Mixed martial arts

New York Is the Last State to End Ban on MMA Fighting Events

You are now free to beat each other up (consensually) around the country.

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It's another win for freedom—the freedom to consensually beat the crap out of each other in front of a cheering, paying audience. New York's Assembly, after deflecting the issue for years, has voted this week to end the state's ban on professional mixed martial arts (MMA) sports events.

Tuesday's vote marks the end of all state bans on the sport come August, assuming Gov. Andrew Cuomo signs the bill as he has pledged. New York was the final holdout and has been keeping this very popular, very mainstream sport out of the state for 19 years now (Read the history of New York banning MMA events here).

Although the bill passed easily (the major force keeping it from the Assembly floor was former Democratic Speaker Sheldon Silver, who was convicted of corruption), there were still government nannies who took it as a point of pride to say they should use their authority to control how Americans entertain themselves. From Gannett's New York reporting:

Some Democrats remained opposed to the measure, including Assemblywoman Ellen Jaffee, D-Suffern, Rockland County, who spoke out Tuesday against the violent nature of the sport. In UFC bouts, fighters battle in eight-sided cages, with the violent bouts frequently ending with bloodied fighters and a knockout or chokehold.

"Cage fighting, also known as MMA, has no place in a civilized society," Jaffee said on the Assembly floor. "It is a spectacle of violence. Except for those who stand to profit from this barbaric entertainment masquerading as a sport, cage fighting causes great harm."

Assemblyman Danny O'Donnell, D-Manhattan, was more graphic during the Assembly's debate, likening the sport ? in which fighters wear little clothing and frequently grapple—to "gay porn with a different ending." O'Donnell, who is openly gay, said money was fueling the effort to overturn the ban — both the lobbying funds spent by UFC and the money gambling interests stand to gain.

"Not a single person is harmed in this state or this country based on our failure to let them do this," O'Donnell said. "But if we do let them do it, more people are going to become addicted to gambling, more people are going to see violence, more people are going to turn to violence as a mechanism to express how they feel."

"Failure to let them do this" is a very interesting (and by "interesting" I mean "absolutely awful") way to describe using the force of law to threaten people with fines and arrest for doing things with their bodies that O'Donnell does not approve of. If only there were other examples of the government controlling what two men were permitted to do to each other because people thought it would corrupt society in a bad way.

But as a reminder, this sort of nannying was not just confined to the left. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) famously used his power to try to keep MMA fights off television. But the sport is now more popular than ever.

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    1. I am outraged by your outrage. Its like Gay Porn with a different beginning.

      1. As a yuuuuuge MMA fan, fuck you McCain.

  1. If only there were other examples of the government controlling what two men were permitted to do to each other because people thought it would corrupt society in a bad way.

    ZING

    Though I suspect, as is usual with politicians, that he may merely be a front for some special interest that has a financial or other reason for wanting to keep MMA out. Like boxing promoters, for example.

    *cough* Don King *cough*

    1. And not to mention boxing is much worse than MMA on the old noodle.

      1. Staff, please leave your penis out of this discussion.

        1. Not until you get consensus on that. *Waves his old noodle in the air like he just don’t care*

          1. Another day of maturation euphemisms ?

            Aye Carrumba !

            1. I’ll buy that for a dollar!

    2. some special interest that has a financial or other reason for wanting to keep MMA out

      It wouldn’t necessarily even be boxing. Boxing gyms have been expanding to include MMA training and would welcome a growing market.

      It would be every other form of entertainment in the state. Or it could be none of them, and these vocal holdouts are just upset they weren’t included on the list of people receiving “special considerations”. Being a trenchant douche in politics is a legitimate strategy all its own. Or maybe the upper-west-side moms who help fund his political career think playgrounds should be padded and “contact sports” like Tag be banned from all NYC schools.

      NY-state politics is like a libertarian emetic. Its best just not to look.

    3. That is probably Zing of the Year, thus far.

        1. Too bad this guy almost certainly won’t see the irony, even after being airlifted to the burn ward for emergency treatment from that masterpiece of a burn.

  2. “But as a reminder, this sort of nannying was not just confined to the left. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) famously used his power to try to keep MMA fights off television. But the sport is now more popular than ever.”

    John McCain is such a renegade. Some people make good decisions periodically, but John McCain refuses to ever make the right choice.

    1. He really is a giant douche. Who the Republican establishment thought would be a good Presidential candidate.

      1. MAVRICK

      2. A giant douche that was defeated by a turd sandwich.

    2. Even people incapable of independent thought who just vote on every issue along strict party lines are at least right occasionally. Even the broken clock is right twice a day, filling in all Cs on the test gets at least 25% correct, etc. It really does take incredible courage, vision, and determination to try your hardest and still be so far below statistical mean.

  3. to “gay porn with a different ending.”

    From Manhattan, huh? Proof positive that money doesn’t equal intelligence.

    1. Even 20 years ago there were poor, “working class” or worse neighborhoods in Manhattan. Those are mostly gone now, but there used to be plenty of them.

      1. Marvel sponsored a documentary about one of those neighborhoods that is currently being shown on Netflix.

        1. I’m two episodes into this season, and it’s good so far. I think Hell’s Kitchen hasn’t been actually like that for a long time, though I’m no West Side expert since I barely used to go over there. Except for Chelsea.

          1. I barely used to go over there. Except for Chelsea.

            My aunt and uncle went to NY on vacation a few years ago and stayed in Chelsea. She came back fuming that men were hitting on her husband.

            1. Those “men” were actually just Epi wearing his different levels of drag and disguises.

              1. I told you that in confidence! You said you wanted to learn!

            2. Why is she mad that her husband is hot?

              1. I think unpacking that would require a lot of couple’s therapy. She’s already overly inclined to be concerned with other people on her turf, and he’s got a long history of his best friends being gay (I made an off-handed reference to poppers when some of my cousins were talking about drugs and he perked up and asked if people were actually still using them). That’s not to imply I think he’s secretly gay, but while they’re both religious, he’s disproportionately blas? about the homos having been a waiter in NYC in the ’70s and she’s really uncomfortable with them (us?). And I think that causes tension.

                1. Oh, delicious. I hope you stir that pot.

                  1. I just try to look as confused and uncomfortable as possible when she starts talking about it. I’m 80% sure she sees any kind of friendly customer service from a straight woman or gay man as an assault on her home.

                    I think there’s also a subconscious loss of status with men being more attentive to him than her.

                    But yeah, going on a long tirade about why are all of these homos hitting on your STRAIGHT husband when you vacationed in a gayborhood to your gay nephew is awkward.

                    1. I enjoy making awkward moments more awkward. It’s one of the little pleasures in life.

          2. Back in the 80’s, while in college, some of my buds and I adopted a bar on the edge of Hells Kitchen.

            Traditional Irish drinking bar that served some highly questionable grub.

            I went there in 09′ and it was still a bar, but had been gentrified and was nearly unrecognzable. Dance floor and wood everywhere.

      2. Even 20 years ago there were poor, “working class” or worse neighborhoods in Manhattan.

        I might extend that to 30 years ago, but yeah, that’s over. The working class is entirely gone, but there are still lots of people on the dole who haven’t moved in decades or who are in one of the many public housing projects lining the East River.

  4. I love the notion of career politicians objecting to things as “corrupting society.” Don’t fret Mr. Politician, the gay heroin junky prostitute making porn, while cock fighting, with pitbulls in the octagon, isn’t nearly as corrupting as you. Your crown is safe.

  5. Oh my God, that article about John McCain has one of the dumbest comments I’ve ever read:

    “ed|9.20.07 @ 12:38PM|#
    Ironic how Americans shrug off this kind of brutality but flip out over dog fighting, e.g. the vilified Michael Vick. Both “sports” are disgusting, but where are our priorities?”

    Ed, you stupid goddamn slut, do you know how consent works?

    1. Think about the children, Irish.

      1. “Ironic how Americans are okay with people punching each other during consensual boxing matches, but flip out over random assaults. Where are our priorities?”

        1. “Ironic how Americans are okay with adults consensually having sex on video during porn films, but flip out over child pornography. Where are our priorities?”

          1. I think you might be thinking about the children too literally there, WTF.

            1. Hey now, I’m not Old Man With Candy!

    2. Quit stupid goddamn slut-shaming.

      1. Just what I’d expect a slut to say.

    3. He is probably the kind of guy that expresses outrage that Ceasar Milan let a dog bite a pig while eating his bacon and eggs breakfast.

  6. Assemblyman Danny O’Donnell, D-Manhattan, was more graphic during the Assembly’s debate, likening the sport ? in which fighters wear little clothing and frequently grapple — to “gay porn with a different ending.”

    That is…not inaccurate.

    But Mr O’Donnel should check out some straight BJJ if that’s what he’s looking for, because it’s so much more that.

    1. The judo gi cancels out the homoerotic overtones.

    2. Look at the BJJ expert and aficionado over here.

      1. Seriously there are basically live sex shows you can go to for free in semi-gross college sporting venues.

        1. Oh, so you’re too good for Tijuana?!?

          1. Not everyone shares your obsession with mules.

            1. IT WAS A DONKEY, DAMMIT!

              1. Figures you’d know the difference. I bet you can tell ewes from tups, too. But only from behind.

                1. Ewes don’t have those handy horn handles.

    3. Pretty sure I’ll get a visit from HR if I try to google straight BJJ. But he’s totally wrong. MMA is entertainment t for manly men, just like gladiator movies, submarine movies, pro football, etc.

      1. DON’T FORGET SOCCER
        *bumps someone on the street, goes to ground screaming*

        1. I got season tickets for orlando pride specifically because the women flop less than the men.

          *looks around for wife*

          Also some are the players are HAWT.

          1. And they’re good with the fundamentals.

    4. My parents were always deeply confused why I was so interested in the free showings of old UFC matches on Univision with Spanish commentary.

      Luckily with the advent of YouTube I have unlimited access to Turkish oil wrestling, which is way better.

      1. Your links are the only ones that distort my YouTube recommendations more than Heroic Mulattos.

        1. I can’t tell if that’s a compliment or not…I’m gonna go with yes.

        2. I won’t click on jesse’s links, and I’m the gayest monster since gay came to Gaytown.

          1. I would think swarthy men drenching themselves in olive oil and touching each other would be a comforting reminder of your childhood.

            1. TOO SOON

      2. I’m telling you, jesse, it’s better live.

      3. Turkish oil wrestling? Jesus Christ, these masturbation euphemisms…

        1. Euphemism? Damn near killed him.

      4. unlimited access to Turkish oil wrestling

        *reminds self to return to this page at home*

        But yeah I sat down and watched a whole MMA marathon one day. I’m not terribly interested in it but the assemblyman does make a good point about the sweaty grappling – it can be compelling.

    5. “…straight BJJ…”

      That thing you did, I see it.

    6. Ultimate Surrender, the gay version?

  7. “Assemblyman Danny O’Donnell, D-Manhattan, was more graphic during the Assembly’s debate, likening the sport ? in which fighters wear little clothing and frequently grapple — to “gay porn with a different ending.” O’Donnell, who is openly gay said money was fueling the effort to overturn the ban ? both the lobbying funds spent by UFC and the money gambling interests stand to gain.”

    ????????????

    I have so many questions here, like why a gay man would use gay porn as a pejorative.

    1. Because he’s being paid off by special interests, is my guess. If so, there would be an awesome amount of projection in his statement, which usually means that’s exactly what it is.

    2. Is he proposing a ban on gay porn? No. He’s been bought off by large sums of money from the gay porn lobby.

      Besides, I much prefer the ending of an MMA fight to that of gay porn. But I admit that it’s possible that I have not watched the right gay porn. I’m sure that Assemblyman Danny O’Donnell could point me in the right direction.

      1. He’s pointing you in a direction. But that’s not his finger!

      2. I dunno. Some people are just terrible prudes & they go into politics.

        1. Maybe Jesse can help us here. Is there such a thing as a gay prude?

          1. You could just ask Rhywun or Shackford, I’m not the only gay in the HyR village.

          2. Is there such a thing as a gay prude?

            Why wouldn’t there be? Not all of us wild hedonists.

  8. If you want more on the gay porn quote:
    http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/22/…..-gay-porn/

    1. So Rosie O’Donnell is his sister? That explains why he’s gay.

      On a related note, I am less ashamed for voting in Franken as our senator after seeing that NYC voters are willing to vote for the retarded brother of Rosie. At least we voted for the actual hack retarded pseudo celebrity himself and not his sibling.

  9. I love MMA. The UFC doesn’t have the obvious dives that boxing does and you can see your favorite fighter fight a few times a year. The nanny class just can’t stand seeing a dude put another dude in a rear naked choke or an arm bar without pissing their pants. Pass a law against selling loosies on the street? They send the thugs in. Difference is you can’t even tap out with those thugs.

    1. Holm/Tate and McGregor/Diaz event was worth the $9.99 PPV cost.

      1. It was nice to see McGregor get taken down a notch. He’s awesome, though, and will be back.

        1. I don’t get why he is fighting Diaz again. He needs to go defend his belt against Frankie Edgar or fight Dos Anjos and get the other one.

          I do love the attitude he brings though, dude is a character.

          1. Word is he can barely make the 145 cut anymore.

            1. That makes sense. He stacked on quite a bit of muscle to get to 168 for Diaz.

              1. Diaz just kept coming after getting hit. McGregor has the power to fight at that weight?

                1. I think he could, but as he himself admitted he has to be much more efficient with his power. He was missing way too much and trying for homeruns too much with the windmill kicks, etc.

                  I think the next fight would be different but I think the outcome would be the same. Either way I would love to see them fight again, it’s a fun matchup to watch.

          2. He wants to avenge the loss, which I can understand.

            1. Diaz has a cement chin. I don’t know if he can take him the way he usually takes people down unless he works the body more. He will never beat him on the ground.

              1. Yeah, he wasn’t really prepared to fight Diaz, who is a really tough guy with a great ground game. Without the advantage in power McGregor has against the smaller guys, he ran out of options pretty quickly. I think he wants to to be able to train specifically for Diaz, and try to redeem himself in a rematch.

          3. Nobody wants to see that rematch. He needs to defend or vacate the 145 belt. I am worried the UFC 200 line up is gonna be a disappointment.

  10. Most anti-Liberty state government?

    NY or CA?

    1. Also, meant to ask you if it is warm enough to fish up there yet.

      It is prime fishing season here but the damn water is up so high I can’t get anything to bite.

      1. I don’t follow. Fishing is a year round sport.

          1. Nope. Not even the little one.

        1. True, but catching them is mostly seasonal.

          BTW, how the hell do you catch bass in your rivers? What works here in La just doesnt work there.

          1. My best luck has been with shiners. My sister has good luck with artificial worms. I never catch anything with artificials, so I favor live bait in general.

            1. I tried everything but shiners. That explains it.

              Having a artificial worm creeeeeeeep along the bottom near sticks, weeds and logs works like a charm here. I tried it there…nothing.

              Then I would dive for a while and the damn Sante Fe was chock full of bass. I never could get them to bite.

              1. It’s funny how they can be different location to location. I knew a guy who fished in Cyprus swamps and swore by bouncing his worm of a Cyprus trunk and letting it fall in the water. He said the noise would prime the fish and they would hit the worm hard.

            2. I never fish with live bait. It’s a yuuuuuge mess , wasteful, and, most importantly, not much of a challenge. But if you are fishing for food, I understand.

              What species are you targeting?

          2. I going down to ft lauderdale in September for Mahi. I’m pretty excited for that trip.

        2. No. Ice fishing sucks. If I wanted to be stuck in a 4′ by 6′ enclosed space, freezing my ass off, while surrounded by a bunch of dudes, I would enlist in the military.

          1. Ditch the shack. Build a fire. Bring food. Bring even moar beer. Bring chicks to cook the food and bring you beer.

            Dude. You have no problem solving skills.

            1. Build a fire. Bring food. Bring even moar beer. Bring chicks to cook the food and bring you beer.

              Were talking about deployment, right?

                1. I HATED CENTCOM GENERAL ORDER #1

      2. We had a really nice day last Sunday. 71 and no wind (doesn’t happen often this time of year). I caught a dozen trout on a dry fly.

        But it snowed again yesterday. So it is hit and miss. If it happens to be a nice day…fish. If not…ski.

        But the big rivers are fishable wind-permitting.

        Our runoff is usually the third week in May-ish till mid-June-ish.

        1. Nice. Fly fishing is my thing. I love scampering up trees to unwrap my line from branches that tangled it up during the back cast. Or getting hit in the back of the head with a beadhead nymph.

    2. United.

  11. Assemblyman Danny O’Donnell, D-Manhattan, was more graphic during the Assembly’s debate, likening the sport ? in which fighters wear little clothing and frequently grapple — to “gay porn with a different ending.”

    I think someone is projecting his love of rough trade.

  12. if they want to make flyweight illegal for anyone over 5’8″, then i’m willing to listen. the desiccated zombie goons in that class depress me.

    1. AnorexicLeprachaunlivesmatter#

  13. My stepson is a big MMA fan. When he was younger he would have all of his friends over to watch the fights on our big screen.

    I would tease them by walking in the room, staring at the tv for a few seconds and then saying “I see y’all are watching gay porn again.”

    I would get lots of objections: “Awww man! Thats gross!”, “They are fighting thats not gay!” etc.

    Me – “I’m sorry, you are right. Dudes in their underwear oiling up and squirming all over each other, thats not gay at all.”

    Always good for a laugh with teenage boys.

      1. Right. Those team sports guys and muscley weight lifters smacking each other on the ass, thats not gay either. Totally not.

        1. It’s all gay, all the time.

  14. No mention of how Sheldon Silver and his cronies blocked this because of their hatred of the non-union Fertitta-owned casinos?

    1. Or mentioning the new york state lottery gambling

    2. Yep, that is the reason. Bing, bing, bing, you found the crony.

  15. What is wrong with you people? Only cops are allowed to choke people! Think of the children!

  16. You are now free to beat each other up (consensually) around the country.

    I’m pretty sure you’re only free to buy a license from the state for the permission to beat each other up under regulated conditions.

  17. If I was a top tier fighter, I would much prefer to fight in Las Vegas rather than share my purse with New York.

    1. Yeah, much bigger tax hit in NY.

    2. What color is your purse?

  18. “Cage fighting, also known as MMA, has no place in a civilized society,” Jaffee said on the Assembly floor. “It is a spectacle of violence. Except for those who stand to profit from this barbaric entertainment masquerading as a sport, cage fighting causes great harm.”

    Go fly a kite, Jaffee. The rigor of martial art, or combative sport, or anything similar is a forge in which men and women of ability temper their minds and bodies. It is one of the hallmarks of a civilized society. People with the pale, puffy mien of larval maggots, like Jaffee are hallmarks of a decadent, necrotic society.

    1. Damn, HM!

    2. Getting rid of everything that isnt fit for civilized society is something Jaffee wouldn’t like very much.

        1. So, the entire family are awful people.

    3. *Wild applause*

  19. The guy from Manhattan sounds like a social conservative which is a bit ironic

    1. Oh, there are a ton of conservatives here. Not conservative in the “Gold, gold, ‘n’ guns” sense, but conservative in that they never want to see anything change.

  20. The guy from Manhattan sounds like a social conservative which is a bit ironic

  21. I hate to play this game, but I think it’s appropriate here. Could you image the media’s reaction if not one, but two, Republican state representatives debated against on the assembly floor against something and their argument consisted only of “Ha! GAAAAYYYYY!!!!!“?

    1. It would be a national news scandal and proof of Republican bigotry and HATE SPEECH which every prominent Republican would be harangued about repudiating.

  22. Assemblyman Danny O’Donnell, D-Manhattan, was more graphic during the Assembly’s debate, likening the sport ? in which fighters wear little clothing and frequently grapple — to “gay porn with a different ending.”

    They left out the best part, which I heard on the news this morning. Before this, the good assemblyman went into some detail about the nature of the “hot, sweaty guys on top of each other”.

  23. The people like violence – so long as they are not involved. It is an affirmation of their status as moral, up-standing citizens and is promoted by government to help control them. We are here witnessing the start of the slide onto a world we have seen before in “Roller Ball” and “The Running Man”. Beware America, corporate power, through government, will turn you into robots!

    For those of you too young to remember these iconic films I strongly suggest that you watch them.

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