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Trump Wants Russia Back in the G7: Reason Roundup

Plus: bipartisan bill would tell feds to buzz off on marijuana, prosecutors seize New York Times reporter's emails, and Trump may take pardon suggestions from NFL players.

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As Trump heads to the G7 meeting, he's still obsessing about Russia. After heckling Canada about the War of 1812 earlier this week, President Donald Trump is headed up to our northern neighbor to meet with other world leaders for the G-7 summit. It is not expected to go smoothly.

This morning, however, Trump seemed to be in high spirits about the day's events:

But Trump himself couldn't stop talking about Russia on Friday morning, suggesting to reporters that it was unfair to exclude Vladimir Putin from the gathering:

It doesn't matter what you call it. It used to be G-8, now Russia is out. Why are we having a meeting without Russia? Would recommend Russia should be a part of it.

The summit, which takes place in the Quebec town of La Malbaie, has drawn a wave of Quebec City protests that are being reported alternately as "mostly peaceful" and as a night of "violent protesters throw[ing] flares and burn[ing] flags in standoff with police."

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  1. As Trump heads to the G7 meeting, he’s still obsessing about Russia.

    Why should he be different than everyone else?

    1. Hello.

      Whatever you say Macron.

      /flicks Macron’s ears.

      1. You have to admit that it is adorable that the French think they would matter on the international stage without the US.

        1. It is funny how long and persistently the French have maintained the pretense that they are a major power. They have nukes and can put on a good parade, but there’s not a whole lot more to it.

          1. In all fairness to the French, at least they punch at their own weight. Germany is a bigass joke internationally with a joke military that cannot even defend their own borders.

            I say fuck them all, let them secure the Middle East and battle Russia, should not be the problem of the USA.

            1. But… you remember what happened the last time the US took a very isolationist approach? We were the balancing weight on the scales. If we step off again, things are bound to get very warm, very quickly.

            2. Agreed. Let’s move all of our troops out of Europe. That would be great.

              Oh, what’s that, Germany? That’s different for reasons, you say? Go sit back down at the kid’s table then

            3. That’s nothing. England still thinks they’re a major player on the world stage.

              India is more relevant than England; England’s only relevant as an ally of the U.S. (and possibly Australia, if you wanna stretch the definition).

            4. Technically France cannot even defend their own borders from the Germans who have a “joke military”.

              I would never underestimate the fighting spirit of the German Teutons.

              1. When the grown-ups resume control of America’s federal government, it should be time to revive relations with most of Europe, treat Russia like an adversary, and let Israel operate without American skirts to hid behind.

                1. Democrats wont be winning much of anything anytime soon.

                  The adults are running government under Trump with some kids on Twitter.

          2. I just imagine Japan rolling their eyes while Macron was talking. Sure, Japan is totally going to abandon its relationship with the US in favor of the feckless Europeans. OK. Make believe is fun.

            1. I’m too lazy to google, so: what the fuck is a feck, and are we only using it because of Samantha Bee?

              1. feckless (f?k?l?s)?
                adj. Lacking purpose or vitality; feeble or ineffective.

                Not that uncommon of a word. That just went over my head, didn’t it?

                God damn it…

                1. Nothing went over your head; I just didn’t know what a feck was other than a general sense that you don’t want to be feckless.

          3. That’s why the Permanent seats at the UN with France and the UK there is an utter fricken joke.

            1. France doesn’t deserve a seat, because they didn’t even win the god damn war. Unless we’re counting surrendering to the Nazis and then deporting Jews to their concentration camps as winning.

              1. If only they were better dancer’s to the Blitzkrieg Bop.

              2. For Sale

                40,000 French rifles, never fired, dropped once.

                Best offer

                1. Also humorous: Big talk from the president of a country that hasn’t won a war in 70 years.

                  The United States has been held to vague draws with a series of ragtag irregulars across the globe, despite an enormous resource advantage provided by American taxpayers.

                  1. “The United States has been held to vague draws with a series of ragtag irregulars across the globe, despite an enormous resource advantage provided by American taxpayers.”

                    Almost as if we were just training or something.

                  2. “”The United States has been held to vague draws with a series of ragtag irregulars across the globe, “‘

                    Gun grabbers have told me that’s not possible.

                    1. Yeah. I love that about the gun-hating lefties.

                      “You couldn’t possibly hold off the United States Military without an army of your own! Also, we need to end the 17 year war in Afghanistan because we’re getting our asses kicked.”

                    2. Exactly. Longest war in US history by poor irregulars with scavenged weapons holding off the most powerful military in the World.

    2. Trump is exactly like us, only more so!

      1. I’m shocked, SHOCKED!

  2. Crime in Louisville, Kentucky, is down despite massive cuts to the number of police officers on patrol.

    Or because of it?

    1. Or for reasons completely unrelated to the number of warm bodies the city sends out to respond to crimes that have already occurred?

      1. Swatting someone is no fun when only 2 cops show up.

    2. It’s the “Broward County Sheriff’s Office” method of crime control–crime magically goes down when you stop arresting people for committing crimes, and you only have to respond to blatantly obvious incidents like school shootings.

      1. and you only have to respond tostand around outside of blatantly obvious incidents like school shootings.

        Fixed.

  3. In Norwalk, Connecticut, bail for prostitution is set 100 times higher than bail for a marijuana charge.

    Yeah lets get those bails on marijuana up to par with the hookers!

  4. Crime in Louisville, Kentucky, is down despite massive cuts to the number of police officers on patrol.

    Sounds like there’s no one to report the crimes to!

  5. The first known DoJ seizure of email and phone records of a reporter in the Trump era is of a NYT reporter. The seizure went back to an email account associated with her college years.

    Every email signed with a Smiths lyric

    1. LIFE! WITHOUT! POSSIBILITY! OF! PAROLE!

  6. Watch live as @SenCoryGarder and I discuss our new legislation that would let states, territories, & tribes decide for themselves how best to regulate ______________

    I dare them to fill in the blanks with any other word.

    1. Wampum?

  7. Please tell me that Senator Warren got the words “peace pipe” somewhere in the bill!!!

  8. It’s time to reform American’s outdated marijuana policies. Watch live as @SenCoryGarder and I discuss our new legislation that would let states, territories, & tribes decide for themselves how best to regulate marijuana ? without federal interference.

    ah, the trying to anger no one but angering everyone approach to politics.

  9. Canada charges the U.S. a 270% tariff on Dairy Products! They didn’t tell you that, did they? Not fair to our farmers!

    All I want, now, is for him to say “not fair to Canda’s dairy producers!”

    1. The Con Man probably doesn’t know how the US subsidizes milk. We’re the bad player dumping product below cost.

      1. Canadian dairy farmers are guaranteed a profit.

      2. What does Obama, the Con Man have to do with milk?

  10. Trump really should lay off the NFL stuff or he’ll risk over playing that card I reckon.

    Let Lebron and NFL players drop the ball on that.

    1. Allow me to introduce Donald Trump to you.

  11. It doesn’t matter what you call it. It used to be G-8, now Russia is out. Why are we having a meeting without Russia? Would recommend Russia should be a part of it.

    G-8 stands for great 8 after last night.

    1. Send Ovechkin to the meeting. He’ll cross-check anyone that doesn’t lower tariffs.

      1. “You vant I break your face?”

      2. He’s a beast alright.

        I thought he was going to fuck the Stanley Cup to death on the ice.

        1. What happens in Vegas…

          1. Is posted on Facebook seconds afterwards so your family knows just how hard to disown you?

    2. Russia never belonged in the G-7 to begin with.

  12. I’m gonna ask all of those people to recommend to me … people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system and… I’m gonna take a look at those applications.

    Can Trump pardon people from paying fines to the NFL?

      1. *Enters draft as a tight end*

  13. If getting the feds out of marijuana was a good thing, then why are the feds there in the first place? Obviously they need to be there, and most everyone is better off that way.

    And that’s how you know government is always right. QED.

  14. Under the bipartisan proposal, the federal ban on weed would “not apply to any person acting in compliance with State law relating to the manufacture, production, possession, distribution, dispensation, administration, or delivery of marihuana.”

    They went with the h, huh. Did they cite the disproportionate effect of reefer laws on darkies and jazz musicians, too?

    1. Mary Hane hardest hit.

    2. That’s the hook. The Feds are gonna stay out of marijuana regulation/enforcement, but they’ll prosecute the shit out of ya for marijuana offenses.

      1. Damnit! I meant to spell the first one marihuana… I quit.

        1. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

          1. KMW never responds to my resignation letters anyway. Still waiting for my first paycheck too.

            1. Sorry brah, you’re too local.

    3. “Duke Ellington needs a pardon, man. That cat got busted for a single reefer.”

      – Elizabeth “Bleeding Gums” Warren

      1. Jazz man!

      2. Free Gene Krupa!!

    4. I guess if that’s how it’s spelled in earlier laws, they need to stick with it.

  15. Maryland gubernatorial candidate Richard Madaleno just delivered America’s first TV campaign ad featuring a same-sex kiss.

    I already made a “Take That” joke about this steaming pile of nonsonse elsewhere last night so instead I’ll just wait with baited breath for noted NYC homophobe Donald Trump’s condemning tweet.

    1. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen plenty of ads with political candidates hugging and kissing their kids.

      1. With tongue?

        1. In order to bring in the disaffected goober votes, politicians in backwards can’t-keep-up regions that have been the victims of bright flight often commit incest to prove that yes, they are exactly like their constituents.

          /Kirkland

      2. You only thought they were their kids.

    2. Was it 2 chicks? Tell me it was 2 chicks.

        1. Still better than The Last Jedi.

    3. I thought part of the purpose of a campaign ad was to at least attempt to persuade. I’m not sure how revenge-making out with someone, like you’re a middle school girl, accomplishes that

  16. President Trump: “You have a lot of people in the NFL in particular … they’re not proud enough to stand for our national anthem … I’m gonna ask all of those people to recommend to me … people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system and… I’m gonna take a look at those applications.”

    Holy shit, really? It’s probably not a great idea to make criminal justice reform depend on the awareness of dudes who get hit in the head for a living, but i wouldn’t have thought of Kim Kardashian as a force for good either.

    1. I think Kim Kardashian may be a towering intellectual in comparison to the president and most of the NFL kneelers. Also, she has a nicer butt (Russel Wilson is a close second).

      1. She did manage to turn a golden shower from Ray-J into billions of dollars, inescapable world fame for her entire family, and actual influence on major events, so she’s certainly not as brainless and vapid as she presents herself to be.

        1. Even a blind squirrel busts a nut every now and then

          1. Save this remark for when Trump tweets:

            “Proud to recognize the Armenian genocide. Which killed a yuge amount of people. SAD. Thank you Kim Kardashian for bringing this to my attention.”

        2. She’s got decent Int but low Wis.

          1. She’s got a decent Cha and a fake it until you make it attitude. From what I’ve seen and heard from her, she’s about average Int. My wife used to watch their show and I’d always end up putting on headphones and loud music to keep my ears from bleeding because of the stupidity.

            1. My wife turned on ‘queer eye for the straight guy’ the other day, and that’s when the fight started.

  17. “As Trump heads to the G7 meeting, he’s still obsessing about Russia”

    Is he the one who is obsessed? By the way, where are your new ape shit crazy Russia fever dreams, totally not obsessed person?

    1. Matt is deep in his sweat lodge, a week into his fasting cycle, high in the astral realm getting a scoop as we speak

  18. ‘as a night of “violent protesters throw[ing] flares and burn[ing] flags in standoff with police.”‘

    To be fair, that does sound like a normal peaceful night in Quebec.

    And since I know there are other Canadians here, what the heck happened with Doug Ford and the PC in Ontario? I just really don’t understand Canadian voters, especially how they change their vote for their local representative in order to get a majority for a different party. They did that nationally to get Trudeau in and where I live now I’ve heard so many people regret not having their last MP, who they thought was a great MP, but they had to vote “strategically”.

    I’m just glad I don’t live in that province anymore.

  19. Anthony Bourdain commited suicide yesterday/last night.

    In other news

    Celebrating Harvey’s downfall: Asia Argento embraces writer who shared her speech attacking Weinstein for using Cannes as his ‘hunting ground’, as pair stroll through Rome
    Asia Argento spent the weekend in Rome with reporter Hugo Clement, with the two seen smiling as they walked through the streets of Rome
    The pair were seen affectionately embracing just and laughing with a group of friends just a few weeks after attending the Cannes Film Festival
    Argento is also enjoying professional success, having been named as a new judge on the Italian version of X Factor and directing the recent Parts Unknown
    She was selected for that gig by her boyfriend of close to two years, Anthony Bourdain, who raved about the actress in a blog post last week

    1. Uhh damn. That is rather shady to say the least.

      1. A tatted-up headcase like that is definitely not worth killing oneself over.

  20. RIP Anthony Bourdaine.

      1. Does it?

    1. Jeez, I didn’t see that one coming.

    2. The interview that he did with Reason after the election was the last sane thing I’ve read in a while. His show was much better than that guy from Minnesota who’s always eating testicles.

      It’s tragic that he took his own life. RIP

      1. Zimmern? Shutcho mouth. He’s great too.

        1. Then why is he always relying on the same gag in every episode: “Watch me eat balls”

          1. I’ve seen many episodes where he doesn’t eat balls. Very likely the majority.

            1. I’m calling bullshit on this. Every time I watch that show he’s eating balls. It’s like he has a testicle clause in his contract that he demanded on being included.

              His breath must smell like balls.

              1. I think you were accidentally watching the Zipperman series on Pornhub. Easy mistake to make.

                1. That makes sense. I do watch the Travel channel and Pornhub at the same time

                2. It happens to all of us. You think you’re gonna watch tennis, and then suddenly there’s fucking.

    3. Who?

  21. “Tesla Model X accelerated seconds before Highway 101 crash, report finds”
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article
    /Tesla-Model-X-accelerated-seconds
    -before-Highway-12975702.php

    But wait, there’s MORE!
    “…while operating under the company’s semiautonomous Autopilot system…”

    “Semi-Autonomous”? WIH is that? Sorta like ‘I got it! I got it! I got it! You take it!’?
    Either the thing is autonomous, or it aint.

    1. I work in a very safety sensitive industry that is ‘computer aided.’ The people are there as legal fall guys. The company gets to reap the benefits of automation while putting off the liability on the monkeys with a button. Welcome to the future. For English, please press 2.

    2. Pretty much the car is in control almost all the time, but if something dangerous happens that the system can’t figure out it releases control and warns the driver.

      1. “”, but if something dangerous happens that the system can’t figure out it releases control and warns the driver.””

        Mayhem.

        Sorry human, if you can’t figure it all out in 500ms, what good are you.

        1. Considering the accepted reaction time is 1500msec, not much.

    3. It’s semi autonomous because it only works sometimes. You just don’t know when it won’t.

  22. I thought it was the G8? I musta missed when Russia left or was kicked out?

    Not that they really belonged in the first place.

    Neither does Canada to be frank. We’re there at the behest of the Americans. Trudeau would be wise to remember that.

    That little shit.

    1. When Russia invaded Crimea, you idiot. They got kicked out.

      1. Ah yes. I forgot about that.

        Thanks fake classical liberal guy!

      2. So Russia invaded a sovereign nation and Obama did nothing about it?

        Sounds like Obama was Putin’s “Franklin”.

        Putin: It ain’t easy being white,
        Franklin: It ain’t easy being brown!
        Putin: All this pressure to be bright,
        Franklin: I got children all over town!
        Putin: Sometimes when I lose my way,
        Franklin: Hell I get up, and I get down.
        Putin: We rely on one another,
        Franklin: ‘Cause you’re my bro!
        Putin: Not my brother.
        That’s right brother..
        Listen up, one time..
        Hey bro..
        Hit that guitar brother..
        Sometimes when I lose my way,.
        Franklin: I get up and hell I get down.
        Putin: We rely on one another. Listen up!
        Franklin: ‘Cause you’re my bro!
        Putin: You ain’t my brother. Oh.

        1. He did the only thing progressive know how to do, talk.

    2. Of course America wants to wear its hat to the summit. One must dress well.

    3. Hey, hey, hey- don’t get down on yourself, Canada. You have a major economy. And you’re the world’s largest economy’s primary trading partner. You belong.

      *gives Canada a noogie*

      Hang in there, champ.

      1. That’s why we’re in it. America needed an ally.

        Yeh, yeh. Canada is alright. But it doesn’t have the ‘finished product’ prowess of any in the G7.

    4. Tony the Tiger said it was G8!

      1. …nobody has ever called me a tiger before.

  23. Trump says Warriors or Cavaliers won’t be invited to the White House after NBA finals

    “I didn’t invite LeBron James and I didn’t invite Steph Curry. We’re not going to invite either team, but we have other teams that are coming,” Trump says.

    CNBC

    Come right out and call them “niggers” you racist pussy.

    1. “Come right out and call them “niggers” you racist pussy.”

      Come right out and admit you’re a fucking lefty imbecile, turd.

      1. Butt and his lefty friends consider all black people “niggers”, so they’re just waiting for other to join them in their racist bubble talk.

    2. I am not exactly sure why you think you can use that word to imply someone else is a racist and that makes it ok.

      1. Look, shreek is not very smart.

      2. I’m not implying the Con Man is a racist – he is a racist to the core. It doesn’t matter if you’re a Gold Star parent, a famous NBA/NFL player, or a US President he is denigrating minorities 24/7.

        1. Palin’s Buttplug|6.8.18 @ 10:16AM|#
          “I’m not implying the Con Man is a racist – he is a racist to the core.”

          You, with a lie/truth ratio of, oh, 99999/1 are going to tell us of racism in others?
          You slimy piece of lefty shit; fuck off.

        2. Using vile words to accuse others of wanting to use those words is the mark of an imbecile. You could have made your point without including the epitaph.

          That also applies to people who use similar language when talking about Obama.

          1. Trump is the vile racist and everyone but his white trash supporters admits it.

            1. Butt, tell us how Trump is racist, according to the voices in your head?

            2. And the best way to prove your moral superiority is to use racist language. Completely makes sense

            3. “Trump is the vile racist and everyone but his white trash supporters admits it.”

              Lie # -,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,000.

        3. Con Man= Obama

          Don’t worry, Obama is out of office and can never hurt America again.

    3. It’s strange* that you think the only possible reason that he wouldn’t invite them is because they’re black.

      *it’s not strange

    4. Look at shreiky projecting like a 24-screen movie theater.

    5. They’re the idiots who started about not going.

      He’s just calling them out.

      1. Totally Rufus. These half-ass SJWs are way out of their league with trying to play Trump.

        Trump has been called a racist, sexist, and nearly everything else. Trump still will call out people for their bullshit.

  24. “Under cloud, Trump to cut his visit to Canada short”
    […]
    “QUEBEC CITY ? President Trump is cutting short his first presidential trip to Canada this weekend, as trade and foreign policy disputes appear set to mar his planned summit with the leaders of the Group of Seven wealthy democracies.
    […]The summit threatens to mark the outer limit of international patience for the avowed nationalistic Trump, as leaders who had sought to cajole and “bromance” the president are embracing more hard-nosed tactics.”
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/world/article
    /Under-cloud-Trump-to-cut-his
    -visit-to-Canada-12977471.php

    They’re gonna make faces at him!

    1. The summit threatens to mark the outer limit of international patience for the avowed nationalistic Trump

      LOL, why don’t they just come out and call him a Nazi already?

      1. Turd isn’t there.

  25. the federal ban on weed would “not apply to any person acting in compliance with State law relating to the manufacture, production, possession, distribution, dispensation, administration, or delivery of marihuana.”

    ‘the federal ban on psilocybin would “not apply to any person acting in compliance with State law relating to the manufacture, production, possession, distribution, dispensation, administration, or delivery of marihuana.”‘

    ‘the federal requirement to pay income tax would “not apply to any person acting in compliance with State law relating to the manufacture, production, possession, distribution, dispensation, administration, or delivery of marihuana.”‘

  26. How about just removing “marihuana” from the controlled substances act entirely? But that might require Warren to admit that there are limitations on federal power.

  27. “And what’s the No. 1 way I piss off Donald Trump and the Republicans?” Madaleno asks before kissing his husband Mark Hodge on the lips. “Take that, Trump.”

    Oh, FFS! Madaleno should have had his husband wear a Trump mask for that kiss.

    1. “The ad first aired Thursday morning during “Fox & Friends” and will air across the state. “

      That’s the way he can be sure that Trump sees it.

    2. Have his husband wear a Trump mask and eat his asshole. That’s a start.

      Maybe get a few old men with saggy tits in there. That’ll help.

      1. You should probably seek help.

        1. Are you offering to “help” me?

      2. Ohh Jesus Christ!

    3. “And what’s the No. 1 way I piss off Donald Trump and the Republicans?” Madaleno asks before kissing his husband Mark Hodge on the lips. “Take that, Trump.”

      Trump’s been in the hospitality business forever, lives primarily in NY, and this idiot thinks he’s going to be offended by two guys kissing! Trump probably employs more gays than this guy will ever meet, for pete’s sake.
      But oh, so “edgy”, right?

      1. Trump might not be offended, but he would feign disgust for his bigoted followers and rant about how he needed to appoint more right-wing judges to put gays, blacks, women, and immigrants back in place.

        1. Can’t have them leave the reservation.

  28. Nazi gets 53,600 votes in CA Republican primary.

    https://goo.gl/dxi7cF

    1. The Socialists (Nazis were socialist too) got far more than 53,6000 votes in Commifornia.

      1. Of course actual Nazis are right wing and you’re little crusade to change the definition is ignored.

        1. “Of course actual Nazis are right wing…”
          Of course your illiterate nonsense will be uignored

        2. You’re still pimping that butt-hurt commie nonsense about Nazis being right-wingers?

          1. Far-right politics are politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of more extreme nationalist,[1][2] and nativist ideologies, as well as authoritarian tendencies.[3]

            The term is often associated with Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions

            Textbook.

            Of course conservatives don’t like books.

            1. In shreiky’s world, Wikipedia = books.

            2. Butt, here’s what a book link looks like.
              Amazon book link

            3. “The first years of Hitlers regime saw the imposition of a series of controls n German businesses that were unprecedented in peacetime history
              […]
              As we have already seen, the New Plan, which effectively regulated access of each and every German firm to foreign raw materials, created a substantial new bureaucracy, which controlled a large slice of German industry”
              “Wages of Destruction”, Pg 106.
              And Tooze goes on to point out, like the Herman Goring Steel Works, the intent was to nationalize all large businesses; IOWs, he was tracking Lenin’s efforts from a start, pretty much month for month.
              Lefties never read anything that might challenge their lies.Go ahead, turd, call that tail a leg; there are still only 4 of ’em.

              1. The New Plan, The New Deal, what’s the difference.

            4. Butt, here’s an article about Hitler and his being a socialist.
              Independent article

          2. That must be one hell of a scale that Nazi Socialism is considered ‘right wing.’ Does that put Stalin era communism in the middle of the road somewhere?

            1. What is “equal stuff” about killing over 10 million minorites/Jews?

              Seriously, North Korea is Republican then.

              ITS RAT THAR IN THAR NAME! THE REPUBLIC OF NORTH KOREA!!!

              You as stupid as LoveCons and Sevo.

              1. What is “equal stuff” about killing over 10 million minorites/Jews?

                So you’re saying the Nazis are right-wingers because they oppressed fewer people than the Commies did?

              2. “ITS RAT THAR IN THAR NAME! THE REPUBLIC OF NORTH KOREA!!!”

                This is what passes for evidence when you have a bad coke habit.

              3. “”What is “equal stuff” about killing over 10 million minorites/Jews?

                Seriously, North Korea is Republican then.”””

                Sounds more like FDR.

            2. The Nazis became “right-wingers” after Hitler violated the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. It was a cute trick considering that fascism as a socio-economic system wasn’t any more “conservative” than any other run-of-the-mill version of European socialism.

            3. Stalinism is the new Libertarianism.

              Butt says so.

            4. Far-right politics are politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of more extreme nationalist,[1][2] and nativist ideologies, as well as authoritarian tendencies.[3]

              The term is often associated with Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions

              RIF

              1. Why are you asswipes defending “right wingers” anyway?

                You’re supposed to be libertarians?

                Guffaws….

                1. Why is a waste of carbon molecules like shrieky calling socialists conservatives?

                  He’s supposed to be a libertarian?

                  What a hicklib.

              2. Look at shrieky citing Wikipedia again.

              3. Nazis were just more racist and very German about their Socialism than regular socialists.

                1. The Nazis were socialist to the extent that they believed conquering Europe (especially in the east), and dividing the spoils among the German people would be good for everybody in Germany.

                  Nazi “socialism” was almost entirely propaganda.

                  They hated capitalism for its association with Jews and its inherent support for individualism and liberal values. They called themselves “socialist” because so many Germans blamed capitalism for the economic hardships of the Wiemar Republic–not because the Nazis wanted to nationalize the means of production and redistribute wealth to the proletariat.

                  There are a tremendous number of people in the world who still can’t tell the difference between socialism, communism, fascism, and capitalism.

                  It is not necessary to smear the Nazis as socialists. It is not necessary to smear socialists as Nazis. Contrasting socialism with capitalism is more than adequate. Criticizing the Nazis for their totalitarianism is more than adequate. Furthermore, you make capitalism look bad by associating it with people who can’t tell the difference between fascism and socialism–and not just the well educated. People who see you smear Nazis as socialists arne’t likely to start thinking of socialists as Nazis. They’re more likely to start thinking of libertarians who say such things as goofballs.

                  1. “Nazi “socialism” was almost entirely propaganda.”

                    You need to do more reading, Ken. Specifically that “Wages of Destruction” by Tooze.
                    By the beginning of the war, ag hadn’t been collectivized, but it was entirely under (nominal) government control, much as (again) what Lenin had a accomplished in a similar time span.
                    Business was largely already under government controls (see above), and was planned to be almost completely under control after the war; Hitler did not trust the business people one bit.
                    And, again, the time span is quite similar to the controls Lenin managed.
                    The difference was that the Nazis were “national”, with the intent of bringing huge swaths of land into the German nation. The Soviets were “international”, hoping to export their particular brand of socialism

                    1. “Ag hadn’t been collectivized, but it was entirely under (nominal) government control”

                      Fascism brings everything under the service of the state–which the Nazis most certainly did for the war effort.

                      That does not make them socialists.

                      Collectivists maybe, but not socialists.

                      Socialism is about both seizing the means of production and the redistribution of wealth–from each according to their ability, to each according to their need. The Nazis executed socialists when they could find them. The socialists schemes to seize the means of production and remake society so as to redistribute wealth ran directly contrary to the Nazis wanting to usher the means of production into the service of the military effort.

                      The Nazis simply were not socialists. They may have called themselves that, but they lied about a lot of things. It was marketing, nothing more.

                    2. The Nazi’s were most definitely socialists. They explicitly called for centralized control over the means of production. Their platform specifically called for:

                      13. We demand the nationalization of all enterprises (already) converted into corporations (trusts).

                      14. We demand profit-sharing in large enterprises.

                      15. We demand the large-scale development of old-age pension schemes.

                      16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle class; the immediate communalization of the large department stores, which are to be leased at low rates to small tradesmen. We demand the most careful consideration for the owners of small businesses in orders placed by national, state, or community authorities.

                    3. Just because their variant isn’t your preferred doesn’t make it something other than a form of socialism.

                    4. My “preferred variant” is the one where industry is nationalized and the purpose is the redistribution of wealth?

                      No. Any “variant” apart from that fails the definition of socialism.

                      And if you’re pointing to campaign slogans as true indications of Nazi history or ideology, you’re barking up the wrong tree.

                      Republican fiscally conservative election rhetoric has more credibility than the Nazi propaganda ever did. And if you believe in their propaganda, that hardly makes their propaganda more credible.

                      Fascism is not socialism even if fascism is also collectivist, and the Nazis were not socialists.

                    5. This info is translated from Joseph Goebbels, head of the Nazi propaganda machine.
                      Calvin College Nazi propaganda pamphlet translation from 1932

                    6. Are you quoting Nazi propaganda as a credible source?

                      Do you not see the irony?

                    7. Propaganda still has an element of truth. Otherwise the targets of the propaganda will never believe it.

                      It is interesting that I have never met a non-lefty like you Ken who does not see that Nazis were socialists.

                    8. Ken, the Nazis executed Communists, Socialists, Capitalists, and anyone else who would not cooperate with the Nazi ways of doing things.

                      Many of the Marxist Socialists would not jump on board with Nazi Socialists.

                      The Nazis seized means of production. Not all but some. Hitler felt that he did not need to seize the businesses that would cooperate. Hitler did not want to kill Germans if he didnt have too. Unlike Russia, Germany did not have a seemingly endless supply of people. Hitler needed as many people to fight or build the means to fight. Hitler certainly needed the rich business owners and aristocrats on his side. Killing them and stealing their property would have been communism. Convincing business type to cooperate through threat of force is a Socialist specialty.

                      Why would the Nazis lie about being Socialists when Hitler told everyone that would listen that the enemy were the Communists and Socialists in Russia along with their allies?

                      The Nazis fought the Socialist Republic in Spain. Who did the Nazis side with? Franco- a socialist. The Spanish Republicans needed any help it could get and really on the COMINTERN sent help.

                      There a hundred different types of socialists and they seem to change their stripes as public opinion turns against them. They battle each other for power all the time.

                  2. Ken, the Nazis controlled the means of production of various business fields and industries. Not all but a lot. By the end of WWII, most means of production was controlled by the Nazis in one way or another.

                    Socialism does not require government control all means of production.

                    Nazism is Socialism with a German nationalism and racist flair never seen before.

                    Hitler just felt the Communists and Socialists of the COMINTERN variety had taken the wrong path. Nazism was socialism through military conquering. COMINTERN was Socialism through pamphlets and political subterfuge.

                    1. It actually doesn’t surprise me that you cite Nazi propaganda as if it were factual evidence of something.

                      I’ve never seen anybody so easily swayed by propaganda. You’d make a great study for somebody’s doctoral thesis.

                    2. So Nazis trying to convince Germans why Nazi Socialism is better than Soviet Socialism is not convincing?

                      Not sure what is convincing evidence to you in this area then.

                      I have this feeling you want Nazis to be their own special evil and think they were destroyed in 1945. You acted personally upset about Soros-Nazi ties too.

                      Hate to break it to you but Nazism is still around. Nazism is even more prevalent if you allow non-Germans to be socialists with nationalist racist hatred.

                      I would advise you don’t underestimate zee Nazis Ken.

    2. Commie gets 12M votes in national election:
      https://www.quora.com/Why-did-
      Sanders-lose-the-popular-vote-
      by-over-3-6M-votes-to-Clinton-in-2016

        1. Don’t care.

    3. CA has so much to be proud of.

    4. There is no ‘California Republican Primary’, shriek. There’s only the ‘jungle primary’ the Dems set up.

      In that primary, you and your fellow leftists can vote for the fascists you favor without having to worry that someone will notice.

  29. The final nails in pot prohibition’s coffin? The “Strengthening the Tenth Amendment Through Entrusting States” (STATES) Act, introduced by Sens. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) yesterday, would “amend the Controlled Substances Act to provide for a new rule regarding” marijuana.

    There is no authority in the Constitution to ban any product or service. You don’t need the 10th Amendment. Just enforce the limitations on government banning things which makes the Controlled Substances Act unconstitutional.

    The Prohibitionists knew this which is why they passed the 18th Amendment to ban alcohol.

    1. Exactly. How did we go from needing an amendment to ban a substance to a group of unelected people in the FDA or DEA can basically ban anything that they want?

      If the founders messed up anything, it’s by using the words “necessary and proper” and assuming that we could maintain restraint among the ambiguity that clause allows.

      1. In the founder’s defense, they wrote “shall not be infringed” in a different portion of the constitution and we’ve all seen what happened there.

        1. “Congress shall make no law” isn’t exactly pussyfooting around the issue either, and, yeah. :-/

          1. Very telling that absolute limits language like “Congress shall make no law” is deemed to allow for government exceptions.

      2. They knew what they were doing. People at the time even said that the necessary and proper clause, the general welfare clause, and the commerce clause gave Congress the power over virtually anything.

    2. Interesting that Warren is going for the 10th amendment, states’ rights angle.

  30. Blogger Proposes TV Show From Hell: Right-Wing SNL, Starring James Woods, Ann Coulter, and More

    Future potential hosts could include Rush Limbaugh, Adam Carolla, Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, Michelle Malkin, Nick Searcy, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Jon Voight, Dennis Miller, Angie Harmon, Larry the Cable Guy, Dean Cain, Pat Sajak, Tucker Carlson and Mike Rowe, just to name a few.

    https://goo.gl/uMJxYu

    H&R Peanut Fun!

    1. Fact 1: Sevo refers to Palin’s Buttplug as “Turd” all the time
      Fact 2: Palin’s Buttplug is now discussing peanuts.

      Hmm…

      1. This line of thinking could certainly get cornier.

        1. What shitty puns are these?

    2. Turd head voices fantasy!

    3. Yes, Mike Rowe, what a terrible choice for a host. People would much prefer to see… *googles recent SNL hosts*…Amy Schumer. Ha

  31. When Trump was talking about “America first” during the campaign, a lot of journalists, who turned out to be pants-shitters, dismissed it as populist rhetoric. It’s kinda turned out to be anything but.

    In foreign policy, “America first” has come to mean realism. It means pursuing American interests actively rather than subverting them in the hopes that frustrating our own apparent interests (whatever they are) will be good for the world. Yeah, this means working with people like Putin in places like Syria, when it’s in our best interests to do so, and it means Trump pulling out of the Paris climate accord–if the accord isn’t in the interests of the United States.

    This is in sharp contrast to the 16 years of foreign policy that preceded Trump. During the Obama administration, they wouldn’t collaborate with someone like Putin (not even if it’s in America’s interests to do so) because he’s icky, and the Obama administration signed onto the Paris climate accord specifically because it called for the U.S. to make sacrifices for the benefit of the developing world. “America first” is even in contrast to the Bush the Lesser administration, who seemed to be hellbent on doing what was best (as he saw it) for the people of Iraq–American interests supposedly be a function of that.

  32. In trade policy, it’s much the same thing. Regardless of whether I agree that freer trade is in the best interests of the U.S., Trump seems to be pursuing American interests as he sees them–and if Macron, Trudeau, and the Mexicans don’t like it, Trump is telling them to lump it. My read of Trudeau’s and Macron’s reactions is that they know preserving a trade relationship with the U.S. is more important than whatever Trump is asking them to give up, but they can’t make it look to the voters back home like they capitulated to Trump, especially since elitists everywhere have portrayed Trump as such an idiot. Watching journalists and other elitists lie in that bed they made doesn’t make me feel sorry for them, but seeing trade made even less free does make me feel sorry for us.

    Moral of the story? Focusing on how Trump’s bad trade proposals make Macron and Trudeau angry and sad is only the second most pathetic critique of the Trump administration’s trade policy proposals possible, but it’s still pathetic. If you can’t think of an argument for why trade is in the best interests of the U.S., go talk to Sullum or a real libertarian somewhere. If it hasn’t occurred to you that voting Americans care more about what trade means for them than whether it makes the elitist politicians of France and Canada angry and sad, then go soak your head, look in the mirror, and try to explain why you’re not smart enough to understand why “America first” resonates with, you know, Americans.

    1. why “America first” resonates with, you know, Americans

      economically inadequate, half-educated, superstition, bigoted, stale-thinking, easily frightened, gullible, authoritarian Americans? sure

      1. Actually, Americans who don’t think policy should first take their interests into consideration are the people who need to have their ability to think independently questioned.

        What’s more gullible than someone who doens’t care if their interests matter to government?

  33. How do they know that the apparent drop in crime in Louisville isn’t due to people not bothering to call the cops, knowing they are so undermanned that calling won’t do any good? That happened in a small city near me. They voted to do away with their police department to save money, and contracted with the county sheriff to provide policing. Their rate of reported crimes plummeted, because people don’t bother to report most crimes knowing the sheriff’s deputy probably won’t respond for hours and will do little or no investigating.

  34. But Trump himself couldn’t stop talking about Russia

    Self awareness levels in the negative.

  35. One thing that might be more intuitively popular with Americans than making the French and the Canadians squeal, is making French-Canadians squeal–but that’s only because we associate them with both the French and the Canadians.

    And speaking of squealing, did anybody else hear there was a hockey game last night?

    I can’t fucking believe it.

    I grew up rooting for Dennis Maruk. You had to learn to love hockey back then–because they weren’t about to win anything. There was very little in the way of organized leagues to play in Maryland and Virginia back then. There was a pond that froze over in the winter and a pick-up game after school. I know there are other teams who have gone longer without winning a championship, but I don’t know that there’s ever been a team that was as consistently bad as the Capitals were–for so long. Before Ovechkin showed up, we were the biggest joke in the league–and had been since the ’70s. Better teams folded and moved elsewhere–Atlanta did it twice!

    Over the years, you learned to love the sport, that loving the game was also fun–even if you don’t win . . . then this happens, and it seems to justify all that faith, which wasn’t really faith at all. I didn’t think we’d win.

    The hockey gods are some fickle bitches, but God love ’em. We are not as talented as we were last year, but what it took was character rather than talent. There’s something really Canadian about that–no wonder they love it so much.

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