State of the Union Wrap Up Video: Ask Us Anything

Katherine Mangu-Ward, Matt Welch, and Peter Suderman take your questions.

Join Katherine Mangu-Ward, Peter Suderman, and Matt Welch for a live chat from Reason's Washington, D.C. headquarters immediately following the State of the Union. We are taking your questions at Reason's Facebook page or in the comment section of this post.

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[AlmightyJB]

Is Ivanka there? I hope she wears white. It’s a good color for her.

[Palin's Buttplug]

The number of lies that Trump tells? I am putting the over/under at 18.

Over or under?

[Lachowsky]

I’m on my 30th consecutive year of not watching a SOTU address. As far as i can tell, I haven’t missed anything yet. Will you guys, and gal, let me know if anything happens that is more substantial than presidential dick waving. Thanks.

[Lachowsky]

I’m assuming the speech is over at this point. Based on the no response I’m just gonna assume there was nothing worth listening to. Well done Mr. Trump. You are just as motivating as your predecessors. Hoorah. America!

[newlife3.0]

It’s kinda more because, sadly, Reason’s become more boring. Where’s the drink party? Additionally, many are lost to the Glibs. I just find their site hard to follow.

[Lachowsky]

Come see the glibs. It makes more sense the longer you are there. Great people, good opinions, we’re just a bit disjointed.

[newlife3.0]

No doubt I miss ’em. Helluva lot more entertaining bunch. (Although some of the older timers here are still good!).
Just…the site is so hard to follow… Even if OMWC’s wife or whoever it is is a site making genius as is claimed… Maybe more slightly specific headlines–however lame that may sound, but Hey!, we don’t have all day to read everything), would help, idk.

[newlife3.0]

Gave it another go. Thanks for the bump. Don’t know if it’s the bourbon or hot spicy cocoa, (separate, of course. I likes my bourbon neat!), but at least the SOTU thread is there, and easy tonight. Appreciate the off topics too.

[Crusty Juggler]

What’s it like being a part of the deep state, or are you so deep in the deep state that you don’t know you’re part of the deep state?

[Crusty Juggler]

I double-dog dare you to say something nice about Trump.

[Rebel Scum]

Ooo, I’m sorry. That’s not in the form of a question.

[Crusty Juggler]

On a scale of Anthony Hopkins – Peter O’Toole, how intoxicated do you have to be to actually pay attention to this drivel?

If anyone of one you answers lower than Jackie Gleason I will be sorely disappointed, and the disappointment will be reflected in the next donation I pretend to make.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Can I put Mel Gibson on that drunk scale?

[Crusty Juggler]

No.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

I am at about an Ernest Hemingway.

[Crusty Juggler]

Who’s more right: the Palestinians or the Jews?

[AlmightyJB]

They’re both Nazis

[Res ipsa loquitur]

Technically, on the progressive human meter scale, everyone is a nazi today.

[Don't look at me.]

They are both wrong.

[Stormy Dragon]

Apparently Melania and Donald took separate limos from the WH to the Capitol.

Looks like someone is still in the dog house for screwing porn stars.

[Ecoli]

Stomry said it was a classic case of micro-cheating, if you get my drift.

[Res ipsa loquitur]

Melania is hotter, no way he cheated on her with that porn chick…..Donald is no Bill Clinton !!!111!~

[Palin's Buttplug]

Melania is a buttaface.

[Rebel Scum]

You have no taste. Then again, you’re used to seeing only ass. Perhaps you just have skewed taste.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

How many times do you think Trump and Melania have had sex since he became President?

[Don't look at me.]

It was the best!

[Rebel Scum]

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

[Rat on a train]

42

[Rebel Scum]

Have you made any rules for a 2018 SOTU drinking game? If not, I’ll just play a game called ‘Drink-the-beer’.

[Crusty Juggler]

What is the best way to deal with a micromanaging CEO? Is it to loudly tell them that they have no idea what they talking about, and that they are burden on your already burdensome life, and that they hired you to fix their problems so just let you fix their problems, and their recent hires (other than you) suck and make your life more difficult, and that a gay man who dresses that poorly and wears that much cologne is confusing?

Also, are you hiring?

[Don't look at me.]

Yes, but not you.

[Crusty Juggler]

DISCRIMINATION!!!!

[Res ipsa loquitur]

Clowns are not a protected class……yet

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Dammit, how many times have we been over this. Crusty is not a clown.

[Paloma]

You slip them a mickey

[Rat on a train]

Vi or Emacs?

[chemjeff]

Ooo trick question. But the correct answer is of course Emacs.

[The ghOst of mcgOo]

Join the new millennium and use nano

[Rat on a train]

I don’t want to throw my vote away.

[Rebel Scum]

Blondes, brunettes, or redheads?

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

Oars are what you paddle a boat with, son.

[Vernon Depner]

No, oars are what you ROW a boat with.

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

Jawohl, mein Grammarkapitan!

[Crusty Juggler]

Any thoughts on the Dems going goth?

[Ecoli]

Undertakers. They are in the process of burying America, so they are dressed appropriately.

[Azathoth!!]

Were they issuing a warning to black voters? That if they didn’t shape up more Democrats would be coming around to rape and beat them the way Democrats raped and beat Recy?

[Crusty Juggler]

Are we currently residing in The Upside Down?

[loveconstitution1789]

Does the carpet match the drapes, Matt?

[Crusty Juggler]

He was…blown away…by her allure.

[Ecoli]

She was a cutie. Not so much, now days.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Why is he being attacked for a crime someone else noticed?

[Ecoli]

Mr. President, do you object to being called “Drumpf”? If so, would you prefer to be called “the Bull” with a bunch of cucks dangling from your balls?

Keepin’ it real, yo!

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

How many times did you vote for Clinton?

[Rebel Scum]

It is known that many Reason staff voted for Barry…twice…

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

Seems reasonable. As libertarians, they should be disgusted by authoritarian, bigoted, backward Republicans.

[Rebel Scum]

And what of authoritarian, bigoted, backwards, incompetent Democrats?

[Crusty Juggler]

How come no one wants to be Winston?

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

The troll or the genetically engineered gorilla?

[Res ipsa loquitur]

Is this thing even on ?!?!?!

[Crusty Juggler]

Libs literally want predatory animals to roam free through the continental United States, and Donald Trump is the only man to stop them. Do you still oppose a wall, TreasonNN?

[Paloma]

Next they’ll be taking them on planes as emotional support animals.

[Stormy Dragon]

Wow, Trump is actually applauding himself.

[Res ipsa loquitur]

That’s what winners do….something you will never understand

[chemjeff]

Yeah I noticed that too. What a doofus.

[Bender B. Rodriguez]

Dammit, did I miss the SOTU again? That makes 23 in a row.

[Palin's Buttplug]

How can you make fun of it if you don’t watch it?

[Oscarson44.]

Apparently that is not so important anymore:
https://lidblog.com/students-say-they-hated-sotu/

[Bender B. Rodriguez]

I was required to watch for a college course as Clinton unveiled the healthcare cards. That was the first and last SOTU I’ve viewed. They’ve never had any relevance to actual policy or reality, so I’ll continue to blissfully avoid it.

[Stormy Dragon]

Trump’s got cocaine nose again.

[Rebel Scum]

Winners never sleep.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Donny TelePrompter.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Remember how the wingnuts always pointed out Obama using a teleprompter?

[Res ipsa loquitur]

The difference is the teleprompter actually made policy for Obama. Twitter makes policy for Trump.

[Rebel Scum]

All politicians use teleprompters. The context of the criticism of Barry was how horrible he was when he was not using one.

[Palin's Buttplug]

You never heard Dumbya butcher a simple sentence then.

[Rebel Scum]

Indeed I have, but Dubya is low-hanging fruit.

[Res ipsa loquitur]

Sadly, Bush is about the only president who might, just might lose an IQ test to Obama.

[Rebel Scum]

Or his dad. Or Jimmy Carter.

[Mickey Rat]

Nobody claimed Bush was a mind blowingly eloquent public speaker, unlike Obama.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Actually I have heard a lot of other rednecks say the same. They are jealous of Obama’s Harvard Law education no doubt.

[Rebel Scum]

Unfortunately being “college-educated” does not necessarily make one intelligent. Harvard or not. And speaking of, we have no data on Barry’s performance at Harvard. Curious…

[Res ipsa loquitur]

His grades were so amazing, they are like some amazing religious artifacts, such as the “Lost Ark” from Raiders of the Lost Ark, which must be secured in the deep basement of Harvard under guard else they may bring light to all the world and crush the oil / natural gas industry.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Bullshit.

Harvard’s graduating printed program had Obama listed a “Magna cum laude” back on that day.

[Rebel Scum]

A position or a transcript?

[Palin's Buttplug]

I don’t know what your question means.

But he was also President of the Harvard Law Review.

“Feb 6, 1990 – 5? The Harvard Law Review, generally considered the most prestigious in the country, elected the first black president in its 104-year history today. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School. The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate ”

By any measure he was a hell of a student.

I know the wingnuttery can’t stand it though.

[Rebel Scum]

I’ll rephrase. Where is his transcript?

Additionally, can you point me to an example of one of his law-reviews, seeing how he was the president of the Harvard Law Review?

[Palin's Buttplug]

Why do you care?

You can’t possibly belittle his Harvard record. As a Magna he got excellent grades and as President of the HLR he excelled otherwise,

[Rebel Scum]

Harvard record

I’m waiting for you to present it.

[Palin's Buttplug]

He graduated Magna.

Look, I know conservatives are fucking dumbasses. Your great hero Fat Rush couldn’t finish a semester in junior college.

Definition of magna cum laude
: with great distinction (see distinction 5b) graduated magna cum laude

[Rebel Scum]

Then I’m sure his transcript is stellar. Present it.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Do you want Tom Brady’s high school football records too?

Look, both of them have first rate credentials.

Brady has a Magna is Super Bowl wins.

[Rebel Scum]

Brady had a tryout and a record known to the people that signed him in the NFL. Barry is magna by word of mouth with no supporting evidence of achievement or competence. I’m waiting for you to present it.

Also, credentials are not evidence of competence. Try again.

[Palin's Buttplug]

You are not capable of understanding his transcript.

All you need to know is that he graduated Magna from Harvard Law. You cannot belittle that achievement.

[Rebel Scum]

I can understand my own transcript just fine. It has all my classes and grades and such. I’m sure I could understand The Lightbringers. Present it.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

These goobers believe fairy tales are true and pine for good old days that never existed. They are waiting for a Rapture. You figure they can’t belittle genuine achievement in the reality-based world?

[loveconstitution1789]

Palin’s Buttplug|1.30.18 @ 10:29PM|#
You are not capable of understanding his transcript.
All you need to know is that he graduated Magna from Harvard Law. You cannot belittle that achievement.

The Obama lovers don’t care what the transcript says. Obama is the best no matter what reality tells us.

See, Obama being president frees the lefty racists from centuries of white guilt. They love a black man and his wife, so they are cool now.

[Sevo]

Palin’s Buttplug|1.30.18 @ 9:51PM|#
“Why do you care?”

MOVE that goalpost, turd!

[Sevo]

Palin’s Buttplug|1.30.18 @ 9:27PM|#
“Actually I have heard a lot of other rednecks say the same.”

I’ve heard a lot of fucking assholes say what you just did. And just heard it again.

[Rebel Scum]

Only Team Blue could scowl at a tax cut that doubles as a reduction in cost to consumer and bonuses and wage increases to employees (pro tip: corporations don’t pay taxes, they transfer the cost to you.)

[Stormy Dragon]

Atheists: not americans

[Stormy Dragon]

Trump literally promises more tiny American flags.

[Crusty Juggler]

Did Soave have a heart attack after seeing Rand Paul’s hair?

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Soave’s hair is like a Yorkie, and Rand’s is like a poodle. What I am saying is that Rand should get a poodle..

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

10:30PM? That’s how long this fucking thing is supposed to be?

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

And yes, this is a question for the panel.

[Rebel Scum]

Only 930 in the timezone that matters…

[Palin's Buttplug]

He’s lying. I live in the South where dozens of auto/auto parts plants opened since the 2008 crash.

[bill413]

Yes BMW is right up the rd from me and Volvo is opening up soon in the low country of S.C.

[loveconstitution1789]

Butt, quite a few of those before Obama was president.

[Rebel Scum]

Donald supports Right-to-Try. Sounds good.

[Vernon Depner]

Where’s Barron?

[Palin's Buttplug]

Where’s Stormy?

[Rebel Scum]

“Where’s Barron?”

Hiding from Cathy Griffith.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Lol. And where’s Cathy?

[Rebel Scum]

Trying to learn what comedy is.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

So we’ll never see her again?

[Rebel Scum]

I never saw her in the first place.

[Don't look at me.]

Let’s hope not.

[Rebel Scum]

A Team Blue Congresscritter walks into a bar. The bartender asks, “why the long face?”

[bill413]

Does the Don sound like Donocrat tonight? Will you folks please interview Libertarian Christians for once @wethefifth @reasonpodcast…end of rant

[Stormy Dragon]

Legal immigration apparently constitutes a “loophole” now.

[Palin's Buttplug]

BTW, this speech has not been a clusterfuck like his others were.

So Far.

[Rebel Scum]

Still a nicer system than Canada. Go figure…

[Stormy Dragon]

Legal immigration is an unlawful system? So is the new Republican talking point that they’re in favor of legal immigration, as long as it’s LEGAL legal immigration?

[Palin's Buttplug]

They have been saying that for months.

[Palin's Buttplug]

I can’t believe I am saying this but this speech is more presidential than his usual divisive ones.

[chemjeff]

Well there it is, the immigration part of the speech.

Whenever Trump mentions Americans, they are good hard-working decent folks. “Americans are dreamers too.” Good line, I admit.

Whenever Trump mentions immigrants, they are terrorists, criminals and gangbangers.

Just once I’d like to see Trump refer to immigrants and immigration as anything other than problems and headaches that America has to grudgingly deal with.

[Palin's Buttplug]

True, but for once he has offered a reasonable compromise on DACA.

[chemjeff]

It’s not terrible. DACA amnesty in exchange for a useless wall and ending the diversity lottery which was stupid from the beginning even from an open borders perspective

[Palin's Buttplug]

Yes.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

The wall is dumb and pointless.

[chemjeff]

It is dumb and pointless. But it is probably the least offensive item on Trump’s list.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

Not to gullible, downscale, bigoted yahoos, it isn’t.

[chemjeff]

Okay that is not helpful.

IMO we should have compassion for all people, immigrants and Americans alike.

We don’t like it when righties scapegoat immigrants as the source of all our problems, and we shouldn’t scapegoat Americans as being the source of our problems either.

[Don't look at me.]

I don’t have any problems. And if you think about it, you probably don’t have any problems either.

[loveconstitution1789]

Funny. About this point is where you can tell all the lefties are the only people watching the SOTU and commenting.

That groupthink is amazingly successful for lefties.

[Rebel Scum]

“Speak confidently and carry a nuclear stick.” – DT

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

@Reason

What are we, as individuals who think for ourselves, supposed to think about this?

[chemjeff]

Obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QereR0CViMY

[Palin's Buttplug]

God, what a liar.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was never captured and released.

[Palin's Buttplug]

God, what a liar.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was never captured and released.

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

@Reason

When did you start hating America?

[Stormy Dragon]

He was, but he wasn’t in ISIS yet:

For some reason being tortured in a US covert prison for 10 months for no reason ended up radicalizing him.

[Palin's Buttplug]

On 8 December 2004,[5] he was released as a “low level prisoner

Still a lie since he intended a listener to assume we released the ISIS leader.

[Don't look at me.]

Ok, so that’s one, not 18.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Only got 6-7.

the under won.

[Stormy Dragon]

I wonder how Trump would respond to an illegal immigrant stealing coal from a railroad car to buy food.

[Don't look at me.]

You can buy food with coal?

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

@Reason

What color are Mike Pence’s underwear after being run through the washing machine with an American flag (as he requires)?

[Rebel Scum]

Purple?

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

^literally Benedict Arnold

[chemjeff]

Sung Ho. Wow what a brave man.

[Rebel Scum]

I was stunned when Been Shapiro got Cenk Ugyr to chant “USA”. I’m more stunned that Donald got Congress to do the same.

[DiegoF]

“Been Shapiro”…is that a racist crack at the beanie he wears, or a racist suggestion that, because he is from Los Angeles, he must be a Mexican?

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

@Reason

If Jurassic Park/World existed, would it be a violation of the NAP to legally prohibit the park owners from prostituting the dinosaurs to paying johns?

[chemjeff]

Well he didn’t personally insult anyone and his orange toupee didn’t fall off. That counts as a win!

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Dear Reason: what you sippin’ on?

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

On that note, Jesus, Suderman, hope KMW’s cuttin’ you off.

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

@Reason

As a red-suited Marx cosplayer who disperses commodities to children without demanding labor at market value in return, is or is not Santa Claus the Satan of libertarian catechism?

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Trump’s wearing a blue tie, Katherine is blonde now… is Rand Paul the only aesthetically reliable person left??

[Katherine Mangu-Ward]

Back to purple tomorrow! The hair has a lifecycle, man.

[Rockabilly]

I voted for Gary J, he didn’t win.

I went to bed before the election results were in, thinking, damn Hillary Clinton is probably going to be president.

Next day I went on the internets and could not believe it.

Trump is president, not Hillary Clinton

I got to say, a smile spread through my disbelieving face.

Trump is president – NOT Hillary fucking Clinton – the gun grabber. Fuckin A!

Now here is my question.

It you had to choose, would you rather have Trump, who said fuck you to the Paris Accords, who lowered taxes, is taking the wheels off of Obozocare, and believes in the right to keep and bear arms, or would you choose Hillary fucking Clinton, the gun grabber and all around control freak?

[Palin's Buttplug]

THEY IS COMIN TO GET YER GUNS!

[Sevo]

“THEY IS COMIN TO GET YER GUNS!”
Answer the question, turd.

[loveconstitution1789]

They have been trying for years.

[Rebel Scum]

**Puts ‘Rockabilly’ down for order of ‘MAGA’ hat.**

Jk. But yeah, with all his faults (drug war and continued overseas intervention and such…), Still easily the best prez of my lifetime so far. I keep trying to convince my lefty gf that he is basically a Business Democrat in the vein of JFK, but she’ll have none of it. Partisan blinders are on too tight.

[chemjeff]

“all around control freak”

They’re all control freaks. That is what it means to have a position of power and authority over others.

Trump said “fuck you” to the Paris agreement, yes. However, Trump said “fuck yeah!” to protectionism and immigration wall nonsense.

[Don't look at me.]

They’re all control freaks.
This guy gets it.

[Inigo Montoya]

Well, I too voted for Gary J, and I really don’t care about “if I had to choose.” Homey don’t play that, to quote an old variety show.

I will never, ever again vote for someone with a D or an R after their names. I would seriously consider an “L,” but would make it point to NOT vote at all if the choice is R or D. Sorry to Rand Paul and Justin Amash. Their hearts may be in the right place, but they need to cut ties with the dirty major parties before I could ever take either of them seriously.

[Tony]

The soft bigotry of low expectations. And perpetrated on an orange man.

[Mickey Rat]

True, being better than a Clinton is a low bar to hurdle, still..

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Dear Reason, now that we have finally found out that Soave owns two Yorkies, which explains everything, does anyone want to share their choice of pet and what it reveals about them?

[Don't look at me.]

And reveal my secret identity? No!

[Gene]

Black metal barn cats!

[Stormy Dragon]

Joe Kennedy III: actual politician or Conan O’Brien character?

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Freddie Quimby about hits the mark.

It’s chowdah!

[Don't look at me.]

If he was an actual Kennedy politician, some dead women would be found by now.

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

@Reason

If a syringe of fentanyl-laced heroin is thrown at a burglar in self-defense or kept in readiness for such, does it gain Second Amendment protection?

[Stormy Dragon]

You’re supposed to defend your home with beautiful clean coal, like the North Korean regime defended itself from Sung Ho with that coal train.

[Stormy Dragon]

“A healthcare system that offers you mercy” So the Democrat solution to healthcare is the Faceless Men?

[SIV]

Joe Kennedy III doesn’t seem to be the Jackalope you’re looking for.

[Stormy Dragon]

Okay, I like that “Build a wall and my generation will tear it down” line.

[chemjeff]

Okay there is Joe, talking about Russia Russia Russia again.

I have to wonder if Democrats think talking about Russia polls well or something. Because the evidence of “collusion” is thin at best.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Because “collusion” is not the end game. It is too vague.

What probably did happen is that Trump (who has laundered money for Russian mobsters) engaged in a quid pro quo with Russians to further their alliance.

Remember, to NY banks Trump is a deadbeat. A serial bankrupt scofflaw deadbeat. He needs the Russians. Money laundering will be his downfall.

[Sevo]

“What probably did happen is that Trump (who has laundered money for Russian mobsters) engaged in a quid pro quo with Russians to further their alliance.”

Tin foil hats on aisle 6, turd.

[chemjeff]

Well I don’t know about the Russian mobsters bit. But this article I just discovered is indeed rather disturbing.

http://www.newyorker.com/magaz…..worst-deal

[Sevo]

You mean he invested in some efforts that went nowhere in some cities he hoped would go somewhere?!
The SHAME of it!
Hint: one of the commie assholes who post here gives the Koch brothers (and they are NOT all alike) grief because Dad did business in Russia when Stalin was in power!
And never did again after he left.
You think a government agency would learn to cut costs as quickly?
Make sure you get to aisle 6 before turd buys them all up.

[chemjeff]

Well, you should read the whole article.

It isn’t just that Trump made a bad investment in a foreign country.

Briefly, Trump licensed his name for a hotel, which was going to be run by a horribly corrupt Azeri political family, who were also in bed with Iranian terrorists. It’s pretty awful.

[Stormy Dragon]

I just figured out how Joe Kennedy III speaking style reminds me of. He sounds like the Jesse Eisenberg version of Lex Luthor.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

You admit to watching both Joe Kennedy respond to Trump’s SOTU, and Batman v Superman.

How embarrassing.

[Stormy Dragon]

I read the H&R comments too. Maybe I’m a masochist?

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

This comment literally just single-handedly changed my stance on censoring hate speech.

[chemjeff]

Suderman and KMW are right – Republicans have now completely ceded away the issue of debt and deficit spending.

[SIV]

Ceded to who?

[chemjeff]

To Libertarians, of course!

[Palin's Buttplug]

I have been saying that since the Bushpigs went on their spending spree in 2003-07 with a GOP Senate and House.

Obama cut the deficit from $1.2 trillion to about $450B. Now its headed back to a trillion.

[Don't look at me.]

Why do you keep blowing the guy who isn’t on the job anymore? You aren’t going to get promoted that way.

[Sevo]

Palin’s Buttplug|1.30.18 @ 11:20PM|#
“Obama cut the deficit from $1.2 trillion to about $450B….”

turd, you are one slimy piece of shit.
You’ve been busted on that lie more times than you can count (fingers and toes, turd, that’s the limit of your math).
So you keep repeating it in the hopes someone might be as dumb as you and believe it.
Fuck off, asshole.

[chemjeff]

Oh come on. It’s incredibly stupid to assign credit or blame for spending decisions solely to the executive branch.

When Obama and the Democrats were in charge, they spent like drunken sailors. When Republicans took over Congress, the government basically ran on autopilot and CR’s.

[chemjeff]

“free and fair and reciprocal trade”

I’m old enough to remember the debate over NAFTA. Republicans and Bill Clinton said “free trade”. The rest of the Democrats said “no, we want *fair* trade!”

Looks like the Democrats won the debate in the end.

[chemjeff]

And congrats to Telecontar and Crusty for getting mentioned on the streaming presentation!

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

Seriously?

Which one? When, by who? I didn’t watch it…

[chemjeff]

The “If we are all individuals” question.

[Telcontar the Wanderer]

watches video

Ugh, 30 minutes in. But I can now say I made Matt Welch and Lady K laugh!

Not bad for a {redacted}-year-old {redacted} in {redacted}.

Also, additional hat tip to Rebel Scum for actually getting his in before everyone stopped listening.

[Warren]

Never put Peter Suderman on camera again.