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Vindication For Virginia Gun Rights Group

Katie Couric admits to deceptive edit, but anti-gun extremist director still standing by it

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Once in a while the little guys win—as the Virginia Citizens Defense League did recently. The gun-rights group has achieved a measure of vindication after a Katie Couric documentary about guns tried to make it look bad.

Biased coverage of controversial topics, including guns and gun control, shows up in all sorts of ways. Usually they're fairly subtle. Mainstream news organizations routinely refer to "the gun lobby," for instance, but almost never to "the abortion lobby"—even though both gun-rights groups and abortion-rights groups maintain powerful lobbying arms in Washington and state capitals. But "lobby" carries perjorative overtones, so it gets applied only to gun advocates.

That is almost certainly unintentional. Most news organizations try to be even-handed, and often don't realize when they fall short.

But there was nothing unintentional about what Couric and Stephanie Soechtig, the director of Under the Gun, did to the VCDL. To the contrary, their behavior was deliberately mendacious.

In the film, Couric asks a group of members of the VCDL, "If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?"

What follows is several seconds of awkward silence. The camera focuses on the faces of the gun-rights supporters, who cast their eyes downward as, it appears, the folly of their own position sinks in. Ominous music swells.

Except that isn't how the interview went. Raw audio provided by VCDL president Philip Van Cleave shows that the interviewees answered the question immediately. The first response, in fact, took a page right out of Gov. Terry McAuliffe's book: "Well, one, if you're not in jail, you should still have your basic rights. . . . If you've done your time, you should have your rights." As McAuliffe himself put it regarding his order to restore felons' voting rights, once you have served your time, "you have paid the price. You are done with the legal system. You are back in society."

Another VCDL member points out that "we do have statutes both at the federal and state level that prohibit classes of people from being in possession of firearms. If you're under 18 in Virginia, you can't walk around with a gun. If you're an illegal immigrant, if you're a convicted felon, if you've been adjudicated insane—these things are already illegal. So what we're really asking about is a question of prior restraint. How can we prevent future crime by identifying bad guys before they do anything bad? And the simple answer is, you can't. And particularly under the legal system we have in the United States. There are a lot of Supreme Court opinions that say: No, prior restraint is something the government does not have the authority to do. Until there is an overt act that says, 'that's a bad guy,' then you can't punish him."

You can agree or disagree with that answer, but it's an intelligent response to a good question. Yet the documentary omits it to make the VCDLers look like idiots.

When first called out for the deception, Couric and Soechtig defended it. "My intention was to provide a pause for the viewer to have a moment to consider this important question," Soechtig said. Couric pronounced herself "very proud" of the film.

Eventually, Couric summoned the grace to climb down. "I take responsibility for a decision that misrepresented an exchange I had with members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League," she said last week. "I regret that those eight seconds were misleading and that I did not raise my initial concerns (about them) more vigorously."

Soechtig, on the other hand, remained defiant. She claimed that documentaries have "a different standard than the nightly news has. When you're making a film like this, the goal is to get people to come to theaters to watch your film." And anyway, if she had wanted to make the VCDL look bad, "I would have focused exclusively on their radical ideology." She laments the way a "noisy fringe" has "been really successful in preventing our legislators from passing any meaningful legislation on this issue."

This is hardly the only example of manipulative editing, of course. A year ago the country was consumed with the sting videos purporting to expose Planned Parenthood's criminal trade in fetal tissue. Those videos likewise turned out to be, as countless news organs put it, "heavily" and "deceptively edited." The filmmakers ended up being the ones indicted. A couple of decades ago NBC apologized for a Dateline segment in which it rigged GM trucks with incendiary devices to make sure they exploded on camera. Michael Moore's polemics have necessitated an entire industry to track his various deceptions, manipulations, and misrepresentations.

Couric herself has a history of hostility toward the rights of what she once called "Second Amendment fundamentalist zealots." In sharp contrast—and even after this episode—supporters of the Second Amendment still defend her rights under the First.

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  1. Fucking Couric with a rusty woodchipper.

  2. I still defend her right to fuck all the way off.

  3. “My intention was to provide a pause for the viewer to have a moment to consider this important question”

    I cannot believe that anyone would expect people to buy this.

    Even if that were the case, a documentary being edited to gently coerce the viewers into seeing the magnificence and gravity of the towering intellectual making said documentary isn’t a doc so much as just a ginormous mental masturbation exercise. Which, of course, was actually the whole point. With a bit of the usual left-wing gun animism.

    1. She’s giving intellectual cover to the true believers who need to hear something, anything, no matter how facially absurd.

      1. That’s probably enough cover for my mother to waive it off, for example.

        1. Which is funny; even if true it doesn’t answer the question she asked. It just explains after a paper-tissue-shear fashion her misleading editorial choice.

    2. “…a documentary being edited to gently coerce the viewers into seeing the magnificence and gravity of the towering intellectual making said documentary isn’t a doc so much as just a ginormous mental masturbation exercise.”

      Or what could be called a propaganda film.

    3. a ginormous mental masturbation exercise

      You mean “propaganda”.

    4. I cannot believe that anyone would expect people to buy this.

      Considering that it was aimed at people who *want* to buy it, so it’s not that difficult to believe that they will.

  4. good thing the interviewees recorded it or i’d have that fucking 8-second heads bowed Couric literally gang rapes right-wing militia gun nuts all over my facebook feed.

    1. *Literally??*

      1. Yes, the hyperbole would be “literally” rapes.

  5. Yes, a group that represents roughly 100s of thousands of people (just in Virginia. Groups like the NRA, NAGR and SAF represents MILLIONS) are “fringe”. Keep telling yourself that, gun grabbers.

    1. At this point, they’re realizing that they’ll have to settle for dying on imaginary gun control hills or, worse still, just go on living in a world where people are allowed to own guns without their permission.

      1. I think they really do believe gun owners are “fringe” and a small minority of Americans and that they can win this fight. Who knows? Maybe they can…

        1. They do. It’s because they live in urban centers, which are the least politically diverse locations on the planet.

        2. A fairly high percentage of people in Britain used to own guns with little regulation. If the left can make the process onerous enough and can shift the cultural zeitgeist by restricting the number of people who have their own skin in the game they can certainly win. And they never never ever give up.

          1. Exactly. Despite the large numbers of guns and gun owners in the U.S., I’m not as hopeful as some of our commmentariat seem to be.

            1. I remain optimistic. Some states are really terrible, but a lot of states have been loosening regulations. I say gun control remains a big loser politically at the national level.

        3. Part of making war is dehumanizing and marginalizing the enemy. Anti-gun groups will always label gun owners “fringe” or “radical” or “extreme” (or “subhuman,” which is what they’re really thinking inside), even if gun owners are the largest majority subset of the USA.

          1. It’s bizarre how they think that being “extreme” or on the “fringe” automatically makes someone wrong. They’re on the extreme side of tons of issues – ask them to cede just a little bit of ground on gay marriage, abortion, “climate change”, transgender bathrooms, gay wedding cakes, etc. and watch them fly into a rage.

            The truth is sometimes an extreme position.

  6. all that matters to Couric and her tribe is that the people who already know they are 100% right can feel great about it and blame others whenever something sad happens

  7. The PP videos were edited for brevity and the full length videos were released. There was indeed misleading information in them, but it was nowhere near as blatant and manipulative as this.

    1. Look, he’s criticizing someone on the Left, so he risks being called a conservative. If it takes a little implausible moral-equivalence talk to avoid that risk, then so be it.

      1. And besides, they *were* indicted. It’s not as though DAs have been guilty of bringing charges against a politically unpopular group in order to squelch dissent. Certainly nothing in recent history speaks to this sort of flagrant abuse of power. Nothing comes to mind, anyway.

  8. “Mainstream news organizations routinely refer to “the gun lobby,” for instance, but almost never to “the abortion lobby”?even though both gun-rights groups and abortion-rights groups maintain powerful lobbying arms in Washington and state capitals. But “lobby” carries perjorative overtones, so it gets applied only to gun advocates.
    That is almost certainly unintentional”.

    He really thinks that is unintentional? Really??

    1. Yeah, I saw that line and thought, “this has to be some kind of joke”.

    2. Yeah, it has to be intentional. They are trying to imply that gun makers are just like tobacco companies, or something along those lines. Trying to create the narrative that unscrupulous gun makers are tricking people into accepting loose gun regulations.

      1. Like fossil fuel companies tricking people into buying their guzzoline.

        1. If it wasn’t for those bastards, all our cars would run on water and our sense of self-satisfaction.

          1. nice bit of sarc there. Well played. I like it

      2. There is a meme in gun control circles to belittle the NRA as an ‘astroturf’ organization that is run by gun manufacturers.

        Totally ignoring the millions of members that organization has.

        1. That’s nothing compared to the disgustingly racist crap thrown at Colion Noir. He’s been called a “puppet” and “Uncle Tom” and worse. Just a glance behind the mask of progressives – black folks don’t have agency to make up their own minds.

          1. “Progressives” have a special place in hell for minorities, women, and LGBTs who don’t fall in line and vote how they’re supposed to.

      3. Yep, they’re just trying to tap into class envy/hatred of for-profit entities.

        Planned Parenthood is quite profitable, especially with its gov’t subsidies, and yet nobody on the left slams them for being “driven by profits.” The Koch brothers get slammed for being rich conservative donors, yet the public sector unions give more to Democrats than corporations do to the Republicans.

        Leftist money-making machines = good; every other money-making machine = bad.

        Leftist violence/rioting = good; every other violence/rioting = bad.

        1. Leftist violence/rioting = goodmainstream, constitutionally-protected political protest; every other violence/rioting = bad.

          FTFY

        2. Also, note that when Republicans funnel taxpayer money to favored corporations, it’s “crony capitalism”, but when Democrats give taxpayer money to wind and solar manufacturers, it’s called “investing in green energy”.

    3. That jumped out at me too. I call bullshit on that; we’re talking about people who wordsmith for a living. It’s not just some big funny coincidence that only people they disagree with are the ones they call a “lobby”.

  9. She claimed that documentaries have “a different standard than the nightly news has. When you’re making a film like this, the goal is to get people to come to theaters to watch your film.”

    So let me get this straight: Soechtig actually thinks the job of a documentary is solely to get butts in theater seats? That would explain a lot about her sense of editorial morals. Also, by extension, she thinks that the standard of the nightly news is not to get viewers? What planet does she live on, exactly?

    1. Jurassic World was my favorite documentary last year.

      1. I’ve seen some good documentaries about alien robots invading Earth.

    2. Werner Herzog can put asses in theater seats without, to my knowledge, divisive partisan hackery.

      Maybe if your choice of subject proves difficult to treat fairly, you shouldn’t be documenting it.

      1. (Cave of Forgotten Dreams was a treat to see in 3D. The only movie I’ve seen that benefits from it.)

    3. Maybe that question will get answered in the course of discovery during the defamation suits.

  10. PBR – You could have quoted the next sentence as well, “Most news organizations try to be even-handed, and often don’t realize when they fall short.”

    Did an adult just write that sentence?

    1. Seriously. What is he talking about? His employer should have him drug tested today.

      1. His employer should have him drug tested today.

        NTTAWWT

  11. And anyway, if she had wanted to make the VCDL look bad, “I would have focused exclusively on their radical ideology.” She laments the way a “noisy fringe” has “been really successful in preventing our legislators from passing any meaningful legislation on this issue.”

    Oh, FOAD kissy kissy, you mendacious cunt.

    1. TM – If you check VCDL.org, You’ll see they added that quotation to their list of tributes.

  12. Maybe this is just me, but if I had to lie to people to try to get them agree with my beliefs, I might start to wonder why I hold those beliefs myself.

    If the problem exists, and if that problem is actually that bad, why is the truth not enough to support it? Why does the truth not convince people?

    I have found myself sitting far from the rock of truth before. I didn’t try to move the rock, rather I moved myself to the rock.

    1. You do have to lie to people. You just don’t realize it. False consciousness and all that.

      /Couric

      1. +1 Leo Strauss.

    2. Maybe this is just me, but if I had to lie to people to try to get them agree with my beliefs, I might start to wonder why I hold those beliefs myself.

      Pity more politicians don’t (can’t) follow this line of thinking…

    3. Very well said 1775.

      My version – If you have to lie to make your case then you don’t have a case worth making.

  13. That reminds me. This ABC News “re-creation” after the Colorado theater shooting never seemed to get called out for the fact that the shooter is shown spraying the theater with bullets from a fully-automatic rifle. I immediately mentioned it on The Facespace at the time, and predictably got called a gun nut who should be ashamed of myself. (Jump to 04:14 in the clip.)

    1. The media has a long history of faking stuff.

      Remember NBC’s Dateline rigging the gas tanks on GM trucks to explode?

      1. …and NBC rigging the George Zimmerman 911 call tape with a similarly fake editing job.

      2. or Ralph Nader’s deliberately rigging the “testing” of the Corvair? “Unsafe at any speed”, he dubbed them. I owned and drove a number of them and there was nothing wrong with their handling. GM folded and ended the line, even after they put the Corvette full independent rear dudpension on all cars from ’64 onward.

  14. Speaking of guns, I’m looking at getting a weapon for practice and potentially concealed carry (but mostly for practice). I was thinking a 22 pistol (I’m not into long guns at all). I’m looking for the best combo of reasonably priced, reliable, and easy-to-use. Something that’s good for someone inexperienced like me. Any recos?*

    *THe Taurus .410/45 is in my nightstand for home defense. It’s too heavy for concealed carry, and I’d like to get more experience before shooting it regularly.

    1. Walther P22 is nice, though not super compact.

    2. If you insist on a 22 (I’d recommend a 9mm), get a revolver. The 22 pistols that are light enough to conceal are generally jamamatics. If the primer in a revolver doesn’t touch off you only have to pull the trigger again.

      Ruger and S&W make decent ones but the triggers are stiff.

      1. What model of 9mm would you recommend, Grinchy? Same rules apply as for the 22.

        1. Pretty much any brand-name, service-size 9mm will be about the same as any other. Don’t get anything really small, or from a company headquartered in someplace you can’t drink the tap water, and you’ll be in good shape. The little differences that enthusiasts (such as myself) argue over, are pretty inconsequential when you’re starting out.

          That said, I really like the SIG P320. It’s very accurate, good trigger, good sights, and you can customize the frame like a tailored suit.

          1. If you’re looking for concealed, I’d stay away from ‘service-size’ unless you find yourself wearing trench-coats or carrying a large bag most of the time.

            Most manufacturers make compact and sub-compact versions of their guns. Familiarize yourself enough with what features you want (SA or DA, Auto vs revolver, frame size, safety location, caliber).

            I’d never go for .22 if you plan on using it for protection, but as a purely practice gun, they’re great. Ammo is super cheap, provided you can find it. If it is primarily as practice for your Judge, then .22 wheelgun is the way to go.

            .380 is smallest I’d go for a gun that will be used for personal defense. But .38 or 9mm are better.

            9mm is ubiquitous, so ammo can be had anywhere and inexpensive.

            Make sure and practice with that Judge, too. They’re fun to shoot but can be a handful.

            1. Cont: Go to a gun store with a range and ask about trying some things out. Get a gun that fits you right.

        2. I’m a fan of Glock’s model 43, their subcompact slimline (single stack) 9mm if size is a major issue. The Glock 19 double stack compact is possibly my favorite pistol of all.

        3. IMHO a snub-nosed revolver is reliable as heck.

          Alternatively, something like a Glock G26.

          Get a caliber with cheap ammo, and practice, practice, practice.

          1. If you go with a snub, put a laser on it. The platform is much more accurate than the sights allow.

            1. The Ruger LCR can be had with an integral laser in the grip. Makes the thing silly easy to shoot quick and accurate. But get a shooting glove for practice because being so light the trigger guard will bang the snot out of your middle finger.

        4. For a compact 9mm I strongly recommend the Walther PPS. The only odd thing is the magazine release – on the trigger guard. But unless you are a seasoned shooter more accustomed to the typical button on the frame this is not an issue. Otherwise it shoots like a dream.

          1. Edit: Apparently the new model has gone with the more standard magazine release.

            Do check it out. When looking for a carry piece my wife demoed many compact 9s including Glock, Kahr, Taurus, and S&W and the Walther was the one that both felt best and gave her the best groupings. If I wasn’t so wedded to my Sig I’d get one too.

    3. Ruger SR-22

    4. I have a Walther P22 as well and like it. Haven’t had any problems with it, but don’t shoot as much as I used to. Stupid marriage…

      Also have a Glock Model 19. It’s still 9mm and holds a 15 round mag, but slightly smaller than the Model 17.

    5. Revolvers

      http://www.smith-wesson.com/we…..rrorView_Y

      You can get it in 22LR or 22Mag, 8 and 7 shots respectively. You can also get them with laser sights.

      Auto

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp6XUw0ZmDc

      This one comes in 22LR, 380ACP and 9mm Luger. Mine is in 9mm and I love it.

    6. I’m a bit late to this, but many centerfire pistols have .22LR conversion kits. Advantage Arms makes many for Glock pistols, and CZ has their Kadet adapter for their CZ 75/85 line. They are generally much more unreliable than their centerfire versions—part of that due to rimfire cartridges being practically more unreliable than centerfire—but this shouldn’t matter much for the range.

      Try a bunch before you buy. Many will recommend single-stack magazine pistols for CC, as they are usually thinner, but my fiancee hates the feel of most single-stacks like the Shield and Glock 43. I like Glock, but the grip angle and trigger are off-putting to some. The SiG P320 mentioned has the virtue of being very customizable: the barrel, frame size, and magazines are all interchangeable. So, in theory, you can have the same pistol be small for CC, but swap in a full size frame and barrel for target practice.

      I’d also recommend trying the exact pistol you’re thinking of buying before you buy it, especially for very small pistols. Kahr pistols are very tiny and accurate, when they work. Mine is a piece of unreliable shit, though more accurate than I am when it deigns to cycle.

      Minimum 9mm; .380 if you absolutely won’t carry a larger pistol. .380 will penetrate to the FBI standard 12 inches in gel or it’ll expand; it usually won’t do both. 9mm will easily.

      1. musta got one a them plastic Kahr guns. I see a ton of used CW models at Cabelas for very low prices. I’ve had a a pair of K 40’s. solid stainless, and they are indestructible, and reliable as all get out. The extra mass of all steel tames that forty round right nicely. Shooes like a low power nine, but is full sized forty.

    7. Be careful of falling into the smaller size = easier to control trap. Many women, and shooters in general, make the mistake that smaller for caliber firearms are easier to shoot when the opposite is true. For an inexperienced shooter I recommend you pick the largest size you can consistently conceal. Heavy firearms with larger grips actually reduce felt recoil and increase control. That gets more complex as you move up the caliber and size scale but pretty much holds true for .380, 9mm, .38 spl. The firearms blog did a review of common .380 handguns using inexperienced women shooters and the top performer was the Glock 42, the largest and heaviest of the bunch. It provides ample surface to achieve a strong grip and the weight reduces felt recoil. I own a G42 and can attest it is a great handgun as are all Glocks.

      Along this line of thought, be sure to handle any handgun you are considering. Better yet try to borrow one from a friend or rent one at a range and put some rounds down range with it. Familiarize yourself with the controls, reloading magazines, clearing misfires and clearing the weapon. If you cannot perform these operations on a given handgun, you probably should look elsewhere.

      1. Glocks are my personal favorite but they are certainly not for everyone. Glock relies on internal or natural safety devices. If you pull the trigger it shoots. There is no manual safety and they lack the heavy trigger pull of revolvers and semi-autos operated in single-action mode. So there is little feedback to prevent accidental discharge. Glocks are also overbuilt which makes them great for service weapons but not always the ideal choice for easy-to-conceal, use once in a lifetime, carry gun. So keep in mind comparable Glock handguns are virtually always bigger and heavier.

        Another note is that Glocks cannot, or should not, be fired with lead ammo. Copper jacketed ammo only which means a higher cost for any range practice sessions. I know some frequent Glock shooters get around this by buying a separate barrel and use that to shoot lead for practice.

        It used to be the case that revolvers outperformed semi-auto handguns on reliability but that is no longer true. I have 2 Glocks that eat any ammo I put through them but my inherited .38 Taurus frequently light-strikes resulting in mis-fires. Modern semi-auto handguns are very reliable and often accommodate more rounds than comparable revolvers. But a revolver is a fine choice too. Just find what works for you and do your field research! Good luck!

    8. I like the Sig 1911 style .22 pistol. Full length slide, very soft to shoot, very accurate, good size for everyday carry if that’s what you want (I’d not want a .22 LR for EDC….. I want quite a bit more authority in the unlikely event I’d ever need it. Sig’s Mosquito is nice, too, and I had one before the other came out. I like the 1911 style quite a bit better. Better balance. Both are spot on accurate. Roughly $350-400 new.

    9. I would suggest you reconsider the choice of .22LR for concealed carry, just because rimfire is less reliable than centerfire. However, I’ll accept that there is no absolute standard for the “best gun”; it comes down to which gun you can carry comfortably and shoot competently.

      One of my shooting buddies has a subcompact Sig Sauer 1911 in .280; it shoots very nicely. The Ruger LCP is also very small and easy to carry, but due to the light weight, it’s very snappy and uncomfortable to shoot. The Smith and Wesson M&P 9 is lightweight yet easy to shoot.

      As for me, I carry a CZ-75 Compact in 9mm. It’s hardly “compact” at all and weighs a lot (every part is steel except the guide rod and grips) but it’s a very smooth shooter. I also like the 14+1 capacity. I’m a somewhat bulky guy, so I don’t have much trouble concealing it.

      I carry it inside the waistband in a Tommy Theis holster (highly recommended, by the way). In the summer, I wear a button-up short sleeve shirt untucked, and in the winter, I usually wear a wool vest. You can actually carry a pretty large gun as long as you keep your waistband covered with some garment or another.

  15. Katie Couric is a dumb cunt.

  16. “And anyway, if she had wanted to make the VCDL look bad, “I would have focused exclusively on their radical ideology.””

    Yeah, that’s the ticket, you were actually doing them a favor by pretending they couldn’t answer your question, because you prevented the public from becoming indignant against their extremism. Let’s run with that!

    1. Re: Notorious UGCC,

      you were actually doing them a favor by pretending they couldn’t answer your question, because you prevented the public from becoming indignant against their extremism.

      Well, sure. It is a bullshit statement, but not because it is so flippant but because it makes absolutely NO sense. If she COULD make the VCDL look bad by focusing exclusively on their radical ideology, then why didn’t she? What stopped her from doing that? What was the point of the documentary if not to show the (supposed) fringe aspect of gun rights? Of course, it is obvious she couldn’t and so she had to resort to dishonest editing in order to show the gun rights advocates as unintelligent dolts.

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  19. “You can agree or disagree with that answer, but it’s an intelligent response to a good question. Yet the documentary omits it to make the VCDLers look like idiots.”

    Sorry Bart, it was not a good question. It is called begging the question, as in “Why did you stop beating your wife?”

    Q – “If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?”

    A – “There are background checks for everyone.”

  20. Hats off to the VCDL member who raised the ‘Prior Restraint’ aspect of the gun control crowd. I believe that is a line of reason / argument that might change a few anti-self defense minds.

    Might as well believe in a Dept of ‘Pre-Crime’, magically predicting who will become a bad actor in the future, all at the expense of people having a tougher time acquiring the means to self defense.

    No one calls you a nut for wanting a fire extinguisher on each floor or in the car. No one WANTS to have a fire. Its there in case the very unlikely bad thing happens. No one who chooses to carry the means for self-defense WANTS to harm anyone. To suggest that they do is bullshit plain and simple. How the anti-civil rights anti self defense LOBBY gets on about Rambo and Cowboys and stuff – bleeding out of….wherever….. is beyond me.

    No one calls you a wannabe fireman (‘scuse me = “Fire-HUMAN”) if you have a few smoke detectors or extinguishers.

    Yay VCDL members! Boo Katie Couric and that other liar. Documentary my ass.

    Gun Control is Prior restraint.

    1. That’s fire-PERSON, you heteronormative disgendered shtilord!

      /prog

      1. *cisgendered, damn autocorrect.

        1. I liked disgendered- what else would you call someone removing the twig and berries?

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  22. This is another crew – like the Clintons – that should be fearing a criminal indictment in its future.

    1. “This” refers to Couric & Co.

  23. She laments the way a “noisy fringe” has “been really successful in preventing our legislators from passing any meaningful legislation on this issue.

    Pore BAYBEE. Now can someone please riddle me this: since every mass murderer either bought his guns in compliance with existing laws, or in spite of them, then, except for I believe three such incidents, selected Certified Defenseless Victim Zones for hus crimes, violating THOSE laws as well, what NEW laws could possibly be put in place that would put a final end to all such crimes in the US? Even if you outlaw private possession of all guns, just as in Nazi Germany and Poland when Hitler sent round his minions to “Mr. amd Mrs Germany, turn them all in” not everyone did……. many keeping a few ‘off the books” guns against whatever opportunity might present… SOME will remain in private hands.Mostly those who already make a regular practice of ignoring laws.
    WHY is Australia observing a rapidly rising rate of GUN crime, when they were “all” surrendered?

    These people are smoking something illegal if they think one more law, common sense or otherwise, will end gun violance, as they call it. The issue is NOT the hardware…. it is ever the software, which is what directs the hardware to do whatever it does. Banning, regulating, background checking the hardware is dealing with the wrong side of the equation.

  24. Eventually, Couric summoned the grace to climb down. “I take responsibility for a decision that misrepresented an exchange I had with members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League,” she said last week. “I regret that those eight seconds were misleading and that I did not raise my initial concerns (about them) more vigorously.”

    And then she called for the VCDL answers to be edited back into the video. Right?

    Right?

  25. ‘”I would have focused exclusively on their radical ideology.”‘

    when this is part of your defense, you’ve pretty much eliminated any reason to believe you didn’t have an agenda.

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