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Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump meet in Las Vegas for their final scheduled match-up

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[SugarFree]

Be quiet, plebes!

[Azathoth!!]

don't say a word about those pesky videos that show massive Democrat corruption, vote fraud, and violence

[SparktheRevolt]

Wait, how is this different than just being on twitter?

[Col. Chestbridge]

You get the benefit of the H&R commenters' sparkling wit.

[Col. Chestbridge]

Pre-stream advertisement: Man in the High Castle. Coincidence? Or timely warning?

[Intraveneous Woodchipper]

Season 1 started off being interesting but I haven't gotten all the way through yet.

How does the Reason commentariat rate the show?

[Cdr Lytton]

I liked it a lot, although it's been a while since I read the book so my memory of any plot details was pretty much gone.

[Crusty Juggler]

I enjoyed it. It is far from perfect, but it was enjoyable. The head Nazi guy was awesome, and the lead actress is one of the loves of my life.

[John Titor]

Meh, it's got problems but it's fine. The head Nazi guy is awesome, and the almost cartoony depiction of Nazi/Japanese America is pretty great. They changed some stuff from the book which actually improved it (alternative universe film reels instead of a book) and some stuff that didn't (the main female lead in the book made her decisions by the I-Ching, so some of her weirder moves make sense because they're 'random', in the show she makes them herself and comes off as kind of flighty and stupid).

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I highly recommend it.

[Raven Nation]

Very good to excellent. Looking forward to S2.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

We ask that all HnR commenters remain silent during the debate.

[SugarFree]

SHOW US YOUR PUSSY!

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

So's you can write your infamous fanfiction about it? I think not.

[SugarFree]

Is it worse than my imagination?

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

Cthulu itself is less scary than your imagination, sir.

[Hyperion]

We'll grab it!

[Rational Exuberance]

I think in HRC's case, that is a vagina dentata.

[Col. Chestbridge]

*retrieves vuvuzela*

[SugarFree]

Hmm... white pantsuit, like a lesbian bride.

[That's A Bingo!]

Mao suit.

[SugarFree]

Mao would have never stood for buttons off center.

[LibertarianJRT]

beat me to it

[Hyperion]

Grandmao Pantsuit to rulez!

[Hyperion]

Won't be good if the depends don't hold up.

[SugarFree]

I would imagine the whole thing is rubber-lined and sealed at the cankles. She could probably piss a gallon before she starts sloshing loudly enough for the mics to pick up.

[Hyperion]

I lol'd

[Chipper Morning Wood]

If you watch her face closely enough, you can tell when she is peeing.

[John]

She is to lesbians what the white buffalo is to the Sioux. The white pants suit has deep religious meaning.

[SugarFree]

Lizzie Warren is so excited right now.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

"What kind of rights Americans are going to have" - ooh, more rights headed our way!

[Ken Shultz]

I'm gonna keep an open mind, here, but for the good of the country, Hillary Clinton should eat shit.

Just right on camera, Hillary. Take it out of your pocketbook and eat shit.

[Hyperion]

Normally that wouldn't be funny, but I larfed.

[Rhywun]

"Dark money"? RAAA-

[Ted S.]

Sung to the tune of Cher's "Dark Lady".

[That's A Bingo!]

The purpose of the Supreme Court is to uphold the Constitution, you dumb broad. And dark money is what has financed your campaign.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Anyone who opens up with 'you know' should be disqualified!

[Rhywun]

She's so folksy.

[Ken Shultz]

You know what would be real folksy?

. . . is if Hillary would take some shit out of her pocketbook and eat it.

Eat shit, Hillary! You know you want to.

[Rational Exuberance]

It took 17 focus groups and 122 hours of analysis to come up with those folksy lines.

[Ken Shultz]

She's against Citizens United.

Why should corporations be free to spend money on campaigns. Why can't candidates get their money from foreign countries instead?

[Rufus The Monocled]

DO YOUR JOB ACCORDING TO WHAT WE SAY!

[Ken Shultz]

I say Hillary should eat shit.

On. Camera.

[Col. Chestbridge]

I am genuinely unsure how that would affect her chances of winning the election. It could go either way.

[Jimbo]

Ken is a single issue voter.

[That's A Bingo!]

Someone took away Trump's cocaine. He sounds dejected.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

"I support the Second Amendment" - see, rest easy, everybody.

[Rational Exuberance]

If you like your Second Amendment, you can keep your Second Amendment.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hillary is going full cunt.

[Hyperion]

Never go full cunt.

[Rhywun]

So she fake-supports the RTKBA in upstate NY but not downstate?

[LibertarianJRT]

Drink! Hillaryvsaid she supports 2A. drink again!

[Hyperion]

Bullshit, but I drank.

[Brochettaward]

I don't recall the Supreme Court being a representative body in the Constitution. Must have missed that part.

People with guns aren't allowed to threaten to kill me or my family. This bitch still won't answer if she views the second amendment as an individual right.

[Dallas H.]

Hey! The 2nd amendment is about protecting toddlers. Everyone knows that.

[LibertarianJRT]

This just in Heller was about protecting toddlers from guns.

[Rhywun]

Won't somebody think of the toddlers!?!?!?!

[LibertarianJRT]

She is ridiculous. Dozens of toddlers my ass.

[OBJ FRANKELSON]

Your ass and dozen of toddlers... That sounds more like OMWCs schtick.

[BakedPenguin]

"This is a prostate, kids! Prrrrrrostate"

[Brochettaward]

THERE'S A TODDLER GENOCIDE PEOPLE!

[Hyperion]

By clown apocalypse?

[Brochettaward]

By guns. Even clowns with guns.

[Hyperion]

Clowns with guns, the scariest new scary epidemic that's sweeping the nation, ever.

[BakedPenguin]

Clowns with guns on meth - brought in by Mexicans!

[Rufus The Monocled]

DOZENS!

[That's A Bingo!]

Dozens only? Dozens of toddlers injure themselves with plastic bags.

[Hyperion]

And toasters, and tricycles and stuff, I mean pretty much everything.

[Ted S.]

I think the death figures for under-5s killed by gunshot is in the two-digit range annually.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Yes, it's in conflict. YES IT IS.

[That's A Bingo!]

Hillary is really sounding angry there.

[Intraveneous Woodchipper]

Shrill, perhaps?

Your misogynist dog whistle has no validity here, good sir!

[Rational Exuberance]

Misogyny, the Musical

[Col. Chestbridge]

Won't someone think of the toddlers!

[Troy muy grande boner]

We need to outlaw toddlers. That will stop the scourge of Toddler killings.

[LibertarianJRT]

Chicago reference.

[GILMORE?]

I can't do this.

Someone do me a favor and collect a few of the.... anything witty that Reason writers might tweet.

by witty i mean.... not shikha. If Robby makes a joke about sexual assault, that might be notable.

god speed. (goes back to drinking and playing w/ Ableton)

[OBJ FRANKELSON]

Don't mind me, I'll just be over here watching my Cubs flush a great season down the commode.

[OBJ FRANKELSON]

So my cynicism was ill founded.But then I am the a Cubs fan, the most pessimistic optimists you shall ever find.

[Brochettaward]

Now we move onto...abortion.

[Hyperion]

I'm glad some of you brave souls are watching this. I just can't. I have to keep what little sanity I have left, job requires it.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Wallace is professional so far.

I hope Anderson and the other three idiots Holt, Crowley and Raddatz are watching.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

He's being tough - fairly - to both candidates. Already the best moderator IMO.

[Brochettaward]

It's a very low bar. He's fair and not going for gottcha questions. But he's dry and not going to give Trump many chances for kill shots and, frankly, it's the only reason to watch this shit. Trump can't coherently articulate most of his positions and HIllary just lies her ass off with slightly more sophisticated bullshit.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Yes, it's favoring Hillary's bull shit style.

[LibertarianJRT]

Abortion. Over turn Roe? Yes to the states.

[Troy muy grande boner]

Fuck. Roe V. Wade

[SugarFree]

"Return to me, evangelical voters," Donald whispered.

[Rhywun]

Right?!

[SugarFree]

Utah is just the tip of the spear. They aren't going to vote for Hillary, but they might stay home in disgust.

Donald is doing very well so far, but he's shoring up his base rather than bring in undecideds.

[Rufus The Monocled]

'I have my own gut wrenching story...when I tried to abort Chelsea but that bastard stopped me...don't let this happen to YOU!'

[LibertarianJRT]

Hitlery: so many states are... Defunding planned parenthood... I will defend it.

[Ken Shultz]

I think Hillary should make the brave and intimate choice to eat shit.

Just reach into her pocketbook, pull out some shit, and eat it--just like she wants to with that shit eating grin.

[Hyperion]

She can't eat any more shit, she's already full of it.

[Hyperion]

One more bite and she explodes, a shitplosion!

[Rhywun]

One thin waffer!

[Rufus The Monocled]

Dunno about you but anything that has the word 'planned' in its title should be held with suspicion.

[Crusty Juggler]

Don't we have instant replay to get the calls right?

[AlmightyJB]

That pants suit is racist

[Ken Shultz]

It's sexual appropriation.

[Ken Shultz]

She wants to regulate abortion?

She's gotta be losing fans here.

[Hyperion]

And supports the 2nd amendment? WTF? The dementia is setting in, progs outraged.

[DOOMco]

how much did PP spend on campaign ads?
How much do they get?

[Rufus The Monocled]

I offered to eat their babies.

[Ken Shultz]

She is a baby-eater!

A baby-eater who also eats shit.

[LibertarianJRT]

Hildog: i have met women who have horrible pregnancies.

[AlmightyJB]

Never too late to abort. Just don't use a gun.

[Robert]

Bloggers, it's one thing to assert in a vacuum that Trump's gonna trash the SC...but when he's actually asked direct questions about court nominations, he's giving the "correct" answers, & youse guys are just going according to feelz that he means the opposite.

[Hyperion]

His foreign policy sounds a lot better than Hillary's also. But saying that means you're a Trumpet.

[DOOMco]

why am i listening to this

[AlmightyJB]

I'm not watching. Just reading comments. You guys should just start making shit up.

[DOOMco]

AND THE DON COMES BACK IN WITH A FOLDING CHAIR!

[Hyperion]

And now Hilldawg is chewing on his leg!

[Hyperion]

Trumps hair piece just flew off and Hillary's diaper exploded.

[That's A Bingo!]

I can't believe that! Hillary just reached into her Depends, took out a handful of shit, and ate it right on stage!

[AlmightyJB]

That wouldn't surprise me

[Intraveneous Woodchipper]

Anybody with a functioning cerebral cortex should be slaying Hilldabeast right now. Trump is 100% lozard brain, sadly.

[Dallas H.]

Yeah. It's sad how many easy opportunities he misses to crush idiotic things she says and logical fallacies.

[LibertarianJRT]

Ok... So Hillary is defending late term abortions and then saying Trump is obfuscating the issue by describing the procedure.

[Rufus The Monocled]

The government has no business....she should expand the list.

[SugarFree]

Hillary finds some small area of life that the government should stay out of.

[DOOMco]

No loosies for sale though.

[AlmightyJB]

Wiping away kitten tears?

[Brochettaward]

Through three debates, Wallace is the first one to bring up immigration. Though he claims there's a large gap...well, depends on which version of Hillary we listen to or when.

[That's A Bingo!]

Trump is excited by immigration. Lets see if he can hit this out of the park.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Has there been a candidate this late in the game so willing to be pro-life like Trump?

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

Trump needs an antagonistic moderator, frankly.

[Troy muy grande boner]

Wow the cunt didn't deny that killing a baby a couple days prior to its due date is reprehensible.

[Hyperion]

She would probably eat it while still alive.

[Rational Exuberance]

Would? What do you think is the "drug" that's allowing her to appear at campaign events?

[Ceci n'est pas un woodchipper]

I don't have enough liquor to make this palatable.

[Hyperion]

I'd get alcohol poisoning if I watched that shit. Not good, I have to work tomorrow.

[Rufus The Monocled]

New Hampshire should be annexed by Canada.

/ducks.

[waffles]

Just try it. Live free or die motherfucker.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Enjoy your illegal Massachusetts immigrants.

[John Titor]

Look, if you're really going to pick a fight, New Hampshire is probably one of the few states we could actually win a war against. You've got like, what, a couple thousand national guardsmen and a closed air force base?

[Col. Chestbridge]

You'd have better success annexing Minnesota.

[DOOMco]

what is this, 9.5%?
*slams beer*

[LibertarianJRT]

Trump: bad hombres

[waffles]

This debate is too tightly moderated. I was promised mudslinging!

[That's A Bingo!]

It's Vegas, for christ sake.

[Rhywun]

"Stop the drugs!"

Oh brother.

"I have another sob story in the audience..."

OH BROTHER.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hillary is pulling out all the anecdotes.

Anecdote Hillary!

[0x90]

Anecdotallary?

[That's A Bingo!]

"As he was talking about this, I was choosing which anecdote to recite..."

[LibertarianJRT]

11 million with 4million children

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

Hillary: The small-government candidate.

[DOOMco]

I like this style more.

[Troy muy grande boner]

WE would have to round up people and put them on buses to get rid of illegals..... so when do we start?

[Dallas H.]

Maybe just drop them off after they finish voting? Two birds with one bus.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

The first, second, third, or fourth vote?

[Rufus The Monocled]

NATION OF COMPREHENSION AND COMMON SENSE.

[LibertarianJRT]

Trump: Very nice man.

[Crusty Juggler]

I'm calling it: Jason Heyward is a bust.

[waffles]

WAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL

[Rhywun]

Bullshit. You can't build anything in NYC with "undocumented labor".

[That's A Bingo!]

Mafia won't allow it.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Inspectors are all over construction sites.

[Crusty Juggler]

My take from glancing at the Tweets: Dalmia doesn't like Trump.

[Hyperion]

Shocking revelation.

[Brochettaward]

Is Chris Wallace going to have to choke a bitch?

[DOOMco]

reform is a nice blank word to put your dreams into

[DOOMco]

HOLYSHITTTTTTT

[That's A Bingo!]

Trump, don't thank the moderator for doing your job for you.

[Brochettaward]

Hillary claiming that Hillary only meant open borders...for energy...

No, that isn't what you said, you lying piece of shit.

[DOOMco]

we trade more energy with our neighbors than others though!

[That's A Bingo!]

Russia! Drink.

[DOOMco]

Drink drink drink drink

[Rufus The Monocled]

That's a pretty big assertion about Russia. Proof?

[grrizzly]

The bitch is doing Russia bashing.

[Troy muy grande boner]

So she admits the wikileaks document is true.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

Uh, Hill, the AMERICAN government has conducted espionage against American citizens.

Cunt.

[John]

They have also droned striked American citizens. But that was the chocolate Jesus so it was okay.

[Rational Exuberance]

Hillary had to approve it, didn't she?

[DOOMco]

right??

[That's A Bingo!]

Okay, that was nice, Trump. Call her out on her pivot.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Nailed it! PIVOT!

[waffles]

Canadians are interfering in the American political process!

[Rufus The Monocled]

If we were YOU'D KNOW IT!

[Crusty Juggler]

No we wouldn't.

[John Titor]

We already tried that with our Manchurian Candidate Cruz, didn't work.

[Dallas H.]

Nice conspiracy theories, Hillary. Got any proof at all?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Why is she laughing?

[Hyperion]

The drugs?

[Dallas H.]

That face is horrifying. It's the craziest, creepiest face.

[Rational Exuberance]

Somebody accidentally pushed the wrong button on her remote control.

[Tim from Philly]

This actually made me laugh. What is wrong with me?

[DOOMco]

It's the ruskies fault.

[waffles]

Wallace is holding us on a tight leash, sheesh.

[Crusty Juggler]

Ciaramella's hair/beard combo is (was?) positively Logginsian.

[Rufus The Monocled]

What the fuck is she saying?

[waffles]

She's saying Trump is Putin sockpuppeting as Tulpa.

[Rhywun]

I think she's in the wrong decade. Or century.

[SugarFree]

You're the puppet.

[Rufus The Monocled]

You're a towel.

[Rhywun]

I wish I was high instead of buzzed merging on drunk.

[SugarFree]

This what is getting me through.

[That's A Bingo!]

CNN's graphic says "Topic: Immigration" while Hillary goes off on Russia.

[Dallas H.]

She is unhinged and crazy.

[waffles]

I find this Russian spy angle unconvincing but I'm biased because I'm glad wikileaks are getting play.

[Hyperion]

It's pure fucking bullshit is what it is.

[Jerryskids]

Hillary is desperately floundering with the "Putin hacked muh e-mails!" shit.

[Tom Bombadil]

So, Russia hacks. Is she admitting that her private server arrangement at State was a security breach?

[Ken Shultz]

Hillary is saying the election is fixed!!!

LOL

The FBI investigation of Hillary was fixed.

[Hyperion]

Why isn't she 50 points ahead?

[Crusty Juggler]

More racist puppet: Donald Trump or Franklin Delano Bluth?

[Brochettaward]

Chris Wallace IS going to have a choke a bitch.

[Rhywun]

One can dream.

[VG Zaytsev]

Are the 17 intelligence agencies cited by Hillary the same ones that said that there were wmd in Iraq?

[DOOMco]

SHH!! that was bush!

[DOOMco]

damn donald, back with the warheads.

[Brochettaward]

Hillary's best response to getting her ass kicked on Putin/Russia...Trump can't be trusted with his finger on the nuclear button. Can't deny she's playing brinksmanship (I'm being generous there - truthfully she's just incompetent), though.

[John]

She is up there accusing the Russians of acts of war without any proof. But Trump is the dangerous one.

[Ted S.]

The Democrat in the local US House race is running an ad decrying that the Republicans claim she wants to start a nuclear war. (I've never seen the ad she's complaining about, which makes me wonder since the ad breaks in the local news are nothing but campaign ads.)

[Rufus The Monocled]

POLITIFACT AND FACTCHECK HELP US!

[Hyperion]

Like Pravda helped the Russians?

[Rhywun]

You're our only hope, beside this bottle of vodka next to me!

[Rufus The Monocled]

She is lying. He didn't say he wants to break up alliances.

[Brochettaward]

BIGGEST JOBS PROGRAM SINCE WW2!

Hillary is really going to double-down on her businesses not creating jobs remarks.

[waffles]

Democratic strongholds DECIMATE the middle class. Trump may suck, but I hate this woman. Ugh.

[Crusty Juggler]

Suderman is just tweeting puppet photos. Lovely.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Why come no spend all time criticizing Hillary and talking about project veritas!

[Rufus The Monocled]

The government has no business, huh, Hillary you fucken...I can't find the words.

Trump should rip her to shreds here.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Just what America needs: More post-graduate students with useless degrees.

[Hyperion]

Gotta produce more infantilized snowflakes.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Ladies and gentlemen Good evening. =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMlKmELIhgY

[Rhywun]

If she utters the words "Scrooge McDuck", I'll vote for her.

[waffles]

Have to say, this is the best I've seen Trump! Could it possibly last another hour?

When you've lost Shikha...damn.

[Dallas H.]

Holy shit. I've muted her so didn't that. Gotta get my jaw off the floor.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

SHIKHA TRIGGERS ME GODDAMMIT! *punches wall*

[Hyperion]

That won't last an hour (losing Dalmia).

[DOOMco]

Income tax should be 0.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

I wish Donald would have fired back on equal pay for women: "Oh, like with your campaign staff?"

[Troy muy grande boner]

Re her economic plan...What the fuck is she talking about?

[That's A Bingo!]

It was a Madlib-style recital of poll-tested phrases.

[Brochettaward]

A series of cliched bullshit about sums it up. Trump's economic answer is far more substantive. What does that say about her?

[DOOMco]

"Oh this is a jobs program! why not give them spoons to dig with?"

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

I'm glad I have refrained from watching this one. I don't need my blood up and I don't need to start early on watching Hillary lecture me for the next 4+ years.

[DOOMco]

how'd college tuition rates do when we started subsidizing and backing them?

[Rufus The Monocled]

They sure as hell didn't come to Canada.

[LibertarianJRT]

Trump, suddenly pro free trade.

[Hyperion]

He did say several times before that he was only against bad trade deals with China. But when he starts talking about bringing lost mfg jobs back to the USA, I hope he knows that is actually retarded rhetoric. Those jobs are never coming back. They'll be automated.

[Troy muy grande boner]

The Obama Regime....lol...

[waffles]

It's staggering how much of a difference the moderation makes in these debates.

[Crusty Juggler]

OMG ENB's white pussy!

[Hyperion]

Grab it!

[Brochettaward]

Does it match her hair?

[Rufus The Monocled]

WTF? HOW CAN YOU NOT RAISE TAXES OR ADD TO THE DEBT IF YOU'RE PROMISING $15, FREE EDUCATION, OBAMACARE AND UNIVERSAL PRE-K.

Jesus fucking Christ.

[Rufus The Monocled]

$15min/hr

[waffles]

Dude, we just tax the unborn. Easy peasy.

[Rhywun]

Uh... that would appear to conflict with her position on RvW.

[DOOMco]

maths are hard!

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

MAGIC RUFUS !!!!

DON"T YOU BELEIVE IN MAGIC !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ifTS5NEsI

[american socialist]

She said she won't raise taxes on people making 250k or less. You know, most of us.

[Dallas H.]

Just like Obama promised and broke in less than 2 years.

[Rufus The Monocled]

She absolutely will.

There's not enough people earning over 250k to pay for all the entitlements and free crap she promised.

[kbolino]

To wit:

There are about 125 million households in this country.

Only about 3% of them make at least $250,000. The mean income for households in this group is about $400,000. A 5% tax increase for income over $250,000 would net $28 billion.

About 21.5% of households make between $100,000 and $250,000. The mean income for households in this group is about $146,000. A 5% tax increase for income between $100,000 and $250,000 would net $62 billion.

That leaves about 75.5% of households making less than $100,000. Their mean income is about $42,500. A 5% tax increase for income under $100,000 would net $197 billion.

Now you know why taxes in Europe are high for everyone.

[kbolino]

So, in other words, she lied and/or is innumerate.

[Brian]

Speak for yourself, poverty man.

[John Titor]

That's because she won't actually fulfill half/all of those promises. She's bullshitting for votes, when she's actually in power she'll just blame obstructionist Republicans and what-not.

[LibertarianJRT]

Hillary promises to not add anything to the debt and claims credit for GOP contract with America.

[XM]

Are the Cubs going to win the WS this year, geez. How many weeks of "Sports team uplifts town besieged by crime, poverty and corruption" headlines would we have to endure?

Also, no ketchup on hot dogs, are you kidding me Chicago. Indians in 4, please.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Tell that to my daughter...about the ketchup.

[Sevo]

Are the Cubs going to win the WS this year, geez. How many weeks of "Sports team uplifts town besieged by crime, poverty and corruption" headlines would we have to endure?"

Thank goodness the Tigers aren't playing.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Correct followed by smirk.

Cla-ssic.

[Crusty Juggler]

Nick Gillespie
?
@nickgillespie

WTF is wrong with ppl? If you make $125K a year, pay for your kids goddamn state college already

[Rufus The Monocled]

It's a combo!

BLAME BUSH TIME!

[LibertarianJRT]

BLAME BUSH

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

TERRIBLE recession.

[waffles]

Hillary has that killer clown smile down pat.

[SugarFree]

Hmm... So we can't judge Hillary for Bill's whoring, but she can claim Bill's economic successes?

[Col. Chestbridge]

I see you're catching on!

[Sevo]

And Bill's "experience"~!

[DOOMco]

exactly!

[Troy muy grande boner]

Finally. a moderator that isn't sucking Clinton's cock.

[Crusty Juggler]

Would rub on cheek.

[LibertarianJRT]

DRINK!

[geo1113]

Trump...WTF...why isn't he saying the USA has the highest corporate tax rates in the world!!!

[Hyperion]

He doesn't know.

[geo1113]

He does know. I have heard him make that statement.

[Hyperion]

He forgot.

[Rhywun]

He did say something about "massively cutting" them.

[geo1113]

He was not as clear as I was and he has been that clear before.

[american socialist]

I'm stuck at work so I can't watch. Has Clinton collapsed from her Parkinson's Disease that all of the right-wing blogs have been concern trolling about? Fingers crossed.

[That's A Bingo!]

She started to eat shit on stage. Not sure if that is Parkinson's though. She just might like it.

[SimonD]

Someone told her that the shit-eating demographic was undecided and could provide the winning margin in Ohio.

[Crusty Juggler]

I'm stuck at work so I can't watch.

They work you hard on the collective, eh?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Which starvation camp do you work at?

[SugarFree]

He makes Soviet-grade toilet paper. He does what he can, but he's there all alone. And he just keeps shitting.

[Sevo]

Picking cherries is tough work; shame they don't pay you enough to afford a mortgage.

[LibertarianJRT]

Chy-Na

[Rhywun]

RIP

[Aloysious]

If this debate shit is a thing tonight, I'm listening to Disturbed - Down With The Sickness (Explicit) (Official Music Video)

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Yeah . =)

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

I vote BITCH FIGHT 2016 !!!

=D

[waffles]

Obamacare straight up fucks young middle class college educated types. You're either rich enough not to care or poor enough for medicaid, otherwise the law is pure "go fuck yourself".

[Hyperion]

^this^

[Sevo]

"Obamacare straight up fucks young middle class college educated types."

O-care is a rousing success among those who are stupid enough to believe there's a free lunch hiding someplace and the politicos are here to tell 'em where.

[DOOMco]

ding ding ding!

[Rhywun]

That is the progressive playbook.

[LibertarianJRT]

The report was so bad... Relatively speaking.., Chy-Na... So many friends that cry.

[Rufus The Monocled]

There's a recession looming.

But they inherited it so I guess they didn't make it worse, right?

/AmSoc Tony logic

[Col. Chestbridge]

BOOOOOOOOSH

[LibertarianJRT]

Look at the smile on her smug face.

[waffles]

The clown crisis continues unabated.

[Rufus The Monocled]

She's dressed like Dr. Evil.

[Rhywun]

LOL she is

[Hyperion]

They pumped enough happy juice up her arse to keep her standing for 90 minutes. She probably turns into a werewolf after that.

[SugarFree]

That's not fair. Only a few parts of her turn wolf.

[SugarFree]

GRAB HER BY THE WOLF PUSSY!

[This Machine]

+1 mother of Rome

[Mazakon]

Clinton: "I want us to have the biggest jobs program since World War II."

What could be a better job program than after the last World War than starting another one!

[Hyperion]

And she's going to start enough wars to make it happen!

[LibertarianJRT]

Chy-Na... Illegal dumping of Steel and aluminum... Trade prosecuter.

[Rufus The Monocled]

PROSECUTOR! PROSECUTE IT ALL!

[LibertarianJRT]

Yes! Smack her face!

[Rufus The Monocled]

He was borrowing $14 million from his father? How is this a bad thing?

[Sevo]

He wasn't crooked enough to take brides while in office.

[Crusty Juggler]

Do you know who took a bride while in office?

[Sevo]

And "Hitler" IS the right answer.

[DOOMco]

Henry VIII?

[Raven Nation]

Typo of the night!

[Sevo]

"My edit tab, or my life!"

[LibertarianJRT]

Hillary.... Why didnt you have a trade prosecuter when you were sec state? Answer the question.

[Dallas H.]

Hey! I created isis. Smile like a loon time!

[LibertarianJRT]

Look at her ridiculous smug grin.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Because they were given money?

[Crusty Juggler]

This debate has changed my mind: I'm voting for Hillary. I'm with Her.

[Hyperion]

Was it the shit eating?

[LibertarianJRT]

Fitness to be President... If we are talking fitness its totally Gay-Jay. No one is fitter than the Big J.

[That's A Bingo!]

We should hold a caber toss to determine who has the fitness to be president.

[Sevo]

Only if the hag is, oh, 20 yards from the tossing line.

[LibertarianJRT]

Trump: I did not say that.

[Rufus The Monocled]

This coming from a woman who enabled a serial sexual assaulter.

This is astonishing.

[LibertarianJRT]

Hillary: America is great because America is good.

[Dallas H.]

"He goes to denying responsibility."

Weird. Where have I seen that before?

[LibertarianJRT]

Where is your stupid grin now Hitlery?

[Troy muy grande boner]

I think the meds are wearing off

[Rhywun]

"Which motherfucker put downers in my uppers?"

/HRC

[Nativist, Racist & Xenophobe]

After the first two, I couldn't bear to watch this one. Who's winning?

[Raven Nation]

Not us (my wife insisted we watch this debate).

[Crusty Juggler]

Thankfully there are divorce lawyers amongst the commentariat.

[John]

It would seem Trump. Hillary sounds really bad. Incoherent.

[SugarFree]

She's mostly just reeling off talking points. Tony could be doing her job.

[John]

Actually, I don't think that is fair to Tony. Tony would at least stick to the talking points and read them in some kind of coherent order.

[SugarFree]

True.

[Raven Nation]

She's been told to look presidential - the content doesn't matter.

[Nativist, Racist & Xenophobe]

Is she coming off like a cunty trial lawyer with an obviously guilty client?

[SugarFree]

She couldn't get away with being this snide in court.

[Sevo]

Hitler.
The answer is always "Hitler".

[kilroy]

Distillers.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

We the American people are losing.

[Brochettaward]

Whenever Hillary is asked about something uncomfortable, she blames Russia and a vast right wing conspiracy.

[Dallas H.]

^THIS^

[DOOMco]

i hope people are seeing through that horrible fallacy of an answer.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

I will not talk about Bob Creamer, or Foval.

I will instead Talk about pussy grabbing.

[Ken Shultz]

He probably shouldn't have gone with "Nobody" had more respect for women than he does.

Somebody else might.

Maybe.

Somebody.

If he didn't respect women, he wouldn't have bought himself the Miss America pageant and a modeling agency!

[This Machine]

Internet is out in my area, posting from my phone. Did Trump mention the O'Keefe vids?

[Dallas H.]

Yes, several times. Sepecifically Chicago.

[This Machine]

Good deal. Anything that gets more people to watch 'em.

[Jerryskids]

O'Keefe 17, Cal 14 at the end of the third quarter.

[Sevo]

Golf clap.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Not the actual vids, but some talking points about them.

[SugarFree]

Yes. And she spluttered a barely coherent lie.

She got asked a direct question about the Clinton Foundation and she is spinning like a feeble top.

[Rhywun]

Interesting that she didn't deny the violent plants at his rallies.

[Hyperion]

She knows it doesn't matter to her voters. If they had any morals, ethics, or principles, they would never consider voting for her in the first place.

[Calidissident]

Please debate real issues. Thank you.

[Ken Shultz]

They have few differences on the issues.

This election isn't about issues.

Why would they debate issues?

[Hyperion]

Well, then you either get Melania or Willy for first lady, take your pick which you want to see constantly for the next 4 years.

[Sevo]

That's bell's been rung.

[Rhywun]

Like tax returns?

[Calidissident]

No we've heard enough of that

[LibertarianJRT]

Hillary: look over here, nothing to see. Nothing to see.

[Rufus The Monocled]

It just makes no sense this corrupted woman is in the lead in the polls. Something is not adding up.

[Sevo]

Look at the alternative; SIV loves Trump. That should tell you something.
BTW, I had the hag at 310EC votes. Trumps been busy with that shovel, digging deeper; I'm upping it to 320.

[Rufus The Monocled]

It's in the bag for Hillary you reckon?

[Sevo]

I don't see how it could be otherwise.
The chattering class does not like uncertainty; the hag is reliably corrupt. She stays bought.
As unlikely as it seems, Trump might wake up one morning and decide to be ethical and honest for a day or two and blow all sorts of 'arrangements' before returning to trend.

[Crusty Juggler]

And Chris Wallace washes his clothes like a normie, unlike Anderson Cooper.

[Hyperion]

Anderson Cooper is so serious, did you know how serious he is? Just look at him!

[Ken Shultz]

Have you seen Melania's ass?

He respects that ass.

You gotta have respect for an ass like that. It's a world class ass!

[SIV]

In the tweet stream Reason is pulling out all the stops for Hitlery.

GayJay hardest hit.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Did somebody fart?

[SugarFree]

Shut up, Ape Retardist!

[Hyperion]

Did Hillary fall over yet? God, if Hillary falls over before this debate is over, I swear I'll start believing in you. Oh wait, that means Trump will be potus. Let me reconsider this offer...

[Rhywun]

She's looking wobbly.

[Calidissident]

LMAO that's such a lie Hillary. Everything in the national interest? Hahaha

[John]

Did you hear when she pledged to not add a penny to the debt? Watch Politifact give it a "partially true" rating tomorrow.

[Hyperion]

Just like Obamacare. Didn't you just save $3000 a year on your insurance? See!

[Calidissident]

Even if you just measured against the current baseline, that's false. Her spending proposals are $200 billion more than her proposed revenue raises over the next decade.

http://www.crfb.org/papers/add.....als-so-far

[Sevo]

Well, she did make the pledge, so that part's true
/commie-kid

[kbolino]

So she's going to cut over $500 billion in spending the day she takes office?

Impressive.

[Rufus The Monocled]

WRITE THAT CHECK HILLARY!

[LibertarianJRT]

Smug grin is back at the thought of taking money from people who throw gays off cliffs.

[Rational Exuberance]

To be fair, she really would like to throw gays off cliffs herself, but her political strategists tell her that that isn't polling well anymore.

[DOOMco]

trump has thrown some real bombs tonight.

[DOOMco]

no, it doesn't hillary.

[Jerryskids]

Damn, Trump is talking real issues more than Hillary keeps bringing up petty-ass shit.

[Crusty Juggler]

"Little Haiti" was my nickname in college.

[SugarFree]

Because you were frequently battered by hurricanes and ravaged by AIDS?

[Crusty Juggler]

Because I don't believe in condoms or rebar.

[waffles]

Hillary's right! Hait fucking sucks!

[Derpetologist]

OT: The Army football team has lost to the Navy every year since 2002. The most interesting theory I heard to explain this is that the reason is the Army players tend to be lighter because of the Army's stricter weight standards, and so their defensive line is not as solid as the Navy's.

The max Navy enlistment weight for a 5'9" male is 186 for all ages. For the Army, it's 169 for ages 17-20 and 171 for ages 21-27.

So, at first glance, the theory looks plausible.

[Crusty Juggler]

Navy has also had superior coaches and players. Far superior, even.

[Steve G]

Went to AF. Doubtful on the theory: entry weight (if even applicable to recruited cadets vs regular enlistees) and playing weight can be completely different. Sure, they've gotta meet some standards wearing the uniform for 4 years and meet AD standards once commissioned, but trust me they have a lot of latitude. Also, the players ate at separate tables w/ extra food, even during basic. ...but I'm not bitter 26 yrs later.

[Crusty Juggler]

You AF guys wake up at like 7:30, while those West Pointers are up at like 6. They have it rough.

[Steve G]

LOL. Marched to breakfast for 4 yrs at 0700, pretty much the same as Army. And we had a tougher freshman year.

[Derpetologist]

Pffft, luxury!

I've been getting up at 0400 most weekdays for about a year now.

[Steve G]

DLI's got nuthin on BUDS hell week!

[Derpetologist]

Aside from being 64 times longer, you mean?

Seriously though, I read that during Hell Week, the SEAL trainees run 200 miles, which is unbelievable.

[Steve G]

I wouldn't be surprised. Something's gotta keep them awake since they get minutes of sleep if they're lucky.

[Cdr Lytton]

Funny. I heard the same theory back I. The 90's when Army would lose then.

[Cdr Lytton]

Fucking autocorrect. Back in the 90's.

[Crusty Juggler]

Can we fact-check the watchdogs loving the Clinton Foundation?

[DOOMco]

the foundation that was also called "unclassifiable"

[Sevo]

I happened to link the 'watchdog' when the CF was called 'unclassifiable' since 'it didn't match any of their (the watchdog's) business models'. So they couldn't figure out what in hell was going on.
A week later, I checked and now it was highly rated, and a search showed that the CF was a 'partner' with the watchdog.
Did you read that the US gov't (not the Clinton campaign, NO, NO!) 'suggested' to Ecuador that Assange be denied access to the 'net 'for a while'?

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Sevo.

Did you read that the US gov't (not the Clinton campaign, NO, NO!) 'suggested' to Ecuador that Assange be denied access to the 'net 'for a while'?

DU is currently mocking this question as a conspiracy theory.

I think DU is full of shit.

[Brochettaward]

Hillary's corruption is brought up? Bring up tax returns and the nonsensical claim that 90% of Foundation money goes to actual charity. Charity like galas and conferences.

[LibertarianJRT]

Charity is Bills girlfriend.

[LibertarianJRT]

Trump: we fought in Palm Beach to put up the American flag.

[Rhywun]

Yeah I don't know WTF that was.

[SugarFree]

http://conservativepost.com/ci.....does-this/

[Rhywun]

Ah. He could have explained that. Better?

[SugarFree]

I hadn't heard about it either.

[Gadfly]

Ah. He could have explained that. Better?

This could be said about nearly everything he says.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

I hate to say this, but Trump beat out Vermin Supreme as the ultimate "Fuck You" silly protest vote.
And Vermin Supreme is my Home Boy.

[waffles]

Right on, I'm still deciding. I am currently writing a voter's guide to the CA propositions based off of which position is a "fuck you" to the powers that be.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Preach it Waffles. =D

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

SIV I apologize for every mean thing I have ever said about you.
I am pulling the Trump lever.
Hey one of these assholes is going to win.
It's going to be bad.
A vote for Trump is the ultimate "Fuck You" vote against Hillary, and this corrupt two party system.
Sorry LP, and Reason, but you had your chance to endorse Rand Paul.

[SIV]

Most commenters opt for a concise " SIV is right"

Time travel through the archives back to the dark days 0f 2006-2008. The comments were dominated by TEAM BLUE progressives. Now look at H&R today, that's in large part thanks to my good work. You're welcome

[Crusty Juggler]

The SIVfluence.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Honestly.
I am going to thank Progressives for being absolute smug twats.
Though. Chicks in their underwear is pretty cool. =D

[Sevo]

If that's what you wish to vote for, help yourself. SIV can use company in the 'stupid' room over there.

[Sevo]

"Most commenters opt for a concise " SIV is right""

Others point out that SIV is a liar and an ignoramus.

[Rufus The Monocled]

How is that possible? An illegal pays taxes?

[Hyperion]

On purchases. And some of them, well many, have fake SS numbers, so they actually do pay taxes.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Okay. But not actually filing an income tax, right?

[SIV]

Only for EIC for their kids back in the old country

[Hyperion]

Correct.

[Dallas H.]

I would take just about any of the moderate or better commenters on this board to destroy HRC in this debate.

[Crusty Juggler]

List the "better" commenters.

[John Titor]

Michael Hihn
Domestic Dissident
Real American
Cytotoxic

Am I doing this right?

[Hyperion]

No. You forgot Tony!

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Even Jackass would fuck HRC up. =D

[John Titor]

I was choosing commenters that would 'destroy' Clinton, not lick the shit off her shoes.

[DOOMco]

Hihn would be fun on a debate stage.

[Calidissident]

Honestly I would pay money to watch Hihn debate someone.

[John Titor]

Hihn: *Incoherent rambling about nothing related to the subject*
His opponent: Uh, what in god's name are on you about, old man?
Hihn: BULLY! *cries in corner*

[Crusty Juggler]

(laughing)

[Sevo]

(making funny faces)

[Hyperion]

That's why no one like the people on this board are ever getting any way near a political debate.

[DOOMco]

...Thank you?

[LibertarianJRT]

Hillary: made with chinese still *super toothy grin*

[Crusty Juggler]

Chinese steel don't melt!

[LibertarianJRT]

What is the purposeful of this fucking question?

[DOOMco]

"there was no case"

[geo1113]

WTF,,,Dahmia carts out some 10 year old article!

[Brochettaward]

Nick Tweet:
"Curious @DougHenwood, who are you rooting for more--or perhaps more accurately, rooting against more? "

We know your answer.

[Rufus The Monocled]

This coming from someone who believed in the 'vast right-wing conspiracy' when her husband was acting like a pig or keeps blaming Bush.

Zero credibility.

[DOOMco]

No one remembers that noise!

[commodious plays tuna piano]

"We've been around for 240 years, we've had free and fair elections, and it's time to change that."

[waffles]

Slam.

[Hyperion]

Someone said that?

[commodious plays tuna piano]

I added the third clause.

[Hyperion]

It sort of reminds me of Hillary's 'Yes we can raise taxes on the middle class' blunder.

[John Titor]

Um, free and fair, sure.

[waffles]

Donald is unrepentant. Hillary is a concern troll.

[LibertarianJRT]

Man i cant stand her... 4 years of Hillary is going to be one long liver punching drinkfest.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Obama is the biggest whiner I've ever seen.

[Brochettaward]

The man literally cries when Republicans don't give him what he wants. Cries with actual tears and everything.

[Hyperion]

He just gets all wee-weed up, man. Can't blame a guy for getting wee-weed up.

[american socialist]

ILLEGALS ARE MASSING AT THE BORDER TO VOTE FOR CLINTON!!! AARRGGHH!

[Sevo]

Beat that strawman, asswipe! It's the only trick you got.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

And they are coming to redistribute all of the American wealth that your government has been collectively hoarding you filthy 1% kulak.
Pay your fair share !!!

[That's A Bingo!]

Troops are already in Iraq.

[DOOMco]

Troops are already still in Iraq.

[Raven Nation]

So Trump claims the polls may be rigged and Hillary says we always accept the results.

Umm, Al Gore in 2000. And, LOTS of leftists were alleging the polls were rigged in 2004.

[Dallas H.]

Thanks for saving me the typing.

[DOOMco]

That was like, 14 years ago, and written by white slave owners!
/confused about the jokes

[Rufus The Monocled]

Raven, we all know they don't win or lose graciously.

[SIV]

John Kerry thinks he won Ohio (and the election) in 2004.

[Ken Shultz]

I will never accept Hillary as the legitimate President of the United States.

She accepted money from foreign governments while she was the Secretary of State.

That makes her unlike any other Presidential candidate in history.

It makes her completely unacceptable.

[The Bearded Hobbit]

She passed classified State Dept. messages over an unsecured server. Giving secrets to foreign agents is pretty much the definition of treason.

Get used to Traitor-In-Chief.

Do ya think she's not going to sell influence from the Oval Office? If so, I have this bridge for sale.

... Hobbit

[Sevo]

"She passed classified State Dept. messages over an unsecured server. Giving secrets to foreign agents is pretty much the definition of treason."

*EVERY* country's intel has someone or many assigned to the US SoS or foreign equivalent, and those assigned are not the gamers who just came on board.
Within hours of that server going on-line, there was rejoicing from Pyongyang to Canberra, the long way around. There is not a government considered even somewhat above "3rd-world" status that does not have a complete copy of what was on that server. The only reason Putin hasn't released the data is pure self-interest; he has enough to have an idea of what that hag is going to do when she takes office (to SIV's tears).
She might just as well have printed it out and mailed copies to countries starting with Albania and ending with Zimbabwe.
If they got there postage due, they'd have been returned; why pay for what you already have?

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

I'm with you on this Ken.

[geo1113]

Clinton going full Eric Stratton...I will not stand for someone badmouthing the United States of America.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

First I'm tuning in and seeing this guy Wallace, and he's maybe my favorite person at the moment. Worried about the overhead lights turning those glasses into firestarters.

[Dallas H.]

Definitely the best moderator by far (at this point anyway).

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I can't believe I am actually watching this.

[geo1113]

My son is over tonight and is forcing me to watch!

[Hyperion]

Your son must be a badass.

[geo1113]

I'm 60; he's 24.

[Hyperion]

Put some testosterone in your beer.

[geo1113]

Should have thought of that before. But I can fuck with him. Next time we are out to dinner, I will tell him I forgot my wallet.

[Nativist, Racist & Xenophobe]

Or he's in a hurry to get his hands on geo's estate...

[Hyperion]

Isn't that a cruel and unusual way to off the old man?

[geo1113]

Who you callin' old man!!

And what estate...he can get it from his mother.

[Hyperion]

I'm in my 50s, get off my lawn! Oh, wait, you're supposed to tell me that you old curmudgeon!

[LibertarianJRT]

Intelligence surge...

[Crusty Juggler]

No occupying force, just a half-assed special ops shadow war? Eight more years!

[That's A Bingo!]

I didn't much like Trump's "element of surprise" line last time, but after the government announced they were going to hack Russia, he might actually have a point.

[SugarFree]

Sweet holy monkey fuck, stop sniffing into the mic.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

She keeps saying "we" like she's ever had a blister on her instep let alone her thumb.

[Troy muy grande boner]

her drugs are wearing off.

[Hyperion]

Did she fall over yet? Please, God, I know you're real!

[Rhywun]

She's been tanking for like the last half hour.

[waffles]

Both candidates are for endless war forever but I think Hillary's will be bigger.

[Ken Shultz]

Trump is so right on Iran.

[Ken Shultz]

Hillary: "He was wrong about Iraq too!

. . . um, except I'm not wrong about Iraq".

[Hyperion]

Hillary was wrong on Iraq, she voted for that fucking pile of shit.

[Ken Shultz]

That's her position.

Her position is that Trump was wrong on Iraq just like she was.

And her position is that she was never wrong about Iraq.

And if that doesn't seem consistent to you, then you must be hateful anti-progressive homophobic racist!

[Brochettaward]

Mosul is not on the border of Syria.

[waffles]

I though Hillary voted for the invasion of Iraq and that's why she lost to Obama? I am taking crazy pills.

[Ken Shultz]

Well Trump was wrong, too.

But Hillary wasn't wrong.

That's Hillary's position.

[Hyperion]

She did.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Yeh. Who cares about what Trump said? Even if not true. SHE VOTED FOR IT.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

She was against the war after she voted for it. What difference, at this point, does it make?

[commodious plays tuna piano]

This guy talks like he should have sweat beading on his forehead and palms.

[Ken Shultz]

Did Hillary just say she wants to invade Syria?

[Brochettaward]

Hillary doesn't even know what planet she's on, to be fair.

[Ken Shultz]

To be fair, I heard her say she wanted to invade Syria.

She wants to take back a town in Syria. Isn't that what she said?

[Brochettaward]

I'm only half paying attention. I did hear after we take Mosul, which is apparently on the border with Syria, we can move onto their.

[Ken Shultz]

She said she would move into a town name in Syria.

I'll check the transcript when it becomes available.

[That's A Bingo!]

Open borders. A hemispherical war.

[Ken Shultz]

Well, that should be in the headlines tomorrow.

Hillary wants to invade Syria.

Tell a friend.

[Aloysious]

Michael Malice gets off a zinger.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I'm amazed she's talking like a neo-con.

[That's A Bingo!]

Why? She's been consistent about that.

[Ken Shultz]

But she IS a neocon!

She's always been a necon.

[Hyperion]

Yeah, it's so unlike her.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

She's always been a neocon.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I'm amazed because she pretends she isn't.

[DOOMco]

So her argument is trump wanted to go to war as a civilian, and that is worse than her vote to do so?

[Ken Shultz]

If Trump changed his mind and opposed Iraq, that would still put him head and shoulders above Hillary--who still supports the Iraq War.

[Sevo]

And if Trump had been in office he'd have taken bribes too!

[DOOMco]

how can anyone claim any moral high ground?

[commodious plays tuna piano]

PLEASE MORE CROSSTALK

[LibertarianJRT]

Too bad Bernie didnt have the balls to support Big Johnson.

[Crusty Juggler]

I agree with Bernie Sanders!

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Aleppo! Finally.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

Gary Johnson is scrambling around for his dictionary right now.

[Hyperion]

"Damnit, I tore out that page to roll one when I was out of papers"!

Yes, I know he only eats the stuff.

[kilroy]

Can't take it any more. Going to look for a better candidate at the bottom of this bottle...

[Hyperion]

There's most definitely one there.

[Raven Nation]

What kind of bottle? We're working on Powers Irish Whiskey?

[Crusty Juggler]

Chris Wallace's chuckle. Ha.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

OH MY GOD WALLACE IS ON TEAM CLINTON

[LibertarianJRT]

Trump sounds like he is ready Garys crib notes.

[Brochettaward]

When Trump made his comment on Aleppo, he was clearly saying that the city was lost. And it is. There's no serious question there militarily. And why doesn't anyone seem to ask Obama what the hell is he going to do about Aleppo?

I'm also confused because the NYT's tells me Aleppo is the capital of ISIS, and NBC tells me that Assad and Putin aren't killing ISIS.

[VG Zaytsev]

Trumps right about Mosul.

The analogy that he should have made is that focusing on Mosul today is just like Johnsons obsession with obscure vilages in Vietnam. We'd spent weeks to months fighting tomcaptur some obscure village that was a supposed communist stagin and command center nay to find out after its capture that the commies had moved on and then completely abandon the site.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I've always wanted to see a Trojan Horse.

[Rufus The Monocled]

She's falling a sleep.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Every time I start rooting for Trump for saying something good, he follows it up with something moronic.

[JagerIV]

Hey, at least he occationally get your hopes up.

Hillary just pushes me into ever deeper despair. That (is it old now) comparison with playing Russian Rowlett: Trump only half filled the gun, insists their blanks, and will only pull the trigger once. Hillary has filled up every chamber, went into explicit detail on how especially deadly these Hillary brand bullets are, and by god she's going to keep pulling the trigger until something sticks.

[SugarFree]

Her maniacal grin went to a new level of creepy when he was tell her she was a failure.

[Ken Shultz]

I haven't seen the maniacal grin.

That's what I call a "shit eating grin".

Eat shit, Hillary! You know you want to.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

Jesus Christ that smile. That's the stuff of nightmares.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

"When my opponent was making The Apprentice, I was authorizing war in Iraq."

[Derpetologist]

Does anyone else see that when they do a side by side shot, the colors on Trump's side look darker. At first I thought it was an optical illusion because Clinton's wearing white, but on MSNBC, it really looks like they fiddled with the colors.

[That's A Bingo!]

Same on CNN. Noticed it at the start.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

Does he appear more... cheetoish in color?

[DOOMco]

yeah.

[SugarFree]

He's more human-toned than normal on Fox News. It looks to me like his lights are colder than hers.

But the lights are pretty terrible over all. There should be a lot of small lights rather than a few big ones throwing the shadows of the pics on them like that

[SugarFree]

And I'm pretty sure she is deliberately slightly out of focus. But that might be more an issue of audience safety.

[That's A Bingo!]

You're going to strike a deal with Russia and Syria? You want to eliminate Assad and think Putin should be given the silent treatment.

[LibertarianJRT]

Hillary: strike a deal with Russians and Syrians

[waffles]

But has she read The Art of the Deal?

[Dallas H.]

What does Orlando have to do with enforcing a no fly zone?

[geo1113]

Somethin,somethin...Queens like Donald.

[Hyperion]

Little tangent she went off on there, eh?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Little boy with blood running down his face?

I think I just found my Halloween costume.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Hillary working hard to access empathy facial expression engrams when talking about a 4 year old Syrian boy.

[Troy muy grande boner]

So people from Queens are dangerous?

[That's A Bingo!]

Spiderman is a menace!!!

[Col. Chestbridge]

+3 Js

[DenverJ]

Was working late. Just got here. Not gonna read 500+ comments. Who won, and will it matter?

[waffles]

Canada won. And no it doesn't matter.

[John Titor]

That better not be a joke about the ball game, people here are pissed.

[Gene]

Meh, this Jays fan is happy for the Indians, the better team one.

[Gene]

*one....sheesh *makes a coffee.

[DOOMco]

Not us. Yes.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Is Trump scoring points on foreign policy?

[Dallas H.]

I feel she's definitely losing (not so much him winning), but the post debate pundits will fix that.

[LibertarianJRT]

NATIONAL DEBT! DRINK!

[commodious plays tuna piano]

Is it too much to hope for an aneurysm right now? One of them or mine, I don't care.

[Rufus The Monocled]

6%?

I know the USA is massive and dynamic and maybe if you get the government out of the way...

But 6%?

[american socialist]

Uh, statistics are rigged. The whole system is rigged. These non-partisan agencies aren't calculating The 15% growth that the Trump administration is going to bring about. CLINTON FOUNDATION... BENGHAZI

[kbolino]

Here's a fun statistic for you:

If the tax rate on income over $250,000 were raised to 100%, it would only halve the yearly increase in the debt.

[american socialist]

No, that's incorrect.

[kbolino]

You're right, it wouldn't even close the nominal budget deficit!

Ain't that much money in the upper strata you communist thief. Gonna have to go after the working man to pay for socialist utopia.

[SimonD]

From what I had seen, raising taxes to 100% on everyone making over $250K per year (on all of their earnings, not just the part over 250K) would basically cover the deficit, without shrinking the debt.

Of course, the side effect is that you could only do it once.

[kbolino]

How would you even enforce such a thing for that one year? People just wouldn't make more than $250,000 if you announced it advance. You'd have to set the scheme in play the day before tax day, which means no extra revenue from withholding, and most of the people you'd be taxing wouldn't even have the money on hand to pay the tax by then. Either the courts would have to strike it down or else start confiscating assets.

[SimonD]

I was mainly being facetious. I wasn't making a serious policy proposal. The idea is: once you do it once, everyone will realize it as a possibility and find workarounds in case it happens again.

In reality you would just have massive tax evasion (or just a revolt).

Hmm. maybe this isn't such a bad idea after all.

[LibertarianJRT]

Wallace is team hillary, but is much better than the previous three.

[Dallas H.]

Cosigned.

[SimonD]

Wallace seems to have some journalistic ethics.

Yes, I win the oxymoron of the day award.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Far, FAR better.

[geo1113]

A point for Trump...Hillary said Donald has been criticizing government for years.

[Brochettaward]

Of course, he's mainly focused on his attacking trade deals with East Asians.

[Aloysious]

AAHHH!!!!

Joe Biden's forehead!! Thanks a lot, Ed, you bastard.

[Cyto]

Trump is well known to speak incoherently. Hillary isn't supposed to be incoherent. But dang, she's a babbling idiot box of unresponsive talking points.

[Rhywun]

Some flunky botched her drug cocktail.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

I'm hoping her medical team adds Conrad Murray to the staff.

[Aloysious]

ElizabethNolanBrown ? @ENBrown
wait are you watching the same thing as the rest of us @shikhadalmia?

HA!

[Zero Sum Game]

Dalmia's basking in the glow of Hillary. You can't expect anything reasonable from her under such circumstances.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

You can't expect anything reasonable from her under such circumstances.

[Zero Sum Game]

Oh my god. Am I hedging? I'm hedging, aren't I? I'm starting to catch it...

DAMN YOU, SOAVE!

[Rufus The Monocled]

What did she say?

[Dallas H.]

Said the debate was pleasant.

[Zero Sum Game]

@Rufus

This has been a remarkably pleasant debate!

[Steve G]

that the debate was "pleasant". Even threw a few bones Trumps way, surprisingly

[geo1113]

How the fuck do you have middle out growth?

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Lots of carbs.

[Rational Exuberance]

Beer, actually. Another term for "middle out growth" is "beer belly".

[SimonD]

Seriously? Get the government boot off the throat of small business. That's how the middle class grows.

However, it just sounds like buzzwords.

[geo1113]

Simon, hearing Hillary claim that makes it sound so empty.

[SimonD]

Oh. I'm not actually watching the debate. I assumed Trump said it. It is a rather Trump-ian thing. Coming from Hillary, it's a flat out lie (which I guess is a Hillary-ish thing, so there's that...)

[Cyto]

Biggest lie of all time?

I do not add a penny to the national debt? WTF?

[Hyperion]

That was a doozy.

[SimonD]

Instant FactCheck:

Since Mrs. Clinton's proposals will add $500 billion dollars to the national debt, NOT a penny, we determine that Trump is lying.

[LibertarianJRT]

Middle out growth.

[Rufus The Monocled]

FFS. It will add to the debt.

And you're a complete total retard if you believe that.

[Rhywun]

"I care about the middle class."

Whopper of the night.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Invest.

GTFOH.

[Hyperion]

Hillary's going to rebuild the middle class, plus tax the holy living shit out of the middle class to pay for all of her insane spending. Makes perfect sense.

[That's A Bingo!]

Your dad was a racist wife abuser, Hillary. And a white male, which is even worse.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Why do y'all do this to yourselves?

[Steve G]

It feels good right now, but I won't respect myself in the morning.

[waffles]

We were raised Catholic.

[LibertarianJRT]

Grand bargain on entitlements... No answer.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

"Repeal and replace"

Well, he's half right.

[Derpetologist]

Best lie so far: "But there's no doubt that I respect the Second Amendment, that I also believe there's an individual right to bear arms."

Sure, Hillary. Sure.

[DOOMco]

no, thats right. An individual: her bodyguard.

[Rhywun]

But only where "I represented Upstate New York".

[John Titor]

A visual representation of the debate, via dumb anime bullshit.

[LibertarianJRT]

Hillary is committed to raising taxes,on thr wealthy.

[SimonD]

Hillary is committed to raising taxes ,on thr wealthy.

FIFY

[Hyperion]

Note that she said raise taxes on the rich, or we'll find it somewhere. Yeah, we know exactly where you'll find it, cunt.

[kbolino]

See my math above. The money just ain't there unless you start pushing the definition of what makes one "rich" downward. You couldn't even close the deficit if you taxed all income over $250,000 at 100% with no deductions.

[Hyperion]

We have to tax the evil rich making more than $250, 000, wait ... $150, 000... this math still isn't working... $40, 000 a year!

[kbolino]

Even if you raised the marginal rates by an aggressive 25 percentage points, the cutoff would have to be about $60,000 to cover the annual increase in the debt.

[thom]

$15 an hour is a living wage. It is the amount the people need to live a decent life...and therefore they don't need any more than that either.

[Suell]

"Such a nasty woman."

Comedy gold.

[SugarFree]

Holy fuck, he just said "Such a nasty woman."

Excellent.

[Rhywun]

I almost thought I misheard that. Wow.

[Cyto]

She called him a racist in the last debate. More than once.

And called his supporters racist.

I'd say "nasty" is pretty tame.

[Hyperion]

I think the word we're looking for is cunt.

[geo1113]

And you might not being fair to women who are cunts.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Well, she is, no?

[SugarFree]

You so rarely hear the truth it can shock the ears.

[Rhywun]

This.

[Hyperion]

LOL

[Cyto]

Hey Nick, your numbers on Debt to GDP assume that Donald can get anything of his agenda passed.

He can't.

[LibertarianJRT]

Trump: Your husband disagrees with you.

[Dallas H.]

So, HRC will save money by providing enhanced benefits. Sounds like science.

[Ken Shultz]

I feel so much better now that Hillary just promised everything to everybody for free.

[Hyperion]

She's sticking with the Democrat narrative.

[geo1113]

"ASK THEM TO SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT KITTY DUKAKIS!"

If Kitty Dukakis was raped and murdered...

[Cyto]

More into the trust fund.

Shows that she cannot be trusted at all on the budget.

There is no such thing as a social security trust fund. All of the money is held in T-Bills. All of the money to pay back those T-Bills comes from current tax revenues.

It is a fraud to call it a trust fund. It is simply spending social security collections on today's general budget and putting an IOU in a box on the budget. It is a lie.

[thom]

She's trying to appeal to voters who literally think that wealthy people horde their wealth in big locked warehouses full of cash.

[SIV]

In Hitlery's dystopia, Soylent Green is only made out of white heterosexual males.

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

I thought Trump's performance was mixed, but his finish was very strong.

[LibertarianJRT]

Game over.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Ciao all.

[Ken Shultz]

She is such a nasty woman.

[GILMORE?]

shikha sood dalmia @shikhadalmia

This has been a remarkably pleasant debate!

well at least some things in life are reliable

[creech]

If I were a registered Republican or Democrat I'd be mortified to have my party identified with either of these cretins.

[DenverJ]

If I were a registered libertarian, I'd... oh wait, I am.

[That's A Bingo!]

CNN's line coming out of the debate: Trump won't accept the results of the election and therefore is unfit for president. (Al Gore not brought up.)

[Dallas H.]

Same as Fox. That's clearly the talking point.

Amazing how quickly they get those out.

[Cyto]

They had them in hand this afternoon.

[Rhywun]

Which is weird because that sailed right over my head - "Meh."

[Dallas H.]

So, if the election ends up with video of poll workers burning thousands of ballots he has to accept the results?

Not agreeing about how you'll react to an unknown future is being honest. Because HRC can say she will accept them and fight them to the Supreme Court and no one will care.

[Cyto]

Not only did they not accept the results, they didn't even accept the court decisions.

Remember "We are going to keep counting until Al Gore wins the state of Florida"?

Even after the democrat-inspired press went out and recounted the state of florida with the most Gore-friendly slant they could give it, Bush won by 10k votes. They still don't accept it to this day.

[Brochettaward]

I don't even understand the argument, really. Are they concerned that Trump is going to lead an actual revolution? The guy can piss and moan post-election all he wants. What does it actually matter?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Tapper is already spinning it for Hillary.

[Hyperion]

If she would have fell down on her face and never got back up 5 seconds after it started, CNN and MSNBC would have called it for her 5 seconds later.

[Jerryskids]

CNN: Big Line Of The Debate - Trump says he won't necessarily accept results of the election. Unprecedented, shocking, terrible.

[Jerryskids]

The line is that never before in the history of the Republic has the legitimacy of an election been questioned this way. Abe Lincoln might beg to differ. There were one or two people who didn't accept him as President if I remember my history correctly.

[The Fusionist]

Even before whipping out Lincoln, consider

John Quincy "Corrupt Bargain" Adams
Ruther*fraud* B. Hayes
George W. "OMG Florida" Bush

[thom]

Yeah...what the hell? The Democrats refused to accept the result of an election and took it to the Supreme court just 16 years ago...

[SimonD]

True, and there has never been an election in which a vote count was overturned by questionable means. Just ask current Republican Senators Norm Coleman of Minnesota and Dino Rossi of Washington

[american socialist]

What great country? The one with thousands of nuclear weapons and a tinpot fascist running for President?

[waffles]

Yep! That one!

[kbolino]

But enough about China...

[John Titor]

Actually China only has like 300 warheads. And I wouldn't trust them, or the missiles. Maoist atomic science and rocketry wasn't exactly top-tier.

[Derpetologist]

Same thing with Russia. Since they were built by the same guys whose TVs kept exploding, I expect that in an actual nuclear war, about half of their missiles would fall apart in the sky on their way here. Unfortunately, half an apocalypse is still the apocalypse.

Soviet television sets tended to explode, because of faulty manufacturing. The surprising and alarming propensity of Russian receivers to blow up, and by extension the apprehension it causes in Soviet viewers, was one of the stranger features of Soviet life. By one estimate, sixty percent of all apartment fires in Moscow are caused by mass-produced Soviet television sets, which hada tendency to explode. Of the 715 apartment fires in Moscow in November 1987, 90 were blamed on exploding television sets, a statistic the Soviet press viewed as an alarming commentary on Soviet technology. Police said three television models notorious for defective wiring are being removed from the market, and millions of warning leaflets have been mailed to television owners.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/.....sia/tv.htm

[John Titor]

Tinpot fascists

Fixed it for your buddy. But of course, you're not in the tank for Clinton. You just constantly and endlessly defend her and throw temper tantrums over people bringing up evidence of her corruption and/or incompetence. Even when people don't. Hm.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

The great country where capitalist ingenuity prevails over ossifying bureaucratic socialism? Where riches are made and wealth created and the impoverished pulled up to inexplicable heights despite the best efforts of commie fuckwits? That country?

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

You are running for President AMSOC ????

[Rufus The Monocled]

CNN is freaking out he didn't say he would accept the results.

So much for Gore.

I hate these people quite a bit.

[Ken Shultz]

I won't accept the results if Hillary wins either.

[Tony]

Before, not after. Are you people idiots or what?

[Steve G]

Of course CNN's after party is fixated on Trump 'not accepting election results'.

[SugarFree]

Fox News is as well.

[Ken Shultz]

Hillary Clinton is a traitorous criminal who pays her thuggish stooges to instigate violence and shut her political enemies' speeches down.

I will never accept her as the legitimate President of the United States.

She belongs in jail.

[Derpetologist]

Zinger of the night: "She doesn't like Putin because Putin has outsmarted her at every step of the way."

[geo1113]

Did Mick Ronson come back from the dead? (Watching Cavuto.)

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Is that Ted Danson hanging out with HRC?

[That's A Bingo!]

I just saw Trump 'hello kiss' a girl. That's harassment! Didn't see him use Tic-Tac's.

[Steve G]

.aaaand now CNN is on the "nasty woman" remark. SEXIST!!!11!!

[Steve G]

And trying to put Conway opposite Trump on the accepting election results line

[Steve G]

Good on her for walking away from that beotch

[GILMORE?]

i have not watched the debate, but i'm gathering this idea of "middle-out-growth" is some sort of class-warfare-based economic fantasy by which the quote-unquote "Middle Class" are the only ones who benefit.

(*and "middle class" is a political idea that seems to include everyone who 'has a job' and wants to send kids to college. - unlike the RichPeople Classes, who own companies and shit, and have lots of investments, and the Working Classes, who no one actually admits to ever being, but are actually the people who mostly Dont Have Jobs and live off a mix of govt handouts and make-work municipal occupations and have no ambitions for their children to do differently)

Because.... see, i'm sure there's a way we can stimulate "Growth" without any of the Bad People? getting any!! What we need to do is encourage investment (to create jobs for those middle classes)... but then tax away all the profits from investment! FOOLED YOU, RICHFAGS!! They'll totally fall for it, too.

Really, that seems to be the fantasy = that we can have "Prosperity without Disparity" - and bring wealth to the average moe while punishing the "wealthy" for their hubris.

(*of course, no one ever defines where the middle-classes ownership of stuff gets to be 'too much', do they? I guess they're allowed to have stuff, its just all going to be taxed away when they die. that way they avoid being RichPeople)

[Cyto]

This debate made me desperately wish that a competent Republican had been up there.

Rand Paul would have been my choice, but Cruz is very sharp and knowledgeable and would not let all of those hanging curve balls just sit there. Clinton was desperately weak in this debate with her talking point pivots and rehearsed canned lines. Cruz may be bereft of charisma and charm, but he's smart enough to have evicerated the opposition in this format.

Instead we got a babbling brook of nonsense, who was almost incomprehensible even when he happened to be right.

The LP needs to get it together and coach up a real representative before the next go-around. Johnson has been a pretty good "we are not a bunch of nuts" serious candidate. Next time out, we need a passionate, charismatic representative for our philosophy who can break through and get our ideas onto the national stage.

I still say the right answer is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Somebody give this guy a call. Given 3 years to prepare, he could be a formidable candidate.

[Dallas H.]

Pretty much.

[That's A Bingo!]

The Rock for LP candidate? If we are going for Hollywood, how about Vince Vaughn?

[Cyto]

Not dynamic enough. The Rock spent more than a decade in an improvisational public performance art line of work that was pretty much exactly the kind of experience you need for making campaign appearances.

[Robert]

If Johnson was fairly good, why'd he do so bad in the race for the 2012 GOP nomination? Sure, he looks like a bigger fish in the smaller pond of the LP, but how does that get a prez elected?

[John Titor]

Cruz's biggest issue is his personality. Guy's a bit of a 'high school nerd' stereotype grown up; he's got a bit of an inflated ego where being right is better than actually winning. Honestly, I think his social issues create a general aura around him that turns people off. Paul's a lot more personable, he's even got one of those semi-folksy accents to help!

[commodious plays tuna piano]

Cruz would'nt be running against Bubba. He'd have run against Hillary, the Ice Shrew.

Can we take a moment of silent condescension to reflect on just how fucking stupid Trump voters are? I am once again question universal franchise because these dumb fucking retards put up this paper tiger in lieu of an actual candidate. Jesus fucking Christ what a goddamn shit show. Fuck these people.

[John Titor]

Welcome to partisan politics, where single issue idiot voters can turn the tide! Everyone ignoring your nutso rants about Mexicans? We got a guy for you! Tired of political correctness? This guy doesn't even know what that is!

I was reading the comments on that Red State article about Rand Paul, and one uber-Republican was ranting about how he won't do anything about Syria. His recommendation was to set up a no-fly zone over Syria, call any aircraft within in Syrian, and shoot down Russian planes, "because we did it in Korea". Korea. From when the U.S. had overwhelming international support and the Soviet Union didn't have nukes, and warfare hasn't changed at all in sixty years. Trump supporters aren't the only morons.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

If there's any proof there never was and won't ever be a libertarian moment, this season was it. Liberty is over, friends, and we're squabbling over crumbs. I mean in broad strokes. No, Hillary isn't going to steal your guns. No, despite Trump's best efforts, there's not going to be a great American enclosure. But still, it's obvious where the impetus lays. There's no profit and certainly no political benefit to be garnered from championing deregulation or entitlement reform, the issues most pertinent to broad-brush American interests today. For the foreseeable future there's no major reforms likely, just a bunch of edge-trimming and managed decline into Eurocratic expectations of slow growth and high unemployment. Gone will be the days of huge technological upheavals: that's a relic of a time when you didn't have to live in fear of your investment being upended and subsumed by bureaucrats.

[GILMORE?]

Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

...

...

the scorpion king, former wrestler guy?

wha

[Cyto]

Yes, that's the guy.

He's pretty sharp, too. No idea about his politics. I'll assume generic democrat with socially liberal leanings due to his profession and with fiscally conservative leanings due to having made a metric shit-ton of money as an entertainer.

He's a dynamic speaker who made his living by having an outsized personality to go with his outsized physique. He'd need intense coaching by the Jacket et. al. to get his libertarian philosophy in place... and then some intense coaching by those political operatives that run campaigns.

But Reagan proved that acting is a great background for becoming a politician. Particularly if you have a lot of experience in live improvisational work (Reagan had a background in radio as well). Arnold had a similar formula to become governor of California.

So yes, I'm a little tongue in cheek, but he would make a great candidate if he happened to actually have the correct beliefs and was actually interested in the job.

[SimonD]

According to Wiki, he's a registered Republican (moderate) and actually seems to have interest in a political career. You may be onto something

[DenverJ]

Drew Carrie

[DOOMco]

Agreed! We could remix whos line clips into the state of the union.

[That's A Bingo!]

CNN is focused on Trump's election results line. Thus far, no mention of anything Hillary did during the debate.

[Steve G]

Van Jones needs to STFU.

[Dallas H.]

Because she did nothing you can remotely spin positively for her so you have to pretend she wasn't there. Duh.

[Brochettaward]

That sums up the entire election. Hillary is such an awful candidate that they can't even talk about her. They have to focus on Trump because finding positives about Hillary is damn near impossible.

[Aloysious]

Lucy Steigerwald @LucyStag
You're all bad people. #Debatenight

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zvCUmeoHpw

[Dallas H.]

So, if the election ends up with video of poll workers burning thousands of ballots he has to accept the results?

Not agreeing about how you'll react to an unknown future is being honest. Because HRC can say she will accept them and fight them to the Supreme Court and no one will care.

[Jerryskids]

I liked how Hillary promised to do more to help small businesses because that's where the employment growth is and also to help the employees of the small businesses by raising the minimum wage.

[Brochettaward]

This is a women who is on the record as saying that businesses don't create jobs.

[GILMORE?]

I liked how Hillary promised to do more to help small businesses

lol

I doubt "reduce startup costs" by eliminating regulatory hurdles and legal burdens was what she had in mind. More like, "throw a few hundred billion in bullshit 'stimulus' at state governments" and call that the Small Business Initiative, and watch all the money get thrown at "Infrastructure" projects for the local union labor.

[SIV]

Debate's over

Now STFU and VOTE TRUMP

[Brochettaward]

The media - to include the Reason staff - are testing me. Florida keeps pushing off the registration deadline. I just may get off my ass and do it.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Advocacy for the libertarian candidate on a libertarian blog that is part of a libertarian non-profit is pushing you to vote for Trump?

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

http://nypost.com/2016/10/16/n.....fire-bomb/

[Apatheist ?_??]

Are you saying that the Reason staff firebombed that office or is this the day you decided to stand up and proudly declare "I cucked myself out to a New York liberal statist and I'm proud of it?"

[Sevo]

Yeah. Let's see, he's a loser who supports absolutely nothing of what I do, so I'll vote for him!

[Brochettaward]

Are you pretending that your vote actually matters here?

[Brochettaward]

Go up and read the Tweets above and tell me that's advocacy for a libertarian candidate. I have no issue with their pro-Johnson bias. No one really does. But nice strawman you put up there.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Oh yes, you dance in your underpants around a massive strawman you set on fire about the Reason staff and your retort is that I'm the one putting up a strawman. Low energy.

[Brochettaward]

There's no strawman behind what I said about Reason. Most of the Reason staff is on record that of the two big party candidates, they'd mostly prefer Hillary or find Trump to be a worse prospect. Their coverage has been overwhelmingly slanted to fear mongering and pearl clutching over Trump.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Piling more straw onto our strawman, interesting strategy.

[Brochettaward]

What is it with the cosmos around here and their inability to address arguments? You want to disagree? Well and good. But it's pretty pathetic that the lot of you seem to think explaining why is beneath you.

[Apatheist ?_??]

I wasn't aware that you were making arguments instead of taking a dump in your mom's bed because she wouldn't give you a cookie. I guess I can't interpret retard well enough.

[Brochettaward]

So you have nothing here. You just get worked up and feel the need to defend the honor of some cosmo libertarian writers like Robby who will eventually flee to places like the Huffington Post where they'll occasionally mention how embarrassed they were to be associated with people like you.

[Sevo]

Brochettaward|10.19.16 @ 11:41PM|#
"What is it with the cosmos"

You mean those who don't buy your bullshit? Is that a "cosmo"? Or did you just toss that out because you've been called on bullshit?

[Brochettaward]

Well, hey, Sevo, you are free to explain how what I have said is bullshit. But you guys are incapable of that. So let's repeat:
"Most of the Reason staff is on record that of the two big party candidates, they'd mostly prefer Hillary or find Trump to be a worse prospect. Their coverage has been overwhelmingly slanted to fear mongering and pearl clutching over Trump."

[Sevo]

"Most of the Reason staff is on record that of the two big party candidates, they'd mostly prefer Hillary or find Trump to be a worse prospect. Their coverage has been overwhelmingly slanted to fear mongering and pearl clutching over Trump."

I saw the 'how we plan to vote' thread last week. It seems you didn't; buillshit.
Drag up the cite so we can all laugh at you and SIV; you both deserve the 'stupid' award.

[Sevo]

Debate's over. Imbeciles join SIV in the stupid room over there and pat yourselves on the back for voting for the blowhard loser.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Sevo.

One of these socialist assholes is going to win, and it's not going to be a Progressive, Blue State, Republican pretending to be a Libertarian.

It's no longer about the "Protest vote".
It's about the "FUCK YOU" vote.

I don't know about you, but I am stocking up on ammo.

Shits about to get real.

[Derpetologist]

Lead: the other precious metal

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Damn right Derpy.

[DenverJ]

So, this is the story I've heard, I have done exactly zero to confirm it:
Back in the day, a 45 bullet's worth of lead was equal in value to 1 oz of whiskey. So, when the cowpokes wandered into town, after spending all their money but still desiring to drink more whiskey, they would trade a bullet for a "shot". Get it?
One serendipitous result was that the drunker a guy became, the less ammo he had.
Again, I have done zero research to confirm this, mostly because I'd like it to be true, and would rather not be disillusioned.

[Derpetologist]

It's OK. The real etymology is even funnier:

The Oxford English Dictionary's first citation for the term "shot glass" is in The New York Timeswikipedia.org during the 1940s, but the earliest known written reference was in a 1913 book by Dr. Jehu Z. Powell, A History of Cass County Indiana from its Earliest Settlement to the Present Time [Lewis Publishing Company, 1913].

On page 655 Dr. Powell recounts an incident c. 1857 in the small town of New Waverly, Indiana, occasioned by a local man attempting to open a saloon against fierce local temperance opposition. The initial stock was a barrel of whiskey, which had arrived by train and was sitting on the open freight platform awaiting delivery to the would-be barkeeper. A local man who was an ardent temperance supporter fired his rifle from an upper floor window in his house and shot a hole in the barrel, draining it of its contents. "The remedy was effectual, and the saloon was not opened, and ever after, when the boys wanted a drink they would ask for a 'shot of redeye'".

[DenverJ]

Shhhhh..... don't want to be disillusioned with the story that I like.

[Sevo]

"One of these socialist assholes is going to win, and it's not going to be a Progressive, Blue State, Republican pretending to be a Libertarian."

So you'll vote for the blue state R who hasn't a chance of winning to, what? re-enforce the R choice of a blowhard? Cut your nose off to spite your face?
Yep, SIV is right there with you!

[Derpetologist]

Amusing: college students struggle to explain why they're voting for Clinton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiJE27ULK10

[GILMORE?]

Georgetown.

top-people-in-training

[Derpetologist]

Meh, it's less enraging than the MIT grads who couldn't get a lightbulb to shine with a bulb, battery, and wire or the Harvard grads who couldn't explain why seasons exist.

[GILMORE?]

no. its the same. If Georgetown has signature specialties, its their bullshit artists (*most go for law, politics, and intl affairs)

These muppets couldn't bullshit their way out of a self-help conference. They gave up without trying.

[Zero Sum Game]

You found solid derp there, Derpetologist. Drill, baby, drill! We'll reach peak derp aaaaaaany day now.

[Derpetologist]

Peak Derp is not the only possibility. Some derpotological models point to a massive decrease in derp in the distant future, an event termed the Big Facepalm. Others, such as myself, believe that while derp is currently expanding, it will eventually reach a steady state.

Find out more in my new TV series, Derpmos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Lwj_ybVno

[Zero Sum Game]

I returned just to say that this was particularly funny. I'm thankful that you used some of your better material here so that I could partake. 🙂

[That's A Bingo!]

CNN keeps saying that Trump started strong. He was deflated until he got into immigration.

[That's A Bingo!]

Axelrod dissing other panelists as ace Trump supporters. What the hell are you, Axelrod?

[Voros McCracken]

It is simply beyond the pale that a group of partisans would refuse to accept the legitimacy of the voting results of a presidential election. Donald Trump has crossed a line no one has ever dared to cross and threatens our democracy.

Fuck you people for making me not completely dread the possibility of this putz winning. Disingenuous assholes.

[Tony]

No candidate has preemptively declared the election rigged. That's what they're saying. Show me one who has.

[Rational Exuberance]

Well, gosh, no candidate has preemptively declared his opponents to be a crook in the legal sense and threatened to indict them after the election. Yet, in this case, it's entirely justified.

[DenverJ]

And who else had been asked, Tony? Did anybody all Al Gore before the election? Did anybody Obumbles before his election?
"Senator Kennedy, if you lose the election, will you accept the results?"
And if he was only asked because he said the election was rigged, so what? Are you telling me that the major media is not actively working to get Boss Hawg elected?

[Brian]

No candidate has ever deserved impeachment from the moment she was sworn in.

I guess there's a first time for everything.

[Dallas H.]

Was Hillary not on this debate? They don't cover any of the ridiculous shit she said. She talked about controlling the 2nd amendment to protect people from toddlers with guns and not a peep.

[Derpetologist]

Vote for Hillary because she cares about dwarves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXf9ApkY__Q

The bathos never ends.

[Brochettaward]

How hard did they have to go digging to find some dwarf that Hillary hugged on the campaign trail in '90's?

[SimonD]

Well, the front page of my MSN feed has three headlines about the debate.

Trump won't commit to accepting election results if he loses

Trump calls Clinton 'such a nasty woman'

Trump blames Clinton for sexual misconduct allegations

Then there was one mentioning fact checking without actually making a statement about the debate.

THIS is what Trump is talking about when he says the election is 'rigged'.

Fuck you, media for making me start to like Trump.

[Dallas H.]

Nothing about gangs of armed toddlers? Odd.

[Dallas H.]

Nothing about Russian's rigging the election?

[That's A Bingo!]

Now CNN is on the "bad ombre" line.

[That's A Bingo!]

*hombre

[Cyto]

As soon as that word came out of his mouth, I knew the professional outrage machine would be on top of it and declare it the most racist moment of all time.

[Derpetologist]

In Hillary's America, there will be a place for everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZtjCY7_Ws

Now know your role and shut your hole, you stupid rednecks.

[Hyperion]

Deplorable basket for you.

[Derpetologist]

Or else I get the hose again?

[american socialist]

Do GIs get paid twice a month or every two weeks? I've always wanted to calculate how much in taxes I'm paying to libertarians in the army? Thank bro for the info. Semper Fi!

[AlmightyJB]

bf? Tears of a clown :'(

[Nativist, Racist & Xenophobe]

Ok, the consensus on most of the blogs I've read is that Trump won this one.
The media is claiming Hillary did.

Interesting...

[Cyto]

2 things.

1. "Blogs I've read" == echo chamber .... a group selected because of your interests reinforces your interests.

2. Hillary's campaign proudly touted their social media and direct contact campaign to ensure that every journalist covering the debate would be inundated with the message that Hillary won - creating the perception that this was reality. It was their stated strategy going into the debates to get the instant media reaction in their favor, regardless of the actual debate.

Also, we learned from wikileaks that the Clinton campaign directly and closely coordinates with members of the media, including the main faces on TV and the editors at major newspapers. Of course they say Hillary won. They would have said this if she had caught fire and burned into a hole in the stage.

[Hyperion]

Yes, it's automatic.

[Nativist, Racist & Xenophobe]

I'm certainly aware that my choice of blogs is biased. Still, in the previous 2 debates I was able to get a reasonable feel for how the audience perceived the candidates.

Oddly, the "Hillary Won!" stories have disappeared from google's news page already. A quick glance a few minutes ago had at least three listed. Now I don't see a single one.

Curiouser and curiouser.

[commodious plays tuna piano]

Trump. Has. Lost. The. Election. For fuck's sake, lie to yourself if you must but let's neither one of use lie to each other: Trump has no shot at the presidency. He's salvaging what little credibility he has as a brand name now. He's done. Period. Forget about Trump. Let's just consider what Trump, in his flailing about, is going to do to the only bulwark against unilateral progressive control. That's what matters now.

[waffles]

You're correct. At least he straight up called her out as a nasty.

[Sevo]

I'm calling hag at 320EC votes. That asshole Trump is going to give her a 'mandate' that the dog-catcher candidate from Rusty Gateswing, WV couldn't have done.
His 'management' should have used duct tape to keep his yap shut starting several months ago.

[Hyperion]

Accidentally posted this derptastic idiocy in the other thread, sorry for cross posting.

Holy fucking shit, here we go again.

PINK! NEWEST SCARIEST DRUG EVER!

"This stuff is so powerful that if you touch it, you could go into cardiac arrest," said Park City Police Chief Wade Carpenter to NBC News.

Well, at least it doesn't turn people into crocodiles or make the eat faces.

[Brochettaward]

The fun thing about the synthetic drugs is that there's always new ones that most people are ignorant of so the pants shitting articles will never end.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com.....nd_8906251

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

You know.
For the kids. =D

[GILMORE?]

Obligatory

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

=D

[american socialist]

Hmm, if the choice is between a dedicated public servant with a middling record of achievement in a complicated world that doesn't always feel compelled to follow the dictates of the US SoState and a narcissistic, racist, misogynist nutcase...

[kbolino]

1/10 phoned it in

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

Methinks AMSOC is looking for some CAKE.

=D

[Sevo]

Yep, rely on commie-kid to characterize a lying, felonious hag as:
"dedicated public servant with a middling record of achievement"
Do you think anyone other than you, Tony and the hag's staff buys that shit? I'm sure you do; stupidity is all you're about.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

[Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.]

"Dedicated public servant"??

And you wonder why everyone, including your own mother, hates you and wants you to die.

[Rational Exuberance]

Well, AmSoc, the choice we are actually facing is between a corrupt, lying, unaccomplished, homophobic, war-mongering psychopath and an inarticulate, self-promoting, ass-grabbing orange gnome.

I'm pretty certain the orange gnome is the better choice.

[PapayaSF]

James O'Keefe's video of Huma saying that Hillary wants to bring in all Syrian refugees.

[DenverJ]

Wouldn't it be easier to just invade Syria, install democracy, and let them all stay there?

[Hyperion]

Seems like we tried installing democracy there once before and they didn't want it.

[Hyperion]

So we have to bring them here where they also won't want a Western style government.

[DenverJ]

We haven't tried with Syria. And Iraq would have been even better if a Clinton has been in charge instead of a Bush. Or something. Hell, let's just take over the whole world, install democracy, and sing kumbaya.

[Hyperion]

Actually we did try that with Syria back in the 50s. It was one of our earlier regime change schemes.

[Hyperion]

That bullshit she was spouting about that poor little Syrian boy... We know exactly what kind of horrible things get done to the American people based on emotional sob stories like that one, you old hag. Of all the lies she told, that one pissed me off the most. Just like the story about the little dead boy that washed up on shore in Greece was used to push mass immigration from Syria into Europe 'It's all just women and poor little children! Who's afraid of them?'. Then when you see the real coverage, it's just masses of young men standing around. I hate Hillary and I hate the fucking media just as much.

[Derpetologist]

OT: 10,000 Scrotum Frogs Die Mysteriously in Lake Titicaca

No, this is not a Sugarfree story.

[Hyperion]

Global warming, Duh! You deniers never learn!

[Sevo]

Enough! OT:

"Wells Fargo Facing Criminal Investigation in California"
[...]
"California Attorney General Kamala Harris has launched a criminal investigation into whether Wells Fargo employees committed false impersonation and identity theft as part of an accounts scandal that has engulfed the bank in recent weeks."
http://abcnews.go.com/Business.....d=42922933

Harris was a Willie Brown fuck who listened well enough to ride his coattails to the office she now holds; her principle is easily understood; get elected and suck the public teat. He doesn't seem to say much about her anymore; maybe she was a bad fuck and not bright enough to get even Willie to comment.
Now Wells really fucked up, but it's doubtful they crossed the line of 'identity theft', except as Harris chooses to define it and that definition is likely to be 'way more broad that the definition of the hag's 'destroying evidence' pass.
Regardless, she's running for senate (since CA doesn't have enough brain-deads in that position), and it's a great chance to score cheap points.
Like Trump, Wells should be prosecuted for public stupidity, not identity theft.

[Hyperion]

Wells Fargo has been in trouble for at least a month now over fake accounts.

[Sevo]

Yes, and it took until now that Harris' finger in the air told her there might be a breeze in that direction.
(disclosure: I have some of my accounts at WF and am a stock holder)

[american socialist]

Fun with exponents...

Minimum salary of people in top 1% = 4.2e5/yr
Number of working people in top 1%=1.9e6
Current federal tax rate of people in top 1%=~0.3 of income

How much taxes could be raised by not touching the tax rates of 99% of the population?

4.2e5x1.9e6x0.7

Multiply 4.3x1.9x0.7=4.3x1.33=~5.7
Add the exponents 5+6
Total revenue=5.7e11=570 billion dollars, a conservative estimate since I'm using the threshold number for the 1%

Current FY2015 deficit= 4.38e11

Hey Kbolino, is 5.7e11>4.38e11?

[kbolino]

Why am I not surprised you have no idea how income taxes or statistics work. Also apparently you manufactured 65 million households out of thin air.

There are 125 million households. Income taxes are marginal. The top 3% (so about 3.7 million households) of income-earning households, those making at least $250,000 a year, have a mean income of $400,000. That means only $150,000 on average is subject to the tax increase. If you increased it to 70% from its current value of 35%, for an increase of 35%, you would net:

$150,000 ? 0.35 ? 3.7 million = $194 billion

That's less than half the deficit. Even if you raised the tax rate to 100%, which of course would lead to a collapse of tax revenues from that bracket, you would still only be increasing the rate by 65% since 35% of it is already being paid.

$150,000 0.65 ? 3.7 million = $361 billion

Still less than the deficit!

But wait, there's more...

[american socialist]

That's some real good moving of goal posts. Fran Tarkatan, that field goal kicker is going to have to make a 300-yarder if Kbolino keeps it up...

"If the tax rate on income over $250,000 were raised to 100%, it would only halve the yearly increase in the debt."

[kbolino]

The debt held by the public increases by over $1 trillion a year.

Debt change != Deficit

[kbolino]

Why am I not surprised you have no idea how income taxes or statistics work. Also apparently you manufactured 65 million households out of thin air.

There are 125 million households. Income taxes are marginal. The top 3% (so about 3.7 million households) of income-earning households, those making at least $250,000 a year, have a mean income of $400,000. That means only $150,000 on average is subject to the tax increase. If you increased it to 70% from its current value of 35%, for an increase of 35%, you would net:

$150,000 ? 0.35 ? 3.7 million = $194 billion

That's less than half the deficit. Even if you raised the tax rate to 100%, which of course would lead to a collapse of tax revenues from that bracket, you would still only be increasing the rate by 65% since 35% of it is already being paid.

$150,000 0.65 ? 3.7 million = $361 billion

Still less than the deficit!

But wait, there's more...

[kbolino]

Fucking squirrels. Anyway, let's suppose that the 99th percentile of household income was $420,000 like you say. That information is surprisingly hard to verify, but doesn't strike me as wrong. Now, we need to know the mean income for that group. There are no reliable figures that I can find, so we'll have to estimate. The mean of the top 3% is $400,000 and that's 3.7 million households so the total is $1.48 trillion. We have to subtract out the lower 2% making between $250,000 and $420,000 but we don't have a mean for that group. So let's do a conservative ballpark and say it's $300,000. So that's $300,000 ? 2.5 million = $750 billion.

Now we're left with the top 1% of households having total income of $730 billion. There's 1.2 million of them, so the mean is about $608,000. Let's say for the sake of discussion that the top bracket is equal to the income of the top 1%, so $420,000. That leaves $188,000 subject to the tax.

Now, the top marginal tax rate is 39.6% so making it 70% would be an increase of 30.4%. That nets:

$188,000 ? 0.304 ? 1.2 million = $68.5 billion

Ouch. What if you took it all?

$188,000 ? 0.604 ? 1.2 million = $136.5 billion

Still no dice.

If I may indulge a bit: son, you brought a plastic knife to a gun fight. You best step up if you want to start arguing math with me.

[kbolino]

TL;DR of my takedown:

1. $420,000 is the top 1% household income, not the top 1% of individual income
2. There are 1.2 million households in the top 1%, not 1.9 million
3. Income taxes are collected on the margins, not the total income
4. In order to estimate the margin, you need to know the mean not the percentile

[Butts Wagner]

Huh, there was a debate

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