James Lovelock: Another Climate Change Apostate?
Biologist James Lovelock famously conjured up the Gaia hypothesis which likens the Earth to a gigantic organism that tries to maintain current planetary conditions against various environmental perturbations. Lovelock, until recently a paid up member of the climate change catastrophist caucus, once asserted that future global warming would become so bad that "before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable."
Lovelock has apparently now recanted his catastrophism. As MSNBC reports:
James Lovelock, the maverick scientist who became a guru to the environmental movement with his "Gaia" theory of the Earth as a single organism, has admitted to being "alarmist" about climate change and says other environmental commentators, such as Al Gore, were too.
Apparently, Lovelock's new book will…
…reflect his new opinion that global warming has not occurred as he had expected.
"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened," Lovelock said.
"The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said.
"The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time… it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising -- carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that," he added.
He pointed to Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" and Tim Flannery's "The Weather Makers" as other examples of "alarmist" forecasts of the future…..
As "an independent and a loner," he said he did not mind saying "All right, I made a mistake." He claimed a university or government scientist might fear an admission of a mistake would lead to the loss of funding.
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Hat tip Instapundit.
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He'll never make it as a politician or a bureaucrat.
It's as if a million progressive voices cried out, and then were silenced...
excellent
I sent the MSNBC link on this story to a leftist friend. His verbatim response:
"He was a bit over the top, but he's not denying it. But did you see this from earlier in the year: Muller, one of the leading skeptics, admitted climate change was real. The foundations supported by the Koch brothers then cut him off."
Could you have written that in advance for him any better?
Good for him. It takes balls to admit you were wrong.
But as villains go, I prefer Dr. Miguelito Quixote Loveless.
That alone should be worth a Nobel. Actually, it would be a great catgory.
Apparently, Lovelock's new book...
And there it is.
Kudos to him. Public personalities almost never admit having been wrong, even though they are most of the time.
He hedges his bets by saying that he thinks it will happen, but it will be delayed. But I'm still impressed.
Well, don't expect miracles.
Now we get to see how he gets attacked by the cultists. Should be interesting.
An army of grungy, gamey eco-theologist charging him? He can easily escape as the impending smell will alert him.
You thinkin' Omega Man?
#occupy Lovelock
He won't be attacked, he will simply be excommunicated.
Jim Lovelock has no university, no research institute, no students. His almost unparalleled influence in environmental science is based instead on a particular way of seeing things
All scientists agree on ACC, Lovelock does not agree on ACC, therefore Lovelock is not a scientist. QED
The science is settled, stop resisting. *thump, thump*
Well, I think climate change is going to happen too. Over the next few years the earth's average temperature will go either up or down.
Wanna bet that it doesn't?
🙂
temperature will go either up or down.
Or it will stay the same.
Define the limits of same.
Hell, define "Earth's average temperature." Not even measuring it, just defining it. It's a non-trivial problem, to say the least.
Good grief, no wonder Mother Nature is getting raped all the time.
No shit. I had no idea Gaia was so hot. I might have to rethink joining the hippies if that's what's on the table.
She got bad hair.
Mother Earth, the ultimate MILF.*
*With thanks to IowaHawk, who is wrapping up this year's cruise-in, so you should definitely drop by to check out some awsome rides.
Sigh, not worth going to all the trouble of registering a "Captain Kirk" handle just to make the obvious joke.
No need. You can change your handle in your user settings.
It's not nice to fool [fuck] Mother Nature.
Interesting.
Gaia has bee beardS for hair.
This is big. Of course, the diehard catastrophists will go all conspiracy theory, but I think the tide has begun to turn.
OT: Senator Grassley (Senile, IA) thinks the Colombian prostitutes involved in the recent scandal with the US Secret Service agents were Russkie Spies. How quaint.
Senator Grassley (Senile, IA)
This, Tonio, was hilarious. I LOL'd
Well played.
When they get so senile they don't even know what year it is anymore, I think it's time to put them out to pasture.
What, you don't think Russia spies on us any more? Don't be naive. He may well be wrong, but it's not an absurd thing to worry about.
Clearly, Lovelock's been bought by "Big Oil". /sarc
That's what THEY WANT YOU TO THINK!
He was obviously kidnapped, brainwashed, reprogrammed by the Koch Brothers secret cult police, who have his children imprisoned on their floating secret base in the lawless areas of the mid-atlantic. Just look at the facts! Also, by recombining letters in his statements, you can extract the phrase, "Cato planted shock device in my testes".
I could be wrong, but I seem to recall reading something a while back where he said he really meant for people to see the Gaia hypothesis metaphorically or as a way to look at the earth's systems to see how they were all interrelated.
I think he was kind of pissed that so many people took it literally.
*shrug*
People want to believe in fairies.
Hold on there.... global warming? Yes, the evidence is inconclusive. But fairies?... fairies? THEN WHO'S BEEN PUTTING THOSE PENNIES UNDER MY PILLOW???
I sure as hell hope he meant it metaphorically. His "Gaia hypothesis" isn't science, it's bad science fiction.
How much did the Kochs deposit in his secret Cayman Islands account?
the Caymans are for new-money paupers. The Kochs, like all classic aristocrats, still use the Swiss.
I'd be interested to know where ye olde money is being held these days. Probably not nearly so much in Switzerland since they rolled over for the IRS.
Luna.
FLOATING MID-OCEAN BASE!!!
On a terraformed Moon?
hmm.... can't rule it out.
"The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said.
THE DATA DOES NOT MATCH THE CONCLUSIONS.
Obviously, the data needs more "quality control" and "normalizing".
Will Wright should put out a new version of SimEarth to take this into account.
He should have his home burned down.
Could the innernets and western decadence be forging a new future through the board indignation of modern society?
We don't need doomsday, march forth to the singularity!
So I never thought about it like that dude.
http://www.Net-Anon.tk
How the MSNBC Ian Johnston take-down article on James Lovelock
happened and why NOW? I got the inside scoop here,
Climate denialists are in Seventh Heaven today, starting with Marc
Morano's CLIMATE DEPOT webiste, where news of MSNBC's take down of
global warming guru by MSNBC editor Ian Johnston has gone gliral --
that's global and viral mixed together for new portmanteau word. But
in fact, this was not a normal news story and this was not a normal
news day.
Facts: Ian Johnston is not a reporter for MSNBC. He is an editor. On
his Twitter page, he admits as such. He writes: "I am an editor for
MSNBC.com, and I like to cover stories about [lists topics he likes,
one
of which is environment]." He appears to be a British man.
Two: he interviewed Dr Lovelock by telephone at his home in Cornwall,
England, from his news desk
in New York.
Three: why did this telephone interview take place TODAY when in fact
there was NO NEWS about
LOVELOCK or climate change that would warrant such a big news story?
Answer: Aha, Lovelock's PR people at his publisher in London, or New
York, most likely know
Ian and in anticipation of Lovelock's new book coming out in 2013, the
PR people asked Ian if he would
like to interview James Lovelock by telephone person to person in the
UK? Of course, Ian took the bait and ran with it. Great story too.
Interesting. But why NOW? It seems that the PR people wanted to create
a pre-publication BUZZ a good 9 months before publication
in order to
create a waiting readership for the new book. A great PR move. Ian
fell for it. Ian did not report why or how the interview came about
and that is both unethical and unprofessional. But the PR team is
happy. And Ian got his scoop. And Dr Lovelock doesn't mind, because he
is a great man and he's always good for good quotse. Ian's story
rocked. But
there's a back story to the MSNBC story we need to know. Now you know it.
It was a PR stunt, a marketing set up, a news gimmick. And MSNBC fell for it.
Still, the news IS interesting and good on Ian for telling it. Just
wish he had been more forthcoming about the genesis of the alleged
"story." In fact, there was no story here. When the book comes out in
2013, yes, there
is a legit story then. NOT NOW. Now the entire story was pre-marketing
pre-publication bullshit to set the the stage for book sales later on.
You see Ron Bailey, if there really was any NEWS value to this Lovelock story, then there would have been a press con in UK with ten top reporters there, OR Lovelock would have given his "get" to Andy Revkin at the New York Times or Seth Borenstein at AP in DC, but who cares Ian Johnston at msnbcm who is NOT even a reporter. this was an inside job, inside PR job, a savvy Pr drill to create pre-marketint bonanza for the 2013 book. Lovelock did not ask for this. His publishers sat it up and someone at his PR team knew Ian in NYc, Ian is Brit too, and that is how this non story evented......WHY AM I the only internet sleuth to figure this out. you all been had. had good!
Dear Mr. Bloom: Thank you very much for sending me your take on the Lovelock story. I am curious - are you arguing that Lovelock has not changed his opinion about the seriousness of man-made global warming? If he has, then that would seem to be newsworthy.
Best,
Ron Bailey
Hi Ron
yes, LOVELOPCK has not changed his mind about the SERIOUSNESS of man man GW at all......only the time frame
of when the will hit the fan.....earlier he said 2100 and now he reasonably says well, not so soon, but it will still happen
he has NOT recanted at all....just a more reasonable time line and yes THAT IS NEWS...but the MSNBC story spiined
it like he had recanted
Dear Dan Bloom, your comments and blog online is just utter nonsense.
Do You offer a single piece of evidence that Lovelock was misquoted by MSNBC? Not that I can see. Has Lovelock walked back his comments in the past few days? I can't find that online either.
So your entire thesis is garbage. Famous people give interviews all the time. That's what Lovelock did. He spouted nonsense before and he is continuing to spout nonsense.
You really lost a lot of credibility with me on this.
You might consider retracting your nonsensical story since you have offered no evidence whatsoever for your charges against me or Dave Roberts.
Joseph Romm
Senior Fellow
Center for American Progress
Dear Mr. Bloom,
Thank you very much for sending me your take on the Lovelock story. I am curious - are you arguing that Lovelock has not changed his opinion about the seriousness of man-made global warming? If he has, then that would seem to be newsworthy.
Best,
Ron Bailey
Thanks