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- President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
- Jeb Bush is now polling below Ben Carson in the Republican presidential contest. Scott Walker, meanwhile, says a a wall along the U.S. border with Canada is a "legitimate" idea.
- After a deputy was shot and killed in Houston, the Harris County sheriff blamed "anti-police rhetoric." Authorities already have a suspect, who has been charged with capital murder.
- At the MTV Video Music Awards, Kanye West announced he'd be running for president in 2020.
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- The space probe New Horizons is headed for 2014 MU 69, a comet in the Kuiper Belt.
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The space probe New Horizons is headed for 2014 MU 69, a comet in the Kuiper Belt.
Unless they build a fence.
IS THAT SOME SORT OF SLAM ON STAR TREK V?!?!?!?!
We don't talk about that!
Star Trek sucks,yeah I said it.
That one kind of slams itself.
Hello.
Hey Canada, Harper will kill your grand children:
http://bit.ly/1NS7sa1
Will you be training to scale the wall...or on building tunnels beneath it?
I don't know but Harper going off killing kids is a serious crime!
Ski jump over the fence, duh!
Or simply paddle your canoe across the BWCA and come watch hockey in Minnesota. Tundra and I will leave the light on.
The space probe New Horizons is headed for 2014 MU 69
Nice.
Nicccce.
President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
Denali, it ain't just a mountain in Alaska.
Eskimos have 27 different names for President
Is "shit head" one of them by any chance?
Are they all variations of Bush and Clinton?
So, he's basically saying let's just drop any name and go back to calling it "Big Mountain". Because, feelz, I guess.
Well, mostly because that's what most people call it already. I'm wondering how he figures the president is in charge of naming mountains, but McKinley was a stupid name.
It's just part of his 'fundamentally transforming America' agenda. He has to do it on his own because Red Sea.
This president is clearly scornful of all things Irish, likely to distance himself from his own roots in the O'Bama clan.
So, that's what they mean by 'black Irish'?
Yep. The clan from around Burnt Cork.
Meh. It's not like McKinley created the mountain, or was the first human to see it. While I'm not happy about the politically correct churning, this is fairly harmless and inexpensive compared to the many other forms of mischief in which government engages.
How much will it cost to replace the maps?
Has no one thought of the domestic violence this will lead to? It isn't hard to see how this will lead to a surge in ER cases to remove small plastic triangles from various orifices after family games of Trivial Pursuit turn ugly.
I think Congress should at least pass an unfunded mandate that the Trivial Pursuit company should have to replace all trivia cards - free of charge - that list the incorrect name of the highest mountain in N. America.
Or better yet, Liz Warren can sic her Consumer Protection board on the Trivial Pursuit company for not immediately replacing those cards in the first place. She can insist on a large class action payout.
By executive order, Obama will now be referred to as "Denali".
Obama the High One?
Eskimos? I'm pretty sure they don't live near Denali. It's the Athabaskan name. It's such a prominent mountain that I would imagine there are other native names for it as well.
Most people call it Denali anyway. But since when does the president get to decide what mountains are called?
Since FYTW has been brought to the next level by the current occupant.
I believe that USGS is responsible for maintaining the official names of topo features, so yeah.
January 21, 2017:
President Trump today announced that the former Denali (Mt. McKinley) will now be called 'The Donald'
He will have a giant neon "TRUMP" sign erected on its summit.
How big will it be?
Pretty large?
It's gonna be 'UUUUUUGE
E fucking NORMOUS.
Commerce clause.
Duh.
But since when does the president get to decide what mountains are called?
I'd rather he be doing figurehead type stuff than stuff that actually has an impact on people's lives. Best to just give him busy work until his term is up.
Totally agree. Hey, Mr. President, there are a lot of rivers and mountains in the United States! Get to work! You have a mandate!!
Yeah, this. I used to be upset by Congress wasting time and money naming post offices, but no more.
The linked story looks like the name was changed by some flunky in some government agency. It was name McKinley with the stroke of a pen, I see no reason it can't be changed back with a stroke of the pen.
Yeah, it's about the least bad executive action he could take. And I do favor the name change. But it has been my understanding that there has been pretty broad agreement that it should bechanged for some time, but that senators from Ohio kept preventing it somehow.
there has been pretty broad agreement that it should bechanged for some time, but that senators from Ohio kept preventing it somehow.
Democracy!
senators from Ohio kept preventing it somehow.
I'm guessing it's a big deal to Ohio voters and who cares what non-voting Inuits think.
Ohio can just rename Toledo or Dayton...
Never Cleveland, though, because some things just have to set the standard.
LCD
I thought we were supposed to stop calling them Eskimos.
Except the Edmonton Eskimos of the CFL of course.
They rock.
The preferred nomenclature is Polar Gook, eh?
I thought it was Ice Naggers.
they do annoy the shit outta me....
It's funny. From what I can gather, in Canada "Eskimo" is generally taken as some terrible slur, while US Eskimos don't seem to care and often call themselves that.
Two countries separated by a common language.
This 'slur' story seems to be false. There's an urban legend (or perhaps an SJW legend) that it means 'raw flesh eaters' in Cree (another local Indian group, not related either to Athabascan or Inuit) but apparently that's not true--you can read the long story in the Wikipedia entry on the origins of the name).
Interestingly, linguists (who generally try to be politically correct) call the name of the language family Eskimo-Aleut (Eskimo/Inuit is a sister-language of the language spoken in extreme Northeastern Siberia)
'Inuit' just means 'the people', a common language name (same thing for 'Bantu').
It's funny. From what I can gather, in Canada "Eskimo" is generally taken as some terrible slur, while US Eskimos don't seem to care and often call themselves that.
This is correct. Just don't call a non-Eskimo an Eskimo. I'm talking to you Ed, Athabaskan is not an Eskimo-Aleut language.
I am glad they officially changed the name, but it really doesn't matter because most people call it Denali anyway.
Athabaskan is not even Athabaskan any longer.
The Na-Den? language family also includes Navajo, which I find strange.
Well, I'm so ashamed of Minnesoda now. The DNC had their summer meeting here in Minneapolis and we were horrible hosts.
We totally didn't get around to changing the name of Lake Calhoun to something else. http://www.startribune.com/lak.....309249161/
Sure the DNC was nice enough to not point at the lake and go "Ewwww", but we all knew they were thinking it.
So I'm all for President Obama getting shit like this done!
His advocacy of federalism was as bad as his advocacy of slavery or something.
I was not aware of that, but if people insist... I will call it "Mt. Denali" because that is how mountains are referred to in my language.
+1
You said "mount" huh huh huhhuhhuh
Also, this might be a Canadian thing, but isn't the term 'eskimos' supposed to be really, really offensive? 'Inuit' has been the term we've been using for over a decade.
Nevermind, really should have read more of the thread, been covered.
Through the Secretary of Interior, since 1947. Generally, states chose the name and the Feds went along with it, but Ohio has been blocking it by putting votes up for consideration by playing the USGS policy of not changing names that were under Congressional consideration. The SOI can overrule the board if they do not resolve it in a reasonable time.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...../71426656/
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/U.....sec364.htm
President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
What if Denali self-identifies as McKinley?
According to the New York Times article, this is Obama's "latest attempt" to comply with a 2008 campaign promise to improve relations with native American tribes.
It only took him seven years to get around to it. And this is the apex of his efforts. Now that's what I call keeping the campaign promise.
Are you forgetting how he closed Gitmo?
Can we just revoke reservations already? I like my Indian casinos as much as the next girl, but having this separation is just silly now days.
More reservations please.
Aren't many of them established by treaty?
Aren't many of them established by treaty?
Yes.
Yeah, but it's not like the Feds ever gave a shit about a treaty with the Injuns.
Treaties can be undone. Everything has an out clause, nothing exists in perpetuity.
nothing exists in perpetuity.
The lawsuits from that action would.
How are you going to prove your hipster climber cred now? Guess we'll have to start calling Mt. Rainier Tahoma again.
Call the mountain Denali (which as Zeb points out is what most people call it anyway) and rename the park McKinley National Park. Every one is happy.
Or not. This is a silly thing for all but a very small number of people to get worked up over.
President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
When I first saw that headline yesterday, my first thought was that there had been a Confederate general named McKinley whom I'd never heard of.
McKinley was even worse than a Confederate general; he was a Republican. (Confederate generals were either apolitical or Democrats.)
Isn't the word Esk*mo racist now? I'm pretty sure it means you're a racist if you say that while being the wrong ethnicity. Can we have any sociology majors weigh in here?
Oficially change the national bird of the United States of America to fried chicken
sign the petition
He has a long way to go by the end of the day.
+1 watermelon Slurpee
I had the best fried chicken Saturdat that I've had in years. I was very happy about that.
How is fried eagle?
He's doing better. That peace pipe did singe his lips though.
It tastes like freedom.
It tastes like chicken.
There's a eagle nest on a island where I waterfowl hunt.It's cool watching then soar.If you an fool them and the blue herons the ducks and geese will come right in
Don't let the EPA know where.
Bullshit. They fly all over the Twin Cities. Millions of people have seen them.
They're not exactly rare, nationally. Regardless of what the EPA might say.
There's a nesting pair behind my in-laws' house in Florida. The gubment moved the nest a few trees over due to all of the bald eagle shit pouring down on houses, seriously like a quart or half-gallon at a time. (BTW, a google search of "bald eagle defecate" returns 0 results, therefore good band name.)
"Few people will ever even see a bald eagle..."
WTF?
"Few people who live in places that matter will ever even see a bald eagle...."
FTFY
President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
Why doesn't he just rename it Mount Redskins. Racist.
Jeb Bush is now polling below Ben Carson in the Republican presidential contest.
That must be how they would be ranked alphabetically, IN SPANISH.
President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
I guess Obama needs a legacy more than Ohio's electoral votes.
I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!
Did you burst through a door, Jack Nicholson in the Shining style, or maybe Kool-Aid Man, through a wall?
Kool-Aid man style!!! ALWAYS!!!
Oh yeah!!!
Wait, what about Meatloaf style in Rocky Horror Picture Show?
Spot the Not: parliament & congress fights around the world
1. In this country, a congressman decided to finish a heated discussion with another congressman with a punch in the jaw. He was suspended 120 days from the legislature for the violent act.
2. In this country, an MP ripped ripped a proposal out of another MP's hand and ate it to prevent a vote on the proposal.
3. In this country, politicians fought each other with smoke bombs and eggs.
4. In this country, the opposing sides are separated by a red line in the carpet. The red lines in front of the two sets of benches are two sword-lengths apart. An MP is traditionally not allowed to cross the line during debates, supposedly because the an MP might then be able to attack an individual on the opposite side. These procedures were made because the MPs were allowed to carry weapons in the past.
5. In this country, an MP was seized and held down while another MP farted on his head.
6. In this country, an MP was enraged by a group who began singing a leftist song. He seized a ceremonial mace and brandished it over his head.
5...I so want it to be true, however.
5. But I hope I'm wrong.
6. Only brandishing, though. Coward.
All of those sound like "Business as usual" in the Australian Parliament.
It is more fun to imagine all these acts taking place with all the participants holding a Foster's in one hand.
I see what you did there
5 is the Not. The rest are from Peru, Taiwan, Ukraine, and the UK.
Prize: I found a video where John Cleese and other Pythons defended their movie Life of Brian to some English clergymen. It in inspired a parody where some clergymen defended their mockery of Monty Python to a rabid Monty Python fan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUOfi-8Op1c
I'm disappointed you didn't include one Congressmember beating another nearly into a coma with a cane.
Again? /Rocky the squirrel
Clinton resets campaign strategy
So Republicans are terrorists, but the guys who killed Christopher Stevens (possibly with help of information from her unsecured emails or server) aren't?
possibly with help of information from her unsecured emails or server
Is there any evidence at all to back this up? Any?
Look, I dislike the Clin-ton as much as the next guy, but let's at least try to not look like crazy fringe-dwellers here.
Lack of evidence is not the same as evidence of lack. I'm sure the Clintonistas would very, very much like that topic to disappear from the popular discourse. By keeping it going we take the risk of looking fringey, but also increase the odds that people will keep questioning this.
Steven's travel and security plans were in her emails and stored on the unsecured server.
http://nypost.com/2015/08/23/h.....officials/
She was also forwarding this information to Blumenthal's private email which we know was hacked. There is a reason that this kind of information is supposed to be treated carefully - because it gets people killed.
I usually trust Napolitano. So, YES.
Hmm. Okay. It's still speculation, but at least there is a possibility. I'll reserve judgment until more information comes out.. if it ever does.
1 Fact: Hillary left information on Stevens' location and security unsecured in multiple locations.
2 Fact: Stevens attacked, captured, and executed in a well-coordinated attack by a group with good intelligence on the consulate.
Speculation: 1 and 2 are connected. Anyone other than Hillary it wouldn't matter in the criminal prosecution.
Republicans are terrorists that should be ashamed of their top candidate calling Huma's husband a perv.
Cause, even ISIS wouldn't stoop that low.
Everybody knows that Benghazi was just a bunch of overexcited protesters who were upset about a blasphemous video made by an American. Obviously, the US should repeal the first amendment to avoid such incidents, but at this point what difference does it make?
Slate says she's also trying to make this election seem like a coronation now. All these changes in strategy seem like the biggest indicator that she's actually in trouble.
I like how they assume "party of Trump" will somehow be perceived as worse than "party of Clinton".
When your only tool is a 'Reset Button', yeah, you're gonna use it a lot.
Charges dropped against Florida man who played Star Spangled Banner on 4th of July
Fuck. It's time to take the American flag down off my porch. God I hate the Jacksonville and surrounding police.
Charges dropped against Florida man who played Star Spangled Banner on 4th of July
Ha, good to see. This was about five miles from my house, so I remember the story well. The cops in Neptune Beach really don't have much in the way of actual crime to deal with, so stuff like this is how they kepe themselves entertained.
Generation Stress
47 and up are Boomers now?
Seems like they keep changing it. I thought the boomer cutoff was 1965.
I don't get that either. I thought the Boomer generation was cut off at 1962.
They're the ones with the heavy artillery.
I was born in 1970. I'm pretty sure when I first heard "Generation X" I was at the young end of the range, and now I'm at the oldest.
I was born in '71 and assumed I was gen-x. My birthday is on Thursday; please send gifts in lieu of well wishes.
I was born in '71 and assumed I was gen-x. My birthday is on Thursday; please send gifts in lieu of well wishes.
I have a gift card for Golden Corral that has your name on it. Should be arriving in your mail in the next day or two, just in time for you to celebrate on Thursday.
Wow, we have the same birthday/year. My long lost twin separated at birth?
I share a birth year with the Dark One?
Shit.
Racist motherfucker....
Racist motherfucker....
It's true, it's so true.....
*sobs quietly, issues mea culpa on tumblr account*
You fuck your mother?
No, I'm not Epi.
*shudders*
Bwa-ha-ha.
Meh. The post-WW2 birthrate didn't actually flatten out until around 1975. A more typical cutoff point is the mid-sixties when the birthrate went down to pre-WW2 levels, but it's complicated since pre-WW2 the birthrate was already trending up.
Yeah, ridiculous. My brothers and I range from 46 to 53 and none of us are "boomers". I'm guessing the idiotic ranges were devised in order to elicit the desired results.
No kidding Millennials are stressed. Have you seen what they go through on campuses?
NOT ENOUGH TRIGGER WARNINGS!
As for GEN X, we came in after the Boomers. We have an excuse.
I'm still so waiting for all the damn boomers to retire. Please! retire! We are all officially sick of you.
Eh, when they're retired they'll have more free time to be annoying.
Eh, when they're retired they'll have more free time to be annoying.
I can believe it on the millennial front. The job market is still murder, and we don't have comfy retirements to look forward to any time soon.
Shouldn't have voted for Obama then....
I don't know what you talkin' bout, I voted for Gary Johnson.
I didn't vote. I was too busy studying to cast a vote in the already decided election in Texas.
Millennials are obviously stressed because we can hardly leave our houses without a Reason pollster jumping out of the bushes and asking us our opinions on gay marriage or the federal deficit.
If Emily Ekins wanted to poll me I would certainly feel something, although I don't think I would call it stress.
President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
This honestly sounds like what I can only guess is the plot of The Chronicles of Riddick
I wonder what Chrysler has to say about this...
The space probe New Horizons is headed for 2014 MU 69, a comet in the Kuiper Belt.
Pending Pro L's approval, naturally.
Who in their right mind would want to keep Canadian actresses out of the country?
Woman, 80, trampled to death in Venezuelan supermarket stampede
Rush for subsidized goods sees 75 people injured as thousands besiege supermarket
Damn capitalist wreckers sullying Venezuela's perfect socialist paradise.
Capitalism: is there anything it can't do?
Aquirre, The Wrath of Groceries
AmSoc applauds. She was probably a kulak, or a wrecker.
The only problem is that the right Top Men are not in charge of the food distribution. They just need to Socialism harder.
"President Nicolas Maduro accuses opponents of deliberately stirring up trouble, exaggerating incidents, and sabotaging the economy to try and bring down his socialist government. "
If so, seems like they are doing a convincing job of it. Maybe they SHOULD be in charge...
Scott Walker, meanwhile, says a a wall along the U.S. border with Canada is a "legitimate" idea.
Keep your fucking syrup and hockey, hosers.
He also want's to deport Ted Cruz.
I was going to yell at you, Fist - but I figure I can start a second career smuggling Tim Hortons and poutine...so BUILD THAT WALL!
Islamic State Flips Gold Coins to Break Fed `Enslavement'
Does the coin have a head on one side and the body on the other?
*narrows gaze*
(late due to technical errors)
When they are eventually overthrown, I wonder what those coins will go for, as far as collector prices?
So even 8th century goat fuckers understand the concept of sound currency. We are so doomed!
See, we knew you Paultard goldbugs supported ISIS. /prog
^This. Goldbugs are terrorists and need to be droned (after their contraband is seized).
Not a bad idea. Metal coins have value even if the state minting them has credibility issues. Worst case you can always sell them in a currency you trust.
If they keep making decisions like this they are going to be here for the long run. It would be the psycho monsters that would establish a new country in my lifetime.
I buy silver and gold coins on a regular basis now.
This is ISIS's new silver coin.
wrong thread *holds up mirror, narrow gazes at self*
Thank you.
At the MTV Video Music Awards, Kanye West announced he'd be running for president in 2020.
The West v. Swift debates will be truly epic.
Just to reiterate, I adore Miley Cyrus's tits.
A Long Island educator alleges he was labeled a racist and fired for enforcing academic eligibility requirements for student athletes.
Man Busted After His Dog Tests Positive For Meth
I wonder if it's standard veterinary practice to check for meth when a dog comes in with those symptoms, or if it's a particularly meth-heavy region where they've seen this kind of thing before.
I suspect they have seen this before...
Moral of story. Never take dog to vet.
No, the moral is, take better care of your meth so your dog can't eat it.
The dog, named "Little Guy," was "extremely nervous and constantly paces and panting and restless,"
Should've named the dog 'Buscemi'
So, the dog was a terrier?
You're out of your element, Little Guy!
So, no doctor/patient confidentiality for vets, I guess.
My 9:23 below was supposed to be in response to this.
That was way too serious of an answer.
terrier mix...was "extremely nervous and constantly paces and panting and restless"
That is abnormal...how? (joke)
No. HIPAA only covers human patients. The vet might also have a mandatory duty to report in suspected animal abuse or neglect in that jurisdiction.
Criminal dog. Great photo.
The Reproducibility Project, the giant study to re-run experiments reported in three top psychology journals, has just published its results and its either a disaster, a triumph or both for psychology.
The full paper: Estimating the reproducibility of psychological science
Does anyone know if there is a way to donate to these guys? I'm behind monetarily supporting reproducibility studies.
If you want to help, Retraction Watch and The Center For Scientific Integrity has been on the case for years.
It's a shame the above story focused on psychology since everybody already knows those people are full of shit but the vast majority of all scientific studies are probably no less dubious. Many of us are aware that every time you see a headline about some new scientific miracle it's probably a crap article because science just doesn't discover new cures for cancer every damn week. It's a single study with some anomolous results that gets trumpeted as a breakthrough in science and nobody ever publishes the twelve follow-up studies that conclude the first study was wrong. And more and more it's getting harder to find anybody willing to do the 12 follow-up studies, some huge percentage of studies suggesting some new knowledge are never followed up on. They're too busy trumpeting the next new cure for cancer, and that's a lot of what's wrong with science as it's currently practiced. You get money and attention by making new and interesting discoveries even if you gotta fudge the data, nobody cares about studies that prove the null hypothesis even though knowing what doesn't work is an important part of finding out what does work.
Thank you for the information.
I should point out that the author of the study in Slammer's post runs the data side of the Retraction Watch project.
Derpy's Army Countdown: 13 weeks left
motivational thought: if you're going through hell, keep going
motivational song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y
Ran a mile in 6m50s yesterday.
OT: it must be hard to lip read a tonal language. I found a page for deaf Chinese people that talked about it.
DROP AND DO PUSH UPS UNTIL I GET TIRED!
/Drill Sargeant
He said deaf Chinese people. Yelling in English only works for deaf English-speaking persons or foreign-language speakers who can hear.
Did you watch "no time for Seargents"? Are you friends with your DI yet?
My maternal grandfather was drafted into the Army during WW2. For various reasons, he never got regular basic training. He spent most of his time doing illustrations for training manuals.
Anyway, when it came to light that he had never gotten basic training, he got a rushed course where a lieutenant drove him around in a jeep past an obstacle course and described it: "so over there, you'd climb that wall, then you'd crawl under that barbed wire, then..."
He had been living in Baltimore before he got drafted. On his forms, he put his home of record as Louisville KY, but for some reason, when they discharged him, they only gave him enough money to get back to Baltimore. He had to hitch hike back to KY. He hated the Army and said it was for slobs and morons. But he was absolutely in love with the Civil Air Patrol.
Andy Griffith at his finest; damn, what a great film. There is also a television adaptation starring Griffith which, I think, predates the film by a few years. I would also recommend See Here, Private Hargrove and Private's Progress
Thanks. I'll look for them.
I have maxed both push ups and situps, but never got better than a 7:15 mile pace. Good for you. Keep it up.
Don't believe the hype on Chinese. If it is SOOOO dependent on tonality, then 80% of the population would be incoherent, as they do not use a perfect Beijing accent. That is NOT the case. Even if someone has a southern accent here in America, you can still WELL understand what they say.
The problem for lipreaders in Chinese is probably the monosyllabic nature of Chinese and the speed at which a lot of Chinese speak.
I never heard of this problem in Japanese and I worked at a few deaf schools there. Makes sense, as Japanese is a more monosyllabic language than Zhongwen.
I am DLPT'd in both.
Oh, yeah, good run time too, BTW.
Japanese is a more *POLYSYLLABIC* language
^This. Once everyone figures out what is going on, they don't really use tones in normal conversation. DLI will still be wanting their tones though.
?????
Or the use of tones becomes much more informal and the words become more context based, at least in Mandrin.
^ True dis.
What you might be describing is your interpretation of tone sandhi. Nevertheless, research has shown for a native speaker of a tonal language, the toneme isn't a layer that is placed on top of the phoneme, like prosodic intonation, but the pitch contouring is considered part of the phoneme production of an utterance, just as much as place and manner of articulation, etc.
What you're saying is like if English speakers formally distinguish between vowel quality and quantity (e.g., bad, bed, bid, bud, bod), but when speaking conversationally, we reduce the vowel in all those words to the schwa (cuz, if I say "buhd", you know if I mean bad, bed, bid, etc.)
I LIKE IT!!!
The big problem for lipreaders in Chinese is that there's really no such thing as 'Chinese'. The different regions have languages that are as different as French and Italian. Some have four tones (Mandarin) while others have five or six (Cantonese). And the tones are different too.
What makes it weird is that they all write the language with the same symbols. But of course we all write numbers the same (mostly)--'6' is pronounced quite differently in French, Malay and Swahili, but written the same.
Don't you mean polysyllabic? Chinese is an analytic language; whereas, Japanese is highly agglutinative.
Fuck me you are right. Correction issued.
No need for fucking; I'm a happily married man. 🙂 But, yes, I can see how lip reading would be easier in a polysyllabic language. If I may ask, what did you do at the deaf schools over there? Can you sign in Japanese Sign Language?
I learned JSL a little bit, and could converse a bit with the kids. Not super hard, but is easier if you learn to spell out words in katakana/ hiragana (makes no difference in sign language) and it was really cool.
I was there to teach kids who are deaf how to speak English. How do you like bureaucracies on the other side of the world?
Doesn't everyone love standing in line for two hours for a clerk who looks up records in a file cabinet?
Did you get airborne in your contract? If not its not that difficult to pick up later if you are going to an airborne assignment.
...the Harris County sheriff blamed "anti-police rhetoric." Authorities already have a suspect, who has been charged with capital murder.
Sounds like the sheriff should let that suspect go. He already knows who did it.
With a New Sequel About to Hit Shelves, Stieg Larsson's Partner Fights for His Legacy
There is something I find darkly hilarious about this whole saga. The intersection of writing, feminism, progressive politics, inheritance law and Sweden is very entertaining.
But is there torture porn? I'm not reading it without torture porn.
Worst you are.
/Yoda
I'm sure reading it is a form of torture, but I am unsure if there is anal rape like the first novel.
Larsson's girlfriend was interviewed on NPR the other day. She didn't come across well. The money quote was how she turned down the Larsson's family's offer of $3 million because it was a pittance.
But given that it's Sweden, I suspect that this would have disqualified her for the dole, but not given her a better standard of living than she enjoys on the dole. Anyone know?
And how much would she have gotten after taxes anyway?
Not very much. I'd love to know if they calculated the amount required to achieve the scenario I outlined above.
....but since she's an actual communist it shouldn't matter to her, right? That money would go to pay for orphans, and old people, and Somali refugees.
My monocle plant gets alot of good work out of orphans. They put in quite a few hours before they drop dead due to hunger. (I mean I let the rain drop into a bucket for water. I am not inhumane!) But my old people don't do shit. I whip them, threaten their families, but nothing gets those lazy bums out of their hospice beds.
Does anyone have any luck with those Somalis?
According to her the only reason she didn't marry Larsson's was because Sweden would require them to put their residents on a public register, and they feared for their lives. Does anyone know if this excuse holds water?
It doesn't. They were together since 1974, and Larsson was a science fiction fanzine editor and graphic designer until he started working for the Searchlight Foundation in 1995.
They didn't marry because omg! patriarchy.
So basically she's getting a lesson in one of the major modern reasons for marriage. Why didn't this guy have her in his will at a minimum. Thirty years is long past the point they should have considered the possible death of one of them.
I think the word to use there should have been "inevitable".
He had last made out a will in 1977, leaving everything to the Communist Party. It was not properly witnesses and voided by the court.
As a good commie, why was he waiting until he died? Shouldn't he have been giving away his shit his whole life?
Because all good commies are loathesome hypocrites.
Philadelphia's plans for hosting pope are far from heavenly for residents
So where the hell are the American Atheists? Using taxpayer money to provide police protection. And of course we need to tell the Pope as he his motorcade is driving along the roads that "He didn't build that".
Planning ineffectual protests, as usual.
How is this any different than hosting the Olympics. Except this looks like it might actually pay off monetarily (with you know the pope paying for his own accommodations minus crowd security)
Well, it's a lot shorter than it would be for the Olympics.
I see this as a taxpayer issue, not an atheist issue. Doesn't matter who it is, they're paying to extra to have their city shut down for this.
Did the city invite the guy, or did he just say I'm coming to your city on x date prepare for the crowds coming to see me? It makes a big difference.
Actually, I do to. I generally don't care for the New Athiests. I don't care much for the Pope either. But he technically is a "head of state". But I just get pissed off when some "Top Man" comes to town and the city closes off whole sections.
Mayor Nutter. How appropriate.
If Heaven is so great, why are we spending so much money to keep Him from getting there?
Labour leadership favourite Jeremy Corbyn said the assassination of 9/11 mastermind Osama Bin Laden was a 'tragedy'
I just recently became familiar with this "arsehole". And I truly weep for the once "Great" Britain if this fucking moron is elected PM.
Federal Judge Orders IRS to Disclose WH Requests for Taxpayer Info
I won't hold my breath waiting for them to comply.
I'm sure they will appeal.
The server crashed, the requests were deleted, the hard drive was wiped, etc. etc. And nothing else will happen.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....EWOLF.html
I want one for my pug. If it would fit on a pug.
That'd make a nice belt for HIllary.
You'll be safer at night if your Dobie is NOT wearing a muzzle.
Spot the Not: torture & execution
1. nicknamed The Devil's Dancing Bear; he had a private torture chamber in his house
2. invented a death machine and became its first victim
3. invented the iron maiden after he got tired of other torture methods
4. His ancestry was 8 generations of executioners. He beheaded over 3000 people.
5. invented a torture machine that was shaped like his wife
6. invented a death machine to discredit a business rival
I'ma go wit 5.
6.
Number 6 is Thomas Edison - he invented the electric chair to prove how dangerous Nicola Tesla's alternating current circuitry was.
Or, possibly, he just took credit from one of his flunkies for inventing the electric chair, as was his m.o. Either way.
Didn't he debut it by killing an elephant?
*longs for the days when this actually was a free country*
Yes. He was a bit of a dick.
He had a road show thingy where the Edison people would show up in a town, grab a stray dog, and publicly electrocute it to show the dangers of alternating current. Asshole.
That is really kind of dickish...
Aww, Topsy...
I'm going to go with 3.
2 and 6 are true. In fact the guy behind 6 is a household name.
1 was the guillotine right? I know that 1 is true, I'm just not certain of the execution method.
3 is the Not. There is no evidence that the iron maiden was used or even existed in medieval times. All the versions that exist today are reconstructions.
The rest in order are Bishop Bonner, Perillos, Johann Reichart, King Nabis, and Edison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apega_of_Nabis
Jeb Bush is now polling below Ben Carson in the Republican presidential contest. Scott Walker, meanwhile, says a a wall along the U.S. border with Canada is a "legitimate" idea.
William Shatner exempted, of course.
Illinois lottery winners have to wait for payout due to budget impasse
At least when the mob ran the numbers game you got your payout.
Why it's just like 1984 where the only lottery prized anyone actually won were inconsequential.
That's funny considering they always tell us how the lottery makes money for the state.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that a $250,000 pay out is not going to be the life-altering windfall that Ms. Rick seems to think it will be.
Wasn't Harris County the department that unapologetically finger-banged a woman on the side of the highway because a deputy "smelled marijuana"?
I think it was Texas Highway Patrol.
Yup.
And all without a warrant.
It's all in the rhetoric.
I find it interesting a police chief doesn't see how shit like that erodes the public trust.
Valrico woman says she robbed banks to pay for daughter's graduation party
netting more than $6,000
Considering the enhanced penalties, including the possibility of club Fed, for bank robbery, I don't understand why the fuck anybody does it for such piddly amounts anymore. If you aren't masterminding a Hollywood plan whereby you make off with an entire safe full of diamonds or picking off the armored car on its last stop of the day, don't bother. Go knock over the 7-11 if you want some quick petty cash.
Banks are insured up the ass and the teller's who work there and hate their jobs are more than happy to give you the contents of the drawers.
On the other hand, the 7-11 clerk who came from Pakistan with nothing might actually kill you if you try to rob his store.
Of course both are stupid things to do that with high fail rates but I actually think banks are softer targets as long as you don't stupidly try to get into the impregnable vault or safety deposit box.
That's probably true, actually. Still though, it's not like back in the Willie Sutton days where you can make a big score robbing a bank these days, but the penalties from that era are still with us. The risk/reward ratio is out of whack.
If you one and done the bank robbery, odds are you will never get caught. It's the guys that can't stop with just one that end up get the bad end of the risk/reward stick. High school girls have robbed banks with a tube of lipstick and a note before, and they've never been caught because they stopped while they were ahead.
High school girls have robbed banks with a tube of lipstick and a note before, and they've never been caught because they stopped while they were ahead.
Preet Bharara would like a word with you...
Who is Preet Bharara?
A guy who doesn't like woodchippers
We'll let it slide this time, but you need to brush up on your Reason memes
http://reason.com/blog/2015/06.....les-speech
I get woodchippers. I just don't keep track of peoples names. I have enough trouble not calling the guys at work old guy number one and two.
In 1981 in Vergas, MN two guys tried to rob the local bank. They wore their blaze orange hunting gear and brought in rifles. The robbery went well, but when they left the bank their getaway vehicle was gone.
They had stolen a pickup truck the day before for the robbery. While they were in the bank, the owner happened to pass by and saw his stolen truck sitting there running. So he got in and drove it home.
The robbers were forced to try to flee on foot (while wearing blaze orange) and didn't get very far.
They ended up on my dad's caseload (he was a PO) and he said that if they hadn't had their truck stolen he was pretty sure they would have gotten away with it. They had planned to use the loot to pay for their tuition at Moorhead State. Like Illocust said, it was a one and done deal.
Umm... aren't you supposed to leave someone in the running vehicle? I think that person is known as the get away driver? Or is that just in movies?
Not everyone can afford a driver, check your privilege shitlord.
From what I can gather, robbing banks isn't too hard to do or get away with. A fact which banks and police make some effort to hide.
Based on Chicago scanner traffic, it happens kind of a lot.
My girlfriend applied for a job at a bank in Tucson once. It went well but then the manager told her that their bank gets robbed at least once every few months or so.
She did not take the job.
You just never go for the vault.
But with a holdup you only get what's in the teller's drawer, so a few thousand. Professional jobs where they go for the vault are much rarer.
For sure. I'm thinking of petty crooks deciding to get a little more ambitious.
I actually drove past a bank that had just been robbed the other day.
You don't get Club Fed (minimum security) for armed robbery. But, yeah, bank robbery is a federal bust, which doesn't preclude the state for also trying her for her actions under state law.
Under every teller station and desk there is a "hold-up alarm," which is easily triggered by an employee. If there is not a cop in the general area it is pretty easy for the bank robbers to get away.
Barack Obama, lowerer of oceans, saver of planets, renamer of mountains.
So 'Denali' means, 'High' or 'Tall'. They respected it so much that they spent two seconds thinking about what to name it.
What does McKinley mean? Probably something else boring and irrelevant.
I think the change is good, mostly because that's what most people call it anyway, and also because there is too much stuff named after presidents.
Don't get me wrong. McKinley sucks, too. The only thing with a politician's name on it should be colostomy bags.
mostly because that's what most people call it anyway
And when enough people call any white bread spread 'mayonnaise' we can change the definition of mayonnaise, too. But not until then.
+1 Mediterranean Sea
An awful lot of geographic features have simple descriptive names. Who's the genius who came up with "Rocky Mountains"?
At least when it's in another language, it sounds interesting.
That John Denver is full of shit.
/Lloyd Christmas
Shaggy.
'Like, this mountain is rocky, man!'
/Scooby giggle.
I like 'Shanghai' - it means "On the sea".
Yeah...to a native, Chinese city names must sound so boring.
Beijing - Northern Capital
Nanjing - Southern Capital
Chengdu - Became [the] Capital
Guangzhou - Guang County
Shenzhen - Deep Drainage Ditch
What does "Ordos" translate to?
Fukushima - Good Fortune Island
Sahara Desert.
The only real Denali
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....n-Fod.html
I am so in lust with her. Damn.
And he just looks like a greasy douchebag. I think she can do better.
From NYT comments about McKinley/Denali:
W Smith NYC 2 hours ago
"Obama has really come into his own as President since the 2014 midterm elections. He's being himself, speaking more freely, and doing things that all of us who voted for him back in 2008 had hoped he had been doing from the beginning.
Also, the name Denali is just sublimely beautiful and appropriate for such an awe-inspiring peak and environ."
He's like an onion that needs to be peeled and then fried in garlic.
Also a few Marxist references to over turning colonialism and such.
It's all in the name apparently.
Who cares if the world economy is collapsing and Iran is about to get the bomb. Obama renamed Mount McKinley and that is what really matters.
These people are fucking beyond parody.
John, meet Chicken Little. Chicken Little, meet John.
Hey, what is a few trillion dollars in Chinese equity and nukes in the hands of Islamic lunatics between friends?
The economy is always on the verge of collapse and Iran has been about to get the bomb for more than twenty years. I'm not worried.
No its not. The world learned nothing from 08 and the central bankers did nothing but reinflate the asset bubbles.
"The future's uncertain and the end is always near."
I say, let it roll.
Chicken Little has been concerned about an Iranian Bomb ever since the Ford Administration. I've heard politicians -- both DC and Middle East -- expressing concern about Iran's nuclear ambitions since the mid-1970s.
Looks for a bunch of kids named 'Denali' in the next few years.
Government fuels next housing collapse with unstable mortgages
...Since Fannie and Freddie guarantee 90% of US mortgages, private lenders will match their weaker standards. Many of these weak loans will, in turn, be securitized and traded on Wall Street....
...Starting in 2000, HUD announced it was jacking up the quotas for low-income borrowers to 50% in the interest of diversity, meaning Fannie and Freddie had to find a non-prime loan for every prime loan it acquired. HUD explained it wanted Fannie and Freddie to "become more comfortable with subprime lending."...
...In 1992, neither Fannie nor Freddie had any loans with down payments under 5%, Wallison notes. But by 2007, on the eve of the crisis, 26% of Fannie's loans and 19% of Freddie's had down payments that low....
...From 1997-2007, Fannie and Freddie acquired a combined $1.5 trillion in loans with subprime credit scores, and another $2.2 trillion in subprime securities....
...A 2006 Fannie staff memo is eye-opening. "Everybody understood that we were now buying loans that we would have previously rejected but our mandate was to serve low-income borrowers," it said.
"So that's what we did."...
Airing the depth of troubles at Fannie Mae
In 2004, before Fannie Mae pushed into riskier loans, the Department of Housing and Urban Development suggested the definitions were becoming fuzzy.
"As the GSE's become more comfortable with subprime lending, the line between what today is considered a subprime loan versus a prime loan will likely deteriorate, making expansion by the GSE's look more like an increase in the prime market," the housing department said in a November 2004 report.
WHAT YEAR IS IT!?
It's 2003 again isn't it? Can we at least not do a war in the Middle East this time around?
Nope, we are going to invade ISIS come next president, or maybe even sooner if Obama gets really worried about his legacy.
More like 2006 or so, economically, IMO.
The Real Winner Of Obama's 'War On Coal': George Soros
The real winner of President Barack Obama's so-called "war on coal" isn't the EPA, nor is it the natural gas industry. It's liberal billionaire George Soros.
Last week, Obama's EPA announced sweeping regulations for U.S. power plants, forcing them to drastically reduce carbon dioxide emissions 32 percent by 2030. The news sent shockwaves through the coal industry, sending stocks tumbling and forcing the industry's two biggest players to consider bankruptcy filings.
That's where liberal billionaire Soros steps in. In the days after the Clean Power Plan was announced, Soros bought more than 1 million shares of Peabody Energy and 553,200 shares of Arch Coal ? the country's two biggest publicly-traded coal companies.
Both Peabody and Arch Coal "have seen their market values plummet" due to "competition from cheap natural gas, new environmental regulations and a slowing export market," according to SNL Financial. Soros was able to pick up these coal stocks on the cheap, in part, due to Obama administration regulations targeting coal-fired power plants and coal mines....
All of those regs are going to either die in court or be reversed by the next administration. We are not going to shut the lights out no matter how much the Greens hope we do. Soros and Obama both know that and know that those stocks are going to go back up when that happens. The entire thing is nothing but a political stunt and a payoff to Obama's cronies.
Can we at least shut the lights out for New York and California? They support getting back to nature.
They might shut the lights off in those places. Understand, the will get turned back on.
If Soros was a real mastermind, he would have bought them before the announcement, not the day after.
No. He knows the regs are never going to stick and those stocks are going to go back up. So, he bought them the day after the announcement when they were at their lowest point. He did the same thing as buying Martha Stewart stock the day after she was convicted.
President Obama announced he would order Mt. McKinley in Alaska to revert to its Eskimo name Denali, ahead of a trip he is planning to the state next month.
Signal observed. All hail Obama.
The secret history of Y'all: The murky origins of a legendary Southern slang word
The phrase "y'all" might not simply be the shortened form of "you all" ? but something far more complex
This hypothesis rests on how closely linked Southern and African-American vernacular dialects were in the early South
Uhhh, you mean because most of the black people in the country at the time picked up English from... wait for it... southern whites on plantations? Jesus fuck, this is some kind of revelation?
It shows the need for a different word for second person singular and plural personal pronouns.
All y'all?
the more rural environment of Appalachia cultivated crossover between black and white communities
Um, except that slavery was not that common in the Southern Uplands (Appalachia). Slavery was much more common in coastal plain and piedmont areas where tobacco and cotton were farmed. Those upland farms were generally smaller, less labor-intensive operations such as horse farms and orchard fruits.
"From this day forth, all the toilets in the kingdom shall be known as...Baracks!"
Esposito: From this day on, the official language of San Marcos will be Swedish. Silence! In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check. Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now... 16 years old!
Fielding Mellish: What's the Spanish word for straitjacket?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci.....merge.html
Is that like a Muse song or something?
It is powered by two black holes 'furiously whirling' around each other.
I don't think I can be blamed for this one.
Yet...
Write for us something involving an giant double-ended space dildo.
You forgot to include a link to the image.
Neurologist Oliver Sacks died this weekend. So did Wes Craven, the horror filmmaker.
Done-in by the same serial killer that keeps killing the world's oldest person?
The Federal Reserve is likely to raise interest rates by the end of the year, despite pressure by some observers to delay the move because of volatility in foreign markets.
See "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" by Aesop.
I was thinking the other day about all the compound words formed by 2 nouns:
mouthpiece, girlfriend, fireplace, battlefield, windmill, catfish, bedroom, lighthouse, tombstone, rainbow, homeland...
You should drink more.
cocktail...
*applause*
narrowgaze
Yesterday, I had:
1. an orange-flavored IPA called A Hopwork Orange
2. Old Chub Scotch Ale
3. Blue Mountain Lager
4. Southern Tier 2X Rye
The Old Chub was the best. I don't normally like Scotch ales. Innis & Gunn tastes like Jack Daniels and pool water.
I tried a shandy yesterday. It was vile.
You need a *lightly hopped* beer, and a real limit on the amount of sprite.
Otherwise - yeah - gross.
I think about women, stereos, cars, and... uh, all the wonderful people on this site.
handjob, fistfuck, buttplug...
What are you doing, stepping on SugarFree's turf?
cocksucker, motherfucker, fatherraper, asshole, fuckbuddy
If you were thinking of the compound words in German you'd be pondering a bit longer. German has a nifty feature where basically any two nouns could in theory be joined together. Which works well to make German words seem more intimidating than they really are.
One of my favorites is the word for 'speed limit'; Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung
They also capitalize all their nouns, which is something I find to be, well, odd.
It is odd. But it did make it easier to read German as a novice methinks.
any two nouns
LOL. It's much worse than that, Freebie. Any combination of two or more nouns.
Ever ridden on the Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaft?
blowjob
And I'm guessing that most of those are older, anglo-saxon words. While old english did retain some of the german love for compound nouns, we seem to have an unspoken (!) two-word limit on that.
Doesn't the compounding tend to make the first noun an adjective describing the second noun?
We're now back to being at least as polarized as ever: Why the gun control tipping point hasn't happened yet
A cognitive psychologist talks about why changing minds on guns, even after public shootings, is so hard
They're having a rough time acknowledging public opinion is actually moving against them, aren't they?
"If only more would die, the bodies would finally be stacked high enough to really get something done."
Part of it has to do with the complexity. Presumably the problem is death by gun. But in every instance, it's a multi-causal situation, it's a nexus of a lethal weapon in the hands of someone who is disturbed in some way, out of control at the same time. So when you want to point to causes, depending on where you are coming in, you'll look at different aspects.
Which is another way of saying that the problem is guns are not the entirety of the problem and controlling them not to solution. Yet, this guy writes that without a hint of irony in an article about how we need more gun control.
Listen, and understand. That gun-grabber is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, EVER, until you are disarmed and helpless against the government.
That is their only agenda. Nothing else matters. That is all.
Maybe because people who don't want to ban guns have actually thought about things for 2 seconds and know that mass killings are something that can and do happen and have already taken that into account?
Why the fuck would you expect someone to change their mind after a shooting? Do they really think that people haven't considered that possibility before?
Or maybe it is the fact people are less fooled by the facile and emotion-laden arguments against gun ownership while their skepticism of the good intentions behind anti-gun legislation continues to grow.
Too many people openly want guns completely banned. It's hard to convince folks you just want small regulations when three of your buddies were just yesterday screaming about how we are the only modern country that allows private gun ownership.
Scott Walker, meanwhile, says a a wall along the U.S. border with Canada is a "legitimate" idea.
Sad how far we've come. For the US's 200th anniversary, the people of Canada gave us a commemorative book ("Between Friends / Entre Amis") celebrating the longest open border in the world.
http://www.fireflybooks.com/in.....entre-amis
For our 250th anniversary, we're going to give them a wall?
America's become an eyesore anyway. We'd be doing them a favor.
Funny thing is, the last time I was up there, I did a tour of Fort Henry in ON and they were still going on about the Americans plans to invade during the war of 1812.
1812 inexplicably takes up a lot of space in our discourse.
You know who else shot the deputy, but he did not shoot the Sheriff? wait...
Marley...no, wait, Clapton!?
No Clapton no cry.
What's the difference between a kilo of cocaine and a toddler?
Eric Clapton wouldn't let a kilo of cocaine fall out of a window.
I'll be here all week!
And probably the week after that.
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/213474/
One of the great lies of this century is that New Orleans flooded because the levies were overtopped by Katrina. That is not what happened. The brunt of Katrina missed New Orleans and hit Mississippi. In New Orleans, Katrina was no worse than a Cat 1 hurricane. And the levies held through the storm. The city looked to be okay when the storm ended. Then, the levies failed and flooded the city. New Orleans flooded because the levies were defective. It wasn't FEMA's fault. It was the Corps of Engineers and the crooked Louisiana politicians who put pork over safety and built defect levies that flooded New Orleans. In one sense, Katrina may have saved lives by having the levies fail when the city was largely evacuated. They were going to fail at some point and it would have killed a lot more people if they had failed when the city had not been evacuated.
Pfft, everyone knows the levees failed because Bush ordered them blown up.
The Corps is a political entity that works at the beck and call of Congress. To say that they are rife with cronyism would be an understatement.
The interesting thing is that the Corps now has an environmentalist agenda as well. They've been known to block highway projects over a few acres of wetlands. They're like a dysfunctional version of the EPA with bulldozers.
The worse part is how the media are such accomplices to it. The failure of those levies and the corruption associated with it should have been one of the great stories of the last fifty years. Instead of reporting the truth and getting a great story, they lied because it suited their political agenda. Journalists are scum.
That would take some work. Outrage and finger pointing is much easier and more fun.
IIRC, I remember it being reported in a special investigation after the fact that the CoE was at fault for defective construction.
Story didn't really get much traction after the fact, though...
In one sense, Katrina may have saved lives by having the levies fail when the city was largely evacuated. They were going to fail at some point and it would have killed a lot more people if they had failed when the city had not been evacuated.
I don't buy it. Things are much more likely to fail during extreme stress. Most likely those levies were going to fail during a storm, when people had been evacuated.
Either way, though, the political corruption was the ultimate cause. At least the replacement levies should be less defective since, presumably, there was more attention being paid to them during construction. One would hope, at least...
Sure they are more likely to fail then but the levies were defective. They were going to fail. Were they likely to fail during a hurricane? Sure, but interestingly they didn't fail until after Katrina had past. The point is they could have failed at any time and had they failed when the city was full of people it would have likely killed tens of thousands.
Cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good...
The levees had too much earth and not enough led.
The Corps wanted to put floodgates and channels to control the water going into Lake Pontchartrain - in 1965 after Hurricane Betsy hit New Orleans. The locals and the environmentalists stopped them. Interestingly, after Katrina the Corps went ahead and built the floodgates and I don't recall hearing shit about the lawsuits to stop them then. I would say it was far more the locals than the Corps at fault - New Orleans is a terribly shitty location for a city (as are most cities that served as ports back in the day when everything had to be shipped by water) but if you're going to build a city at the bottom of a bowl, it's better to divert water before it ever reaches the lip of the bowl rather than try to build a taller and stronger lip. But if you've got waterfront property threatened by the Corps and their plans for flood control, you argue for bigger lips.
My Daughter Was Killed By Gun Violence, I Will Do Anything to Stop It
Last Wednesday, my daughter Alison was brutally struck down in the prime of her life by a deranged gunman. Since then, I have stated in numerous interviews with local, national and international media that I plan to make my life's work trying to implement effective and reasonable safeguards against this happening again.
Which have absolutely nothing to do with how her killer got his gun. He passed a background check.
In recent years we have witnessed similar tragedies unfold on TV: the shooting of a congresswoman in Arizona, the massacre of schoolchildren in Connecticut and of churchgoers in South Carolina. We have to ask ourselves: What do we need to do to stop this insanity?
In my case, the answer is: "Whatever it takes."
That leaves a lot of frightening courses of action on the table, doesn't it?
He could have bought her a gun and got her a CC permit. Had she been armed, she would have had a chance.
How does being armed help you when someone shoots you in the back at point blank range?
He didn't shoot her in the back. She saw him and reacted in horror before he shot. Could she have been quick enough to shot him first? Probably not, but at least she would have had a chance, which is better than what she had.
From what I saw he stood there with his gun pointed at them for most of a minute before opening fire. They didn't notice him until after he started shooting. They only had a chance to recoil in horror because he missed his first couple of shots. They had no chance at all. Even if she was holding a gun instead of a microphone she would have had no chance. Sorry.
She reacted in horror to being shot. When you look at both films, there's just no way way she wasn't hit on the first shot. Though I think it hit under her front right shoulder, not her back.
John, if you watch the video there was clearly nothing she could have done. The first time she noticed he was there was after he shot her in the side. It was a total ambush of the kind having a gun wouldn't have prevented.
She would have been okay if she was like Wild Bill Hickcok, and quick drew her ivory-handled revolver that she wore on her gun belt.
Again, slim is better than none. I am not saying she had a good chance just some chance.
Fact of the matter is that if someone wants to ambush and kill YOU specifically, they are going to pick the time and place most advantageous to them and least advantageous to you.
Most incidents of gun violence/ self-defense are NOT quickdraw competitions.
She had the deck REALLY stacked against her - but if he had used a knife the result would have been the same.
Fact of the matter is that if someone wants to ambush and kill YOU specifically, they are going to pick the time and place most advantageous to them and least advantageous to you.
Yes, but that's not what he did. He wanted to kill her and the cameraman live on TV. If it was a pure ambush he would have done so when she was alone, most likely when she was walking to or from he car.
Oddly, if whats-his-name had gone for the old tried and true ambush in the parking lot, Alison might have had a better chance.
Asshole picked the time and place for his hit really well. All of his victims were necessarily focused on each other, rather than on the outside world.
She ran after being hit twice and the killer pursued her to finish her off. She could have returned fire at that point. Or pulling out a gun would have likely made him break off the attack. It's repeatedly been the case that fantasy killers , like Vester, flee at the first sign of armed resistance.
Cameraman was shot I the back. The reporter and the interviewee were looking at the guy as he walked up and seemed to have at least a moment to try to turn and run away.
This is why I always wear a PWND (Personal Weapon of Nuclear Destruction) hooked to a dead-man switch.
*jots down note to never harm 0x90*
+1 Raven.
I agree more people CCing is a good thing but in this case it really wouldn't have made a difference.
If you watch the video it was clearly an ambush made while she was talking to someone on live television. I don't see a way she could have defended herself so I don't think that's the best point to make on this particular subject.
No she probably wouldn't have had a chance. She never saw it coming because giving a TV interview is a circumstance where you cannot really have situational awareness. He could have killed her with an ax just as easily.
Condolences for the loss of your daughter.
Now fuck off.
^This.
Fuck off, slaver.
I posted this in another thread earlier, but it's worth repeating:
He's gotta arm himself against the imagined, hypothetical future threats from the VRWC, you understand.
So is he worried he'll be murdered by pro-gun activists? Was he born this paranoid, or was the paranoia the result of long term drug abuse?
Ugh, I am so sick of people using the word "reasonable" in public policy debates. It's become one of the most manipulative expressions out there.
From the same article:
Reasonable is whatever the Democrat supports.
Reasonable is whatever the Democrat supports.
Federal donation records suggest Andy Parker was a Republican, or at least supported a couple of them.
I believe he ran as a Democrat in the past.
Yeah, that's a bit weird. He also gave $5k to a Romney PAC.
More like $10k.
Sounds pretty typical for a Virginian. We're all purple down here.
"Common sense" is also a red flag. "I don't have an actual argument on the merits but I'm going to pretend that I do and that my argument is unassailable."
"I'm going to insult your morals and call you a monster, and you can't say anything about it because I have the high ground."
ugh, that reads like a DU post
So guns are okay for he but not for thee? There seems to be a lot of overlap between the 'stupid' and 'unprincipled' categories of people.
Throw in a good helping of irony in that he's getting a gun for self defense while blasting anyone who gets a gun for self defense.
It's astonishing he doesn't see the irony. Or he does and doesn't care.
Apparently he wants to add a question to the ATF application that says,"Do you plan to use this gun for self defense or to murder someone in cold blood?". That'll fixit!!!!
Well, my Connecticut CCP Application specifically asked what my reason was for requesting a permit.
I, like every other applicant I have ever asked, answered "Recreational".
Ah, I didn't pay close enough attention to why he wanted the gun. I assumed he meant he wanted some reasonable gun control laws and if the lege didn't by God pass some reasonable gun control laws he was going to go get a gun and start killing the bastards until they did.
I get sick of people referring to "that's just the world we live in."
When the fuck has the world not been violent?? Nature is brutal and violent, and so humans can be as well. So many people just seem to think because they live in the suburbs they are immune to violence. Or we should have "evolved" out of violence. People are people. They have always been nutjobs and evil fucks, and there always will be. Where possible, we punish those who commit acts of evil, but we should all try to be prepared.
That isn't to say we should be paranoid. Violent crime is down in this country. The odds are very good that a person won't be murdered or become the victim of rape or armed robbery. But it isn't sad that we should be prepared. It is simply the nature of living.
"My daughter was a victim of violence, so I'm going to make sure millions of innocents have violence inflicted upon them."
"No! No! not the whip!"
"Yes! The whip"
"No! No, anything but the whip!"
"Anything?"
"The whip! The whip!"
Because prohibitions have worked so well in the past, they will work this time just as well.
Is it bad that if I were the next President one of the first things I would do would be to rename Denali back to McKinley? I would do that not because I care what the name is. I don't. I would do it because it would be such a harmless and easy way to torture these people. The crying and gnashing of teeth over such an action would be delicious.
I wouldn't. I'd leave the precedent and just announce the end of Obamacare since that's all it take to overturn an act of Congress.
That and rename every park and mountain named after a Democrat.
the stuff Wilson signed into law is like 100 years old and he was white.
They'd have to re-do the entire map of West Robert Byrd Virginia if someone did that.
Yeah, it sounds like it makes you an asshole.
"Scott Walker, meanwhile, says a a wall along the U.S. border with Canada is a "legitimate" idea."
We discussed this last night.
Just put a line in the sand. Canadians will respect it.
Sand? How about the middle of Lakes Erie, Ontario, Huron, and Superior? How will anyone see that line on the bottom of all that water?
This requires better planning, Rufus.
Color it RED!
Buoys.
Surely we could get Obama to part the waters.
+2 Raquel Welch
From now on I would like you to refer to me by my original Latin name, with is Decorus Aspectu. Thank you.
University of Texas removes statue of Jefferson Davis from campus
A statue of Jefferson Davis was removed from its pedestal Sunday on the campus of the University of Texas at Austin, days after a court rejected an appeal from a Confederate heritage group.
Davis' statue will eventually be displayed in the Briscoe Center history museum on campus, which university officials said is a more appropriate place for it. The Briscoe Center has one of the nation's largest archives on slavery.
The statue has been a target of vandalism as well as criticism that it is a symbol of racism and discrimination. Confederate symbols nationwide are being re-considered following the recent mass shooting of members of a black church in Charleston, South Carolina.
"This is an iconic moment," said Gregory Vincent, the university's vice president for diversity and community engagement, according to the Austin American-Statesman. "It really shows the power of student leadership."
A judge last week ruled against the Sons of Confederate Veterans, which sued to stop the university from moving it.
Statues of other Confederate figures ? Confederate Gens. Robert E. Lee and Albert Sidney Johnston, and Confederate Postmaster General John H. Reagan ? will remain in their places on campus.
We have a bar in town named The Jefferson Davis Inn. I would imagine it is only a matter of time.
Students who want tax collectors to bristle with assault weapons and impunity are the ones who legally disarm the public and make it convenient for Manchurian candidates to gun people down. Interestingly, Jeff Davis was one of the few rebs who pointed to the tariff as the undiscussed cause of the Civil War. The US, in a recession as England withdrew investment to prosecute opium wars in China, attacked Mexico to gain gold in California. (Think Transvaal). The gold made conquest by war feasible, and another tariff of Abomination quickly passed the Red Republican Congress. Nullification had failed, albeit not entirely, so secession was the only escape from the high tariff exactions, hence the War between the States. When I was a UT student most of my profs were intellectuals of the looter persuasion. The Austin lynching of a statue of Jeff Davis, the tax resister, embarrasses but does not surprise me.
I imagine the job of "vice president for diversity and community engagement" pays six figures. What the hell does that title even mean?
I have obtained secret footage of Hillary meeting with her campaign advisers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry7PcYtKPhA
via drudge: Woman says estranged husband's twisted sex demands gave her PTSD:
Sounds like a typical Tuesday to me.
*outloud laughter*
is there something odd about that? *looks nervously around*
Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was America.
There's the most embarrassing part.
Wow, eesh, amazing how much damage a person can do after a breakup. I mean, seriously, she's estranged and they are taking her word as gospel as opposed to bitter ex.
It's interesting that she's exposing his harmless perversions as a weapon in the divorce fight. I can't imagine it would go over so well if she revealed that, say, he liked to watch gay porn while banging her or something like that.
I don't think this is even a weapon in the divorce fight. It seems more like straight up revenge. I'm not only going to divorce you, I'm going to try and ruin your political career as well.
they are taking her word as gospel
In the service of humiliating a member of the Cop-Industrial Complex, I am willing to forego asking too many questions.
If you are a women and can't tolerate kinky sex demands, you should either not get married or go find some gay man who needs a beard.
Guys vary widely in kinkiness level, or so I hear
... go on ....
A woman should do everything her partner asks, and if not she should just go cuddle a gay.
and the gay guy should just take it? Cuddle rape!
^^THIS^^
Every married person should be willing to try their significant other's kinks. (Up to the point where it may cause true physical harm! Like playing with knives or loaded guns or even choking if one isn't careful). Obviously it also should be give and take. And never forced. But if it means the guy cross-dressing or the chick wearing a strap-on, go with it. FFS life is too fucking short to be this uptight about pleasing your partner.
Absolutely. Any woman who thinks she can tell her husband know is kidding themselves. If you won't do it, he will find someone who will. A lot of women just don't understand men and don't understand that saying no to some sexual request is a real emotional issue for men.
Eh. I can understand not wanting to go along with someone's kink, for whatever reason. I like to think that I'm pretty cosmopolitan, but there are some games that I'm just not interested in playing.
That said, if the one partner can't tolerate the other partner's fetish, then they should be okay with that partner occasionally visiting a pro. Fair is fair.
You know what other President made a trip to Alaska?
President Hitler?
24 year old male shows tits at award show, america lets out collective yawn:
You leave Miley alone!
Wow, reek of desperation much?
To universal sighs of relief.
So. My ex-wife is probably responsible for the renaming of Mt. McKinley. True story.
They're in complete denali about this....
And I always support the taking a politician's name off of anything.
Question: Are the Harbaugh brothers jerks?
Warty laughs.
Lonely life of Roberto Esquivel Cabrera, the man with the world's longest penis
He should move to Vegas
Reverse donkey show.
?El Caballero!
*reluctant applause*
He is disabled, but I'm pretty sure he could get a surgery to fix that. Cutting on your junk isn't what I'd imagine as fun, but it would fix the problem. Or he could move to Vegas as a freak act like Lee G suggested.
You monster.
It's telling that the world's first penis reduction was only undertaken earlier this year.
I wonder how the doctor came up with a workable size.
half an inch smaller than his?
That was my thought as well.
How has a porn producer NOT contacted this guy?!?!?
Do your ears hang low...
"Six inches of me is still a virgin!"
Guys dick looks like Baja California. The longer I look at it the more I want to but a couple jet skis.
Someone may have posted this already, but Colin Quinn on PC culture
That was sweet!
I like that one, too. But here's the link I wanted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-rHqbp4vE
I watched that special (it is on Netflix). It was pretty good.
'We cannot be intimidated'
My daughter's brutal murder confirms whatever I already believed in the first place, and now I have a convenient moral bludgeon. DO WHAT I WANT
Yet another reason to hate parents. Trade your brain for a kid! Great fucking idea.
No collateral damage is acceptable. Brilliant. Ban peanuts, ban swimming pools, ban cars, ban horses.
A free society?
To be fair, they could have been braindead to begin with.
Parents often are nuts, though. Anti-vaccine people are another good example.
I don't know what makes people dumber, romantic love or a parent's love for their child.
Sex?
As long as you're honest about what you're getting out of it, sex is totally rational.
But then she wants your number or finds out where you live and it's all downhill.
This is why I only have sex in my car.
This is why I only have sex with my car.
Yeah, that, even separate from romantic love makes people pretty dumb.
And there are good biological reasons for all of it. Parental and reproductive instincts are pretty crucial to survival of the species.
We don't let the victims' families choose the punishment for criminals and do so for good reason. Grief tends to skew your sense of justice and common sense. For that same reason, we shouldn't let victims' families dictate policy. I can't think of a single good thing that has ever come about because of the family of some unfortunate victim campaigning for a new law so there "loss has meaning".
No. Your loss doesn't have meaning. It is a horrible senseless tragedy that you likely will never fully recover. Face that harsh reality and stop trying to take away everyone's rights in hopes you can get over something that no one ever gets over.
A good rule of thumb seems to be that any proposed law named for a crime victim, especially if it's a child, is a terrible idea.
Progressives would be the first to argue that the run-up to war after September 11, not to mention drafting and passing the PATRIOT Act, maybe wasn't the most considered legislative undertaking precisely because it came on the heels of a highly visible and upsetting national tragedy.
But standing on top of a few corpses waving their bloodied shirts and demanding repealing or seriously limiting a fundamental Constitutionally-enshrined right of the American people is just peachy, because there's just no time for debate.
Let's get rid of free speech too because how do you know someone might be driven crazy by what we're saying and go and kill somebody? And the fourth amendment? Fuck the fourth amendment, are you really willing to potentially let a murderer get away just because you don't want the cops to randomly search your home?
Not to mention the tenth. Reserved powers? To the states or people? States that want to bring back Jim Crow and slavery? People who vote for teathuglicans? That much discretion is ripe for collateral damages.
(Who am I kidding, the tenth is thoroughly gutted.)
Because so many children ask parents that question.
Only after a few years of progressive indoctrination courtesy of compassionate elementary school teachers. "Mommy, why are people destroying the earth?"
"Mommy, why are people destroying the earth?"
"Because we don't want our children to die of starvation, disease, or exposure, dear."
You've never told your child that he or she isn't the center of the universe?
No wonder your kid's a brat.
"Collateral damage" ? Doesn't seem like quite the right term.
"perceive to be constitutional rights"?
Bull. Shit.
So there are other people who don't think the second amendment is real?
Oh, good grief. The parents of victims of horrific crimes should always be ignored when it comes to policy proposals.
"how can you look your child in the eye and say we are willing to allow you to be collateral damage in order to keep what some people perceive to be their constitutional rights?"
I used to think this was a strawman argument, but I have recently seen some people argue seriously from this position. The problem is that it doesn't accurately reflect the real problem with gun control, which is that it doesn't work. So this presents a false dilemma. Shootings are not the cost of freedom. They're just life, and gun control makes the damage worse.
So currently, CA taxes the outfits that accept Medi-cal to fund Medi-cal (along with the feds kicking in a $B or so). Well, it seems that's not enough to get the feds matching money any more, since Medi-cal is now covering 12.5M CA residents, courtesy of O-care.
Surprise! We're gonna have to raise taxes! Now, how do we do that so it looks like we're really not?
Well, let's tax all the other medical 'providers'.
Ah: "If all health care plans are forced to pay a new tax, it is likely the costs will be passed down to customers."
Ya think?
http://www.sfgate.com/health/a.....474962.php
Clearly we just need more poor immigrants on medical to cover the shortfall.
China searches for wreckers and Kulaks to blame for stock market crash.
I think we all knew this was coming.
Instead of blaming their own bubble-blowing incompetence, Chinese American regulators seek scapegoats.
FIFY (see housing bubble crash, 2008)
Oh, yes. It's coming back to our shores soon enough when the junk bond/equity/subprime auto loan bubble bursts. The Fed will once again say that "nobody could have foreseen this!" and blame it on the market.
Well that is how China operates. You embarrass the party you lose your head. Fuck, if I was a Chinese business man I'd be looking to emigrate out of there.
Anchor Babies coming!!
"A new Cultural Revolution is just beginning that will get rid society of those who destabilize the market and spread rumors!"
I think I just read something recently where the Chinese government was telling companies there to focus on hiring more people. Somehow that was supposed to fix the stock market troubles. WTF? I can't find it but I think it was on Bloomberg.
Anyway, I found this:
Crazy Americans will buy anything
This is most definitely lol worthy.
"Last week, I took testimony from several young female workers from Shenzhen who said they were locked in a work room for 18 straight hours making inflatable Frisbees," Gao said. "Finally, the girls joined hands on the factory floor and began to chant, 'No more insane flying toys for Western pigs!' They quickly lost their jobs and were ostracized by their families, but the incident was a testament to China's growing disillusionment with producing needless crap for fat-ass foreigners."
God, people are terrible at picking out what is wrong with their lives, or this guy is missing what was really going on. I hope the girls were actually upset at the whole being locked in for 18 hours thing and not something as stupid as having a job making junk.
Check the source of "news item".
Oh nvm, thank god the thread is pretty much dead for the day. No one shall see me taking the onion seriously.
🙂
I took testimony from several young female workers from Shenzhen who said they were locked in a work room for 18 straight hours making inflatable Frisbees
Yes, go on . . . .
Anyone else watch The Admiral? It's South Korean starring the guy from Old Boy. It's badass.
Here's the descrip:
A turgid, foursquare naval epic, the South Korean drama "The Admiral: Roaring Currents" memorializes the 1597 Battle of Myeongnyang, in which the military leader of the title, Yi Sun-shin (Choi Min-sik, from "Oldboy"), with a dozen ships, held off an encroaching Japanese army.
turgid, foursquare naval epic
So SugarFree moonlights as a writer of movie blurbs?
Yeah, not exactly a ringing endorsement.
-1 rum, sodomy and the lash?
Anyone else watch The Admiral? It's South Korean starring the guy from Old Boy. It's badass.
I've been really getting into some of these Korean action flicks. The ones I've seen have been really well made. The best two I've seen so far are No Tears for The Dead and The Man from Nowhere, both directed by Lee Jeong-beom. Check 'em out, if you haven't already
I've seen The Admiral around in Netflix, haven't watched it yet. Probably will though, on your recommendation.
Are there subtitles in Murikan?
Are there subtitles in Murikan?
Yep. Though parts of No Tears for The Dead take place in the U.S., and some of the characters are American.
Yep, great recommendations. Saw both the movies you mentioned and another Korean one that I can't recall the name. Puts some of John Woo's action movies to shame, plus very good stories.
Flu is also good.
There's decent buildup and some infighting and other political intrigue. I feel like it would've benefited from being twice as long and deepened some of the characters. Maybe it's a cultural thing but it's certainly different than American action. Much more drama. 4/5 stars.
Kinda funny is that the Japanese in Shogun gave passing reference to the Koreans as primitives waiting to be kicked. Yet..
Japanese ships of the time typically relied on arrows and the occasional arquebus for ranged attacks until they could get close enough for boarding action. Korean turtleships, on the other hand, carried very large cannons and incendiary rockets and were fast enough to stay out of the range of grappling hooks.
I like the SK take on the horror/serial killer story, something they have a uh, special affinity for:
I Saw The Devil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwWgp1bqVwE
The Chaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKWpmWogo3s
Memories of Murder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnyhLywdJc
I saw the Devil was terrific and scary sad.
I haven't seen The Admiral but I enjoy the Korean flicks so I'll check it out. Thanks.
I recommend Silmido and Thirst if you haven't seen those.
War of the Arrows is also a good SK historical flick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDyIjb272kU
I just caught that.
Pretty entertaining. I do like those Asian historical/action epics.
That's really going to fuck up the International Peace Garden.
Maybe "legitimate" just means it is something that the human mind is capable of conceiving. That's the most charitable interpretation I can come up with.
Me too. A legitimate idea can still be horrible.
The things we learn about these two countries.
Meh.
BUST THE JOINT UP.
After having actually watched the clip where walker talks about the Canada border issue... I'm calling bullshit on all this frothing about how he's advocating a wall.
he never even said, "Idea". He said border security was an issue lots of people were talking about.... "even in New Hampshire". Its not even clear he was carrying forward the point that the interviewer was probing for, re: Canada.
as MJ Green? said the other day....it was a non-answer that has been enlarged by the media to use as froth magnets, what with trump not providing any helpful headlines this week.
Fucking stupid. Quit it.
^^THIS^^
I get it that Reason is pro open borders. That is a perfectly respectable position even if you don't agree with it, which I largely don't. What is not respectable is lying. Reason claims to be a nonpartisan magazine and takes great pride in claiming to be above the Team Red Team Blue frey. If they want to be that, then they should be that and not lie or distort facts even when it suits their political narrative.
In Reason's defense, Scott Walker has been very careful not to say stuff that is outrageous.
In the face of such diabolical self-control, what is the millennial journalist supposed to do? How can you hector that which is unhectorable?
Yes. He's so boring that they're trolling his boring interviews and then projecting insanity into his desperately evenhanded refusal to take any clear position.
Aye. I saw Walker's post minutes after it appeared and thought, "Hah, yeah, the silly things politicians say." Then I returned last night and saw the update and realized some people were taking it seriously. Walker is looking worse and worse to me, but this is a big nothing.
It is stupid. He clearly is not advocating a wall on the Canadian border.
But it's a link to an Australian newspaper in the morning links. I don't think it necessarily reflects any editorial position of Reason. I get the feeling that not a whole lot of thought or effort goes into the links.
"Death Valley" renamed "Planned Parenthood Headquarters"