Judge Sentences Rapist to Community Service at Rape Crisis Center

A judge in Texas has sentenced a rapist to community service…at a rape crisis center. Not only is the sentence atypically light, but, somehow, sending a convicted rapist to work with the victims of sexual assault and abuse didn't seem at all absurd or cruel to Judge Jeanine Howard.
"There are rape cases that deserve 20 years," Howard told The Dallas Morning News. "Every now and then you have one of those that deserve probation. This is one of those and I stand by it."
So what made this particular case—a case in which pepetrator Sir Young actually admitted to the rape—one of the latter instances? Howard said it was because the 14-year-old victim "wasn't the victim she claimed to be."
Howard doesn't dispute that Young forced the victim to have sex with him at the high school they both attended. But in Howard's book, you apparently can't be a real rape victim unless you're a virgin who's had zero prior contact with your rapist. From The Dallas Morning News:
Howard said she made her decision for several reasons, including: The girl had texted Young asking him to spend time with her; the girl had agreed to have sex with him but just didn't want to at school; medical records show the girl had three sexual partners and had given birth to a baby; and Young was barely 18 at the time.
The victim's mother said she has never been pregnant, but that's really beside the point, isn't it? The undisputed facts in this case are that the victim repeatedly told Young "no" and "stop." He didn't. The fact that she texted him previously, may have been willing to have sex with him in the future under different circumstances, or has had sex in the past is totally irrelevant. I can't even believe this is a point of contention.
Ultimately, Young was sentenced to 45 days in jail (plus spending the anniversary of the rape in jail for the next five years), five years probation, and 250 hours of community service. But the Dallas Area Rape Crisis Center (DARCC), where he was sentenced to serve, said thanks but no thanks.
"It flies in the face of logic," Bobbie Villareal, executive director of the DARCC, told the local CBS station. "First of all, in that you would ask someone to do their community supervision for the population that has been directly affected by the exact crime. That's like saying a pedophile should do their community supervision helping at a preschool."
Besides, DARCC doesn't accept volunteers with criminal backgrounds. Judge Howard's court coordinator told the Dallas Observer that she'll modify the conditions to give him community service hours somewhere else.
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I blame Game of Thrones.
Then he'd be Ser Young.
Is his nuncle Ser Angus?
No, I think it's Colonel Angus
Is he the guy who owns Sofa King?
See, you don't know what rape is like. For years, I thought it was funny. 'Oh, yeah. Rape's so funny.' Until you've been raped. You're about to find out what that's like, Hand Banana.
Also, Spaghetti.
Meatwad: I'm sorry Carl, but I think that you need to leave. You upsettin' Hand Banana.
Carl: Heh heh, yeah, well, you know, he "upset" me pretty bad too. I don't know if I can sleep anymore. You ever been raped by a dog?
Meatwad: Uh uh.
Carl: See, I think that's what Hell is like, you know. Constantly raped by dogs.
Frylock: Carl?
Carl: That, you know, I don't know if I believe in God, but...I think he must hate me.
Frylock: Carl?
Carl: Because he allowed you to create a dog that constantly rapes me.
Betcha Whoopie wishes Polanski had this judge back in the day.
Polanski is innocent. I saw the documentary.
Polanski is innocent. I saw the documentary.
It's not so much that he's "innocent," it's just that it's time to, you know, let bygones be bygones, especially when you take into consideration his contributions to film.
It's not rape rape when you're part of the elite.
What he did to that girl was abominable. I'd only be okay with the case being dropped if she insisted on it and Polonski was forced to pay restitution to his victim.
I don't know, can the adult forgive that which the child was unable to consent to? If she'd been an adult when he did what he did, and chose to forgive, that would one thing. The fact that she was a child at the time is the sticking point for me.
What difference (at this point) does it make?
I don't know Karl. Saying that an adult can't decide if they were a victim in the past or not runs awfully close to the "You're too ignorant to make decisions for yourself and should stop questioning your betters" line for my comfort.
Unless someone can show clear signs of mental defects or Stockinghold syndrome, I think we should always defer to an adult on their assessment of if they are a victim or not.
His films are mostly pretentious crap. I saw we sentence him to life in prison, so he can't make any more.
You left out the [sarcasm] marker. Didn't you?
Sounds like it was based on the Playboy(?) article I read in the 1980s.
A few months ago while reading a Paul Krassner book, he actually said Polanski really did rape her. Was a refreshing surprise.
Wait, what? Since when is intermittent jail a thing?
It's evidently part of the FMLA - the "intermittent" part.
/no it's not
It's been a thing for a really long time, it was just not used that often and has been mostly supplanted by house arrest.
I know a fellow who hit a prize cow while drunk-driving back in the '50s and had to go to jail every weekend for 2 years. He got the sentence because he was sole breadwinner for his family and six months in jail would have been a serious hardship for them (and he couldn't afford to pay the restitution), so the judge let him serve it out on the weekends.
But this was when we had no real welfare state and judges that weren't complete fucktards.
Dovetailing AA above, I'm assuming that what was the judge was getting at is that this wasn't rape rape.
Soooooo - totality of the circs, good shot kill beatdown ruling.
hth
SMOOCHES
"But in Howard's book, you apparently can't be a real rape victim unless you're a virgin who's had zero prior contact with your rapist."
Does not follow from what was said. Do you have a better quote that does show that?
This is a very confusing post.
"I'll take 'The Rapist' for $400, Alex..."
"There are rape cases that deserve 20 years," Howard told The Dallas Morning News. "Every now and then you have one of those that deserve probation. This is one of those and I stand by it."
So what made this particular case?a case in which pepetrator Sir Young actually admitted to the rape?one of the latter instances? Howard said it was because the 14-year-old victim "wasn't the victim she claimed to be."
I'm not sure which paragraph contains more absurdity.
Interesting. I would love for the judge to describe to me the exact series of events involved in a "probation" rape. Because it seems to me that something either IS or IS NOT rape, otherwise the word loses any real meaning. Maybe the judge should invent a charge along the lines of "coital inconvenience" or something.
Consensual sex between a 20 year old and a 16 year old who still love each other would be a good example.
He can be a counselor at the rape crisis center...at the prison.
(you see, because people get raped in prison)
ah.
I also find it interesting that the judge is a woman. I'd heard somewhere that women are paradoxically most likely to blame the victim in situations like this, but I thought having women in the judiciary was supposed to put a stop to the "she was asking for it" trope.
Nah, a man doesn't know what it is like to be a woman, so when a woman tells him she was too scared to say no he has to take her word for it. A woman on the other hand knows what it's like to be a woman and can call bull on this shrinking violet too delicate for this word crap.
I'd have to research this actual case to see if that is what happened here, but in general it's harder to pull 'I'm a victim' with people that share your characteristics but don't consider themselves victims.
As a woman, I'm of two minds about it. If the evidence points to rape and her story stands up to scrutiny, it's rape. But I still might "blame" her, in a manner of speaking, if the incident began with a stupid decision on her part. For example, I used to live in a college town where there was always some news story about a girl who had fallen asleep on the couch at some strange frat house and then, surprise!, got raped during the night. Well, a girl who does that is an irresponsible moron. But it doesn't excuse the guy who took advantage of her.
by fallen asleep I mean got drunk at and then passed out
When I went to college, it was generally understood that the purpose of a frat party was to get drunk on cheap beer. Since I didn't like either getting drunk, OR cheap beer, I stayed away.
I'm not saying that a frat-boy who has sex with a passed-out girl isn't scum. I am saying that my sympathy with the girl is limited. You play on the freeway, you get run over. The driver is at fault, but YOU were a moron.
Exactly, it's the whole leaving your car door unlocked in a bad neighbor hood thing. Yes, the thieves who stole your care should be caught, but you were a moron to think you couldn't take basic safety precautions.
These sorts of alternatives to incarceration are what helps criminals to be productive members of society while serving out their terms.
Now, this rapist lives like any normal, non-raping person would.
See how it works =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKE9W0O8bX8
the judge asked several times about whether the girl cried. The girl testified that she did not cry during the attack but cried afterward.
How TF the hell did this factor into the judge's decision? Did she ask whether the *rapist* cried?
Yes, but he always cries during sex so it was ruled irrelevant.
Is that not relevant? Why not?
"The victim's mother said she has never been pregnant, but that's really beside the point, isn't it?"
But the medical records showed she gave birth. If the records are reliable, then there are some serious plausibility gaps here. I wonder to what degree they factored into her decision.
Nonetheless, she overstepped the jury in a way in which she is not permitted, and this could just be her belligerence.
Reason playing "name that party".
Howard, a Democrat
Patriarchy Rape Culture War on Women
"It flies in the face of logic," Bobbie Villareal, executive director of the DARCC, told the local CBS station.
Very diplomatic answer.
I've worked for several rape crisis EDs. It would be really interesting to hear what Ms Villareal said between the time she heard the judge's decision and when she quit bouncing off her office walls.
Part of the "confront the offender" movement of the past 20 years is to force the perpetrators of crime to experience the harm that they cause up close. I'd bet that this is the judge's intention in this case - forcing the kid to see up close and personal the trauma that his actions cause, thereby preventing the creation of a serial offender.
That being said, I can also see why the folks at a rape crisis center would want no part of her social experiment.
I saw a tweet from a public defender which I assumed referenced this story. Wish he would have done a post about it. Nor sure what what is going on or what is the usual goings on.
It is interesting when the Dallas Morning News article first states the victim's and perpetrator's ages, the victim's age is when the rape happened, and Young's is his age now. Which gives the first impression it was a 20 year old man assaulting a 14 year old girl, rather than a high school senior with a freshman.
As to the rest, I am speculating that the Judge Howard does not entirely buy that the victim was all that clear on the lack of consent, and Young thought he had consent when he did not. Whether that is just by the facts of the case, I cannot say, but Young is still getting branded with sex offender status for life.
Which is appropriate, because it's statutory rape, regardless of your doubts about the victim. How about guys just stop going after 14 year olds?
I dont think Sampy So So is going to like that at all man.
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Rapists and Pedophilies are the strongest arguments left for the death penalty. Ends repeat offenders and terminates the Gene Pool on these deviants. Neither are ever accidentally committed (I'm not talking statutory rape here, rather as an act of violence) or are they ever "Crimes of Passion" A fair & impartial trial, following by a hanging. I'm surprised that's not the standard sentence in Texas for these crimes.
Derp derp derp derp.
What a disgusting and evil thing to do!
Rape AND statutory rape--how did this guy get a pass, exactly, and what was the judge thinking, putting a convicted rapist into a place designed to be a refuge for the sexually assaulted?