Reason.com - Free Minds and Free Markets
Reason logo Reason logo
  • Latest
  • Magazine
    • Current Issue
    • Archives
    • Subscribe
    • Crossword
  • Video
  • Podcasts
    • All Shows
    • The Reason Roundtable
    • The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie
    • The Soho Forum Debates
    • Just Asking Questions
    • The Best of Reason Magazine
    • Why We Can't Have Nice Things
  • Volokh
  • Newsletters
  • Donate
    • Donate Online
    • Donate Crypto
    • Ways To Give To Reason Foundation
    • Torchbearer Society
    • Planned Giving
  • Subscribe
    • Reason Plus Subscription
    • Print Subscription
    • Gift Subscriptions
    • Subscriber Support

Login Form

Create new account
Forgot password

Education

The Greatest High School Graduation Speech So Far This Year

"Maybe, instead of taking a fifth field trip to the Trail of Tears site, take one to learn about real jobs in an area they might want."

Nick Gillespie | 5.17.2016 3:20 PM

Share on FacebookShare on XShare on RedditShare by emailPrint friendly versionCopy page URL
Media Contact & Reprint Requests
KFYO, iStock

Columnist and author Ron Hart was asked by a local principal to give a high school graduation speech. Which probably wasn't such a good idea, especially for kids who are used to being told that the sky is the limit and if you can dream it, you can do it.

His counsel for the top 5 percent is simply that "they do not need me telling them they can do anything. They get it." For the rest, his advice is more sound: "Students should prepare for a job. Maybe, instead of taking a fifth field trip to the Trail of Tears site, take one to learn about real jobs in an area they might want." 

Then there's this:

Unrealistic expectations may be the reason suicide rates are up among middle-age Americans, now outnumbering deaths from automobile accidents. Suicides among whites rose a staggering 40 percent from 1999 to 2010. This is the generation of ninth-place "participation" ribbon recipients who post a picture of the sandwich they had for lunch on Facebook.

Students are victims of a giant fraud: the government-run education system that has molded them for 12 gullible years. Public schools are government-run; teachers are government-hired; and government determines standards, pay, curricula and graduation requirements. Government seeks to produce compliant citizens it can someday rule without much pushback. Smart, independent thinkers are not wanted….

Few schools teach about the value of hard work, ingenuity, gumption and entrepreneurship. 

Read the whole thing here.

Hart's column put in mind of Mike Rowe's Reason TV interview, in which the former Dirty Jobs' host, now on CNN's Somebody's Gotta Do It, talked about what he sees is the systematic stigmatization of trade and craft jobs that are plentiful and well-compensated. I agree with Rowe that virtually universal access to higher education is a good thing—and it's also true that many kids are pushed into attending college whether they are temperamentally suited or prepared for it. The result of that is high student debt and unfulfilled dreams.

Take a look:

Full transcript and more here.

Start your day with Reason. Get a daily brief of the most important stories and trends every weekday morning when you subscribe to Reason Roundup.

This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

NEXT: Corn Yields Boosted 50 Percent by Biotechnologists

Nick Gillespie is an editor at large at Reason and host of The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie.

EducationStudent LoansCampus Free Speech
Share on FacebookShare on XShare on RedditShare by emailPrint friendly versionCopy page URL
Media Contact & Reprint Requests

Hide Comments (98)

Editor's Note: As of February 29, 2024, commenting privileges on reason.com posts are limited to Reason Plus subscribers. Past commenters are grandfathered in for a temporary period. Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment. Your Reason Plus subscription also gives you an ad-free version of reason.com, along with full access to the digital edition and archives of Reason magazine. We request that comments be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment and ban commenters for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.

  1. bacon-magic   9 years ago

    We don't need no education. - Pink Floyd, not afraid of double negatives.

  2. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

    Members of the Greatest Generation at age 19 were saving Europe from the Nazis and asking nothing in return. Now kids stay on their parents' health insurance until age 27. Kids are voting for socialist Bernie Sanders in droves, scared to death they may have to pay for something someday.

    ?

    1. Square = Circle   9 years ago

      The average age of a WWII soldier was 25.

      1. WTF   9 years ago

        What age group made up the largest cohorts of the US armed forces?

      2. Rhywun   9 years ago

        I hope that's what I think it is.

        1. Square = Circle   9 years ago

          N-n-n-n-nineteen. Nineteen.

          1. kinnath   9 years ago

            That was Vietnam

            1. kinnath   9 years ago

              I suppose I could have actually followed the link before I posted. 😉

          2. Rhywun   9 years ago

            For a war that was long over by the time of my formative years, it sure would not shut up about itself.

            1. Playa Manhattan.   9 years ago

              It's all Bush's fault.

            2. Homple   9 years ago

              To be fair, many of the people in that war had some profound experiences to relate. Admittedly not as interesting as your skateboard heroics but interesting to some nonetheless.

              1. Rhywun   9 years ago

                your skateboard heroics

                In my day, skateboards were for little kids. Nobody over 15 would be caught dead on one.

            3. Zeb   9 years ago

              WWII still hasn't shut up about itself either. Nobody cares about Korea.

      3. R C Dean   9 years ago

        The fact that the average age was 25 does not negate the statement that some of them were 19.

        1. Square = Circle   9 years ago

          But it does support the statement that the average age of the Vietnam soldier was nineteen.

          Nineteen.

          N-n-n-nineteen. Teen.

          1. Rhywun   9 years ago

            Destruction!

      4. You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)   9 years ago

        But they did fight free gratis, right?

        1. invisible finger   9 years ago

          As Ian McSwearengen said , "Yeah yeah, free fuckin' gratis."

    2. Gilbert Martin   9 years ago

      Whenever I hear the "greatest generation" phrase employed I wonder what exactly makes them any greater than prior generations who fought in the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the western pioneers who fought the Indians, fought in World War I, etc etc.

      As I recall, it was Tom Brokaw who made that up.

      1. Irish is a Millennial, Poll Me   9 years ago

        "Whenever I hear the "greatest generation" phrase employed I wonder what exactly makes them any greater than prior generations who fought in the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the western pioneers who fought the Indians, fought in World War I, etc etc."

        The fact their enemy was eviler. They basically get to say they're the greatest generation because they lucked out and got to be shot at by people who were really fucking evil as opposed to getting shot at by less terrible people.

        1. Lee G   9 years ago

          Attila the Hun has a sad.

        2. Gilbert Martin   9 years ago

          Most of them were drafted and most of those were in rear area support positions - not front line combat units.

          1. CE   9 years ago

            ironic, because now most of them need rear area support themselves.

            1. Trshmnstr, terror of the trash   9 years ago

              *steals Swiss' slitted eye gesture and directs it at CE*

              1. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

                Yeah, that's a good start. You're going to want full eye protection though.

      2. Square = Circle   9 years ago

        it was Tom Brokaw who made that up.

        It was, but in the context of the time they were "The Most Reviled Generation." They were the squares who hated rock 'n roll and supported the Vietnam War. From our vantage point now, they oddly look just like most everybody else - neither especially evil nor especially heroic.

      3. Loki   9 years ago

        Whenever I hear the "greatest generation" phrase employed I wonder what exactly makes them any greater than prior generations...

        Because "Nazis"?

        To me what makes them not so great is the fact that they were also the generation that gave us FDR's horseshit, and were really the first generation to look first and foremost to government for answers to all their problems.

        1. CE   9 years ago

          But who did they compare Hitler to? He was already Hitler.

          1. Loki   9 years ago

            Your grandma?

          2. Stormy Dragon   9 years ago

            I actually saw an article about this a while back. Apparently before Hitler the go-to "most evil guy ever" in the US was usually Pharoh (the one from Exodus).

            1. Gilbert Martin   9 years ago

              They never heard of Genghis Khan?

              1. UCrawford   9 years ago

                Hey, say what you will about the Golden Horde, but they had a very reasonable tax policy with an efficient enforcement mechanism. 🙂

        2. Square = Circle   9 years ago

          were really the first generation to look first and foremost to government for answers to all their problems.

          ^ This. They were the generation of Big Government if there ever was one. Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia were just the most rarified expressions of the zeitgeist.

          1. Trshmnstr, terror of the trash   9 years ago

            It's important to realize why. Prior to the "GG," news, culture, and morality were very much isolated to the local town or neighborhood. With the advent of radio and national-distribution magazines, the urban (progressive) culture of NY and Chicago was spread across the entire country. It didn't take weeks for news of whatever to spread to the podunk towns across the country.

            Anyway, with that power, the progressive elites sought to conform the entire country to their ideals, and were quite successful at it.

            1. Trshmnstr, terror of the trash   9 years ago

              As noted by Bobarian, the GG was politically influential in the 50s. Their parents and grandparents were the ones that caused the New Deal and all that other bullshit.

              It goes to show how quickly the US went to shit. It was shortly after the Civil War that the Constitution started to unravel.

              1. Stormy Dragon   9 years ago

                I think the real demarcation point was the "closing" of the American frontier in the 1890s. Before that, there was a limit on how intrusive government could get because people always had the option of pulling up stakes and leaving if they didn't like it. Once there was no uninhabited places left to go, that limitation was gone.

            2. Gilbert Martin   9 years ago

              "It didn't take weeks for news of whatever to spread to the podunk towns across the country."

              Before there was radio there was the telegraph.

              I imagine a lot of the podunk towns were hooked up to it.

        3. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

          Well to be fair, they were children when FDR fucked things up. In general, they may have voted for FDR for his last term.

          Their parents and grandparents are the ones who you can blame for FDR.

        4. Zeb   9 years ago

          Wasn't it mostly the previous generation that gave us FDR's horse shit? The people who were 18-25 during the war weren't voting much during most of FDR's administration. They did take it and run with it, though.

      4. Enjoy Every Sandwich   9 years ago

        My Dad was a member of said generation, and he was always puzzled by the "Greatest Generation" stuff. The way he saw it, he just did a job that needed doing and nobody deserved accolades for that. In his view that was simply what grownups did in the course of a normal life--whatever came your way, you dealt with it.

      5. Playa Manhattan.   9 years ago

        They sure did a shitty job of raising their kids.

        1. Square = Circle   9 years ago

          They sure did a shitty job of raising their kids.

          ^ This x 1000

      6. invisible finger   9 years ago

        I wonder what exactly makes them any greater than prior generations

        A few are still drawing breath, so there's that.

  3. Lee G   9 years ago

    I asked, "Should I tell them I hear the Monsanto plant is hiring?"

    "No," said the educrat. "Encourage them. Tell them they can do anything."

    "So I should lie? Have you seen most of these kids? They can't do anything. Most think Shariah law is a daytime TV show hosted by a no-nonsense judge."

    Sweet.

    1. WTF   9 years ago

      Dreams are a great thing, but you know something? They take a lot of energy. But that's OK. There's a job waiting for you down the block from your house that doesn't require a thought in your head or a hope in your heart. So come on down and work for the artificial flower factory. Why fight it? OK? Thank you.

      1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

        "If you can dream?and not make dreams your master;
        If you can think?and not make thoughts your aim;
        If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
        And treat those two impostors just the same;"

        1. Stormy Dragon   9 years ago

          "If you can dream?and not make dreams your master;
          If you can think?and not make thoughts your aim;
          If you can meet with Triumph and DisasterTrump and Hillary
          And treat those two impostors just the same;"

          FTFY

  4. Rhywun   9 years ago

    This is the generation of ninth-place "participation" ribbon recipients who post a picture of the sandwich they had for lunch on Facebook.

    Only if middle-aged has been defined down a few years. I think 47 is middle-aged and that doesn't describe me or anyone else my age that I know. *huff*

    1. IndyEleven   9 years ago

      Shhh. He's ranting.

      Better headline? "Old Man Yells at Cloud"

      1. Irish is a Millennial, Poll Me   9 years ago

        "Shhh. He's ranting.

        Better headline? "Old Man Yells at Cloud""

        Basically. Most people are idiots, so focusing on THOSE DAMN KIDS THESE DAYS does kind of make you seem like a fogey.

        Mike Rowe says basically the same things this guy says, but in a much more engaging, less assholish way. He also makes this a partisan issue which guarantees no one on the left will ever listen to him:

        "That sort of coddling false confidence is why half of American workers are unhappy and disappointed when they have to work hard at something. They inevitably view themselves as "victims" (a.k.a. Democrats). Intuition tempts us to call this "compassion," which is really feel-good lies fed to kids that take the onus off them and put the blame on others. It becomes a perpetual excuse."

        In the Donald Trump era, I don't think you can argue it's only Democrats who see themselves as victims, refuse to engage with reality, and scapegoat other people to avoid addressing their own failures.

    2. Lee G   9 years ago

      I posted my my most recent bowel movement on snapchat last month. Does that count? It's becoming a more and more important experience with each passing year.

      1. Playa Manhattan.   9 years ago

        Why wouldn't you do that here instead?

        1. Lee G   9 years ago

          Get with the times dude. Snapchat is where it's at.

          But maybe I should commission Sugarfree to write an ode.

          1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

            Kik is superior to Snap, you old geezer. You get with the times.

            1. Lee G   9 years ago

              WTF is a Kik? You damn whippersnappers should just get off my lawn.

              1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

                OMG u dont no kik? LOL! u r soooo old.

                jk ily. 🙂

            2. Juice   9 years ago

              But kik was around before snapchat?

    3. Square = Circle   9 years ago

      Only if middle-aged has been defined down a few years.

      ^ This.

      If people in their mid- to late-40s are committing suicide at higher rates, it's because we've been subjected the longest to Baby Boomers babbling about themselves. The participation-ribbon shit didn't really start until well into the 80s - the kids immediately behind us.

    4. CE   9 years ago

      Yeah, participation ribbons are for millennials and stuff.

    5. Zeb   9 years ago

      You think you are going to live to be 94?

      I figure optimistically that I'm about in the mid-point of life at 38. Of course I'm not going to start going around calling myself middle aged.

      1. Juice   9 years ago

        I'd better live to at least that old or I'll be seriously pissed.

  5. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Wouldn't would would would would wouldn't would wouldn't.

    1. Sevo   9 years ago

      "Wouldn't"

      I don't believe that!

    2. Mad Scientist   9 years ago

      Your standards are too high.

  6. Libertarian   9 years ago

    "Public schools are government-run; teachers are government-hired; and government determines standards, pay, curricula and graduation requirements."

    I remember Ed Clark (1980 LP candidate with VP Mr. Koch!) saying that we wouldn't stand for the government printing our books, but for some reason we think it's reasonable that government schools "educate" our children.

  7. Jerryskids   9 years ago

    virtually universal access to higher education is a good thing

    "Virtually universal access to higher education" - your first boss telling you "here's how I want this done" and then you doing it the way the boss shows you to do it. Show up on time, every time, clean, sober, ready to go to work, understand that your self-worth don't mean shit, you get paid by how much you're worth to the guy paying you. First day on the job and you've learned more than half the jackasses out there you're going to be competing with for a paycheck.

    1. Trshmnstr, terror of the trash   9 years ago

      *applause*

      Frankly, I think virtually universal access to higher education churns out a bunch of overconfident, undertrained children in adult bodies.

      If anything, higher education should be really hard to get into.

      1. invisible finger   9 years ago

        It is. You know how many facebook likes its takes to get into Princeton nowadays?

        1. Intraveneous Woodchipper   9 years ago

          Lul

  8. Rhywun   9 years ago

    the systematic stigmatization of trade and craft jobs that are plentiful and well-compensated

    Tesla has the answer to that problem.

  9. Irish is a Millennial, Poll Me   9 years ago

    "I agree with Rowe that virtually universal access to higher education is a good thing"

    Why? A huge percentage of people who go to college don't actually learn anything that renders them more productive and don't undergo a rigorous enough humanities education to get the benefits of the liberal arts. As a result, the country would probably be better off if fewer people went to college. Expanding the number of college students has heavily diluted the curriculum because they're chasing the lowest common denominator and people wind up blowing tremendous sums of money when most of them would be better off if college were reserved for people who needed to learn a STEM skill or who wanted a legitimately rigorous liberal arts education.

    1. Rhywun   9 years ago

      I read that as "access" meaning within reach if you're worthy of it, as opposed to the old days where you might be worthy but you had no access because you couldn't afford it, you were the wrong color, etc. Because the other reading makes no sense in the context of everything else I have heard from him.

      1. Irish is a Millennial, Poll Me   9 years ago

        Okay. Usually when I hear "we need to improve access to higher education!" they mean "we need more bad students to help with grade inflation while playing beer pong for 4 years!"

        1. Rhywun   9 years ago

          I agree & I read it your way at first too. Hell, "access" these days usually means "free shit".

          1. SugarFree   9 years ago

            Another word ruined by progressives, like "prolapse."

            1. R C Dean   9 years ago

              Dang, Sug. You are killing it today.

              1. SugarFree   9 years ago

                I credit a horrific lack of sleep.

    2. Square = Circle   9 years ago

      most of them would be better off if college were reserved for people who needed to learn a STEM skill or who wanted a legitimately rigorous liberal arts education.

      ^ This. Or just let the whole system fundamentally transform.

      Colleges and Universities the way they are currently structured are simply anachronistic. They are still fundamentally organized on the model of training younger sons of the aristocracy to be priests.

      I think if the whole sector were left free of government interference/subsidy, we would quickly see a rise in trade and technical schools (even for STEM), and separate, topic-driven adult education for humanities for those who are interested.

      We're already heading that way with the increasing popularity of community colleges. People get their technical degrees, get their jobs, and then when they hit their 40s often go "you know, I was always curious about Shakespeare, maybe I'll take a class at the City College . . ."

      Such a system would work infinitely better than what we have now.

    3. Pan Zagloba   9 years ago

      "access" to higher education does not mean going to college.

      On the contrary, you can get lectures from Ivy League universities at no cost. Some will also post supplementary materials, and you don't have to pay a dime for it.

      You can get education that way, just not credentials, or job skills.

      1. R C Dean   9 years ago

        Good point. I would say we are pretty much at access to higher education, as long as you don't confuse "educated" with "degreed".

  10. cavalier973   9 years ago

    ...kids who are used to being told that the sky is the limit and if you can dream it, you can do it.

    This is why it is important to show your kids movies from Pixar.

    In Monsters University , for example, no one works harder than Mike Wasowski at learning to be a Scarer (a sort of celebrity job that even has commemorative trading cards with the top Scarers' pictures and stats), but the reality is that he is just not scary.

  11. Loki   9 years ago

    Members of the Greatest Generation at age 19 were saving Europe from the Nazis and asking nothing in return.

    Hah! Nothing in return - except "hands off my Social Security and Medicare, you sorry little ingrates! And get off my lawn!"

    1. Pan Zagloba   9 years ago

      See, I watched Band of Brothers and I missed the part where they scream "Medicare!" as they jump out over Normandy.

      Fucking Spielberg, always ruining history...

    2. Zeb   9 years ago

      I assume they also expected to get paid and fed and have access to whores.

      1. Square = Circle   9 years ago

        I assume they also expected to get paid and fed and have access to whores.

        ^ This

        Don't know 'bout y'all, but my grand-dads joined the military in the early 40s for the lodging and steady meals. Fighting the fascists just sort of came along with it, but wasn't really the main goal.

  12. Loki   9 years ago

    We need to start teaching the tenets of economics so kids will stop being tenants in their parents' basements.

    This reminds of a something a teacher friend of mine once told me about. He asked a kid who was basically your stereotypical entitled millennial slacker "Have your parents finished their basement yet?"

    "No, why?"

    "Because that's where you're going to end up living in a few years."

    *mic drop*

  13. Trigger Warning   9 years ago

    One of my coworkers got a call from his wife last week. She doesn't know how to put air in her car tires and was stranded at a gas station. She has an advanced degree and credentials out the wazoo.

    Sure, he enables her, but what happened before that?

    1. Trshmnstr, terror of the trash   9 years ago

      Wow! That's fucking crazy. I mean, I guess I'd understand if she couldn't deal with a flat on the side of the road, but to not know where the air nozzle goes? Did she not have a bicycle growing up?

  14. Zeb   9 years ago

    Oh, good, another opportunity to make sweeping generalizations about generational cohorts as if everyone born in some time period is of the same mind.

    1. Trigger Warning   9 years ago

      ALL BOOMERS ARE SELF-CENTERED AUTHORITARIAN COMMIES

      1. Intraveneous Woodchipper   9 years ago

        You're not wrong.

    2. Trshmnstr, terror of the trash   9 years ago

      Oh, good, another opportunity to make sweeping generalizations about generational cohorts as if everyone born in some time period is of the same mind. grew up with similar cultural events and milestones that, while not the end-all, is certainly a factor to consider when looking at how societies behave.

      I don't think anybody here is dumb enough to think that every [insert generation here] is the same, but being able to talk in generalities is useful when it is truly descriptive. I don't know why that gets so many people's hackles up. Yes, as a whole, boomers act differently than millennials. Yes, as a whole, men act differently than women. It's not a crime to recognize those differences, while keeping in mind that they're just generalities.

      1. block30   9 years ago

        This. We're talking about the bellshaped curve, not the outliers.

  15. Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair   9 years ago

    K-12 is THIRTEEN years. Can no one do arithmetic any more?

    1. block30   9 years ago

      This also! Government Ed strikes again!

  16. ChelseaGilbert   9 years ago

    My best friend's sister makes $97 an hour on the internet . She has been out of a job for 6 months but last month her check was $15950 just working on the internet for a few hours.Go to tech tab for more work detail..

    .Read more on this web site...

    See Here Now.------------------------ http://www.earnmore9.com

  17. lukashik   8 years ago

    Now, coming to the Showbox app, this is another superb app developed for movie lovers who want to get a better experience of watching movies and tv show on a bigger screen with more detailings.

  18. lukashik   8 years ago

    And one of those applications is Showbox apk app. It is one of the best online streaming application for watching Movies and TV Shows. In the starting, this application has been released for only a few of the mobiles and allows users to watch shows online.

Please log in to post comments

Mute this user?

  • Mute User
  • Cancel

Ban this user?

  • Ban User
  • Cancel

Un-ban this user?

  • Un-ban User
  • Cancel

Nuke this user?

  • Nuke User
  • Cancel

Un-nuke this user?

  • Un-nuke User
  • Cancel

Flag this comment?

  • Flag Comment
  • Cancel

Un-flag this comment?

  • Un-flag Comment
  • Cancel

Latest

She Got a Permit for Her Chickens. Now the City Is Fining Her $80,000.

C. Jarrett Dieterle | 6.28.2025 6:30 AM

'We Can't Let These Sheep Go'

Fiona Harrigan | From the July 2025 issue

New Orleans City Council Considers Ordinance To Adopt Real-Time Facial Recognition Technology

Ronald Bailey | 6.27.2025 5:00 PM

Clarence Thomas Undermines Free Speech in Porn Site Age-Verification Case

Damon Root | 6.27.2025 4:00 PM

America Has Plenty of Experience With Government-Run Stores, and It Isn't Pretty

Joe Lancaster | 6.27.2025 3:40 PM

Recommended

  • About
  • Browse Topics
  • Events
  • Staff
  • Jobs
  • Donate
  • Advertise
  • Subscribe
  • Contact
  • Media
  • Shop
  • Amazon
Reason Facebook@reason on XReason InstagramReason TikTokReason YoutubeApple PodcastsReason on FlipboardReason RSS

© 2024 Reason Foundation | Accessibility | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

r

Do you care about free minds and free markets? Sign up to get the biggest stories from Reason in your inbox every afternoon.

This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged.

This modal will close in 10

Reason Plus

Special Offer!

  • Full digital edition access
  • No ads
  • Commenting privileges

Just $25 per year

Join Today!