Against Bombing Syria? Sexist!
Sure, these British female politicians voted to rain death on Syria. But back to the real issue: incivility on Twitter.

In progressive circles, "white feminism" is often used as a pejorative to critique the sort of bougie, classist, navel-gazing activism favored by folks like Sheryl Sandberg and those who think cat-calling should be criminalized. I think this column published by the Independent yesterday may be the platonic ideal of "white feminism." In it, writer Jane Merrick frets over the mean Twitter comments received by British female politicians who voted in favor of bombing Syria.
"The vitriol … over the Syria vote has been aimed at both male and female MPs," Merrick admits, "but it has been nastier, and more organized, against women." How exactly she measured this is unclear, but for the sake of argument, let's take Merrick's word on it for now. The fact remains that even if the pro-war women are getting more heat for their stance than the men, none of the examples of criticism that Merrick offers seem particularly gendered at all.
Merrick asserts that "the messages sent to women MPs have been more graphic, as if the trolls believe [women] will be more emotional and empathic, which is sexist in itself." OK, maybe so. But let's put this in perspective: these are messages concerning a major foreign-policy decision that could cost lots of innocent lives. Which is worse: war-mongering, or the slight sexism involved in thinking that appeals to women's humanity may be more successful than appeals to men?
To make the whole piece more ridiculous, Merrick spends some time bashing a grassroots, left-wing political movement called Momentum for "the vitriol" over the vote on bombing Syria (perhaps it "should be renamed Bromentum," she suggests). And yet, she admits, "no direct link can be proven between Momentum organizers and the keyboard warriors who tweet death threats and graphic pictures." So why make the connection, then? It's all "on the same spectrum of intimidation," you see.
The whole thing reminds me of the "Bernie Bro" hoopla over here. Apparently, some Bernie Sanders supporters on social media have been known to make sexist remarks, or at least remarks that have been read as sexist, about Hillary Clinton and her supporters. At the same time, some male leftist activists, pundits, and writers have expressed thoughtful and legit criticism of Clinton's views. Despite little to no evidence linking the two parties, an abundance of hot-takes appeared dismissing more-or-less all Sanders supporters as incorrigible misogynists.
The anti-Bernie-Bro brigade uses the language of social justice and feminism as a weapon to discredit those who oppose their politics, just as Merrick is trying to make anti-war activism into some sort of crime against womanity. It's misguided at best, and often disgustingly disingenuous.
But partisan hacks will be partisan hacks. What takes the Independent column into especially egregious territory is the severity disparity between the actions of the alleged sexists (sending uncivil tweets) and the actions of the alleged victims (enabling death and destruction in Syria—a proposal which ultimately failed, p.s.). The amount of privileged, narcissistic lack-of-perspective such a comparison requires is almost unfathomable.
Thankfully, feminist commenters at the Indepenent don't seem to be buying Merrick's load of crap. "I am a feminist. I am very open to discussion of the misogyny of the left," states one of many similar comments. "But do not for ONE SECOND start hijacking feminism in such disingenuous, smeary, weaselly ways like this article".
"I'm a woman and an anti-war feminist," reads another. "I don't give a damn about abusive tweets or e-mails you're getting. DEAL WITH IT. You're a politician and you have no problem voting for dropping bombs on women & children far from your safe political cocoon. Oh but heaven forbid someone dare send you an insulting abusive sexist message! Grow the hell up."
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But back to the real issue: incivility on Twitter.
Oh thank god... I was getting the shakes here.
How exactly she measured this is unclear
Some sort of Gieger Counter for offense particles, maybe. The Sphygwomanometer?
Do midichlorians have anything to do with this?
"The offense is strong with this one."
How can you administer a blood test to a tweet? By all the gods, you are a dullard.
I'll be whatever I wanna do!
Let me worry about blank!
Gutsy question. You're a shark. Sharks are winners, and they don't look back because they have no necks. Necks are for sheep.
I laughed.
Whew. I was hoping someone would get it.
LOL
I was offended because man was still in there.
True right thinking people know it should have been Sphygwomynometer.
You show me a woman who isn't emotional and empathic and I'll show you a man. Except John Boehner.
I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
Hillary Clinton
BOOM
+1 that's not a woman, baby!
I am pretty perpetually accused by people in my life of being unemotional and unempathetic. I'll cop to the first, though I think my empathy level's all right
As if being libertarian wasn't off-putting enough.
TIWTANFL
though I think my empathy level's all right
Well if you don't know what the problem is...
*slams kitchen cupboards*
I'll cop to the first, though I think my empathy level's all right
Translation: I understand what others are feeling. I just don't give a shit.
My kind of lady!
*swoon*
So, does that make Ms. Brown more likely or less likely to bomb Syria?
Also, is it Ms. Brown or Ms. Nolan Brown? I don't see a hyphen.
I don't know about Syria, but she bombed my heart.
(and doesn't care)
Brown! Nolan is my middle name.
Get the name right First or you are going to give her a case of the vapors.
Huh, I always thought you were doing the Facebook full name thing.
Aussie girl: [strong Aussie accent] G'day.
Jemaine: Oh... Hey...
Aussie girl: Jesus... Got a tongue like a badger's arsehole. What'cha doing there, big J?
Jemaine: Just talking to a friend of mine.
Bret: [over the phone] Don't talk to her! She's definitely Australian...
Jemaine: I'm not sure I got your name.
Aussie girl: It's Keitha.
Jemaine: ... Pardon?
Keitha: Keitha.
Jemaine: [confused] Keitha?
Keitha: Yeah, it's like Keith. But with an 'a' at the end. I was named after mi'dad.
Jemaine: Umm...
Bret: She's got a man's name!
+1 Marilyn MON-ROE
(Oh, and Keitha's angry roommates....the short one? YESSIREE!)
Translation: I understand what others are feeling. I just don't give a shit.
Damn, I guess that is kinda how that reads....
I have a feeling this describes a lot of us here.
[to the tune of "If I were a Rich Man"]
If I were a straight man...
Is being unemotional really something to aspire to?
If the alternative is irrational...
Emotion and rationality are not opposites.
They are also not friends.
There's a difference between being dispassionate and being unemotional. I think she probably means the former.
To a certain degree, yes. The ability to approach situations unemotionally is a very valuable skill. It's something that everyone could stand to work on, to be honest. I know I try to.
I disagree. The key is to inject your prejudicial emotions into every situation you find yourself in.
Passion is for lovemaking.
To a certain degree, I agree. There are some situations where emotions aren't needed. Doing math is a good example.
Emotions are a valuable tool. Like everything else, emotions are good in moderation. However, it is the only tool in modern society's toolbox, these days. People are unable to discipline themselves to move beyond teh FEELZ and think critically (mainly because they were never taught that discipline).
I agree that many these days only make decisions based on emotions. That is just as wrong as making decisions based only on rationality. There needs to be a mix, not always a perfect balance, but a mix of some sort.
There was a case study of a guy who had the emotional part of the brain damaged at some point. He had massive trouble taking action, because he would spend hours just trying to decide the right color pen to write his grocery list. Emotions are good for saying "good enough" to the rational side.
How emotion shapes decision making
The ultimate rebuke to Randroids.
? You are trying to be the shepard?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vMN5uQhF-Ro&t=100
I do my best to never strike anyone down with great vengeance or furious anger.
Merrick asserts that "the messages sent to women MPs have been more graphic, as if the trolls believe [women] will be more emotional and empathic, which is sexist in itself."
The projection never ends.
Nor do the projectiles.
"I'm a woman and an anti-war feminist," reads another. "I don't give a damn about abusive tweets or e-mails you're getting. DEAL WITH IT. You're a politician and you have no problem voting for dropping bombs on women & children far from your safe political cocoon. Oh but heaven forbid someone dare send you an insulting abusive sexist message! Grow the hell up."
Who vets these for authenticity?
Obviously you made that comment cause only a mean old libertarian would say something like that.
Authentic or not, it's brilliant. And I hate that you have to prove your bona fides before criticizing a politician.
"Don't Want to Bomb Syria? You Must Be a Misogynist"
Meanwhile, near the end of the article:
"You're a politician and you have no problem voting for dropping bombs on women & children far from your safe political cocoon."
Your self-awareness is the same as my donation: nil.
The second quote was meant to be: "these British female politicians voted to rain death on Syria"
At what point can we address the elephant in the room that a) feminism as an ideology has little to nothing useful to say about the real world as it stands, b) has little to no predicative power, c) has contributed nothing to solving problems in the here and now, and d) is far more interested in social signalling than resolving any of these deficiencies?
That is to say, that it is synonymous with Marxism in every other sphere where Marxism's influence can be felt?
WHY IS THIS EVEN A THING?!?!?!?!?!?
FYTW
Slow news day.
Surely a vaguely anti-war post about an inter-feminist catfight will rake in the donations.
It is a post that does not mention a certain presidential candidate, which is why ENB is a Reason treasure.
*shrugs*
Jane Merrick frets over the mean Twitter comments received by British female politicians who voted in favor of bombing Syria
Yeah, because mean twitter comments are equal to dropping bombs on people.
WORSE, Hyperion. They are WORSE.
All bombs do is kill people and destroy stuff. Mean comments cause hurt feelings. So yeah, the comments are worse. Far worse.
Speaking of bros, I've coined a new term. For the longest time I've been silently mystified about how male sports fans have evaded being called gay for wearing other men's sports clothing. I mean, wearing their boyfriend's football jersey is what the girls do. Anyway, I thought of a new term that pretty well, in my opinion, describes these men: Bromosexual.
Romosexual?
You leave Tony alone! He plays for America's team!
Want some crownies?
"Bromo-" would be a Greek prefix with the meaning of "stink" or "smell".
Great, so no conflict there.
I call them gay because they like to watch grown men squeeze into tight clothing and throw balls around like children, and then slap each other on the ass.
I'm proud to be gay then.
Fanaggot, if you want it to be pejorative.
"new"
Nice to see that somebody pre-posted my new term.
Is that new ?
Bromance has been around for a while.
Trump's on this Syria thing:
Donald Trump Wants Bill Gates to 'Close That Internet Up'
http://fortune.com/2015/12/08/.....-internet/
Shouldn't he be talking to Owl-Gor?
The first sentence of the article The Turd links to to attempt to smear Trump reads:
"The idea actually sounds similar to Hillary Clinton's."
Turd you would fuck up a wet dream.
Holey Shi-ite, Bill has been doing yeoman's work trying to bring the internet to a grinding halt since the '90s. What is Internet Explorer up to now 11? What more can Bill do?
Someone needs a twitter snuggle.
Nicole, you have some serious competition for being The Worst. We may have to institute amateur and professional divisions.
Do you really think she'd allow anyone to take her tiara?
as if the trolls believe [women] will be more emotional and empathic
I laughed
"Don't Want to Bomb Syria? You Must Be a Misogynist"
But if you do want to bomb Iran you might be a Beach Boy
That old joke, you're never going to give it up, are you?
We hear a lot about what *real* feminism requires.
I thought feminism meant believing that women are people (at least from the moment of birth)?
Pray tell, what else does it mean?
Look, I've given the accepted definition, here's the bumper sticker to prove it.
Well, it's the notion that women are people, and can immediately be collectivised for political and cultural warfare.
I guess there wasn't enough space on the bumper sticker for every explanatory detail.
*blocks Tundra*