Connecticut's Mom & Pop Booze Stores Want You To Pay More For Liquor
"You're either for inflated, artificially high prices, or you're against them," says defiant Gov. Malloy.
From a broadly defined libertarian perspective, Connecticut's Democratic Gov. Dannel Malloy is pretty meh, especially on taxes (he's for increasing basically all of them) and on Second Amendment issues.
But unlike a lot of supposedly small-government types with Rs next to their names, he's also worked to decriminalize pot in The Nutmeg State, and a while ago he signed a bill legalizing the sale of booze on Sundays.
Now, he's ready to liberalize the liquor market even more, by ending the state's 35-year-old practice of enforcing minimum prices for booze.
"When in doubt, stand up for the consumer," Malloy told The Associated Press.
He estimated prices in Connecticut are $4 to $12 more per bottle than other states. "And the idea that Connecticut consumers are paying so much more money for wine and spirts than are paid by the surrounding states is quite indefensible."
Earlier this week, small-store owners protested the change, saying that they wouldn't be able to compete with bigger stores and chains. And that what's best for them, as opposed to the consumer, should be first in the minds of the law:
Nelson Gonzalez, owner of The Grog Shop of Torrington, said the liquor industry is being treated differently than other industries.
"Connecticut residents go to Lee, Massachusetts to buy clothing,'' Gonzalez wrote to the legislature. "Why isn't the governor demanding that all clothing retailers lower their prices? I never see anyone pushing for lower gas prices, cigarette prices or other consumables that are of higher cost in this state. Or why do we pay a personal property tax on our car, boat or motorcycle when other states don't charge this tax?''
To which Malloy responded,
"Why would government force residents to pay artificially high prices?'' Malloy asked. "It's illogical and backwards. We need to be competitive with surrounding states, who have lower prices – and we need to let the market work instead of allowing backwards laws to remain on the books.''
Malloy added, "You're either for inflated, artificially high prices, or you're against them.'
Which sounds about right. And now, Gov. Malloy, you might want to get cracking on how to lower Connecticut's combined state-and-local tax burden, which at 12.6 percent is second-highest in the country. Like liquor prices, taxes can be inflated and artificially. And you're either for them or against them. Or at least that's what I hear.
Back in 2010, then-Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia had promised to privatize that state's publicly owned and operated liquor stores. He didn't get very far due to an unlikely coalition of religious legislators opposed to drink on moral grounds and glad-handing pols who wanted to keep a source of patronage jobs. Check out our Reason TV doc on the matter.
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Malloy added, "You're either for inflated, artificially high prices, or you're against them.'
YOU'RE EITHER WITH THE FREE MARKET TERRORISTS OR AGAINST THEM, GOVERNOR.
An updated version of Baptists and bootleggers doesn't seem like such an unlikely coalition to me.
Who wants to help me open a liquor store right off of 684, before the CT exit, or somewhere within close walking distance to various points on the New Haven line?
I'd rather be your nemesis.
The Blofeld to my Bond?
meh, more like captain planet to your corporate polluter. God that show sucked.
The Marty Jannetty to my Shawn Michaels?
The being competent at corruption to your Bob McDonnell.
This guy
The Ahab to your whale, homie.
Oh, I see.
'Sup?
Not much, bruh. Just keepin' it real, namsayin?
So you'll be chasing him around in a boat full of dudes trying to jam your harpoon into his blowhole?
Precisely.
Go on...
No, you see, Crusty's nostrils actually do merge into a single opening on the top of his head. Also, he is enormous.
Great White?
No, although he has been responsible for a number of deaths at '80s hair-metal concerts.
The Walmart to your Mom and Pop.
Fuck Bob McDonald. he completely reneged on his campaign promise once he saw the type of revenue VA was bringing in, not only do mar- up the booze but they charge a sales tax on-top of it. Just for that alone he deserves to be in prison and if I sat on the jury I would have no problem sending him there.
Wouldn't be surprised if more people stayed in state to buy their liquor after the law passes and the economically illiterate store-owners realize that they are making MORE money now...
Fucking tards....
Note that the argument being made by CT liquor store owners are the same arguments being made about Boeing and Ford when people call for tariffs and subsidies. CT Liquor Stores are being transferred wealth from their consumers to them in the name of "protection".
First scotch and now a post on all wine and beer,I'm telling you,their out to get us here on H&R.how in the hell an you take all the nut punches here with out booze?
The smoking lamp is STILL lit.
Good.
Perhaps you're in the wrong business? Perhaps you need to place your efforts towards endeavors where you are more efficient and can actually compete to bring value to the consumer...
...you piece of shit!
The way fir small stores to survive is to have a niche. Your Bud Light price may not make you money, but have rare beers that rhe bigs wont carry due to volume.
Or focus on having a excellent wine selection.
If all you are selling is Bud and Jack, no reason not to go to the big box.
Location is also important.
I do a lot of shopping at the neighborhood liquor store because I don't feel like driving a ways to get slightly cheaper prices.
Tell me how you really feel, Francisco. Don't candy coat it--because you know I'll just eat it.
Sorry, I'm just a sweet guy. I'll try harder to be moar direct.
There's a reason I used to drive to Sturbridge, MA and go to the huge Yankee Spirits there and stock up.
Because all the liquor places closer to you had your picture above the register with "DO NOT SERVE/SHOOT ON SIGHT" written on them?
Actually it's because it's illegal to sell alcohol to the mentally retarded in CT, but in MA they can't tell the difference.
"Nomaaaaaa!"
I hate to say it, but Hugh is 100% correct in this case. Enjoy it, Hugh, it must be a rare treat.
Hey, these days Hugh can get his shoes on the correct feet four out of five tries, so don't underestimate him.
So this is what it feels like to be right, huh? Gotta be honest, it's not that great.
Yeah, I don't really care for it myself.
+1 Ted Kennedy
When I was a yout in Chicago if you could be seen over the counter and had the $ you got what you wanted.
That and their selection was fucking huge. They should turn it into a chain and bring it to the south. Call it Confederate Spirits.
Yeah it was. It was the first place I actually found weird shit like mead. And at the time, they actually had some interesting beers, which was incredibly rare back then.
So, Danny, I take it you oppose minimum wage laws, right?
That's different because, um, because.
"Korporashunz aren't PEEPUL!!!1!!!!
Nelson Gonzales is an idiot. Nobody is going to force him to sell his liquor at lower prices. He can leave them the same after the law changes. And by the way, there is no minimum mandated price on clothing in CT either. So far as I know, the good citizens of that state still have clothing stores.
The liquor store owners in CT have always whined like this. "Don't allow liquor sales to 9PM instead of just 8! It'll 'force' us to have to pay our employees to work longer!" (that was an actual argument I've heard) and so on. Those little shits have enjoyed state-mandated competition hobbling forever and the only thing they know how to do is whine.
Is there an Uber for booze retailers?
Better question: will Uber run to the liquor store for you?
Pretty sure that holds true for liquor store owners in damn near every state, unfortunately. You can't sell alcohol here on Sundays because then they'd *have* to be open for another day each week. The horror!
Why does Governor Malloy want to kill children?
There's a disappointing lack of REGION WAR so far. Why isn't anyone calling out Yankees for being communist godless faggots?
SHUT UP YINZER
Because it's actually the Red Sox who are communist godless faggots.
Don't know about anyone else, but it's hard for me to get my region warboner on about Connecticut's stupid liquor store laws when I'm in PA with a state monopoly on liquor stores. Something about beams and motes. That, and region war is stupid regardless.
HOW DARE YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT BEER DISTRIBUTORS I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU
Jokes on you, I live in Scranton, death would be a welcome release.
taxes can be inflated and artificially
"Can"? Is there another way it happens, naturally?
"Hey, Comrade, How much do we charge for this booze?"
"Got me. Go ask that capitalist pig over there what he charges."
"Connecticut residents go to Lee, Massachusetts to buy clothing,''
And don't Massa. folk head to NH for liquor and cigarettes?
Can't anyone stay in one place anymore?
/Carly Simon sadz.
Generally we stick with Massachusetts for liquor, since they have better breweries/selection on the craft side than New Hampshire and the prices are pretty much even from what I've noticed. Yes on cigarettes though, if you're on the north shore.
Rufus, that's Carole King "So Far Away" (off the Tapestry album).
Argggghhhhh!
Why am I stupid?
Yes, thanks.
Just pulled out the album.
I think I've got give this place a break. Hasn't been a good coupla days.
Relax. Mistaking Carole King for Carly Simon is what is called a 1st world problem.
Malloy takes his first baby step down the road to libertarianism.
Just making it easier for his constituents to stay blotto over all the stupid things he does on a daily basis - and hoping that if they stay drunk enough, they'll never notice the new stuff.
When Georgia finally legalized Sunday package sales, it was the likker store owners on the "no" side (not wanting to have to pay to turn the lights on an additional 52 times a year), and the grocery stores and c-stores on the "yes" side (which were open 7 days a week anyway). Rumor was that it was a certain grocery store (where shopping is a pleasure) that was spearheading the pro-Sunday sales fight.
Since Georgia limits a package likker licensee to two likker stores in the entire state, even Costco and Total Wine, there are a lot of powerful mom-and-pops that Gov. Let's Make A Deal had to fight.
I AM NOT GOING TO DO THIS FOR CARLY SIMON.