Measles in My Home Town - Get Vaccinated!
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is reporting that the number of cases of measles in the U.S. is the highest it's been since 1996. Of the 118 cases reported so far, 105 occurred in unvaccinated people. Forty percent of those who have contracted measles have been hospitalized.
One of the outbreaks is happening in Charlottesville, Va. where I generally hang out. From the local press:
The Charlottesville Health Department has confirmed that three residents of the Thomas Jefferson Health District have contracted measles. The Charlottesville Waldorf school released a statement, saying one of the confirmed cases was from a student at the school.
Dr. Lilian Peake stated the initial case was confirmed on May 19. An adult female resident of Charlottesville was hospitalized after reportedly contracting the virus while traveling in India. She has since been released and is doing well….
The school released a statement Thursday evening saying one of the confirmed cases was from a student at the school. An official told CBS19 the 7th grade student contracted measles from a visitor to his/her home and has since come in contact with more than 200 people at the school. The Health Department has spoken with 80 of those people, of which nearly half, 35, reportedly have not been vaccinated.
Reportedly, the last case of measles in the Charlottesville area was over 20 years ago. I hope nobody gets seriously hurt, but people, get your kids vaccinated!
As for me? Having grown up in the pre-measles vaccine era, I had measles when I was seven years old.
Kudos to Pamela Friedman.
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Gross!! I had the measles vaccine as a kid (along with Rubella, mumps, some other stuff), but I did get chicken pox when I was in kindergarten.
What next, an outbreak of consumption and polio?
Vaccinate your offspring, losers!
Funny that this is happening in places like C'Ville and Berkley. But remember, liberals are the ones who love science. Losers!!
Actually, there's no evidence that it's a left or right thing. It seems to be a yuppie over-protective parent thing (which knows no party) more than anything.
http://blogs.discovermagazine......ccination/
Your link, unsuprisingly, does not support your statement. The polling data is on "mandatory vaccination" and "questioning the safety of childhood vaccination". Not on which ideology is prone to actually not vaccinate their kids.
While not a perfect correlation, those that will not vaccinate their kids are the ones that will oppose mandatory vaccination and will question the safety of vaccinations. Is there evidence that there is a political element?
Anecdata from the hinterlands of South Carolina seem to indicate that there is some "I don't want no gubmint liberal socialist tellin' me what's best for MY kid" mindset in the reactionary camp. Basically, whackadoodles of all stripes eschew vaccination because they don't trust the all-powerful 'other'. One's political affiliation just determines who that 'other' is. Corporations (or Western intellectual domination of wymyns) on the radical side, and Government (or just high-fallutin'-know-it-alls) on the reactionary side.
Are there recorded outbreaks of vaccination-preventable disease in the "hinterlands of South Carolina"?
Public health data shows it usually happens in "hippie-town"
As above, opposing mandatory vaccination and questioning the safety does not equate with not vaccinating your kids.
Salt Lake City is hippie town now? Because according to the CDC map, there are more there than any other US city except for Minneapolis.
Outbreaks are going to happen where there are concentrations of people and people who come from abroad, which means urban areas. Hinterlands lack the population and the flow of immigrants and visitors that lead to outbreaks. This doesn't mean that they are vaccinated at a higher rate, just that they have fewer of the additional risk factors that lead to outbreaks.
It appears that Minneapolis is anomalous as their high level of outbreaks is likely due to the high population of Somali immigrants.
Salt Lake City is hippie town now?
No, but it has a high population of people (missionaries) who travel regularly to disease-ridden parts of the world.
I know that there have been whooping cough (pertussis) outbreaks in South Carolina that made the news in the past year or so. Roughly coeval with the outbreak in California.
As for how widespread the hick-centric antivax crowd is in SC, I have no data, but I can report some personal interactions therewith, back in the 80s and 90s. Based on my experience in that neck of the woods, I'd be astonished if that tendency, added to half-remembered/understood stories about vaccine 'questions' didn't lead to at least a modest drop in vaccination rates in SC.
My experience is the opposite. Of my rural friends, there isn't a one who hasn't had their kids vaccinated. I go to parties with more liberal academics
(lots of PhD's) who talk about how it's "not proven" that vaccination isn't linked to autism.
These are frequently math-y PhDs who should know better than to talk about proving a negative.
The other group I see (in my limited world) as largely linking vaccinations and autism are the animal-rights/vegetarian/vegan/climate change folks, who also have a significant overlap with the PhDs.
I travel relatively effortlessly between the rural/gun-shootin/blue-collar and academic/liberal groups and really don't see much of the former in the anti-vaccination crowd.
Although, as a math PhD, none of my math PhD friends say this. I have had an English PhD friend tell me that she "doesn't believe in herd immunity," which dumbfounded me, considering that it's just basic math plus the belief that the vaccine works plus the disease can be transmitted.
She doesn't disagree with any of the premises, she just doesn't agree that herd immunity exists.
The is some portion of the Arts and Humanities crowd that really seems to think that natural law is just a matter of social convention. It is possible she just doesn't like the subtext of the phrase or something.
Not a big portion, mind you, but enough to leave me shaking my head.
Not sure whether to be relieved or annoyed that I haven't been able to talk any of them into stepping off a tall building to be buoyed up by the strength of their conviction.
Don't forget the anti-capitalists that refuse vaccines because they are created and produced by Big Pharma.
Yeah its happening all over. After her last pediatric rotation, my wife was FULL of stories of diseases that in her words "we just don't have in this country anymore" that were entirely due to people not vaccinating their kids....
Funny that this is happening in places like C'Ville and Berkley. But remember, liberals are the ones who love science. Losers!!
I find it endlessly amazing that some people see every issue through a lens of political tribe. How would one navigate the world with such a warped view of things? I mean, what if you met someone and didn't know whether they were liberal or conservative? How would you know whether to look down on them or not?
I usually wait for them to open their festering gobs and say something stupid. People rarely disappoint me in this regard.
Charlottesville is a money town. Politics swing both ways there, but there is no shortage of snobbishness.
The Charlottesville Waldorf school
At least the privileged young brat didn't get teh autism from thimerosal.
13k+ a year bitchez !
Kid could've gone to measles-ridden private school in India for less than a C-note.
Both historically and philosophically, Waldorf education grows out of anthroposophy's view of child development, which stands as the basis for the educational theory, methodology of teaching and curriculum. This includes the belief that humans possess an innate spirit that, having passed through previous lives, in the current life develops in a karmically appropriate environment before returning to the spirit world where it will prepare for a future reincarnation. Waldorf pedagogy views the teacher as having "a sacred task in helping each child's soul and spirit grow
I suppose the "no vaccination" policy hastens that "return to the spirit world".
Holy shit - this make public school sound a whole lot more attractive,
It makes measle-ridden $50 a year tuition Indian private school more attractive too!
SLD:
I do applaud the freedom to make really stupid choices!
also, lol
measle-ridden $50 a year tuition Indian private school more attractive too!
yep!
For those too lazy or otherwise occupied to RTFA, there is a suggestion the measles outbreak in Charlottesville originated from a traveler to India.
SIV: Well, actually the blogpost cites that info....
I have no time for your measly excerpts Bailey!
Yeah, Waldorf schools are fucking insane. They produce weird, flaky people who can never figure out what to do with themselves and have no useful skills even if they could.
Vaccines causes teh autism!!111!!!
Jenny McCarthy should be held personally responsible for this.
Is there a Statler school too?
No, but there is a Ritz.
It is somewhat amusing that the Waldorf name comes from a cigarette manufacturer.
No disclosure statement?
I had measles when I was seven years old.
Libertarianism fail FTW.
"I'm not going outside," Janet said. "If I go outside I'll die, just like the kitties are all dying."
Terri rolled her eyes. "Girl, you are out of your goddamn mind. Nobody's going to die from being outside. Now get out of my sight, you're pissing me off."
"But the kitties are all dying. They have the pox," Janet said. "The pox."
Isn't that part of the standard vaccination schedule for infants and toddlers? Are people skipping them out of laziness or phantom fears about autism?
The latter.
Yes
If it weren't so sad for the kids, it would almost be funny.
Ah well, evolution at work.
I'm LMFAO. It's funny as Hell "the spirit world where it will prepare for a future reincarnation">
When a kid runs out in front of the car/drinks Drano/sticks a firecracker in its ear/etc., Dad Almanian says what, Little Almanians? All together now:
"You're seeing natural selection at work, kids...." "We know, we know - DON'T DO THAT!"
I thought it an appropriate survival technique to teach the young 'ns.
I've got a hunch this is why raising the drinking age never works to reduce alcohol related accidents. It's not the age that causes people to wise up, but rather seeing a couple of their buddies wrapped around a phone pole that finally hammers some "common sense" into their skulls.
Charlottesville, Va. where I generally hang out.
Lucky bastard. One of the prettiest places I have ever been.
And it bosts Andie MacDowell as a resident.
Add the letter "a" as needed.
She moved away from Asheville?
Perhaps I am mistaken.
I DON'T HAVE TO. HERD IMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm Only putting myself at risk!!!!!!!!
Oh wait, what's that you say? 118 cases, 105 weren't vaccinated? That means 13 people that were vaccinated contracted it as well??
but.. but... but...
*head explodes*
"You gonna let them shoot your cows out from under you on account of a schoolbook disease? "
Vaccines vary in their efficacy, but none that I recall (from my old allergy-immunology days) are 100% effective. So yes, some people who are vaccinated do not develop immunity to the disease and this is to be expected. This is also where the herd immunity you referred to comes into play. Even without 100% immunity in a population, if the proportion of immune people is high enough, it stops transmission of the disease between infected people and other susceptible people, thus preventing epidemics (and likely protecting you as well.)
I was vaccinated (MMR) when I was under 1 year old (early 70s), but contracted measles in 1980. The explanation that they gave was that MMR vaccinations performed before 1yr are not always effective. At least it was a very mild case of measles.
That's why there's now a second dose recommended at 4-6 years.
There was also some dealie where some people vaccinated in the early 70's were considered to have gotten some inferior vaccine. I had to get a revaccination in high school because of this.
It would seem to me that 13 people have grounds for a tort case against 105 other people.
Or against the manufacturer of a defective vaccine.
Oops...no recourse here anymore is there?
It's not the vaccines that are defective. In a bit under 1% of all vaccines, the vaccine doesn't take. This usually doesn't matter because of herd immunity, but when enough morons eschew vaccines (or more accurately, when enough morons skip vaccines for their kids), the herd immunity goes away.
morons skip vaccines for their kids
Morons with degrees from expensive liberal arts colleges!
sports bar ist krieg!
In addition to what Mo said @ 1:50, there is also the issue of how strong you want the vaccine to be.
You can up the strength of the vaccine to provoke a response in a larger portion of the population, but you run the risk of causing an adverse reaction to people at the other end of the immune response spectrum. IOW, to confer immunity on an additional 5% of the population, you may put 1% of the population at a serious health risk. With herd immunity, you don't need to take the latter risk as the 5% have a reduced chance of exposure.
The 105 should be paying for their own treatment, not the ins co. (ie the rest of us)
Too bad it ain't chicken pox. Be a lot of fun watching the freak out from folks being told they might get Herpes.
Measles, Mumps, Chickenpox. Never had Rubella though. I was about a year to old to take the Rubella vaccine when it. All my siblings were vaccinated though.
We need to impose a six-figure deposit on having kids. You get part of it back each time your kid gets a vaccination.
Why too old? There's no age limit on the MMR vaccine. People can and do get it as an adult. I had the standard two doses as a child and then again when I was 22 because my records were lost and I needed proof of immunization for grad school.
When it was first introduced, they were only giving it to children (10 and under I think).
Back in the late 80's, colleges were requiring evidence of immunization to enroll (apparently the formula changed and young adults could take the MMR vaccine). I was trying to take a class at ASU, and I ran into trouble because I hand't ever taken the MMR vaccine. They finally decided that since I was in my 30's by then, I didn't need to get vaccinated for Rubella.
Lucky you. George Mason made me get it since it was one of the few shots not in my military shot records. I literally have pages of vaccinations, but I had to have MMR documented for them.
So, given what we learend last night about the links between disease and freedom, are these measle cases now suddenly going to be become raging fascists? (I know that's a wildly inaccurate statement, Mr. Bailey, just poking a little fun).
As for me? Having grown up in the pre-measles vaccine era, I had measles when I was seven years old.
Disclosure: I had measles when I was seven years old.
FTFY
Just about every kid in my grade school got measles (mid-50s) and I don't recall anyone of them dying or being seriously effected. Yet the same disease killed thousands in Civil War camps. When did measles go from being a killer to a one week inconvenience to being nearly wiped out by vaccines?
Measles still kills around 1 in 1000 people it effects. It can cause serious problems like encephalitis.
It might be rare, but it happens, and it's way, way, way more common than the 1 in a million (at worst) risk of serious vaccine-related complications.
Measles still kills around 1 in 1000 people it effects.
So, on average, it kills about 1 person per year in the entire U.S.?
Meh.
Plus, that's gotta be the figures for adults who catch it. Everyone I knew growing up caught measles when we were kids. It sucked a bit then you were over it. Never knew anyone who died from it or even went to the hospital.
Whoops, that's kills one person every ten years or so in the entire U.S.
0.1 deaths per year on average.
Hardly time to panic.
I bet the kids in your grade school had much better healthcare and nutrition than the soldiers in Civil War camps. Fewer amputations and festering wounds too...
"Childhood" diseases that inflict adults can be catestrophic for those adults.
Parets used to take their young kids to be infected by other young kids while they were very small.
I remember that episode.
http://www.southparkstudios.co.....chickenpox
Me too!
An adult can die from chickenpox.
Could part of it be (like polio) it's better to get it when you are a kid? Could part of it be that the people who were susceptible enough to die from it didn't pass on their genes? Could part of it be that unsanitary conditions such as in a Civil War camp contributed to their deaths?
I think it used to kill a lot of people in pre-antibiotic days because of secondary bacterial infections like pneumonia, not so much from just measles itself.
I just moved to C'Ville in April. We should have a Reason Meetup!
"Proof of vaccination required"
Who believes those statist bastards at the CDC anyway?
I keep measles away with a pound of silver bullion I have buried under my trailer.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/.....105273873/
""""'Dr. Lilian Peake stated the initial case was confirmed on May 19. An adult female resident of Charlottesville was hospitalized after reportedly contracting the virus while traveling in India."""
So under a free market tort system can the victims of the disease sue this woman for bringing an infectious disease into contact with them?
And where on the "free market" and "open borders" ledger book does the cost of importing this disease go?
Depends. If she took proper precautions (read: was vaccinated), I don't see how she could have expected to catch and bring back measles. If she wasn't vaccinated and didn't have a good reason for it (like an autoimmune disorder*), then I think that person should be open to a suit from the people that were vaccinated and infected.
* Though I can't imagine why someone with an autoimmune disorder would take the risk and go to India.
Wow, like, big agriculture totally brought this upon us with their frankenfoods, man.
So, 118 cases (not deaths, cases) of measles in the nation?
Talk about your extremely rare risks -- there's, what, an estimated 250 to 1,000 DEATHS from autoerotic asphyxiation each year in the U.S.
If only i could get a vaccine for that.
Vaccines do NOT equal immunity! 45 were vaccinated. Measles is treatable. Eat foods that strengthen the immune system instead of gratifying taste buds every minute with chemicals and processed foods. Those damage the body, strengthen and heal.
Why vaccinate when we have alternative medicine?
Are you going to refuse antibiotics and choose alternative treatments if you catch the clap?