According to a new Rasumssen poll, Americans have some ideas about where the federal government can shove its nutritional standards:
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 23% of Adults say the federal government should set nutritional standards for public schools. Thirty-one percent (31%) would rather see parent-teacher groups do it. Seventeen percent (17%) feel state governments should have that responsibility, while just as many (17%) think it should be up to local governments.
The poll doesn't reveal support for stopping the gush of $4.6 billion in federal money sloshing around on the floors of America's lunchrooms. They probably want the dough to keep coming. But they don't like Michelle Obama and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) telling their kids what to eat, anyway.
Michelle Obama called childhood obesity a "national security threat" at the bill's signing this week.
"From military leaders who tell us that when more than one-in-four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight, childhood obesity isn't just a public health threat, it's not just an economic threat, it's a national security threat as well."
Mercifully:
Most Americans across the demographic board don't believe that childhood obesity is a national security issue.
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The most amazing thing to me about lunch trades was that there was always some kid whose parents fed him like shit who was actually willing to give me his Oreos in exchange for my carrot and celery sticks or my orange.
to your personal pew in reverend wright's homophobic church. you'll feel like home again. you're obviously a truther and an anti-vaxxer. you are a hater that yearns for the return of slavery so you can wield the lash. you are bigoted cunt of the worst kind.
Hmm ... with homosexuality soon to be a non-disqualifying attribute to serving in the military it looks like obesity may be the best way out. Buy donut futures should the draft ever be reinstated.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 23% of Adults say the federal government should set nutritional standards for public schools. Thirty-one percent (31%) would rather see parent-teacher groups do it. Seventeen percent (17%) feel state governments should have that responsibility, while just as many (17%) think it should be up to local governments.
It appears that Rasmussen did not offer a "It's the parents' business. Everyone else butt out" option. (I assume those who thought of it in those terms were buried in the 'parent-teacher' group.)
I believe they're talking about the food the school sells, not what kind of food is allowed to be eaten at lunch. Sack lunches are still, for the time being, unregulated.
Because of kids' growing rates of peanut allergies, some school districts are banning peanut products from their lunchrooms. Cashew butter, sunflower butter, ground soynuts,etc, are substituted. I think the proliferation of (unfermented)soy in much of the processed foodstuffs will have an ill effect on health for the coming generations. I also question the strongarming of the dosing of the general population with a toxic by-product added to the water supply in the name of pediatric dentistry. Fluoride can change the thyroid's control on a variety of hormones, plus the pesticide residue (fluoride--YUM!)can cause bone cancer in teen boys. I want the f*cking government out of my pantry and kitchen.
The "growing rate" of peanut allergies is as imaginary as the obesity "epidemic."
In the rare few occasions I've seen somebody have a reaction attributed to peanuts, the offending peanuts were drowning in MSG, which is more likely the cause of the "symptoms." Most claims of peanut allergies I've seen are attention ploys, proven by witnessing the claimant's peanut byproduct ingestion with zero symptoms. And the toxicity claims (airborne exposure) are complete fabrications. Yes, there is a ridiculously small percentage with real peanut allergies, but it's far smaller than those with real shellfish, lactose, or gluten allergies. The peanut nonsense was manufactured in the minds of care trolls.
As for the obesity hoax, the main issues here are statistical gaming and that obesity has been defined down to anybody who has had more than 2% bodyfat at any point in their life.
To the extent that there are a few more kids above ideal weight today, it has far more to do with most opportunities for physical activity being banned due to lawyers or irrational parental phobias.
Sure there is more crap food on the market today, but the powerless parent who can't keep their kid away from 7 fast food meals per week is an invention of the lamestream media.
My granddaughter has nut alergies (peanut and tree nut) and it is no laughing matter. She has to carry an eppe pen every where she goes. She is also affected by cross contamination.
I'm not sure about the peanut allergy thing, but I assure you that you are 100% misinformed about the definition of Obesity.
Most people would actually be nearly DEAD at 2% body fat. Unless you work with starving African children, I can promise you that you have never even MET someone with 2% body fat. In fat, men NEED about 5-8% of essential fat to function normally, and women need 10-13%. Supermodels have about 8% body fat...
In contrast, the AVERAGE obese person has at least 25-30% body fat or more! Also, I think we only need to look around to see that the obesity rate has gone off the wall... at least wear I live. I hate to use large claims like "national epidemic," but it's almost true in this case. We have horrible overall health (and healthcare!), for a developed nation.
So please, please inform yourself before you say things like that! 🙁 If you don't want to go read a book, here are some Wikipedia articles:
I'm not sure about the peanut allergy thing, but I assure you that you are 100% misinformed about the definition of Obesity.
Most people would actually be nearly DEAD at 2% bodyfat. Unless you work with starving African children, I can promise you that you have never even MET someone with 2% bodyfat. In fat, men NEED about 5-8% of essential fat to function normally, and women need 10-13%. Supermodels have about 8% bodyfat...
In contrast, the AVERAGE obese person has at least 25-30% body fat or more! Also, I think we only need to look around to see that the obesity rate has gone off the wall... at least wear I live. I hate to use large claims like "national epidemic," but it's almost true in this case. We have horrible overall health (and healthcare!), for a developed nation.
So please, please inform yourself before you say things like that! 🙁 If you don't want to go read a book, at least go read the wikipedia articles for "obesity" and "body fat."
Most telling part of that article for me is the fact that the people polled want to continue to get the federal money, but don't want to be told what to do with it by the federal government.
Reminds me of an old Bloom County comic, where Opus becomes a farmer. He has to be able to say two things without laughing: "The government should stay out of my business" and "Where's my aid check?" Opus couldn't say them both without laughing.
Apparently, the people polled here have no such problem.
Most telling part of that article for me is the fact that the people polled federal government want to continue to get the federal taxpayers' money, but don't want to be told what to do with it by the federal government taxpayers.
Michelle Obama is worried the US won't have enough soldiers? She's obviously an imperialist stooge seeking to fill our armies and crush the brown people of the world under her oligarchic boot.
Or she's just saying that, since she believes that will fool the proles into supporting her nanny-state agenda.
Michelle Obama called childhood obesity a "national security threat" at the bill's signing this week.
"From military leaders who tell us that when more than one-in-four young people are unqualified for military service
So is she hinting that Obama has indicated during pillow talke that he is thinking about dragging us into yet another war that would make it necessary to conscript more than 3/4 of the adult citizenry youthful enough to fight?
THAT should be the "gotcha" question that someone should fling at Obama next time he takes questions from the press.
Abortion also deprives our great nation of cannon fodder, yet I don't see Michelle coming out against that. Funny that one who is loath to encourage abstinence from semen has no qualms demanding abstinence from Doritos.
Semen is also loaded with anti-depressants and various other goodies. There was a study a while back that showed that women who bareback or injest orally are happier than those who don't. I made extra sure to point the article out to my wife...
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 23% of Adults say the federal government should set nutritional standards for public schools. Thirty-one percent (31%) would rather see parent-teacher groups do it. Seventeen percent (17%) feel state governments should have that responsibility, while just as many (17%) think it should be up to local governments.
Here's a radical idea. How about we turn that momentous responsibility over to the "Independent School District" board locally-elected for the express purpose of running the schools.
Most of the studies that promote the obesity issue always quote... 50% of Americans are overweight or obese. There's a huge difference between being just overweight and really being obese.
I think most of them say 36% overweight and 26% ish obese now. If just overweight was on a upward trail it would be beside the point.
Being unhealthy will lower your cost on a socialized system anyway, so its not like it should matter to the government financially though. Obesity could save social security.
Hey Michelle, obesity is about 3874th on the list of most Americans national security issues, but you'll be pleased to know that your husband is #1 and you're #15.
In 10 years, that $4.8 billion will grow to $20 billion, and there will be no evidence that it had any effect on childhood obesity. Why? Because parents don't want to say no to their kids. Why? Because they want the few hours a day they actually spend with their kids to be pleasant. They don't care about the kids' diets, they just want some peace and quiet when they get home from work. Cookies for everyone!
Of course, this is a race issue. Or rather a cultural issue triggered by a racial divide. There are many benefits to having the biological parents raising their young. Home cooking will be healthier than store bought or restaurant food because the home cooker cares about your well being, while the commercial food server just wants your return business. A two parent household will have more time for purchasing and preparing meals than a one parent household.
African-Americans have disproportionately more single parent families (usually the mom), spend more of their food dollar on fast food and have diet related health problems such as diabetes, high-blood pressure, coronary disease and obesity than Whites. Is there a connection? Hmmm, I don't know.
There is an television add for some fast food breakfast place that shows the harried African-American mother taking her children through the bank drive through and ordering breakfast.
Speaking of threats to national security, a recent report indicated that the disparity between academic achievement between young males of the Black and White persuasions could not be explained by poverty. Could that missing dad be the problem. Men should be men and participate in raising their children.
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Do schools still charge for lunch? If so the only ones getting the fed food will be those with vouchers. Everyone else will spend their lunch money in the coming Snickers blackmarket.
The educational law I would like to see passed is the one that requires everyone in Congress to write a 15 page report on the 18th and 21st amendments before they are allowed to vote on any ban.
The government already decides what's on your kid's lunch menu.
The school board or a public servant such as a superintendent or principal or lunch lady has always made that decision. Or the city or the county or the state government. Government, government, government.
I'm an anarcho-capitalist, but normally L/libertarian will do in a pinch. Forget about the goddamn lunches, this is smoke and fucking mirrors, people--THERE SHOULDN'T BE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AT ALL.
To make matters worse, nobody cared about this until a black woman got involved and now everyone is shitting bricks. That's just embarrassing to me.
"To make matters worse, nobody cared about this until a black woman got involved and now everyone is shitting bricks."
Maybe because we're so used to white women doing heinous things in government positions. It seems more novel with a black woman.
I'm not sure about the peanut allergy thing, but I assure you that you are 100% misinformed about the definition of Obesity.
Most people would actually be nearly DEAD at 2% bodyfat. Unless you work with starving African children, I can promise you that you have never even MET someone with 2% bodyfat. In fat, men NEED about 5-8% of essential fat to function normally, and women need 10-13%. Supermodels have about 8% bodyfat...
In contrast, the AVERAGE obese person has at least 25-30% body fat or more! Also, I think we only need to look around to see that the obesity rate has gone off the wall... at least wear I live. I hate to use large claims like "national epidemic," but it's almost true in this case. We have horrible overall health (and healthcare!), for a developed nation.
So please, please inform yourself before you say things like that! 🙁 If you don't want to go read a book, at least go read the wikipedia articles for "obesity" and "body fat."
Every time you eat a twinkie the terrorist win.
The most amazing thing to me about lunch trades was that there was always some kid whose parents fed him like shit who was actually willing to give me his Oreos in exchange for my carrot and celery sticks or my orange.
Thankfully, Barry's wife does not yet possess the power to pack adult lunches.
Give it time.
Only a stupid fucking libertarian would be against this.
Yeah, liberty is such a stupid, backward idea. Liberty and justice for all are so yesterday.
spoken like a true Christ-fag capitalist Republifucker. They're the only ones who talk about "liberty".
Probably because "liberty" is tough to pronounce with a mouth full of government scrota.
to your personal pew in reverend wright's homophobic church. you'll feel like home again. you're obviously a truther and an anti-vaxxer. you are a hater that yearns for the return of slavery so you can wield the lash. you are bigoted cunt of the worst kind.
troll-tastic!!!
scrota: it's "what's for gub'mint lunch"
This *almost* captures the spittle-flecked lunacy of shrike. Good try!
Yeah shrike, I guess the concept of "liberty" is foriegn to you.
Maxist asshole.
"Maxist asshole"
malopropitastic!
Hmm ... with homosexuality soon to be a non-disqualifying attribute to serving in the military it looks like obesity may be the best way out. Buy donut futures should the draft ever be reinstated.
Homosexual commanders are going to want their troops, fit, trim and rippling with muscle. No fatties!! Codpieces will also make a uniform comeback.
The Secret Band of West Point?
no, problem. we'll just put you in general gaylord's troop. they're very disciplined.
As someone who loves veggie sammiches, I have to say that pic looks yummy. Am I wrong to think that others might not agree with me?
Why should I care what anyone who loves veggie sandwiches thinks about food?
You would be 100% correct that others violently disagree with you.
I will gladly sell you all the veggie sandwiches I will be served in the future for one Quarter Pounder Cheese Meal.
Do they have Quarter Pounders in Icebekistan? I thought you guys were on that fruity metric system.
The gubmint is takin' over my seed supply!
Forcin' me to eat veggys!
They takin' mah guns too! And my goddamn Bible!
...you're okay with everything you posted, Idiot?
Well, you can't argue the last part of his name.
It appears that Rasmussen did not offer a "It's the parents' business. Everyone else butt out" option. (I assume those who thought of it in those terms were buried in the 'parent-teacher' group.)
I believe they're talking about the food the school sells, not what kind of food is allowed to be eaten at lunch. Sack lunches are still, for the time being, unregulated.
?
Try giving your kid peanut butter sandwiches to take to school.
I don't have a kid to experiment on; what happens if one tries that?
Because of kids' growing rates of peanut allergies, some school districts are banning peanut products from their lunchrooms. Cashew butter, sunflower butter, ground soynuts,etc, are substituted. I think the proliferation of (unfermented)soy in much of the processed foodstuffs will have an ill effect on health for the coming generations. I also question the strongarming of the dosing of the general population with a toxic by-product added to the water supply in the name of pediatric dentistry. Fluoride can change the thyroid's control on a variety of hormones, plus the pesticide residue (fluoride--YUM!)can cause bone cancer in teen boys. I want the f*cking government out of my pantry and kitchen.
of the soy harvest sat immobile on the tracks until the soy rotted....
The "growing rate" of peanut allergies is as imaginary as the obesity "epidemic."
In the rare few occasions I've seen somebody have a reaction attributed to peanuts, the offending peanuts were drowning in MSG, which is more likely the cause of the "symptoms." Most claims of peanut allergies I've seen are attention ploys, proven by witnessing the claimant's peanut byproduct ingestion with zero symptoms. And the toxicity claims (airborne exposure) are complete fabrications. Yes, there is a ridiculously small percentage with real peanut allergies, but it's far smaller than those with real shellfish, lactose, or gluten allergies. The peanut nonsense was manufactured in the minds of care trolls.
As for the obesity hoax, the main issues here are statistical gaming and that obesity has been defined down to anybody who has had more than 2% bodyfat at any point in their life.
To the extent that there are a few more kids above ideal weight today, it has far more to do with most opportunities for physical activity being banned due to lawyers or irrational parental phobias.
Sure there is more crap food on the market today, but the powerless parent who can't keep their kid away from 7 fast food meals per week is an invention of the lamestream media.
My granddaughter has nut alergies (peanut and tree nut) and it is no laughing matter. She has to carry an eppe pen every where she goes. She is also affected by cross contamination.
I'm not sure about the peanut allergy thing, but I assure you that you are 100% misinformed about the definition of Obesity.
Most people would actually be nearly DEAD at 2% body fat. Unless you work with starving African children, I can promise you that you have never even MET someone with 2% body fat. In fat, men NEED about 5-8% of essential fat to function normally, and women need 10-13%. Supermodels have about 8% body fat...
In contrast, the AVERAGE obese person has at least 25-30% body fat or more! Also, I think we only need to look around to see that the obesity rate has gone off the wall... at least wear I live. I hate to use large claims like "national epidemic," but it's almost true in this case. We have horrible overall health (and healthcare!), for a developed nation.
So please, please inform yourself before you say things like that! 🙁 If you don't want to go read a book, here are some Wikipedia articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity
I'm not sure about the peanut allergy thing, but I assure you that you are 100% misinformed about the definition of Obesity.
Most people would actually be nearly DEAD at 2% bodyfat. Unless you work with starving African children, I can promise you that you have never even MET someone with 2% bodyfat. In fat, men NEED about 5-8% of essential fat to function normally, and women need 10-13%. Supermodels have about 8% bodyfat...
In contrast, the AVERAGE obese person has at least 25-30% body fat or more! Also, I think we only need to look around to see that the obesity rate has gone off the wall... at least wear I live. I hate to use large claims like "national epidemic," but it's almost true in this case. We have horrible overall health (and healthcare!), for a developed nation.
So please, please inform yourself before you say things like that! 🙁 If you don't want to go read a book, at least go read the wikipedia articles for "obesity" and "body fat."
Re: 2% body fat
2%
Does that make it clearer?
Let's try it this way:
[sarc] 2% [/sarc]
Does the sarcasm tag (if it works this time) make it clearer?
Don't even think about it.
Most telling part of that article for me is the fact that the people polled want to continue to get the federal money, but don't want to be told what to do with it by the federal government.
Reminds me of an old Bloom County comic, where Opus becomes a farmer. He has to be able to say two things without laughing: "The government should stay out of my business" and "Where's my aid check?" Opus couldn't say them both without laughing.
Apparently, the people polled here have no such problem.
Most telling part of that article for me is the fact that the people polled federal government want to continue to get the federal taxpayers' money, but don't want to be told what to do with it by the federal government taxpayers.
+1040
Excellent response, Tulpa.
In view of the behavior of first ladies over the past 25 years, I propose an amendment banning married men from being president.
So you think Bill Clinton as First Philander would be an improvement over Michelle Obama?
actually yes. he'd be freed of maintaining appearances and could behave as caddishly as he desired.
the aim of course being distraction from "running the country"
I would take either Clinton over the Marxist clown we have now.
And I don't even like the Clintons.
Michelle Obama is worried the US won't have enough soldiers? She's obviously an imperialist stooge seeking to fill our armies and crush the brown people of the world under her oligarchic boot.
Or she's just saying that, since she believes that will fool the proles into supporting her nanny-state agenda.
get all wet and worked up over the idea of reinstating the draft. Just think of that army under their control. Oh, what wonders they could work...
1910s: Anarchists. Zaaa!
1920s: Catholics. Zaaa!
1930s: Capitalists. Zaaa!
1940s: Japs. Zaaaa!
1950s: Commies. Zaaa!
1960s: Hippies. Zaaa!
1970s: Druggies. Zaaa!
1980s: Satanists. Zaaa!
1990s: Militiamen. Zaaa!
2000s: Terrorists. Zaaa!
2010s: Fatties. Zaaa!
2010S: Libertarians: Zaaa!
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Michelle Obama called childhood obesity a "national security threat" at the bill's signing this week.
"From military leaders who tell us that when more than one-in-four young people are unqualified for military service
So is she hinting that Obama has indicated during pillow talke that he is thinking about dragging us into yet another war that would make it necessary to conscript more than 3/4 of the adult citizenry youthful enough to fight?
THAT should be the "gotcha" question that someone should fling at Obama next time he takes questions from the press.
She wants our kids nice and healthy so they can send them to some far off land to get blown to pieces for their country.
"If you die young over here, we can't make you kill people over there!"
The only good libertarian is a libertarian who dies of complications of diabetes. Pound away, fatasses.
more peace love and tolerance from the left.
Most Americans across the demographic obesity board don't believe that childhood obesity is demographics are a national security issue.
Abortion also deprives our great nation of cannon fodder, yet I don't see Michelle coming out against that. Funny that one who is loath to encourage abstinence from semen has no qualms demanding abstinence from Doritos.
Semen is loaded with protein. Doritos are just empty calories.
Semen is also loaded with anti-depressants and various other goodies. There was a study a while back that showed that women who bareback or injest orally are happier than those who don't. I made extra sure to point the article out to my wife...
nah, i heard Doritos had spider eggs in 'em.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 23% of Adults say the federal government should set nutritional standards for public schools. Thirty-one percent (31%) would rather see parent-teacher groups do it. Seventeen percent (17%) feel state governments should have that responsibility, while just as many (17%) think it should be up to local governments.
Here's a radical idea. How about we turn that momentous responsibility over to the "Independent School District" board locally-elected for the express purpose of running the schools.
How about we disband the Department of Education? They are one of the more useless agencies we have. Closely followed by the FCC, HUD and EPA.
a toxic by-product added to the water supply in the name of pediatric dentistry.
My essence! Noooooooo
what about toxic mortgages added to the investment supply in the of housing affordability?
Most of the studies that promote the obesity issue always quote... 50% of Americans are overweight or obese. There's a huge difference between being just overweight and really being obese.
I think most of them say 36% overweight and 26% ish obese now. If just overweight was on a upward trail it would be beside the point.
Being unhealthy will lower your cost on a socialized system anyway, so its not like it should matter to the government financially though. Obesity could save social security.
Hey Michelle, obesity is about 3874th on the list of most Americans national security issues, but you'll be pleased to know that your husband is #1 and you're #15.
Moo-chelle's problem with "obesity" has more to do with her own personal body-image issues than with any demographic realities.
The boob-belt fetish should be your first clue.
> boob-belt fetish
A true sign of a Star Wars geek is, at first glance, to mistakenly read that as "Boba Fett"
Save the Chubblitos!
Maybe more Public Service Announcements like these should be aired...
In 10 years, that $4.8 billion will grow to $20 billion, and there will be no evidence that it had any effect on childhood obesity. Why? Because parents don't want to say no to their kids. Why? Because they want the few hours a day they actually spend with their kids to be pleasant. They don't care about the kids' diets, they just want some peace and quiet when they get home from work. Cookies for everyone!
Of course, this is a race issue. Or rather a cultural issue triggered by a racial divide. There are many benefits to having the biological parents raising their young. Home cooking will be healthier than store bought or restaurant food because the home cooker cares about your well being, while the commercial food server just wants your return business. A two parent household will have more time for purchasing and preparing meals than a one parent household.
African-Americans have disproportionately more single parent families (usually the mom), spend more of their food dollar on fast food and have diet related health problems such as diabetes, high-blood pressure, coronary disease and obesity than Whites. Is there a connection? Hmmm, I don't know.
There is an television add for some fast food breakfast place that shows the harried African-American mother taking her children through the bank drive through and ordering breakfast.
Speaking of threats to national security, a recent report indicated that the disparity between academic achievement between young males of the Black and White persuasions could not be explained by poverty. Could that missing dad be the problem. Men should be men and participate in raising their children.
How the hell did I know this would turn into a race/single mom issue?
Michelle Obama is a public nuisance.
Oooooo, scary Libertarians!! If they get elected they'll leave you alone! Ooooo, how terrible wiuld that be?
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Do schools still charge for lunch? If so the only ones getting the fed food will be those with vouchers. Everyone else will spend their lunch money in the coming Snickers blackmarket.
The educational law I would like to see passed is the one that requires everyone in Congress to write a 15 page report on the 18th and 21st amendments before they are allowed to vote on any ban.
The government already decides what's on your kid's lunch menu.
The school board or a public servant such as a superintendent or principal or lunch lady has always made that decision. Or the city or the county or the state government. Government, government, government.
I'm an anarcho-capitalist, but normally L/libertarian will do in a pinch. Forget about the goddamn lunches, this is smoke and fucking mirrors, people--THERE SHOULDN'T BE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AT ALL.
To make matters worse, nobody cared about this until a black woman got involved and now everyone is shitting bricks. That's just embarrassing to me.
"To make matters worse, nobody cared about this until a black woman got involved and now everyone is shitting bricks."
Maybe because we're so used to white women doing heinous things in government positions. It seems more novel with a black woman.
I'm not sure about the peanut allergy thing, but I assure you that you are 100% misinformed about the definition of Obesity.
Most people would actually be nearly DEAD at 2% bodyfat. Unless you work with starving African children, I can promise you that you have never even MET someone with 2% bodyfat. In fat, men NEED about 5-8% of essential fat to function normally, and women need 10-13%. Supermodels have about 8% bodyfat...
In contrast, the AVERAGE obese person has at least 25-30% body fat or more! Also, I think we only need to look around to see that the obesity rate has gone off the wall... at least wear I live. I hate to use large claims like "national epidemic," but it's almost true in this case. We have horrible overall health (and healthcare!), for a developed nation.
So please, please inform yourself before you say things like that! 🙁 If you don't want to go read a book, at least go read the wikipedia articles for "obesity" and "body fat."
Er, that was in reply to "Junk Science Skeptic," btw.