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Clinton and Trump: Triumph of the Baby Boomers?

Obama was born in 1961. But instead of moving toward a relative youngster, voters are going for candidates born in the 1940s.

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Neither the Trump fans nor the Hillary Clinton fans want to hear it, but the two politicians have more in common than either of the presidential candidates wants to acknowledge. 

He gave money to her foundation and her campaigns. Federal campaign finance records indicate that Donald Trump gave at least seven separate campaign contributions to Clinton's Senate and presidential campaigns, totaling $6,400. She attended his January 2005 wedding.

This is somewhat embarrassing for both of them. In the Republican primary campaign, Sen. Ted Cruz has used the contributions as a bludgeon to criticize Trump as less than an authentic conservative.

In a general election campaign, if Trump is the Republican nominee and Clinton criticizes him, as she did recently, as "un-American," Trump may point out that she was perfectly happy to take his money and even to attend his wedding. If Trump is, as many Democrats, most of the so-called mainstream media, and even some more excitable Republicans would have it, the second coming of Hitler, a past history as a longtime big donor to Clinton campaigns and charitable initiatives seems a strange back story.

Nor is the financial connection the only overlap between the two candidates. They both are trying to hide documents that their opponents would like them to disclose. Clinton wants to keep the transcripts of her big-money speeches to Goldman Sachs a secret. Trump wants to keep his tax returns a secret. Perhaps they can make a pact to disclose both documents on the same day—maybe late on the Friday of a holiday weekend in the summer?—so the negative impact of the news is neutralized and no one pays much attention.

Both candidates say they oppose President Obama's Trans-Pacific Partnership Trade deal, though some people expect Clinton to reverse course and support the deal if she takes office. Is a campaign position a lie if no one believes it to begin with?

Both candidates are running crude campaigns of demonization, blaming scapegoats for America's problems. Trump blames Mexican immigrants, Muslims, and Washington politicians. Clinton blames oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, and Wall Street.

Both candidates are cultivating the votes of unionized government employees. Trump is wooing the police, while Clinton is allied with teachers.

Neither Trump nor Clinton is at all serious about entitlement reform.

Both candidates want to build walls around America. Trump's famous wall would keep immigrants out. Clinton's "exit tax" would prevent companies that want to leave from being able to get out.

The hair of both candidates is the subject of endless popular fascination and, at times, derision. They both have children who married Jews whose fathers (Ed MezvinskyCharles Kushner) spent time in prison. Both of the children married people whose families were in their business; Chelsea Clinton married the daughter of a congresswoman, while Ivanka Trump married the daughter of a real estate developer. Both Trump and Clinton call New York home but also spend time at residences in other places. Both candidates are very rich compared to most other Americans.

Age-wise, they both are a kind of last gasp of the Baby Boom generation. I just finished reading an advance copy of Michael Kinsley's Old Age: A Beginner's Guide, and he points out that while seven members of the World War II generation were president, for a total of 32 years, "the boomers had just two presidents, Clinton and Bush the younger, over sixteen years, before the citizenry said, 'That's enough. Let's move on.'" Kinsley apparently did not account for the possibility that, after President Obama, who was born in 1961, the voters would turn the clock backward instead of moving ahead to a relative youngster like Ted Cruz or Sen. Marco Rubio. Trump was born in 1946; Hillary Clinton was born in 1947.

I'd had hopes that Michael Bloomberg would get into the presidential race and provide voters with an option other than Trump or Clinton, but Bloomberg decided to stay out of the arena.

Maybe the similarities between Trump and Clinton are an encouraging sign that, for all the polarization in America, there's more room in the middle of the road than anyone had thought. Or maybe Kinsley is on to something, and after four years of either one of these characters, the electorate will be ready to move on. Some of us feel that way already.

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  1. Well, the snapper fucked things all up. Time to bring in the more experienced fuckups to fuck things all up for a change.

  2. I’d had hopes that Michael Bloomberg would get into the presidential race and provide voters with an option other than Trump or Clinton, but Bloomberg decided to stay out of the arena.

    His not running was an explicit endorsement of Hillary. Bloomberg would have been Hillary without a vagina.

    Anyhoo, I think every presidential election is the last gasp of the sunset generation. Older voters tend to be two things: Voters and they like brand recognition.

    “But what about Obama?!”

    Obama had brand recognition. Democrats couldn’t stop touching themselves over Obama since 2004 when he became a household name in your blue-er households.

    I suspect we’ll be seeing this same article in 2024- except it’ll be the last gasp of the Xers, then the Millennials, and so on.

    1. What? But Millennials will never die!

  3. EVERY COHORT DESERVES ITS OWN PRESIDENT. IT’S JUST MATH.

    1. WHERE MY CO-GENERATIONALISTS GONE

  4. Trump is a populist demagogue.Hillary is Mr. Lizard’s evil twin.

  5. Yea, Bloomberg would have been a real great option to have, Ira. it’s a shame libertarians won’t get a chance to vote for him.

    1. Having two interventionist bobble-heads is better than one. CHOICE!

    2. Garden gnomes are forbidden to run for President.And he’s a evil one.Or he could be a leprechaun.He does have that evil smile.

      1. He looks like an evil limey garden gnome.

        1. Everyone know’s those are the worst.

    3. Yeah, despite him winning the ‘enemies of freedom’ contest here, I’m sure all libertarians would get in line to vote for him.

    4. Well, in his defense, he didn’t say “a great option.” Just, “option.” So he’s the best kind of correct.

  6. Unless of course, Cruz wins the nomination, in which case the narrative is destroyed. Mr. Trumpaluffagis doesn’t have this thing locked up just yet.

    1. But then you have fuckhead Rubio and super fuckhead Kasich staying in with no chance to win in hopes of convention shenanigans. And retarded Ohioians are rewarding Kasich for it. Cruz could win Ohio.

      1. Ot could have if Kasich wasn’t a piece of shit.

  7. And people act like Trump has the thing in the bag right now. He doesn’t. Not even close. If those dumbfucks Rubio and Kaisich drop out, Cruz will win. He’s only 90 behind Trump right now, but more than doubles Rubio’s.

    If the Republicans bipass not just Trump, but Cruz, they are just giving Hillary the election. But if Rubio endorses Cruz, he beats Trump fair and square without the need of shenanigans. And Rubio isn’t winning Florida. So hopefully after that he ends this stupid game and admits defeat. And despite The Jacket’s inane bitching, Cruz is the best we are going to get in this election cycle. He’s not a bad choice for a libertarian. I don’t expect his anti-brown people stance to hold come election time.

  8. Hillary/Trump are the skidmarks the Baby Boomers leave on the sofa before they go.

  9. Chelsea Clinton married the daughter of a congresswoman, while Ivanka Trump married the daughter of a real estate developer.

    Holy shit, Ira, you had me going for a second because I know crap all about Ivanka, but it’s just a typo. Or are you checking who read the whole thing?

    1. I dare you to prove that Jared Kushner is a man.

      1. I mean if it wasn’t Reason I’d wonder if it was some kind of ‘girly-men’ slam on their choices of spouse…

      2. Boom.

        Oh wait. I should have thought harder about this challenge.

  10. I’m in KC Missouri, so I’m voting tomorrow. Strategically.

    I’m not sure Missouri is terribly fond of Trump (Flyover Midwest Kansas, Iowa, Oklahoma, and Minnesota [thus far] weren’t), so we will see.

    1. +1 Chiefs last chance to let you down…

      1. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

        Oh, wait. Royals. 250,000 people, no riots. Cuz we’re nice that way.

        I can’t decide whether to write in Ned Yost or Andy Reid, honestly.

  11. Apparently Chelsea and Ivanka are lesbians?

    “Chelsea Clinton married the daughter of a congresswoman, while Ivanka Trump married the daughter of a real estate developer.”

  12. Boomers were born from 1946 – 1964. Obama is most certainly a Boomer.

    1. The only reason I came to the comments in this article was to see if anyone would point that out. Pretty late in the thread and mostly ignored.

      1. It suckered me in, Boomer, younger than Obama, older than Boomer Nick G.

  13. Trump is the gop Obama. No substance, lots of promises with no intention of delivering. Would be fun to see the reaction if he was elected when wall doesn’t get built, Obamacare gets expanded, and a few more trade deals go through.

    1. And that would be different than electing any of the others?

      The thing I like most about Trump is his insincerity.

  14. I’d had hopes that Michael Bloomberg would get into the presidential race and provide voters with an option other than Trump or Clinton, but Bloomberg decided to stay out of the arena.

    Really? Mister “No guns or big soda cups for you!”?

    Bloomberg is even more of a little tinpot authoritarian than either Trump or Clinton.

    1. He’s a parody of a Mel Brooks parody.

  15. Both candidates say they oppose President Obama’s Trans-Pacific Partnership Trade deal, though some people expect Clinton to reverse course and support the deal if she takes office. Is a campaign position a lie if no one believes it to begin with?

    Whether or not something is a lie has nothing to do with how many – if any – believe it.

  16. I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can’t believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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  17. I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can’t believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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  18. I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can’t believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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  19. I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can’t believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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  20. I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can’t believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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