businesses are considered "adult use," it means onerous restrictions are placed on them, such as regulation of their proximity to other businesses. In St. John Parish, they're not allowed to operate within 1,000 feet of a church, community center, or a daycare, as Legendre would have been. But Legendre points out that this rule makes little sense. "I can open a bar 300 feet away from the same daycare." Would they rather have a drunk person "in a 3,500 lb. vehicle running around" or a person with a freshly bandaged tattoo?
The zoning change was passed last year, with the support of several concerned citizens. One La Place resident said at a parish council hearing, according to the public transcript, "I'm totally against bringing in any kind of strip club, or peep show or anything like that. I believe it would be a detriment to our community and [the council should] continue to push forward regulations that would prevent such businesses coming to the parish."
Another resident stated, in reference to permitting adult use businesses, "I don't think this is a place for this kind of thing, it will draw a lot of the pedophiles in the surrounding areas and it will be flooded with crimes and all that."
Director of Planning and Zoning Alexandra Carter initially brought some sense to the table, saying, "We can't outright prohibit adult use establishment, that's illegal it's a violation of the First Amendment." But she continued, "What we can do is…thousand foot buffers from all family-oriented businesses and uses, and require any adult use get a conditional use permit which requires Council approval before locating."
That's true, and parish councils frequently employ such zoning stipulations. But many of the reasons typically offered for zoning out strip clubs—noise, the possibility of children being exposed to sexual behavior, drunkenness—don't apply to tattoo shops. Discomfort is likely grounded in the industry's historical association with society's rejects and rebels, and an "antiquated thought process," according to Legendre.
When Legendre pushed back against his shop's classification during a meeting last month, Carter responded "it's not necessarily obscene, or classified by being sexually explicit" but that adult use businesses "could devalue neighboring properties." She also cited concern about "the health impacts associated with what's going on…and the presence of…needles and those types of things, that these things are typically associated with adult uses."
Legendre reminded city officials that he's bound by Department of Health rules on proper disposal of needles. That made no difference, however, and he remains unable to open. The city did grant him electric and water permits in April, despite the passage of the new zoning rule. "They should not have given me my permits for electric and water if they would not let me open and spend all that money on remodeling," Legendre says.
An inconspicuous shopfront run by a professional artist who is just trying to make a living is not a blight on a community. A tattoo shop is very unlikely to become a haven for pedophiles or a nest of broken needles. But none of those arguments have swayed the parish council.
Nearly all of Legendre's money has been poured into the now-useless renovations, but the artist told the New Orleans Advocate that if he had any money left, he would lawyer up and try to fight.
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So you see, establishment's that serve alcohol are not 'adult use' establishments...because reasons? That said, Louisiana is corrupt as fuck so this guy probably just failed to grease the right palms.
If you think the great state of Louisiana is corrupt, try Illinois.
That state (which I left decades ago) has about two or three governors going to jail for corruption...and don't even think about living in murder town USA, Chicago.
I sometimes think Illinois should run on Fourecks rules: throw all politicians in jail as soon as they're elected, just to save time later. Then again, I'd be willing to support expanding that policy nationwide.
How about some details on these 2 or 3 governors? Going to jail or prison does not mean guilt any more than being arrested does or are you a practitioner of the new school of non-thought "Guilty until you prove your innocence"?
I think some families bring their kids to the bar. Earlier this year, I saw a toddler in my town acting like a drunk man about to start a fight. He must have learned to behave that way by spending plenty of time with drunk men who fought while their baby-mama's thought they were babysitting. Never let a blood babysit your kid.
Never let a blood babysit your kid.
Crypts are OK though.
pretty sure its cripp homie
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He received approval from the parish
"Parish". Funny that.
Yeah, Louisiana's traditional system should be entirely banned due to Separation of Church and State.
Just their term for counties
And "the blood of Christ" is just their term for wine - - - - - - - - -
"Adult use" businesses will bring in pedophiles. This is "concerned citizen" logic.
Looks like the British royal family isn't welcomed in that town. They have a tradition of getting tattoos when they visit Israel.
ha just read about this while watching my favorite show re the royals - "the windsors" (basically a documentary)
You mean " The Hanovers", right?
He should become a church
My church.
Happy Chandler, that reminds me of a church near me with a statue of a fit guy wearing almost nothing and tied to some wooden device. Anyway, the police officers trying to enforce morality by threatening violence against the sex club church reminds me of this very not safe for work video.
K&P have done some solid sketches but I kinda went off them after that sketch about country music. The best parody comes from fondness and familiarity, not cynicism and resentment.
Funny, "cynicism and resentment" has always been a part of country music, and of late it seems to have gotten worse.
Funny, "cynicism and resentment" would make a good name for a band
Now that you're gone. I'm hurt in so bad. It's almost like having you here.
Had a psych prof explain that this was an 'avoidance-avoidance conflict...sigh...
Care to cite anything?
What? citations? What do you think this is, a political discussion suite?
A sweet suite, but it should have been site - - - - - - - - - -
Almost time for meds.
Hey, he's an honorary Maori...
They're definitely not the same. Strip clubs are usually cleaner and the women are better looking, just to name a few differences.
Where I live the bar for strippers is so low that its a toss up on looks.
The one by my office has good fried chicken at the lunch buffet. The strip club, that is. I wouldn't eat at a tattoo parlor.
Also, the doorman recognized my wife and me. Very nice guy.
I oppose the more restrictive zoning laws on general principle, but in all fairness, artists work there, kids are banned there, and the clients might catch pathogens there. Tattoo parlors and strip clubs resemble each other.
They both have chairs, and probably tables, and bathrooms too. They resemble each other so closely they might as well be lumped into the same category.
Hell, EVERYTHING resembles a strip club. Ban 'em all!
I'm all for the guy setting up shop wherever, but god almighty WHEN will this damn tattoo craze burn out ? I thought we reached peak tattoo 4-5 years ago but...it...just...keeps...going.
Think it THROUGH people !
I have to cover up because I don't have any tattoos. I feel so out of place sometimes. But it does give me that rebel cachet among my peers. These days, you see a tat, you think, "Soccer mom."
I have to cover up because I don't have any tattoos. I feel so out of place sometimes
What's your profession?
Biker bounty hunter.
they do make 30 day tattoos if you need to for some special occasion
At least the whole "tramp stamp" craze seems to have subsided a little. Younger women seem more likely to get tattoos on their arms or legs or somewhere else a little more easily visible now. It seems like it's usually the 40 year old wannabe MILFs that have old and faded tramp stamps now.
Always thought I would have a better shot when they wore it like a flag. Just sayin'
See movie "Along came Polly"
Yep, though it's hard to say which is worse. The arm ones instantly gross me out.
My son's otherwise extremely hot GF has one on her abdomen below her arm. That's probably the least worst place to get one I suppose.
I used to think that some of the Parks and Recreation scenes where the hold public forums and have obvious "flyover country deplorable bumbkin" stereotypes say over the top stupid shit were going just a tiny bit too far in the satire department. Now I realize they probably didn't go far enough.
We have people who regularly do their citizen comments in song.
"They never included tattoo shops in any of their postings on the ordinance," Legendre says. "So no one knew they were included,"
"Ignorance of the Law is no excuse."
"... unless you're a cop".
Nice catch. 8-(
Ignorance is no excuse for a law, stupid. How many laws are there and can our lawmakers recite them all? Or are they ignorant of them?
And neither will ruin your neighborhood.
We live about five blocks down from a commercial corner that used to have a strip club. Other than no longer seeing some rather interestingly dressed women at the burger joint and convenient store across the street, couldn't tell you a damn thing that's different now that it's closed. We never noticed any trouble from it.
"The zoning change was passed last year, with the support of several concerned citizens."
I think you have a typo in the above. I've corrected it for you below:
"The zoning change was passed last year, with the support of several insufferable busybodies who can't mind their own damn business."
glad I could fix that for you ...
How about the reefer shops popping up all around?
According to Barak Obama, smoking the reefer is very bad; he said he smoked it as a young adult and it made him crazed.
That's why when he was the president and was asked during a Q & A about re-legalizing the reefer he said "Ain't gonna happen."
Further queries found this: The reefer is a gate way drug to LSD, which is the most addictive drug ever invented.
Well at least it's not a gateway drug to LDS. I'm not sure society could handle that.
Snark alert.
Polygamous patriarchs deserve the Hell on Earth they so richly deserve. Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Is not one angry, bitter spouse enough for any man? I throw myself on the mercy of the Court.
Why not open an art studio w leftover $? Seems like the closest thing to a tattoo parlor, & probably legal.
So a future Institute for Justice case ?
I have to admit that I wouldn't want one within 1000 miles of where I lived, or put up with the skeevy people that frequent them.
That said, it's really no different than any other business.
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He could become the first, ordained minister in the Church of Tattoo. That should clear all of the hurdles.
If localities are going to abuse the zoning process, how about they ban politician's offices within 5,000 feet of a church, community center, or a daycare, or any occupied dwelling?
And neither will ruin your neighborhood.
And that's why you see so many tattoo parlors and strip clubs on Martha's Vineyard and hardly any in the seedy rundown areas of my nearest big city. Oh ... wait ... reverse that.
"...Absolute Freedom and Independence..." George Washington.