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To Thwart Fascism, Leftist Students Start Self-Defense 'Fight Club,' Which Actually Sounds Awesome

Republican students: stop whining.

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Did conservative students accidentally convince their liberal counterparts to take the right to self-defense seriously? To guard against Trump-inspired hate crimes, a socialist student club at the University of Central Florida has started a "Leftist Fight Club"—an ode to the well-known Chuck Palahniuk book and fim—to practice hand-to-hand combat and self-defense.

This ought to be applauded.

"In response to the record number of hate crimes against Latinxs, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, the LGBTQIA+ community, Jews, African Americans and other minorities since the rise of Donald Trump and other Alt-Right Neo-Nazis, Knights for Socialism has decided to host a series of self-defense clinics for anyone that wants to learn how to BASH THE FASH," the event's Facebook page reads. "For our first seminar, a local amateur boxer will teach us the basics of hand to hand combat. Following his instruction, we will all have the opportunity to face off against one another and practice what we've learned."

Organizers stress that women are especially welcome to attend, which is open to everyone except Republicans. "Don't wait until it's too late to learn how to defend yourself!"

In response, some students—possibly Republicans—notified the administration that the existence of the club was making them feeling unsafe. UCF is looking into the matter, which is completely unnecessary. Campus Reform reports:

Scott Benton, a UCF College Republican, told Campus Reform that he considers the impulse toward violence to be a natural consequence of the intellectual indefensibility of leftists beliefs, saying, "If you can't hang with someone on a debate stage, then you resort to other means to try and justify your cause."

Leftist groups that practice violence—like the ones that shut down Milo Yiannopoulos at UC-Berkeley and attacked Gavin McInnes at New York University—deserve criticism. But Leftist Flight Club doesn't purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it's teaching people self-defense.

Conservatives ought to be happy that liberal students are taking self-defense seriously, since it's a practical justification for campus concealed-carry—a cause celebre of Republican student groups.

Indeed, it's blatantly hypocritical for right-leaning students to complain about needing a safe space when liberals suddenly show an interest in self-defense. Instead of whining about not being included in Leftist Fight Club, conservatives should challenge liberals to fully commit to the principle of self-defense and embrace the Second Amendment.

On a semi-related note, the use of "snowflake" as a term of derision synonymous with fragile and delicate actually originated with Fight Club. As the popular line from the book/film goes: "You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else."

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  1. How many people are going to join just to punch of a socialist?

    1. I went because I misread and thought we would be meeting up in a group to BASH THE GASH.

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  2. Actually anyone right of Joseph Stalin should take self defense classes to protect against an increasingly fascistic Left. No amount of virtue signaling is going to help you, Robby

    1. Robby (really? That’s his name? Is he 12?) has gone full retard. So, does “Bash the Fash” really sound DEFENSIVE “as far as [you] can tell?” Defense against who? The nonexistent violent rightists? It’s obvious that they want to train little black masked pussies how to exact OFFENSIVE attacks with a greater degree of efficiency. Robby is either dim or disingenuous.

    2. No no, you see the right SAYS stuff they don’t like, and that’s the same thing as physical violence — so they’re entire justified in fighting back physically.

      When you conflate language with actual violence then freedom as we have always understood it ceases to exist.

  3. If we’re going back to the twilight of the Weimar Republic, can we at least have cabaret culture back?

      1. So who gets you all hot and bothered? The M.C. of Cabaret or Ernst Roehm?

      2. Thanks, but let’s save Klaus Nomi for another time.

    1. You version is called “The Burlesque”.

      Whether it’s an improvement, everyone will have to decide in their heart.

      1. From my experience, I can only offer the Serbian version, which was ramshackle clubs floated out on river with no permission or licence (other than bribing or being owned by a correct mafioso), playing the turbo folk.

    2. Can we bring back Mensur scars too?

      1. Yes! Can you imagine two frat dude-bros fencing while completely smashed?

  4. “In response to the record number of hate crimes against Latinxs, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, the LGBTQIA+ community, Jews, African Americans and other minorities since the rise of Donald Trump and other Alt-Right Neo-Nazis, Knights for Socialism has decided to host a series of self-defense clinics for anyone that wants to learn how to BASH THE FASH,”

    WTF. These people scare me more than anything Trump does.

    1. I could well have missed something. But as far as I know, all political violence that has happened since the election has been done entirely by anti-Trump leftists.

      1. And they do it while claiming self-defense from opinions they disagree with. How Robby is not connecting the dots I don’t know. But I think he has connected the dots in all likelihood, he’s just smug leftist piece of shit by another name.

        1. Because apparently he turned his brain off. He wrote a couple of stories last week without equivocatiing to the lefties. But shit today he’s going all in on progtard signaling.

          Disappointed Robby, fucking disappointed.

        2. Words are now the same thing as punches. Language is violence.

          When you believe that, you can physically attack someone for saying something you don’t like and fully believe you’re acting in self-defense. That’s where we’re at right now, because the modern left has fully bought into the words=violence fantasy.

    2. Hmm why wasnt this called out as a bull shit statement?

  5. But Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense.

    This ought to be applauded.

    Sure, if you could believe them at their word that they would use their combat skills for self defense. Current events would suggest that they would most likely be used to initiate aggression. But don’t worry, Shikha told us that’s okay.

    1. Look, if you threaten them with your speech it’s absolutely self-defense when they attack you.

      1. It would not be shocking if something like that happened.

        1. Something like that has happened. Many times.

          Next step is for a lefty to say “I killed him because of his violent speech.”

      2. And if you take a self-defense class, pick a fight and get the crap beat out of yourself you get two holes punched on your victimhood card.

    2. Physically attacking someone for saying something they deem as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc (whether that is the case or not) is likely to be seen as justifies self defense. These leftist do not seem to know the difference.

      1. Oh it’s deeper than that. It’s not a matter of them simply not knowing the difference — one could almost forgive them for that.

        The fact is that the modern left has completely bought into the concept that words ARE violence. There is no distinction anymore between punching someone and saying something mean. So they feel entirely justified in ‘defending’ themselves physically when they hear things they don’t like.

    3. To elaborate, take this statement

      for anyone that wants to learn how to BASH THE FASH

      Either Robby is being deliberately obtuse or doesn’t understand the leftist delusion that the very existence of people disagreeing with them is an existential threat. These are the people who think Trump wants to put minorities in camps, so violence is justified. They invent an alternate reality where they are the defender, and wrong-opinion-havers are the aggressors. They’ve proved it, time and time again, as you know. But you continue to promote this false equivalence.

    4. I don’t really think it’s any more fair to equate the entire left with the violent assholes who have been making trouble lately than it is to equate all Trump supporters or conservatives with white supremacists.

      1. It’s not about equating the entire Left. It’s about pointing out the existence of a sizable group on the Left ? one seen at demonstrations and the like on the street, not merely imagined ? with a penchant for political violence against imagined enemies (those whom they claim to be “fascists” and the like). Hence, because the discourse that such “antifa” demonstrators and rioters have used is coached is preemptively defensive terms, it becomes curious to see the language used here among calls for self-defense training for the broader young Left (those among whom that small dangerous cabal recruit members).

        To point out where initial premises are flawed isn’t to attribute malice or blame to the entire Left, but rather to discourage more people from channel political disagreements into violence (regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum), especially given the actuality falsity of many of those premises (such as who is perpetuating said violence).

        1. So, just to be clear, the existence of a sizable group on the left with a penchant for violence goes without saying. But, the existence of a similar group on the right who demonstrate fascist or white supremacist attitudes is clearly a case of “imagined enemies”?

          I suppose it is too much to just acknowledge the existence of both groups and that both are extremely small in number but capture an oversized level of media interest due to their extremism?

          1. yeah the right-wingers have really been out cracking skulls at leftist events haven’t they? And yeah the right has totally failed to shun and condemn the violent thugs on their own side huh? What fucking planet do you live on?

            1. It’s all the same, FS…words, violence. There’s no difference. Same thing with aggression and self-defense.

              1. That’s exactly their view and Robby doesn’t think it’s a problem when antifa supporting leftists start a Fascist Bashing Club, and the college republicans are somehow hypocrites. I tell you, in the last several months libertarians have pissed me off more than I thought possible. It seems like about half of libertarians are just “free-market” leftists.

                1. There is a significant fraction of libertarians that reject leftism on intellectual grounds. but conservatism on visceral ones. Their heart draws them leftward, even though their minds hold them back.

                2. Progressitarians are pro corporate profit Leftists.

            2. Am I making that argument? No. Because I’m not stupid. The intent of your argument is what people like Episteme (I mention him because i responded to his comment) should be saying. But, he’s not. He’s denying the existence of alt-right douchebags. He’s calling them imagined enemies.

              Instead, he should concede their existence and then note that, while their ideas are ignorant, neo-nazi-inspired shit, they are just ideas and we are all free to have them. But that those ideas are not translating to literal violence. Meanwhile, for all of the lofty ideals claimed by the left, the actual reality is douchebags running around and causing literal violence.

              If you start off by denying the existence of groups that clearly exist (because you don’t want the right to be smeared as the same thing) and then proceed to lump all leftists in together with the violent rioters, your argument can never be taken seriously.

              1. Curt, at no point am I denying the alt-right. I am merely discussing that the Left should not descend into violence (the point in question here). The issue of false premises that I mention is whether their ideological opponents on the Right have been (at least en masse) engaging in the violence of which they accuse them (and in which the “antifa” demonstraters are engaging) ? they are not (regardless if there philosophy is dispicabable).

                1. I agree with you for the most part. You use the term “imagined enemies.” So, if you take “enemies” to mean people who are engaging in violence against them, that’s fair. If you consider it to mean ideological enemies it’s not. I would consider the alt-right to be firmly within the definition of enemy (regardless of actual violence). I don’t think actual hostilities are required for an “enemy” to be identified.

      2. The left feeds these people hypbolic talking points. The left has gone about educating these people with everything they know about reality. The left has been their morally relative compass. The left excuses and defends these people once they get their qualifiers out of the way, not unlike Robby here. The wider leftist community provides the crucial level of social support and acceptance for this behavior. To date, not Obama, not Sanders, not Clinton, not Pelosi have stood up and condemned these people or called for an end to violence. Hollywood leftists are actually applauding these antifa thugs. Make no fucking mistake here Zeb, the left most certainly condones this behavior in the strongest possible terms that our political culture will currently allow.

        1. And they will all be so shocked shocked when one of these violent lefties actually kills a Trump supporter.

        2. The left feeds these people hyperbolic talking points.

          See: “Record numbers of hate crimes since Trump was elected.”

      3. I don’t really think it’s any more fair to equate the entire left with the violent assholes who have been making trouble lately than it is to equate all Trump supporters or conservatives with white supremacists.

        You know, in normal times, I might agree with this pointless paean to avoiding overgeneralization.

        But they’re all over social media, facebook, twitter, tumblr, reddit, buzzfeed–and all over news site, and all over the MSM talking about whether it’s ‘ethical’ to punch a Nazi–and saying ‘yes’.

        And it’s not just black bloccers saying it–it’s people who wouldn’t ever actually hit someone–but having an inciteful conversation about it? Sure. Let’s encourage hitting Nazis,

        And then there’s that word ‘Nazi’. To these people that word is pretty much broad enough that the jokey meme book ‘Everything I don’t like is Hitler’ isn’t a joke anymore. You get that? That second part of your statement? That’s the new reality.

        So I’d say it’s better for people to be aware of this and be ready for sudden leftist violence than it is to chide people about overgeneralizing in posts.

    5. These are likely the same people who proudly declare “its okay to punch a nazi” while claiming that people like Milo, Trump, or anyone they disagree with are nazis. Saw a great quote on Nat Review (of all places):

      Those who claim that free speech is assault, and physical assault to be free speech, are morons of historical proportions

      1. This is why I mentioned a few days ago that if you aren’t doing Warty’s deadlift routine on a regular basis, you’re going to have a hard time in The Current Year.

    6. Yeah, they’ve been setting the stage for that for years. That’s why they conflate speech that offends their fragile sensibilities with “violence” – so that when (not if, when) they turn to violence they’ll be able to convince themselves that it’s all justified. We’re already seeing the start of it with their whole “it’s justifiable to punch ‘Nazis'” horseshit.

  6. “Leftist groups that practice violence?like the ones that shut down Milo Yiannopoulos at UC-Berkeley and attacked Gavin McInnes at New York University?deserve criticism. But Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense.”

    Funniest line in the article. Hey, Robby, let’s test out your theory. How about we just start telling these Leftists that you’re a fascist (the bar for being a fascist has just basically become so low that anyone to the right of Joseph Stalin would qualify) and see who non-violent they are.

    1. Robby is a right-wing journalist who writes for a website/magazine that sorta campaigned against Hillary Clinton.

      Seems pretty fashy.

      1. His magazine is funded by the Kochs. That’s all you have to say and throw-in a ‘climate denialist’ accusation and you got yourself a riot.

        1. Let’s ask these intrepid left-wing SELF-DEFENDERS to pay him a visit.

        2. I was going to ask “Doesn’t Robby support climate change, though, or am I thinking about another Reason writer?” and then I realized that it doesn’t matter. The accusation in itself is sufficient for starting the riot.

  7. Conservatives ought to be happy that liberal students are taking self-defense seriously, since it’s a practical justification for campus concealed-carry?a cause celebre of Republican student groups.

    Leftists don’t generally fight for rights so much as power. There is zero chance they will connect the dots from their own self-defense to the Second Amendment.

    1. They want the right to beat up people they don’t like.

      Those people have the right to take their beating.

    2. There’s actually been an uptick in leftists buying guns since Trump won.

      There was also Carl Rowan, the hardcore anti-gun journalist who was arrested for shooting a teenager in D.C. with an unregistered (and therefore illegal) handgun.

      And let’s not forget Leland Yee.

      I know a lot of leftists who owned guns (even “assault weapons”) long before Trump started campaigning. Leftists tend to believe in a ton of rights for themselves, but they vehemently oppose those same rights for the commoners. They think that when their great dictator seizes power, they’ll be part of the inner party that is allowed all kinds of freedoms.

  8. The first rule of Leftist Fight Club is RUN TO YOUR SAFE SPACE!
    The second rule of Leftist Fight Club is RUN TO YOUR SAFE SPACE!

    1. The first rule of Leftist Fight Club is SNEAK ATTACK!
      The second rule of Leftist Fight Club is ATTACK IN PACKS!
      The third rule of Leftist Fight Club is ONLY ATTACK WHERE THE LEFT CONTROLS THE SECURITY FORCES!

      1. The fourth rule of Leftist Fight Club is YELL At the Security Forces for Not Attacking the Nasty Trumptards!

        1. The fifth rule of Leftist Fight Club is PEPPER SPRAY GIRLS CALMLY TALKING TO REPORTERS IN THE FACE, because nothing says EVIL VIOLENCE MY LIFE IS IN DANGER than a “Make America Great Again” cap. It’s the red color, I guess.

  9. 1. I’m pretty sure snowflake has been around a lot longer than fight club.

    2. Bash the fash doesn’t sound self defense oriented. If conservatives started a self defense club with tag lines like stomp some lefties I don’t think people would presume non violence.

    3. I suspect the safe space stuff is just conservatives using liberal tools against them hopefully to point out their stupidity through over use.

    1. ^This^
      Just goes to show, educated does not mean intelligent… He can’t see through the (very thin) veil. Or, as many of you have suggested, he just doesn’t want to admit it for fear of being labeled an [insert derogatory right-wing term here]. At this point I doubt it’s the latter.

    2. Yes, indeed. The fact that this person wants to teach self defense to everyone but Republicans should raise a red flag. Self defense is self defense — indeed, self defense law can be succinctly summarized as “keep your head down, don’t start fights, but if someone brings the fight to you, do your best to end it with the least amount of force possible” — so it shouldn’t matter who wants to learn it! But excluding Republicans has whiffs of “We’re going to target Republicans”.

      And it also makes me wonder: if you are a campus organization that excludes other people, why are you getting college funding for your event or organization?

      I’m completely fine with people learning self defense, though, regardless of the person learning. But you don’t get to pick fight with “fascists” real or imagined, and then claim “self defense”.

  10. Leftist groups that practice violence?like the ones that shut down Milo Yiannopoulos at UC-Berkeley and attacked Gavin McInnes at New York University?deserve criticism. But Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense.

    I mean the left’s record of violence on college campuses wouldn’t give anyone reason to doubt them when they claim this is for “self defense”.

    Jesus fucking Christ Soave, are you a comedy act now?

  11. But Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense

    Considering how many lefties consider that shutting down that Milo rally was “self-defense” I’m not being optimistic.

  12. Robbie’s just embarrassing herself now.

    1. Well, you’re the expert.

    2. What are Robby’s pronouns, anyway?

      Hairself?

      1. Sweet!

      2. Robby’s pronoun, as far as I am concerned, is now “Little Bitch.” Or “Squeak.”

        I can’t believe I indulged him as much as I did. This post was it. “Trump-inspired hate crimes.” Jesus fucking Christ. Trump is a boor, a bully, a mercurial buffoon, a crony capitalist. He is those things. But the only people responsible for crimes, even “hate crimes,” are the people who commit them.

  13. But Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense.

    The advertising and language they’re using leaves that claim certainly open to interpretation. That said, I can’t see why their right to practice self-defense should somehow be infringed as a result.

    1. The best defense is bashing the fash?

  14. “In response to the record number of *REPORTED* hate crimes ”
    That’s better

    1. Actually reported to authorities, or just to campus administration and magazines like Rolling Stone?

  15. And I thought I was being over the top when I compared Reason to Der Morgen. With Gillespie, Robby, ENB and Dalmia Reason is already at Communist fellow-traveler level.

    1. Reason is now dirtier than your mom.

      1. It’s sad because it’s true.

  16. Could you be any more stupid, Robby? Honest question

  17. Who’s actually teaching the defense? The socialists?

    I’m curious.

  18. In response to the record number of hate crimes against Latinxs, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, the LGBTQIA+ community, Jews, African Americans and other minorities since the rise of Donald Trump and other Alt-Right Neo-Nazis,

    I love how Soave repeats that claim without any contradiction. Did his parents have any children that lived?

    1. It’s a quote you dumb shit. It’s even in quotation marks and cited as being from their website…

      1. Yes its a quote. Posting it is called “repeating it”. Dumb ass.

    2. Actually first rule of journalism ? not even a Fight Club joke here ? corroborate your sources multiplicatively, particularly using both primary and secondary sources if numbers/statistics are involved.

  19. Let me remind you that Reason thought that any criticism of Charlie Hebdo was apologia for Islamic terrorism. So what does all these attacks on Milo and College Republicans mean?

    1. The Reason has sold out and HARD

      1. Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner.

        Cosmotarians…

        1. Cucktarians

          Selling out Libertarians to the Left and the Ruling Reptiles

          1. “Selling out Libertarians to the Left and the Ruling Reptiles.”

            I can respect that.

  20. Oh, God. What I wouldn’t give to teach that class. Getting paid to beat up fresh, young, authoritarian statists is my dream job.

    1. Oh, caveat. As long as their the ones paying me. It’s sexier that way.

      1. *they’re

        1. There.

          1. Had to finish the list.

    2. It appears the class is directed at young authoritarian statists.

      1. It’s called sparring, Paul. My favorite part of all my classes. 😉

          1. I was thinking more along the lines of a busted lip or a dull headache the next day but whatever the insurance covers I’m willing to cover as well.

    3. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KnUOdgrZj7g

      Well if nobody else is going to post it, I give you all the self-defense training you’ll ever need.

      1. +1 Pointed Stick

    4. “Oh, God. What I wouldn’t give to teach that class. Getting paid to beat up fresh, young, authoritarian statists is my dream job.”

      You could purposely train them wrong, as a joke – Wimp Lo style

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY

      1. +1 tiny net

  21. Top 5 threats to my liberty:

    5. Congress.
    4. Trump.
    3. The Supreme Court.
    2. Muslims
    1. Soave.

    1. I’m more interested in your bottom five. If you get my meaning.

    2. Aw, I haven’t made anyone’s list…

  22. Republican students: stop whining.

    Hmmm, I wonder how many times Robby has directly referred to leftist idiocy as whining, and how many times he’s openly qualified about how sincere and important their perspective is no matter how misguided their tactics are.

    Nope, no mask slipping off here, nothing to see here.

    1. Perhaps the editorial slant at Breitbart would be more to your liking.

      1. I think he’d be fine with a libertarian publication that actually valued individual rights, such as speech, above virtue signaling with NO QUALIFICATIONS

      2. “DUR HUR GO TO BREITBART”

        Thank you PB, but I’m already aware you have the intellect of a goldfish, no need to further prove it.

        1. the intellect of a goldfish

          The animal, or the snack? Asking for a friend.

          1. That was funny right there. Sadly, it was also true.

        2. the intellect of a goldfish

          I agree, JT. He has gotten smarter over the years.

  23. http://www.usatoday.com/story/…../97521138/

    Here’s how Reason should have responded to these brownshirt tactics, instead of virtue signaling like a bunch of cowards

    1. Bunch of giant pussies, typing from the safety of their highfalutin, big city headquarters.

  24. In response, some students?possibly Republicans?notified the administration that the existence of the club was making them feeling unsafe.

    While I appreciate the tactical reversal, just fucking stop. Be above it.

    1. It’s all “fight back! Never given an inch.” In this instance it makes them look pathetic.

      1. What’s pathetic is the Noble Loser self image of the Cucks

    2. It isn’t exactly a role reversal, given that it’s a class (reading between the lines a little) designed to teach little blackshirts how to assault Republicans. That’s an entirely valid reason to feel unsafe, unlike someone choosing not to use your preferred pronoun or whatever.

    3. While I appreciate the tactical reversal, just fucking stop. Be above it.

      Wrong.

      Always fight back in kind, with all the weapons they use against you.

  25. I’d love to see the defense methods used. I suspect a lot of Tae Kwon Slappy Face will be employed.

    1. I was guessing it involved spilling hot chocolate on your victims, i mean enemies. Plus learning to make best use of the great traction provided by wearing footie pajamas.

  26. So basically what we’ve determined here is the College Republicans need to start an Or You Could Just Carry A Gun Club, which presumably would take trips down to the nearest firing range and teach everyone gun safety and whatnot. Sounds like a fun time, right?

  27. I’ve nothing against anyone learning “self-defense” or arming themself in principle, but “BASH the FASH” and expressly barring Republicans from attending seem to cross the implicit threat line to me. There are ways to encourage defense training that don’t cross the line into proactive belligerence.

    And hypocrisy isn’t a one-way street. If the sponsor were “conservative” or “white”, rather than “socialist”, the tone of the inverted “BASH” line and expressed exclusion would be equally ugly and provoke ten-times the outrage.

  28. “But Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense.”

    Oh, pull the other one.

    Let’s see, students profess themselves ready to engage in violence against a so-called fascist threat – they want to “bash” people they deem fascists – in reality, the only violent fascists on these campuses are the leftists themselves, so does that mean they’re going to fight themselves? Of course not, they want to do what their counterparts on other campuses have done – initiate attacks against persons and property.

    Click the link to their Facebook page, and you’ll see a drawing of a masked Captain America (as in, wearing a bandana over the mask he already has) punching Hitler in the face, with a burning trash can in the background. They’re using imagery associated with previous left-wing violence, and imagining the assailants as playing the Captain America role against Hitler.

    Of course, we could always believe their disclaimer: “KFS would like to once again reiterate that the sole purpose of this event is to help marginalized communities feel safer from threats, rather perceived or actual, to themselves and their loved ones by establishing a foundation of basic self defense techniques, similar to the self defense clinic’s that many feminist groups help organize. If you have any questions please feel free to message the page! Thank You!”

  29. These sorts of clinics and seminars don’t ever actually go into depth enough to teach anyone how to fight.. that takes years. This just gives someone false confidence and make it more likely they’ll get there butt kicked by starting a fight.. it is important to practice with someone much better than you so you understand just how bad you suck and what a real fighter is like..

    1. I don’t think they’re training people to win in a fair fight.

        1. Or use salt like that dude in Bloodsport. In any case, yeah even with the best quality training what happens is it gives a lot of people the “confidence” to go out and be “assertive” with people. That necessarily means you are either: (1) picking a fight with someone who could potentially do you real damage; or (2), and more often, simply bullying someone who cannot. Either way, you are getting yourself into something immoral, illegal, and (because making enemies is always dangerous) stupid. An ordinary person cannot easily will themselves into being the kind of person who truly does approach getting into “street fights” as a matter of course, and probably does not want to. Trying to half-ass that lifestyle is the stupidest move of all; everyone else should simply be trying to avoid physical confrontation like their life depends on it–because, well, it does of course.

          1. What’s funny is all of the really dangerous people I know and have met over the years usually go out of their way to avoid conflict. They will laugh shit off and/or just ignore you, until you try to put your hands on them. Then they turn the violence up to 11.

      1. If you’re trying to learn self-defense, why would you ever bother to worry about winning a “fair fight”?

        That’s a serious question. A “fair fight” is for when you and your friends are having fun. It’s not for when you actually feel threatened.

    2. Self defense courses usually do one thing of value: give you enough confidence to not walk like a goddamn victim.

      You’re right though, until you end up across someone who knows what they’re doing you don’t realize how slow and shitty you are.

      1. I strongly suspect the point of these “self-defense courses” is to desensitize the participants to violence, so that when they’re in a mob and the shout goes out, “look, a fascist!” the mob members will be able to courageously nerve themselves up to start punching and kicking the “fascist.”

    3. Amen. Nothing makes you lose your “tough guy” persona like getting your ass handed to you by a girl half your size during your first sparring class. Then you find out she has three black belts and you realize that the dudes there could “really” mess you up.

  30. I think we have a raise for the toilet here. Who is shittier? Shikha or Robo?

    1. Shikha, but Robby is working hard to take her place as the dumbest dumbfuck on Reason’s payroll.

  31. I was trying to figure out what the alt-right is all about and I came across this Trumpism and the Reforging of An Imperial America and realized “Imperial” is not a pejorative. They speak of Trump as a sovereign ruler, as the strong hand necessary to guide the destiny of the state, as if a stern father over his children.

    This is much less an ideology about pulling power levers to benefit factions and more an embrace of sovereignty over a unitary whole. Unlike the previous president, his agenda is not weaponized multiculturalism, but one of looking after both the ethnic foundation and the empire’s smaller subject peoples. This is someone who conceived of the gravity of his task all along while his seeming effortlessness was mistaken for naivet?. Trump’s proposed governing paradigms for the country are in essence extensions of how he has already ruled over his dynasty and its holdings. The people are to be looked after and their patrimony to be the envy of the world. The paterfamilias is the root of all statecraft and its most stable form.

    Long live the God-Emperor. Make America Great Again.

    They ain’t joking. either.

    And then that led me to this – these people have some distinctly un-libertarian ideas.

    1. I miss the old fashioned country club conservatives. This new alt-right are nothing but a bunch of nationalistic, militaristic, xenophobic anti-trade, Big Government Bible-beaters.

      There is a term for them too.

  32. But Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense.

    Then you’re not very bright or just dishonest. The first rule of SJWs is that SJWs always lie.

    1. But only for the best reasons!

  33. “For our first seminar, a local amateur boxer will teach us the basics of hand to hand combat. Following his instruction, we will all have the opportunity to face off against one another and practice what we’ve learned.”

    Proper response: Campus Republicans bring NRA certified instructors on campus to teach the basics of guns for self defense. Invites everyone, including self-styled fash-bashers, but makes sure to establish a safe space complete with a huggable Eddie Eagle mascot.

    1. You bring a fist. We bring a gun.

    2. “For our first seminar, a local amateur boxer will teach us the basics of hand to hand combat. Following his instruction, we will all have the opportunity to face off against one another and practice what we’ve learned.”

      As stated by mp, MikeT and TfP above, you’re not learning a damn thing fighting each other. To improve in a martial art you must compete against somebody better than you, full stop. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen a very fit guy who could whip his buddies strut into the gym and get knocked out of his socks by a smaller guy of mediocre skill.

  34. For the record, the Intern writes better than Soave does, and more professionally. Think about that.

  35. Robby you gave us Anna Merlan and for this you will forever be remembered but even The Littlest Hobo knew when it was time to move on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgGKSjiw0HQ

    1. The Littlest Hobo was a better libertarian than Robby is.

      1. No kidding. A true iconoclast. He carried a shot gun in his mouth!

  36. Self-defense: awesome, everyone should do it.

    Training for war: exactly what these snowflakes are doing.

    I thought you were woke, Robby?

  37. Right leaning students are “blatantly hypocritical” when his evidence that any of the students complaining are “right leaning” in the manner Soave suggests does not rise above speculation.

    Unverified but accurate.

  38. Leftist Flight Club doesn’t purport to start any fights, as far as I can tell. Instead, it’s teaching people self-defense.

    I suspect the campus Republican’s concern isn’t that they’re showing an interest in self-defense, but they’re worried that these violent twits won’t be content to stick to strictly defense.

    I’d feel more enthusiastic about this development if they just held self defense seminars that allowed anyone, regardless of gender, gender identity, race, political affiliation, or any other idiotic class warfare identity characteristic to attend, but since they’re specifically excluding right leaning students (and I’m assuming any white cis-gendered heterosexual male will be considered “right leaning” for this exercise) from attending and talking openly about learning how to “BASH THE FASH,” which doesn’t exactly sound very defensive to me, I think the college Republicans may be right to feel a little threatened.

  39. This ought to be applauded.

    “In response to the record number of hate crimes against Latinxs, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, the LGBTQIA+ community, Jews, African Americans and other minorities since the rise of Donald Trump and other Alt-Right Neo-Nazis, Knights for Socialism has decided to host a series of self-defense clinics for anyone that wants to learn how to BASH THE FASH,”

    You are a fucking retard, Robby. Completely and totally retarded beyond all measure. They cite a litany of almost entirely fabricated “hate crimes” as their justification and they offer trainees the chance to “bash a fash”. Self-defense from what? The left are the ones physically attacking people. The left has been screaming that opinions they disagree with are violence. They say that people they disagree with are nazis. And they say that it’s okay to punch nazis. This is “self-defense” like the Vietnam War was a defense of some boat in the gulf of Tonkin.

    Can you do math you fine haired fuck?

    Indeed, it’s blatantly hypocritical for right-leaning students to complain about needing a safe space when liberals suddenly show an interest in self-defense.

    FUCK YOU. The right wing students are literally being attacked by leftists at college campuses and people not too unlike your own stupid fuck self are bending over backwards to give them moral justifications.

    1. It’s like all these idiots really want a war. It will not end well for them.

      1. I can’t describe to you the frustration I feel about Robby calling right-wingers hypocrites because they don’t feel safe with this happening. They have a right to not feel safe, because unlike like leftists it’s not opinions they are claiming fear of, it’s antifa thugs they say they are afraid of. Actual fucking violence that is actually befalling them. How that can be colored as hypocrisy, I’m not sure. One would need to understand the mind of lilly livered man-child like Robby Soave, which is a tall order.

        1. Even better, this girl-wristed fop is telling these bastards: “Look! I’m one of the cool ones, no need to attack me!”

          1. Robby doesn’t realize he would be one of the first up against the wall in a communist revolution, but that won’t ever stop him from being a useful idiot. There’s too much evidence of him ridiculing the college left. You’re either 100% in agreement, or you’re a “fascist”.

      2. No shit it won’t.

        1. I hope they get their little war good and hard. Have no doubt that Robby will be excusing them every step of the way.

  40. To Attack Deplorables, Leftist Students Start Street Gang ‘Fight Club,’ Which Actually Sounds Awesome

    Long-time commenters: GTFO

    Fixed it, asshole.

    1. Let’s face it, Robby sees his fellow travelers dispensing violence on “vile” and “loathsome” alt-right suspects, and he like what he sees. Because Robby is one of them. He may not be macing people, he may not be hitting people with flagpoles, but he is beating people over the head with lies to further the cause of his violent antifa compatriots. Mark my fucking words, this lefitst violence will escalate and Robby will lend moral support to them for every damn step.

  41. “in response, some students?possibly Republicans?notified the administration that the existence of the club was making them feeling unsafe. UCF is looking into the matter, which is completely unnecessary.”

    possibly republicans? Robby you mean you are attributing a headline to them but you don’t even know for sure?

    Wow.

    1. Yes I noticed this too. Considering the rarity of college-aged republicans, and the massive demonstrations the SJW’s can summon up at the barest slight, not to mention their eagerness to turn on each other the second they see a new opportunity to claim victimhood, I think Bayes might tell us to be a little more cautious in our speculation.

  42. Being a libertarian minded journalist with mediocre writing skills and a flimsy grasp of logic doesn’t really pay. Robby’s got to eat, and The Daily Beast and Robby’s dream employer Huffington Post needs token non-threatening people nominally on the right of the political spectrum. So called ‘reasonable’ types who will also side with them when push comes to shove.

    1. Robby’s trying out for the role of useful idiot?

      1. He’s obviously over qualified.

  43. So where in this piece did republican students say they needed a safe space? I can’t find it.

    1. It’s in the same paragraph where Pepe the frog fans bemoabn the tribute to historically Black college football players.

  44. BASH THE FASH

    Boy, and I thought those folks going on with the helicopter ride memes were being silly gooses.

    1. There’s quite a few members of Reason’s staff who I’d like to take on a helicopter ride at the moment.

        1. Nobody at reason is helicopter worthy. Just send them to the soccer stadium.

  45. Remember guys, it’s only about punching Nazi’s*

    * and people who think you shouldn’t sucker punch Nazi’s

    1. She’s Arab-German.. You know who else would consider that the pinnacle of human evolution?

      1. al-Pok?monnen?

  46. I’ve talked to several commenters over the weekend who decided to leave forever. Many of them were second guessing their decisions.

    Until this article.

    Reason: If you want another thousand bucks from me next year, plus several times that at the Reason weekend, fix Robby, or get rid of him. And I’m not the only one who feels this way.

    This shit is inexcusable.

    1. Cosmos, yokels, blue, red, indigo, one legged pirate hookers and two legged regular hookers all agree….Robby is fucking terrible. Can his ass.

      1. He’s been bad even before the Trump mania, right? I’m pretty sure I remember his old articles getting complaints too.

        1. Yes, back when there were people defending him by claiming Robby’s detractors were obsessed with purity. Well not now, no one disagrees about who he is at this point. It’s not even a question of purity, it’s a question of utterly intellectually dishonest he is. Not just Robby either, Reason Magazine has handled the post-Trump election violence abysmally. I never thought they could sink so damn low. I’m ashamed to have promoted this magazine to people in the past.

    2. Robby’s already fixed.

      Oh, you meant as in “repair”. Gotcha.

      1. I have never understood exactly why people hate him so much. But I agree this was fucking awful. Shikha is the real shitshow, though. If I were in charge, I’d get rid of her and drop Chapman. Not out of their failing any ideological litmus test, but out of just plain poor quality. Replace them with non-libertarians, even. Smart people have smart things to say.

        1. Nobody reads Dalmia. Nobody. The only person who interacts with her on twitter is our resident troll/stalker.

          If the Reason foundation wants to blow money on her salary, fine. She’s too unpopular to do any damage.

          1. But then what damage is poor pretty Robby doing? Everybody can simply avoid reading any author they don’t like, after all; I thought people wanted him fired to free up the line for someone of higher quality.

            1. Other people read Robby, and link to him. Not so with Dalmia.

              As for recommendations for someone of higher quality, this just came out today.

          2. I think the real damage is that casual or first time readers might mistake her drivel for libertarianism.

    3. Someday someone is going to have to explain to me why he or anything he writes matters so much to you guys.

      1. I gave a decent summary just the other day to someone

    4. Pan Zag shared the Reason Foundation’s 2015 financial statement with me over the weekend and I’m sorry to say the commentariate donations mean fuck all.

      As Pan said(paraphrasing) “We are not their target audience, we’re not they’re means of financing, we mean nothing to them.”

      1. When you get into the torchbearers and the fundraising that goes on there, it absolutely does matter.

        Don’t confuse that with the webathon.

        Reason weekend is in one month, and they want $1900/person, not including hotel rooms. I don’t doubt that there are several commenters who were considering going, but aren’t now.

        1. Good point. I’d link the statement so you could disect it further but Pan’s link was in pdf form and I’m a bit of a computer illiterate.

          It was on Friday night’s How a Never-Enforced Rule story.

          1. Statement is but a Google search away 🙂

            Income listed under “Reason magazine”: 923,723
            (webathon was just shy of $250K, not sure if it goes under magazine or contributions)

            Expenses:
            Reason Magazine: 3,590,819

            No way readership covers it. So we’re not the customers, and obviously not the audience.

            1. Thanks for picking up my slack.

              *fist-bumps Pan*

              You know, to this day, you’re the only person to ever give me a *standind ovation*.

              Thank you for that.

              1. *standing

            2. *clicks link*

              That’s still coming up as a pdf. Maybe I need to make a tech upgrade?

              1. Oh. Yeah it’s a PDF, but it’s a reasonable one you can copy/paste from with some ease. Plus, Playa is smarter than I am, he can work with it 😀

                1. I figured as much.

                  Since you’re here, I won’t comment further.
                  I’m sure you can make your own argument with Playa far better than I could.

        2. I don’t know if Reason staff read the comments – I’d be tempted not to if I were them.

          But I’d seriously give $1,000 to a fundraiser to kick Robbie Soave out of the magazine.

          I am not kidding.

          Reason, hold that fundraiser. Your faithful true will come back to you, I am sure.

      2. Well I hope then when the mob finally comes for the Koch brothers and they reach out make their case, they realize there will be no one here who gives a shit anymore.

      3. In the interest of self aggrandizement, I made a similar point a few days ago.

    5. Are they carrying on the hilarity elsewhere, or did they ride into the sunset?

    6. Which commenters?

    7. Do people have any other place their going? Don’t want to be left behind.

  47. “You are not special. You’re not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You’re the same decaying organic matter as everything else.”

    Don’t tell Ayn Rand!

    1. Hey can you help me out since you are a liberal and thus a generous and compassionate person?

  48. Where are all these record number of hate crimes? Are they in judicial system?

    Not sure the SPLC unverified claims counts.

    1. Well since the Berkeley riots were clearly a false flag attack by Trump supporters….

    2. After Brexit, they used data that only looked back all of a month to make the claim (when the ‘spike’ was completely within historical norms of ‘hate crimes’ as they were being defined to go along with unverifiable tweets. Then consider that ‘hate crimes’ in the UK as they were being tracked weren’t actual crimes at all. They were simply reports made to some hotline to begin with.

      Just to add to the perspective here.

    3. OK, stop the joke. It was fun to begin with, but now it’s just plain creepy.

      I want the real AmSoc back. There. I said it.

      1. Sorry no can do, unless as i have told him, he will have to pay for it in a monetary currency (US dollars)

        1. …..Pay Up, Buttplug?

        2. What kind of libertarian are you? Bitcoin or GTFO.

      2. I want to keep this version. I don’t feel the urge to grab a hammer and bowl of change to see if it’s possible to pound some cents into someone.

  49. “Self-defense classes” that do not give potentially tragically shitty strategic and legal advice are already few and far between under the best of circumstances. But I can provide one of far greater value here online in under ten seconds…Lesson 1: Please, Leftists, run–do not walk– away from any that profess to teach you to “BASH THE FASH” with “hand to hand combat.” Your dumb ass is about to get put in the hospital or butt-raped in prison.
    .
    But now you can avoid that fate with your brain, which is a hell of a lot more in the way of “self-defense” than anything you are going to learn in that silly class. Go to class, study hard, and graduate quickly, kids.

    1. Edit: “Your dumb ass is about to get put in the hospital, or butt-raped in prison.” Thought I had a comma there. I really need to clean my monitor.

      1. “I really need to clean my monitor.”

        These euphemisms are getting very detailed.

        1. Alright, maybe “monitor” was a bit of an exaggeration. But I’m packin’ at least a gila monster. I swear!

  50. Knights for Socialism”? I am surprised the marginalized students of UCF have allowed their so-called voice to explicitly condone the survival of such a sexist, gender-binarist, militarist, heirarchy-affirming, literally pro-gentrification school nickname.

    1. It’s pronounced “ka-niggits”.

  51. See i used to think robby got a bad rep unnecessarily but now not so sure.

    1. You could always park it and use another account or create another account and change the name over to that one.

      1. This occurred to me but i need to create another email…sigh. If i decide to stop being so lazy i will do this.

        I am pretty OCD about that sort of stuff (like having multiple email accounts open even if i don’t use)

  52. Self-defense? Someone seriously believes this? This is military training for the coming revolution. This is incitement to violence. Ernst Rohm and the Brownshirts. Il Duce and the Blackshirts. This is Fascism getting ready to kick down the door. This is insanity run amok with no one willing to stand up and say “NO!” As Lincoln said, “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” Strap yourselves in because the ride gets bumpy from here.

  53. So lemme get this straight, Robby…

    A bunch of leftists who are actually employing violent tactics to shut down political speech are really just practicing ‘self-defense.’ (There are no self-defense techniques that can’t also be used for offense.)

    But…

    In your article at The Daily Beast, you accuse a Milo supporter of ‘violence’ after he practiced what very much actually appears to be self-defense. That was your only citation for how the ‘right wing’ on campus are also violent. Actual self-defense.

  54. Go. The. Fuck. To. Hell. Robby

    What’s next stats about how 20% of LGBT people have totally been beaten up by Trump voters?

    Or maybe how we need new rules and LGBT folks should just get to point at anyone and to claim “hate crime” and lock them up because “preponderance of evidence.”

    You sound like a fucking Rolling Stone writer….

  55. A boxer is going to teach them self defense? They’re going to get wrecked when the fight goes to ground which only happens 99.9% of the time in the first 0.00000001 seconds.

    Geez, at least learn some real fighting like utilizing makeshift weapons or an arm-bar.

    1. Heheheh….sure. It’s been totally useless in all my scraps. Spot on.

    2. Learning to punch and avoid punches is going to be a valuable skill. Fights may indeed go to the ground if you let someone close in enough to be grabbed, so you should also learn to avoid that. And if it’s going to be a sucker punch that grounds you, well, if that happens at that point you are likely to be in very bad shape anyway.

      In general, you should try like hell to keep a fight off the ground, not rely on your skills for handling them once they get there, certainly not trying to get them there to utilize your comparative advantage on the ground. It’s a very hazardous place generally.

      1. Fighting on the ground is okay if there’s only one opponent.

  56. “Conservatives ought to be happy that liberal students are taking self-defense seriously, since it’s a practical justification for campus concealed-carry?a cause celebre of Republican student groups.”

    Man, no wonder I stopped coming to this site.

    How can you read about politics all day and make that claim with a straight face? What the hell world do you even live in? Do you really think anyone is going to accept that argument? Nobody operates on “logical consistency” in the real world, especially when you have two competing groups trying to vie for power on campuses. The left doesn’t want you to have guns on campus for self defense, they’re not going to concede that people should be allowed to have them because of some appeal to logical consistency. They. Don’t. Care. How can you read about these people day in and day out and not come to that conclusion? They don’t care about logical consistency, I could show you a million examples.

    And it’s quite obvious that this doesn’t end at self defense, because 1. These are the same people justifying striking first, and 2. There is nothing to defend from, there are no conservatives/right wing people attacking these groups. Of course they’re going to say it’s about self defense, I’m not sure the campus would allow a group that has a stated purpose of “training people to punch Nazis.”

  57. Never bring a fist to a gun fight.

  58. Oddly enough, the original Fight Club was very progressive, because it permitted accommodations to its “no shirts” rule to avoid bodyshaming the involuntarily transitioning Robert Paulson.

  59. open to everyone except Republicans

    O RLY? I assume they meet off campus on their own dime, because otherwise they’d be breaking some university rules – right?

    1. It’s also a bit odd. “Open to everyone but Republicans“? This is how you refer to your enemy? What is this, a mimeograph from 1972? What sort of conservative activist or for that matter voter identifies himself as a “Republican” anymore? And in any case it seems a bit odd that actual Neo-Nazis are technically allowed to join and study the unbeatable secret techiques of Left-Fu–just not actual Republicans.

  60. I’m afraid Robbie is living in a dreamworld. Perhaps he can be convinced to write a big long article listing all the violence committed by right wingers.

  61. The first rule of Socialist Fight Club is we do talk about Socialist Fight Club. Like, a lot.

    1. Oh, fuck, the alt text took my joke! I didn’t even know Reason had alt text this whole time!

  62. To guard against Trump-inspired hate crimes,

    because those are a thing

  63. Sure, it sounds awesome if you’re pining for the days of the SLA and Weatherman

  64. Wow. How can Robby “applaud” this?

    Even if one wants to argue that this activity is constitutionally protected because it doesn’t rise to the level of incitement to violence, it’s clear that this group is playing fast and loose with “self-defense” vs. “kicking the asses of people whose politics we don’t like”:

    “BASH THE [fill in group of people]” is hardly typical language of self-defense. It’s a message of aggression.

    The group’s Facebook page features a picture of an Anarchist Captain America wearing a bandana and punching a man in the face. The latter man is wearing a business suit and tie. Anarchist Captain America, with his shield, appears better armed than the other man.

    What’s the point of excluding Republicans? The easy to follow conclusion is that it’s because, in the eyes of the organizers, they’re the fascists. The post directly calls Trump a Neo-Nazi. Doing so is obviously protected free speech, even if overwrought.

    But it’s hardly tinfoil hat to connect the dots here as “we’ll teach you how to fight so that you can kick the crap out of anyone who supports Trump – but it’s really just self-defense, wink, wink”. It’s one thing to make a principled argument that activity isn’t threatening enough to be illegal, but Robby goes well beyond that to “applaud” it and mock any student who finds it threatening.

  65. A local amateur boxer can teach you how to win primate dominance contests, sure. They can’t teach you much of anything about self-defense. If someone is looking to hurt you for real, not merely assert dominance, they will use a weapon — and that’s been true since first rock was picked up and thrown by the first ancestral great ape. Boxing doesn’t include anything about dealing with weapons.

    It’s of course possible for a dominance contest to escalate into a real fight — but knowing how to win a dominance contest won’t help you if it does escalate. If you’re afraid of serious harm, you don’t ask a boxer to give you pointers.

    On the other hand, if what you’re actually after is learning how to dominate and intimidate people effectively, while avoiding charges of assault with a deadly weapon, asking a boxer for tips makes sense. You want to walk up to someone and punch them because you don’t like what they’re saying, boxing will help you with that.

  66. One day, when defenders of social justice for women carry out vicarious self-defense against the people who undermine rape narratives and therefore are practically rapists themselves, I wonder if Robby will be so sanguine about where all this is headed. The internet is forever, Robby, and you’ve already chosen sides.

    First they came for the white nationalists, etc. The time to condemn this without equivocation is now. Unless… you actually believe this is actually about what ordinary people consider self-defense? I mean, that’s beyond gullible. I think it’s already been explained many times that the snowflake tactic of equating hurtful (which, given the desire to be offended, could be anything) words with violence was in part to set the stage for “defending” against that “violence” with actual violence. If after everything that’s happened, you don’t see this for what it is, you’re a damn fool.

  67. decided to host a series of self-defense clinics for anyone that wants to learn how to BASH THE FASH

    Let’s not kid ourselves: these people aren’t talking about “self-defense” in the usual sense; these are progressive brown shirts itching to go out and beat up Trump supporters, conservatives, and libertarians.

    1. I suspect that won’t go the way they think it will.

  68. BASH THE FASH

    Totally sounds like “self-defense”, don’t it?

    All the “Trump inspired” hate crimes are from the organized Leftist rioters attacking Trump supporters.

    Will Robby cheer when the Right starts sending their own paramilitary forces to beat Leftists in the streets?

  69. Have these White Knights forgotten which side has all the weaponry? (Well besides the urban youth of Chicago)

  70. Rico, your arguments would be more persuasive if these children didn’t define “fascist” as “anyone who disagrees with my politics.” The rest is just delusional paranoia.

  71. The eternal questions of who do the laws apply to, where do they apply, do those who wrote the laws actually represent the population(do democratically voted in representatives matter), are there universal laws and what are they….What you answer to these types of questions reveal what you believe in…..

    “This event is open to everyone and anyone, EXCEPT REPUBLICANS.”

  72. Robby and Reason drop another steaming pile of shit. Film at 11. Many others above have already made the points I would have made. Well done.

    The Left has made life miserable for any non-leftist on campus for years now. Speech codes that enshrine Leftist dogmas make it nearly impossible to discuss political differences without being brought up on “hate speech” charges. The Leftist driven rape culture nonsense is destroying the lives of men who haven’t committed a crime. And they equate speech with violence and violence with speech. There’s more besides I’m just too tired to go on.

    I’m nearly 60 years old. Virtually all the political violence of any consequence that has occurred in my lifetime has come from the Left. What we’ve seen lately is just more of the same. The Left reveres violence. If the worthies at Reason haven’t figured out who the totalitarians are in this country by now, they probably never will. And more’s the pity.

    And fuck you Soave, you intellectually dishonest shit stain. If you’re a defender of free speech, it’s in serious trouble. Pathetic.

    1. One more thing. What kind of moral cretin are you Soave that you mock the fears of college Republicans? They face violence and threats of violence all the time, but that doesn’t bother you for some reason. I guess they deserve it huh? Enjoy being a putz.

    2. The Left has made life miserable for any non-leftist on campus for years now.

      Not just on campus. Try being in certain industries and out of the closet as a non-leftist…

  73. Wasn’t the first homework assignment, of the Fight Club in the movie, to pick a fight with a stranger?

    1. Indeed, and in perpetuity…if Robby had any semblance of decency he’d quit.

      And that video was…superb. Bravo!

  74. “In response to the record number of hate crimes against Latinxs, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, the LGBTQIA+ community, Jews, African Americans and other minorities since the rise of Donald Trump and other Alt-Right Neo-Nazis,

    a citation would be nice. So would some skepticism from the person reporting this as fact.

  75. Personally I hope the left brings it on sooner rather than later. It would have been wiser for them to wait, and let the generations that were raised to value freedom get older and die off, replaced by foreigners who are used to submitting to tyranny and the meager millenial generations warped by public school indoctrination.

    It’s good when your enemy does something unwise. We should encourage it. I’m not sure that Soros, Obama, and Schumer etc. even have the ability to keep these thugs on a leash anymore.

    1. It would have been wiser for them to wait

      Nope. They waited too long. They should have come 100 years ago, like they did in Russia. But, Russia wasn’t enough. It’s too late. People see that they have options. The future is not a monoculture like so many people think is going to happen. The future is choices. And the future is not everyone uploading their brains to a single internet. The future is choices.

  76. I see what you mean… Jesse `s postlng is neat… on monday I bought a top of the range Jaguar E-type after I been earnin $7477 this-last/4 weeks and-even more than, 10-k last-munth . no-doubt about it, this really is the most comfortable job Ive had . I started this seven months/ago and right away was making more than $73 per-hr . go right here…
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  77. I see what you mean… Jesse `s postlng is neat… on monday I bought a top of the range Jaguar E-type after I been earnin $7477 this-last/4 weeks and-even more than, 10-k last-munth . no-doubt about it, this really is the most comfortable job Ive had . I started this seven months/ago and right away was making more than $73 per-hr . go right here…
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  78. “”In response to the record number of hate crimes against Latinxs, Immigrants, Muslims, Women, the LGBTQIA+ community, Jews, African Americans and other minorities since the rise of Donald Trump and other Alt-Right Neo-Nazis”

    When did that happen? There isn’t a “record number of hate crimes”, the idea that it’s more dangerous for these groups than say, the 1970s is laughable. There do seem to be a record number of faked hate crimes however.

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  80. Are the “safe-space” complaints made in earnest? Somehow I doubt it. I suspect rather that they are made to highlight the idiocy and unbalanced nature of such policies. Sometimes actual reductio ad absurdum is the only way to break down such policies.

    Or perhaps the Young Republicans have taken a page from Alinsky…

    ?the fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.
    ?the fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
    ?the sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.

    ?The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.

  81. “Organizers stress that women are especially welcome to attend, which is open to everyone except Republicans. ”

    So Libertarians will be allowed? Cause I’d like to punch some leftists in the face, all the more fun if they’re just gonna line to get punched in the face!

  82. What “Trump-inspired hate crimes,” you virtue-signalling little turd?

  83. WTF would you write this headline and call this “Awesome”… Goddamn, Reason is about to jump the fucking shark by pissing off real libertarians who oppose political violence. Fucking A, this is fucked.

    1. They are promoting leftist violence

  84. If this had anything to do with actual self-defense, they wouldn’t start by having a boxer give the first lesson.

    The first lessons in self-defense would be situational awareness and how to safely flee. A boxer is not an expert in either of these things. A boxer is an expert in striking–or we could say, in bashing. If there is anything at all about how to injure or “bash” an opponent in the early stages of a self-defense class, then it is not a self-defense class. In fact, there is very little that one can take from boxing that would translate into viable self-defense.

    Self-defense is about recognizing dangerous situations and taking the steps necessary to remove oneself from such situations, including using force to accomplish this goal.

    Boxing is about knocking an opponent unconscious.

    And this doesn’t even touch on the absurdity of a campus group teaching combat skills to only those of a particular political party. Or the ridiculous claim that liberal leaning college campuses are brimming with low IQ white supremacists.

  85. ….so let me see if I understand this correctly. They are going to have “self-defence clinics”? The first of which will be instructed by a local amateur boxer? And this is “self-defence”. Please.

    Let me tell you something right now, if you start your discussion of self-defence with just the skills to throw hands, you are not doing self-defence. You aren’t. You are actually failing in that endeavour, because when you have gotten yourself into a situation where you have to throw hands you have more or less failed all the self-defence steps you should have taken to not have to throw hands to begin with. Avoidance, de-escalation, escape, etc. If you were really interested in self-defence, these are the things you teach first or at the very least point out where they can learn this.

    But “BASH THE FASH”? If this is the way you are marketing yourself, you can claim self-defence all you want, but really what you are advertising is lessons in atleast mutual combat or more likely in this case Assault. And if you have to go to court over an assault charge and your prosecutor goes down this line of inquiry you will be putty in his hands to shape you into looking like a degenerate who went out of his way looking for a fight. Have fun dealing with that.

    Soave should be ashamed of himself for this one. Who are the ones most likely to actually respond to this kind of marketing? It’s going to be future Black Bloc recruits. This has Black Bloc recruiting written all over it.

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  88. … You know, I see idiot commenters like the lot of you, and I feel like I should go find a local Pink Pistols chapter to piss you off. Or is learning to defend myself with a gun somehow okay, but learning to do it barehanded (a far more likely scenario as concealed carry would be difficult for numerous reasons) weirdly deplorable?

    Full disclosure: I am not and have never been a libertarian/Libertarian and do not claim that label. The lot of you have labeled me “progtard”, “leftists”, “tulpa” and so-on.

    1. I feel like I should go find a local Pink Pistols chapter to piss you off.

      Everyone here has strongly advocated/endorsed pink pistols for years.

      you’re not making any sense.

  89. The Anti-Fascists want to genocide White People. Wake up Whites!

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  92. They consider physically attacking people, whose views they believe are intolerable, as self defense.

    And record number of attacks on their communities? Most of these incidents are hoaxes. Yes, they should learn to defend themselves from legitimate attacks, but that’s not what is happening. That’s not what they will do with it. They want to silence anyone who disagrees with them.

  93. saw several people in my facebook feed talking about this recently. at first it was the obvious fight club references. quickly became an expression of sadness that this isn’t nationwide and that it’s only for self-defense.

    i guess i shouldn’t expect better from people who had to be coerced into giving trump a chance, and then five minutes later decided he had blown the ample opportunity they had given him. don’t get me wrong, trump is an idiot, but this is just depressing.

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