More Yale Students Demand Emotional Support Animals, Which Are Just Pets
Federal law says universities have to make "reasonable accommodations" for students who claim emotional trauma.

Like most universities, Yale does not allow students to keep pets in their dorm rooms. But federal laws forbid discrimination on the basis of disability status, so university officials have to make accommodations for students who claim to rely on "emotional support animals."
There are now 14 such animals living on campus—a substantial increase since last year, when just one emotional support animal dwelt at Yale, notes The College Fix.
While the animals undoubtedly provide some comfort to their owners, the science behind emotional support animals rests on a shaky foundation. The relevant expert is actually a Yale doctoral candidate in psychology named Molly Crossman, who tells The Yale Daily News, "There isn't research that speaks directly to emotional support animals. There's little directly on that that I'm aware of. Although we generally agree that science informs policy, often it just doesn't work out like that."
Don't blame Yale for humoring its students' obnoxious requests. Students at Grand Valley State University and the University of Nebraska have successfully sued their institutions for the right to keep emotional support animals. Yale would probably like to avoid such suits, which are possible because provisions in the Fair Housing Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act mandate "reasonable accommodations" for people with disabilities. As Sarah Chang, associate director of Yale's Resource Office on Disaiblitites, tells The Yale Daily News:
Yale can't really do anything to prevent controversy because we have to follow the law. We're trying to implement [the policy] as smoothly as possible here within the Yale community by working to ensure that our rules are fair both for the people who are requesting the animals on campus and for everyone else who then has to live in a community and share the space with those animals.
The comedian George Carlin had a famous routine in which he pointed out that many words and phrases get stretched out over time, their true meaning disguised by jargon. His main example was "shell shock," the term for soldiers who were mentally scarred by the horrors of war, which became "battle fatigue," then "operational exhaustion," and finally "post-traumatic stress disorder." "The humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now," he observed.
Carlin died in 2008, so he didn't live quite long enough to see PTSD watered down in a different way: College students now use it to refer to far more mundane emotional difficulties. Along the same lines, "emotional support animal" is just a euphemism for "pet." There's nothing wrong with wanting a pet—I have two dogs, and thus have opted to live in a dog-friendly apartment complex. But let's not use junk mental health science to create a new category of emotional entitlement that university officials are legally obliged to satisfy.
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At some point, don't things like this degrade the prestige of a Yale degree?
If Prescott, George H., and W Bush, did not degrade the prestige of a Yale degree, Bill and Hillary certainly did.
Also not being Harvard.
What color is the sweater tied around your neck?
Sadly, not hemp colored.
All the Ivy League schools are jokes, exclusive social clubs, nothing more
Sour grapes at table 4.
"You only hate rich people because you were too stupid to make money." -evil right wing plutocrat.
"You only hate Harvard because you were too stupid to get in and get a full ride." -woke Progressive man he f the people.
It's hard to degrade something that's already worthless.
Ask KM-W
"At some point, don't things like this degrade the prestige of a Yale degree?"
... More than already?
May be impossible...
At any rate, so long as pets are allowed and owners pay the full freight for damage, upkeep and care for them, what the hell?
Oh, and if any other snowflake can claim fear, emotional upset or trauma CAUSED by such pets, the school should be held non-responsible for any such damages... the suit shall be between the pet owner and the 'victim' ONLY.
How's THAT sound?
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I'm guessing it's a generational thing: Going off to college was, in part, a celebration of independence, not a transference of the dependency onto some other substitute 'mommy' figure.
I wonder how much of this generational change is from the internet making it so much easier to keep in touch? Used to be you saw your parents every day, until you went to college or joined the military or got a job; then it took snail mail letters or long distance phone calls, so there was a distinct shift. Now people text each other from the next room because it's so much simpler, so college is no more than just a different set of walls.
I don't seriously propose it, but I don't seriously deny it either. Just don't know.
30 years ago my roommate's mom called him every day at 10am to ask about his breakfast, sleep, and homework status. Helicopter parenting isn't new, just more prominent.
Jesus. I think if my mom did I'd change my outgoing voicemail to tell mom to fuck off. Either that or an Archer-like elaborate voicemail hoax.
When?
That's a serious question. If I can remember my legal Latin right, the term is something like "en loco parentis", meaning "standing in for the parent" or something like that.
Go back far enough (meaning before the end of WW2) and you see a lot of colleges as acting as a sort of "finishing school" for the kids if the wealthy. It wasn't until returning soldiers went to college en masse that colleges started backing away from that kind of mentality, and many of the Ivy Leagues still keep some visage of it.
That's a large part of why so many colleges require "liberal arts" credits, because they weren't/aren't just about learning a highly skilled trade, but in becoming gentleman and ladies.
Which is to say... Universities have always been weird.
That's a large part of why so many colleges require "liberal arts" credits, because they weren't/aren't just about learning a highly skilled trade, but in becoming gentleman and ladies.
Well, arguably it was intended to teach 'critical thinking', whatever you want to say that is. Although I wouldn't necessarily disagree with your terminology, but it should at least be mentioned.
Which is to say... Universities have always been weird.
That's a fact. The silly hats and shawls are...ludicrous in this day and age. At least to me.
In the old days, a liberal arts degree was a generalist degree that focused on critical thinking (as you pointed out). Its really only more recently that universities have transitioned from providing primarily LA training into more focused voc-tech training. And, of course, its even more recently that LA degrees changed from generalist critical thinking to the conformist crap they are today.
"Going off to college was, in part, a celebration of independence, not a transference of the dependency onto some other substitute 'mommy' figure."
Going to Yale was never a celebration of independence. It has the reputation of being the most paternalistic of the elite universities.
Expecting a legit diagnosis by a professional is perfectly "reasonable" in this context.
No professional in the soft sciences is worth a shit, let alone a PhD. There are far too many professors whose only job is teaching their replacements.
Cool story.
What makes a science hard or soft?
Reproducibility, at the very least.
Do they graduate more than replacements? Do any of their graduates go on to productive careers actually producing more than they consume?
If you get a degree in sociology and become a professor of sociology, you are just a replacement. If your degree gets you a job unconnected with any aspect of it, then it's not productive. A journalist with a degree in sociology is using the parchment, not the degree; it could have been in anything.
A good rule of thumb is "did they have to take Calc 2"?
If the top of my head, the only hard science that fails that test is biology.
Generally speaking, it's natural sciences versus social sciences.
If you have $50, I can hook you up with at least three "professionals" including an MD that would be happy to exchange the money for a diagnosis.
Can you get me a toe? With nail polish on it?
That would not meet my definition of legit.
I have two dogs
Yorkies are barely dogs.
In fact, they're barely anything. I saw one get blown away by a stiff breeze one time.
They are pretty good at killing rats. Though not the toy ones, which are ridiculous. I saw a pair once that were so small, they had to leap over pieces of gravel to walk down a gravel trail.
2 dogs, for particularly high values of yorkies.
At least Yale are the Bulldogs!!!
I am sure Robby tried to claim them as emotional support animals after KMW complained that one of them tore up her office drone while the other one ate her spliff.
Can I rant again about people who consider their pets their children? And call themselves mommy and daddy to their dogs and cats? I HATE to see people in the grocery store with their damn dogs.
How is it people can get all worked up about not calling transexuals by some pronoun and not being forced to acknowledge Caitlyn Jenner as a woman, but everyone is supposed to acknowledge your DOG as your KID?
I hate to see people on the train with their damn kids. WTF happened to taking a school bus? I have a long ass commute and I often can't sit down because all the seats are taking by f'ing toddlers.
/rant
I've never come across this behavior except as tongue in cheek.
I've never come across this behavior except as tongue in cheek.
Where have you been?
People on the train with kids aren't nearly the equivalent of people in the stores with dogs. Unless those kids are naked and pee on the floor or worse. Or growl or bite you, or chase a cat down the aisles.
Perhaps cats I'd consider in a store or train. Not dogs or miniature horses.
I've never seen any of these things happen. Sorry.
But FWIW I'd prefer people left both their kids and their pets at home.
With you on that.
I've seen an "emotional support animal" roam the aisle and piss on the floor of a commercial aircraft. It's clearly an abused loophole in the ADA that forces companies policies to be disregarded to protect the nonexistent "needs" of these people that are so self important and entitled they feel they should be able to take their pets anywhere ands everywhere
A buddy of mine went through all the steps to get his dog set up as an emotional support animal just to see if he could get approved without any type of actual disability.
He was approved, and his never-trained Corgi has it's papers to emotionally support someone without any diagnosed condition whatsoever.
So yeah, I don't have much faith in this particular carve out. It's just a fee you pay to be able to ignore policy.
My guess is a combination of the very, very vague definition of mental illnesses and fear of the ADA.
People on the train with kids aren't nearly the equivalent of people in the stores with dogs. Unless those kids are naked and pee on the floor or worse. Or growl or bite you, or chase a cat down the aisles.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone with their dogs or cats at a store either, other than at PetSmart, and those animals were all clearly house broken.
That said, yes, leave your damn pets at home. If you're so pathetic that you can't even leave the house without your precious "emotional support animal" in tow then you should probably just have your groceries and everything else delivered so that you never have to leave the house.
Cat down the aisles? Like cats wander down to Powell Street Station to catch the N - Judah out to the Sunset
Cat down the aisles? Like cats wander down to Powell Street Station to catch the N - Judah out to the Sunset
I saw people wishing each other happy mother's day for being a Dog Mom this year. Last year it was wishing happy mother's day to old maids who like kids but never had their own. We are in peak stupidity.
We are in peak stupidity.
No such thing. Stupidity is the world's only infinite resource.
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
Albert Einstein.
Amen!
200 years ago you could own another person, the state of Massachusetts required folks to belong to a church, atheists couldn't hold government office in quite a few states, sodomy was a criminal offense nationwide, women couldn't vote our own property in many places...
So today may be *silly*, but I don't think we're anywhere close to "peak stupidity".
I've never come across this behavior except as tongue in cheek.
Same here. I've yet to meet a person who literally thinks their dog is their child, and if I ever do I'll make sure to ask them when they lost took their meds.
There are some animal people who never had children who kind of... substitute.
However, I have a confession to Paloma's point, I have real children, and also have a dog (had real children long before owning a pet), but I refer to my friends that my dog has particular affection for as "uncles and aunties".
I'm a professional trainer and used to own a doggie daycare, groom shop and boarding kennel in a large city. I know plenty of people who consider their dogs their babies or kids. They post Mother's Days cards to other "pet parents" and they swear that having a dog is exactly the same as having a child so they deserve to celebrate Mother's Day too. They would gladly give up their own lives to save their "fur babies".We had to walk a fine line between not offending them (because $$$) and not actually referring to them as their children.
They post Mother's Days cards to other "pet parents" and they swear that having a dog is exactly the same as having a child so they deserve to celebrate Mother's Day too.
Well, sure, they're compensating for the fact that no man wanted to impregnate them.
I'll do it.
Right on. They all look the same in the dark.
Stop trying to steal Crusty's gig.
I believe this means you are no man. Or something.
And there we have it...the counterpart to the InCel...the mentally cattywompus dog owners
My favorite scene in In The Bedroom is when the father is sitting in the lawyer's office and he sees the "family picture" of the lawyer, his wife and their two dogs.
It is both ridiculous and not worth caring that much about
Unlike people who go through sex change operations wanting to be referred to by another pronoun.
If it makes you feel better, that doesn't upset me either.
If it's one of the existing pronouns offered by the English language, yeah.
If it's a made-up pronoun, nuh-uh.
Neither upsets me. Only upsets me if the law is involved, which is increasingly is.
I'm scornful of made up pronouns and suffixes, such as "Chican@" to refer to both male and female 2nd generation Mexican Americans. I guarantee you run that by a Mexican in Mexico and they will think you are a crazy gringo. Or gring@ if you prefer.
I'm way past scornful of laws that mandate using those preposterous changes to the language such as those in Canada.
Same for Latinx. Never seen any Latin American use that one.
How the hell are you supposed to pronounce that? Latin-ex? La-teenex? Latinks?
If it's a made-up pronoun, nuh-uh.
What about insisting everyone address you as "Your imminent lordship, the grand potentate"
Or "The Ayatollah of rock and rolla"?
Asking for a friend.
The latter is explicitly constitutional, so it must be good.
I always preferred the Earl of Funk
You do know you can always fall back to they/them if you can't tell or don't want to acknowledge, right?
And if someone wants to give you crap about how it's not "proper English" or some such rot, just hit them over the head with Shakespeare. It's been part of the accepted usage for centuries.
I'm not going to acknowledge titles of royalty. No matter how rude it makes me.
What about the King of Beers? Huh?
Confession time - those pronouns proffered by the English language are made up also.
They were made up to meet a need. That need has changed - and so will the language adapt to those changes.
Nope, I don't care about that either
That gives you a great opportunity to ask 'mommy' or 'daddy' how drunk they had to get to fuck a cat/dog.
I've never seen anyone who's expected me to acknowledge their dog as their kid. I've certainly seen plenty who've acted like the fethers were, even in public, but none who've expected me to act as if it was.
So they're more sane than transgenders and there allies. That's pretty frightening.
*their*
We should all commend Reason for providing us with an emotional support "debating" companion - Tony. I know that Citizen X, BDOYB, John, FOE, Sevo, Just Say'n, and sarc sure appreciate Reason for this.
Citizen X is physically incapable of feeling gratitude.
It only seems that way around here because y'all don't give me much to work with.
Sorry a never ending circle jerk with Crusty, Chipper, and myself isn't good enough.
The chafing...
Once it all callouses over you can finally give yourself entirely to the bliss.
What's so hard about Bring Your Own Damn Beer?
Or are you calling me...Bring Dom Or You're Booted? That seems too high-brow for me.
Oh, that's what it means.
Good hosts never require guests to supply their parties.
I find it unlikely you've never encountered BYOB, and by extension BYODB, but I tend to agree which is why I always provide plenty of Shiner Bock. If you want Dom, you better bring your own though and if you don't like Shiner you'll need to drink whatever it is that my fianc? bought.
Fiance or fiancee?
The easy (and sexist) way to remember your fiancee and fiance is "women are fiancees because they want more".
Or you can just hurry up get married and not have to worry about it anymore.
-a man that has a two year engagement to his fiance.
Had. Stupid autocorrect. We got married five years ago this August.
Or if you've ever studied French and remember that more "e"s makes it feminine.
Except in the case of "employee." (In the early 20th century, though, it was often spelled "employe" when referring to a Male worker, because of that Froggish rule.)
Eh. What do you think more folks will remember, a stupid sexist joke, or something about French that doesn't involve sticking something in your mouth??
_______
?Toast, fries, or kissing.
Maybe xhe wants to be referrred to as f?anc?
Then they should know that most folks (and autocorrect) won't bother with the accents, giving a false impression of a female spouse-to-be.
Either?
Anyone requiring an "emotional support animal" to cope with day-to-day living is too fragile to be in college.
-jcr
This.
Seconded.
For a college kid, any emotional support animal would only make life more stressful and is likely to alienate them from their peers. Of course they will deny it, but it's just common sense. And oh, don't travel with your emotional support pet during the holidays and then complain about emotional distress after you flush it down the toilet because "that's what they told me to do".
Or, pay the extra ticket for your dog on the flight.
And keep it in a pet carrier unobtrusively lodged under the seat.
Otherwise, dogs belong outside.
If the airline willingly agrees to allow the dog in some capacity, then I am fine with whatever that may be.
Otherwise, dogs belong outside.
What, like, strapped to the wing of the airplane?
There was a big to do a few weeks ago when a flight attendant insisted a family of passengers stowe their dog in the OVERHEAD BIN. Dog suffocated. Some people have zero common sense.
Dog carrier under the seat is fine. I've traveled with passengers sitting next to me with their dog in a carrier under the seat and didn't even know until we disboarded. Don't really see how anyone could object.
These days I do not believe this would alienate then from their peers, but celebrated!
I suspect most of the people wanting an "emotional support animal" probably aren't actually suffering from PTSD or anything else and just want to have their pets with them. In which case, so what? They found a loophole.
To be sure, some are also just fragile snowflakes who need to harden the fuck up.
Get rid of the law and let private operations decide whether they want to screw blind people over. The psychological justification approaches 100% hooey, and is, of course, a pretext.
Since I have a major, real illness, I bet I could get an actual MD to prescribe me a service chimp, trained in kung fu.
Have a pet friendly dorm and charge 2x for it. Problem solved.
But in doing so run afoul of the equal protection rights of a protected group (disabled people). It's BS, but it's BS with legal precedent.
We're ALL disabled now. Who are you to other others?
More like trained in Fling Pu... amirite?
Totally correct.
I don't have an issue with seeing eye dogs. They're working dogs that have been well trained to ignore any stimuli, not shit or piss where they're not supposed to, and essentially seen and not heard. I've known a couple of blind people before, and once you get used to the idea of them having a dog by their side at all times you hardly even notice its there.
A service chimp, OTOH.
Of course. I don't think anyone much disputes that. I was just being libertarian above.
pray for Mojo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpG4R3Sjf4Y
So they claim. Last week I spent 4 hours beside a dog with its "Service Dog" vest and harness on. What service it was providing was unclear. It saw and paid attention to everything, as did its human. It sniffed, woofed, wagged, and begged as people passed by. For an ordinary small dog it behaved well--I'm not complaining--but it did make me wonder how many "service animals" have completed the training to ignore all stimuli, and how many of them remember it if they did.
Right turn, Clyde!
Yup, that's exactly why kids are doing it. The only person I knew in college with one had it for that reason. We hated that stupid thing.
Whenever somebody on campus says "I wish I could have a pet" they're told " just get an emotional support animal." They're not bring used for the intended purpose, which is fine since that purpose is ridiculous.
students who claim to rely on "emotional support animals." There are now 14 such animals living on campus
It's not nice to call those students "animals". That's probably why they need emotional support.
My cats are fuzzy little sweeties, but between having to care for them and them waking me up at 4 a.m. every day, on balance they're more stress than comfort.
Like most people, I suspect you work to get away from your cats.
Huh. One of the perks after I started teleworking half my days was that me cat keeps me company for part of the day. I call her "daddy's little blood pressure lowerer".
Note: I can distinguish between a pet and a child. It's just a (ahem) pet name. Much like I sometimes call my husband "sweet Apple pie" and other such nonsense. I do not think my husband is a sweet and sticky dessert. Just sweet and sticky.
Might want to check his glucose levels.
Huh. One of the perks after I started teleworking half my days was that me cat keeps me company for part of the day. I call her "daddy's little blood pressure lowerer".
Note: I can distinguish between a pet and a child. It's just a (ahem) pet name. Much like I sometimes call my husband "sweet Apple pie" and other such nonsense. I do not think my husband is a sweet and sticky dessert. Just sweet and sticky.
Big difference. Kids don't lower your blood pressure. They might even raise it.
Cats suck.
I've already told my wife we're not getting new pets when our two cats finally cross the Rainbow Bridge. They're very sociable and thankfully quite tolerant of the overly affectionate attention our kids give them, but I'm sick of cleaning out litter boxes and spending money on them when our own kids are already expensive enough. One of them is fatter than Garfield and will probably die of a heart attack in a couple years, but I'm sure the other is going to live to be 20 years old out of spite.
Heh. As I guessed in advance, contempt for snowflake college students trumps (there's that word!) any fragment of libertarian principle here: why should anyone give a shit if students have pets in the dorms? The thing to do is regulate it thru the market, right? Have students put up a deposit to pay for any damage, right? But Noooooooooooo. Let the cheap shots against coddled elite students fly!
I'd only give a shit if I were a student living in a dorm and someone's miniature horse was stinking up the place.
What students or anyone else does in their own home I really don't care. I just don't want to hear any barking or step in any dog shit.
Shhh, shhh, it's OK. Just pet your emotional support cockatoo and forget about those meanies anonymously making of fun of other people on the internet.
The federal government prohibits the school from keeping the pets out. That's the concern here.
Say, does disability cover the cost of these emotional support dogs?
After a couple of congressional hearings, probably.
Huh. That won't happen until they want to allow emotional support prostitutes. About par for the course up there.
THAT DOG IN THE PICTURE IS SMARTER THAN THE SNOWFLAKES THAT GO TO COLLEGE LOL
Couldn't Yale just, you know, not require the students to jump through the hoop and have animals?
Or would that be too honest?
You're doing this wrong.
But your way, how would they get to lord over the honest people who would just meekly surrender to the rules instead of using the "emotional support animals loophole to get their pets on campus? How would the university resident administrators get their authority boners in your system?
They're not really getting their authority boners in anything when you can just pay a very modest sum of money to override them with the force of Federal law (and this is Yale, so the overwhelming majority of them can afford it), but it's a ludicrous thing for the Federal Leviathan to be involved with and a stupid thing to arrest someone over.
Also, you can bet this will explode into a larger number of students going this route once it circulates among the people living in the dorms that you can do this. Although, really, I doubt it will grow too much since college students aren't a group I associate with being able to keep a separate entity alive for any period of time. They're way too self-centered, or at least I know I was at that age as was everyone I knew.
Pet's can't be emotionally supportive. They may sooth and brighten our day but, no, they don't support us at all emotionally. It would be more effective from an emotional support view point to let BFF's live for free in the dorms.
My comfort animal is an Asian escort.
My comfort animal is an Asian escort.
His main example was "shell shock," the term for soldiers who were mentally scarred by the horrors of war, which became "battle fatigue," then "operational exhaustion," and finally "post-traumatic stress disorder." "The humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now," he observed.
...
But let's not use junk mental health science to create a new category of emotional entitlement that university officials are legally obliged to satisfy.
How far back to we jog the 'junk mental health science' dial? Homophobia and transphobia are complete psycho-pseudo-analytical B.S. too, right?
If you want to get into it, mental health in general is a field ridden with politics, and strong arming people into certain view points.
My dad is old enough, but not that old, that he was taught openly in school that homosexuality was a mental illness. It's very frequently just a stigma against certain behavior deemed inappropriate by society. Given a stamp of medicine to give it more authority when they take someone and imprison them in a mental hospital.
That being said, I don't believe homophobia or transphobia are actual DSM diagnoses.
That being said, I don't believe homophobia or transphobia are actual DSM diagnoses.
And yet, psychological and epidemiology studies showing that homosexuals and transgendered individuals fair better in less homophobic and transphobic environments exist and are used to justify more equaler treatment for 'oppressed' groups.
A pet is a creature that depends on you for basics, like food and shelter, and can be euthanized when you get bored of it. Yeah, I can see why they are becoming more popular among college students at progressive universities.
A pet is a creature that depends on you for basics, like food and shelter, and can be euthanized when you get bored of it.
Jesus, why don't they just have a baby then?
Doesn't take as long to house-train 'em.
Do you suffer from anxiety attacks?
Are they often caused by stupid people?
Get an Emotional Support Honey Badger.
Unlike other companion animals that snuggle up to provide physical comfort and a safe space during anxiety attacks, the Emotional Support Honey Badger instead physically attacks and savages the absolute living hell out of the stupid idiot bothering you, thus removing the source of the anxiety.
Much more efficient!
Ask your doctor if Honey Badger is right for you.
^Thread winner^
I want an emotional support spitting cobra.
Because honey, badger don't give a damn.
Oo-er! I wish those things could be trained. When someone having a stupidity attack (1) thinks it's necessary to "call" me when I'm standing right there, and (2) calls me "honey" instead of "Ma'am" (which I grudgingly tolerate, although people I like don't do that idiot "calling" thing at all), badger could jump up and start eating its face. "But, Your Honor, what could I do? Badger was responding to its NAME...and I NEED my Emotional Support Honey Badger."
Lovely fantasy, thank you.
I have a friend are angrily argues that needing emotional support animals is a real thing, a real disability, and people who laugh at it are evil neanderthals. Remember the emotional support ostrich on the plane (or whatever the fuck it was)? He didn't see anything wrong with it, and wanted the airline execs to go to jail over tossing the passenger off the plane. He was serious.
Eh, like many fashionable diseases, I think they *can* be a real thing, but like those others, it can easily be misused, both through well-intentions and maliciousness.
Or to put it another way... Ostrich lady ruins it for the Carrie Fishers of the world.
Why can't they just use emotional support xanex?
If I cared to invade folk's privacy, I'd ask that of their doctors.
As is, I'll have to be content with generally thinking it's a silly thing while acknowledging that it may honestly help some people.
Tell your friend to harden the fuck up.
I have an emotional support lobster and I'm about to give it a nice warm bath.
/ripped off from the Simpson's
fucking weak ass hats get a gripe.
go out in the world, leave your ivy fucking tower and experience life you mommy boys.
These students should just learn to be more creative.
Back in the Dark Ages, when I lived in a dorm for one year, the only pets allowed were fish. A guy down the hall had a couple of hamsters in a (dry) aquarium, with a sign that said 'Please don't handle these fish'.
Good story.
My daughter had an illicit Ball Python the year she lived in the dorm.
Good thing for the hamster owner that they were not room mates.
The tags Robby has for this article are "College, Disabilities"
I guess that kind of says it all
I think it's stupid for colleges to forbid dogs or cats in dorms to begin with.
Taking a dog on an airplane is fraught with difficulty. It is stowed away somewhere in the belly of the aircraft. Word to the wise: a doctor's note claiming you suffer from anxiety without your pet is all you need to have the pet ride in the cabin with you.
Again, this is something that wouldn't be an issue if government had not gotten involved.
First, government said you couldn't allow animals into places of business and suchlike. Then they said that you *had* to allow certain classes of animals everywhere.
If they had just left it alone to start with, then the damned country could have figured out what to do.
After all, why would it be inappropriate for a college student to keep a pet at a dorm? Its a non-question that has national significance only because the fucking Federal government couldn't keep its yap shut.
There's a short passage in 'Dune' where Paul is talking about his father's approach to governing - 'when you give a command on something, then you will always have to give commands on that thing.' He saw it as an inefficiency, a waste of his time to order people around for things they can organize perfectly well themselves. These assholes see it as a feature as the exercise of power over others is the only thing that gives them purpose and meaning.
The federal government has some kind of prohibition on animals in dorms ? I don't see that in the article...is that true ?
In any case, I don't think its unreasonable to ban animals from dorms. Its an extra bit of care/maintenance/hassle not to mention many people have allergies, creating a whole other set of issues. Its a certainty that if they allowed pets as long as the student paid an additional fee (like many apartments do) the students would think the fee is patriarchal cisnormal oppressive racism. Or something.
I had to chuckle at the student's admission that the science isn't strong. Who wants to bet that the kid's use of #science is highly situational, depending on his personal preferences ?
The federal government has some kind of prohibition on animals in dorms ? I don't see that in the article...is that true ?
In any case, I don't think its unreasonable to ban animals from dorms. Its an extra bit of care/maintenance/hassle not to mention many people have allergies, creating a whole other set of issues. Its a certainty that if they allowed pets as long as the student paid an additional fee (like many apartments do) the students would think the fee is patriarchal cisnormal oppressive racism. Or something.
I had to chuckle at the student's admission that the science isn't strong. Who wants to bet that the kid's use of #science is highly situational, depending on his personal preferences ?
goddamnit double posting is so easy to do by accident
Kind of. The federal government declared dogs a health risk in the 1960's and states banned them from restaurants as a result. Dogs may be banned from dorms because they usually have dining facilities, or because the bad recommendations and irrational fears spilled over (fewer people are killed by dogs than by lightning each year).
It is true that many dorms would likely choose to ban dogs anyway because of logistics and individual discomfort; but the federal government in part contributed to a general hostility of many Americans to dogs.
I'm stuck at Nashville Airport for a delayed connection. A woman walked by with an ill-behaved cur that was obviously taking advantage of the "emotional support animal" hogwash. It squats down right in the middle of the concourse and shits on the carpet.
what happens when a trans-female-Islamic-Cherokee has a severe pet allergy? Who wins between them and the student "needing" the support animal?
An actual sign at my doctor's office today: they do not allow emotional support amphibians in the office.
Nothing says
WARNING, EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE
More than a Emo pet.
Well...once long ago, when dorms banned pets AND gay people AND blind people (Yes! Blind people!), I said goodbye to my pet (hen) and lived in a dorm where someone tried to stop me petting a visiting cat. I lived with it until able to find a room in town, which was cheaper, in a boardinghouse that had two dogs, two cats, and at times kittens. I was much happier with those emotional support animals. I was also happier with not hearing everyone else's radios and/or conversations and/or coughing and/or snoring, with nobody else complaining about hearing my typewriter, with not having a roommate, with not having to take out a loan to pay the dorm fees...
So was a classmate who usually ate on campus but lived off campus. Funnily enough, when I signed up for a certain class in order to sit next to a "legally blind" (very nearsighted) friend, he signed up for that class too and wanted to sit on the other side of me every day. Funnier still, he never asked for a date.
No points for guessing: after graduation, he admitted he was gay AND blind. And he not only survived four years at that school, but earned good grades and was popular...do some people really have all *that* much more fortitude than others?
Is the option of just not living in the dorm available to the kids who need emotional support pets? If not, why not? Isn't that the question they should be asking?
(But I'm still glad colleges are now required to accept blind people, even in the dorms.)
"Legally blind" dorm mates, like both of those school friends, aren't a real problem in dorms. Totally blind people can be a problem; they spill things, they trip over things. I'd say that learning to live with that problem is part of education.
So, is learning to live with other people's pets part of education? Learning to train your own pet to live with other people's pets?
I'm told that some good schools, e.g. McGill, allow people to live on campus only during the first year. Finding a room of one's own, with housemates who share and/or are willing to live with one's quirks, is part of education too. I'd say that that's a very valuable part of education.