Why Do People Buy Things They Don't "Need"?
Find the answer in Greece this summer with former Reason Editor Virginia Postrel.

One of the longest-lived criticisms of "capitalism" revolves ideas of "false needs." We've all heard variations of this. It runs through popular books such as Vance Packard's The Hidden Persuaders and Paul Goodman's Growing Up Absurd (the introduction of which is openly misogynistic, blaming women's uncontrolled desires for the newest appliances for men's subjugation to the grey-flannel corporate job scene).
Former Reason Editor Virginia Postrel has written extensively and persuasively on why consumption isn't simply some banal activity we engage in because our corporate or cultural overlords have programmed us thus. In books such as The Substance of Style and The Power of Glamour, she argues instead that consumption can be an act of self-creation and community building. Now, you can take a course with her on the topic this summer, in Greece. In this a purchase you don't "need"? Maybe, but as someone who has learned a hell of a lot from her even before I joined the staff of Reason over 20 years ago, I'm sure it will be an experience that you'll enjoy immensely.
She's teaching "Culture and Consumption: Why People Buy Things They Don't 'Need'" as part of a group called Unbound Prometheus and her course unfolds over July 23 through August 5th. Other classes are available too, and the setting is Kavala, a city of 70,000 on the north side of Greece. The cost of the program is $2,700 for one course and covers accommodations, which is a pretty great deal. The deadline to register if February 1, so if you're interested, check the materials out soon.
For more on the course, including the syllabus and reading materials (many of which will be familiar to Reason readers), go here.
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I don't think she would be happy if many or any members of the hit and run comment community showed up at her class.
Does it count for CE credit...
Haha, excellent.
I'm just imagining you, sloopy, Pro LIb, RC Dean and SugarFree set loose on the poor Greeks. and Ms. Postrel.
SugarFree has the power of glamour.
[preens and struts]
Then I hope these fucking plane tickets are refundable.
Academic tourism? Is this something new?
Nah, man. Peter the Great did it 300 years ago. He and his entourage also tore up many a nobleman's home while doing so...the OG fratboy.
Sorry, I don't "need" to go to Greece and hear Ginny Postrel in exchange for $2700.
That left a mark.
That's drachma, to you.
phake munny!
Hmm this guy is making a lot of sense to me though.
You had me at 'misogynistic'?
To paraphrase Tyler Durden: Advertising has us working jobs we hate so we can our wives and girlfriends shit they don't need.
*...buy our...*
It gets expensive having to buy shit for your wife and your girlfriend both.
Still cheaper as long as the wife doesn't find out.
Ah, the standard Marxist complaint.
Need doesn't figure into capitalism. Only value and the creation of it.
I value being able to eat. Therefore, I cannot be a Marxist because Marxists starve populations to death.
I want it, and I have the money. Need has nothing to do with it.
Presumably, for consistency sake, communists all sustain themselves via soylent green and tap water only? I mean, do you NEEED to eat something that tastes good when it isn't nutritionally essential?
Nobody NEEDS more than 2300 calories /Bernie
"Need"'s got nothing to do with it.
And I'm sure as hell not paying several grand for someone to tell me what I already know.
Buy my book on how to become a millionaire!
Don't tell me what to do.
Do I need to?
The secret is "sell a pile of self-help books to insecure people"
Well, you wouldn't be asking that if you were a millionaire.
I didn't "need* the slide whistle bought but I sure as hell love it. Never under estimate the power of immaturity where purchases are concerned.
You know what else got nothing to do with it?
Reason?
Love?
It is just a second-hand emotion.
Deserve
Hitler?
"In this a purchase you don't "need"?
I'm not....sure.
Greece?
Excellent (ironic) choice.
To be fair, there is a difference between buying something you don't need and buying something you can't afford. The two are not always synonyms.
She should do the next one in Somalia just to make a bunch of proggies flip their shit. The true libertarian state, right?
And after that Nunavut.
On a barge off Tahiti.
How about Dildo, Newfoundland?
This is the sort of thing she means when she says unflattering things about H&R commenters.
You know what's really unfair?
Why people have to need things they won't buy.
What about that, Mr. Smarty-Pants Kapitalist?
won't?
That's on them.
The government is making other people buy what you need but won't buy yourself.
For extremely loose definitions of 'need'.
Tell me more about these smartypants. Do they come in brown?
Yes, we have an entire factory of millennials contemplating the upcoming Trump inauguration to meet demand.
And brown is the only color they come in.
Why people have to need things they won't buy.
Like overpriced Health Insurance.
$2700 to spend two weeks in Greece listening to some lady talk about buying things I don't need. Will she be discussing way overpaying for things I don't need as well?
Probably with field trips into "traditional" Greek countryside stores for practical learning as well.
Labor saving devices are not consumption, they're capital.
Why are you plugging this here Nick? It's not like Postrel is going to allow members of the Reason commentariat into the same room with her.
A wise woman.
TIWTANLW
Who among us would allow the Reason commentariat into the same room with them?
I would. Hell, when I get the money, I'm gonna buy a ranch in south Texas and put cabins on it to have a reason retreat once a year.
Not sure how many of the staff will get an invite though. I don't plan on putting up signage about trigger warnings.
I'll go as long as the Orphans sleep in the barn.
I bet the Staff would be down for a snipe hunt. Gotta wait for a moonless night though, I'll bring the hillbilly hunting "assistants" just to keep them, you know, entertained.
We need to have a Reason commentariat "Top Hats and Monocles" foxhunt.
This never would have happened when Postrel was here.
*mind blown*
"One of the longest-lived criticisms of "capitalism" revolves ideas of "false needs.""
I've long marveled about how Marxists were able to seamlessly pivot from "capitalism starves everyone" to "capitalism provides too much, turning the world into a crass, consumerist hellhole."
I've long marveled about how Marxists were able to seamlessly pivot from "capitalism starves everyone" to "capitalism provides too much, turning the world into a crass, consumerist hellhole."
It was really hammered home for me how full of shit they really are when I once heard one make that pivot in literally less than 2 minutes.
My fave Marxist bullshit is how labor is the source of all value. So why does anyone work for anyone else? Because capital stole their money and enslaved them... somehow!
It's not that labor is the source of all value. Marxists don't recognize value added. Capital and materials are known costs. Since capital + materials + labor = value, if you sell for more it can only be because you exploited the labor. They can't see that it is worth something to me for someone to organize activities to turn a ton of metal into a car.
Investors and insurers also add value by risking assets. But explaining that is even harder than explaining the value added by managers.
No one really needs anything in an absolute sense. You need certain things for certain purposes is all. You need air and food and water and shelter to stay alive. But you don't actually need to be alive. Just sitting there until you die is a perfectly real option.
So the question must be "what do we need to live the way we want to live?". And the answer depends entirely on what each individual wants their life to be.
That's an interesting view of it. For human beings, some form of entertainment is also a definite 'need.' If blowing money on random stuff is a form of entertainment, then frittering could very well be classified as a need.
Just sitting there until you die is a perfectly real option.
Did you really need to be born?
No. But it suits me well, I think.
*shouts Zeb's... mom's abortion*
So the question must be "what do we need to live the way we want to live?".
And, as always, there is never enough of anything to satisfy all the people who "want" it. So the question is: How do we figure out who gets it and who doesn't?
If only there were an efficient mechanism to allocate goods and capital that also generally improves people's standards of living over time.
It's not that I buy things I don't need; the marxist proggies are pissed because I don't submit my shopping list to them first or have the slightest interest in what they think I need.
-20 brands of deodorant
Almost everything I own can be argued as something I don't "need". That's the scary part of defining 'need'.
Anti-capitalists are almost always anti-humanists. Yet they're often popularly credited with being both "populist" and/or secular humanists.
I'm not too sure about people buying what they don't need, but I can assure you the woman in that picture needs to buy a few double-cheeseburgers.
Where's HM with a youtube link when you need him ?
Why Do People Buy Things They Don't "Need"?
Because fuck you. That's why.
The cost of the program is $2,700 for one course and covers accommodations, which is a pretty great deal. The deadline to register if February 1, so if you're interested, check the materials out soon.
Great deal, my ass. Nick forgot to mention the accommodations are in the snake-infested Kavala refugee camp, where they'll not only enjoy Postrel's symposium, they'll also get to sample the rich culture of Syrian migrants the rest of Europe are so thoroughly enjoying.
Bunking with Syrian migrants! Excellent!
I think this trip should be *mandatory* for all Reason writers renew their commitment to Open Borders Uber Alles!
Many of the things I have and don't need make me happy. How could anyone even raise such a stupid objection.
Why would I go see Virginia Postrel when I can hear the same "contrarian feminist" backlash from Camille Paglia-- who, honestly, just does it better. More kink, less gauze.
The people at Williams and Sonoma are not gonna like this, they're not going to like this one bit.
+1 Sous Vide machine
is this one of those classes where you pay the fee, and then they tell you that was the lesson? would seem somewhat appropriate in this case if that were so.
"Next we're offering a class on gullibility."
Cause I fucking want it.
"OK, let's see the results of your final exams. John, I see you got a punching bag shaped like a progressive, but that's actually something you *do* need, so I'm giving you a D. Now, Sugarfree, you bought copies of your favorite *hentai* printed on gold leaf, which you certainly don't need, nice work. HM, you hired Sir Mixalot and several ladies to give a performance at the Acropolis - it's just as well the Greek government is broke, they would probably have broken up that concert if their cops weren't all on strike for back pay. So, good. Now all of you, here are your diplomas, and your restraining orders so I won't have to be within a mile of any of you ever again."
It's a good thing Crusty didn't attend...
Alt-Text: "The power of pussy."
I don't know about the rest of you, but I buy thirty kinds of deodorant just to piss off Bernie Sanders.
-jcr
I suspect that buying even one brand of deodorant pisses off Bernie Sanders. Deodorant is so bourgeoisie. The New Soviet Man won't need deodorant anyway; he won't smell. His shit won't even stink.
Anything more than the bare minimum necessary to cover food, water and shelter are things you do not really need. But how many people are going to enjoy the life of an ascetic? Unless a person is living a life of dissipation or the critic is a monk, what someone does not need is a matter of personal taste.
Vaginas
::lights John signal::
Had a friend who said being with a skinny girl is like hugging a bag of antlers.
I literally can't with that price.
Closer to the bone, the sweeter the meat...or so I have heard.
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
Or so I have read.