Sen. John Kerry: Full Steam Ahead on Carbon Rationing
Today's New York Times had the temerity to report that congressional proponents of cap-and-trade carbon rationing as a way to address man-made global warming were backing down a bit due to the unfavorable political and economic climate. According to the Times:
As they watch President Obama's ambitious health care plan crumble, the advocates of a comprehensive bill to combat global warming are turning their sights to a more modest package of climate and energy measures that they believe has a better chance of clearing Congress this year.
Their preferred approach, a cap-and-trade system to curb emissions of climate-changing gases, already faced a difficult road in a bruised and divided Senate. Its prospects grew dimmer after the special election in Massachusetts last week was won by Scott Brown, a Republican who repudiated the federal cap-and-trade proposal in his campaign….
Senator John Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat who is working with Mr. Graham and Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, to try to knit together a global warming and energy measure, said this week that the political climate in Washington was already harsh and had worsened with the special election in his home state. Mr. Kerry said he had held talks with the White House, business leaders and fellow senators in hopes of finding an approach to climate and energy issues that can win enough votes for passage.
"I can't tell you whether it will happen this year or not," Mr. Kerry said. "But it's going to happen. It is inevitable that the United States will deal with climate and energy."
In response to the Times' story, Sen. John Kerry has sent out a press release today reprising his remarks at the 2010 Clean Energy, Jobs, and Security Forum, where he declared:
There is a story today in the New York Times--I don't know if any of you saw it--that suggests that we're somehow scaling back our efforts and caving in to some new reality that's been defined by the election in Massachusetts. Nothing could be further from the truth.
We are not scaling back our efforts. We have not changed our goals one bit. We are simply trying to figure out what the magic formula is to be able to get 60 votes but our goal remains exactly what it was before: to price carbon and to create a target for the reduction of emissions that is real. That's the goal.
Apparently, the senior senator from Massachusetts believes that the phrase "cap-and-trade" is a rhetorical loser, so he's simply redefined it:
We're talking about setting a target for the reduction of pollution, which is why we don't call it cap and trade anymore. It's a pollution reduction target with a private investment incentive (emphasis added) for companies to be able to invest in deciding how they want to meet the pollution reduction target. There's no tax dollars in it. There's no new taxes. Does it require a company to lay out some money for new technology? You're damn right it does,…
Actually it depends on how the emissions permits are distributed. If the government sells them, then it's essentially a tax. In any case, his plan for a pollution reduction target with a private investment incentive will increase his constituents' energy bills. But does the senator mention that in the press release? Nope.
I can't find the press release at the senator's website, but here's a Reuters story reporting on his speech.
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It is more than a bit ironic that Kerry, a man who started his political career by criticizing the Vietnam war, is now telling the country that the economy must be destroyed in order to save it.
There is a story today in the New York Times--I don't know if any of you saw it
Dick.
Well that's nice. Kerry's taken time out from the Democrat's circular firing squad known as health care to put a couple rounds in his own foot.
*Democrats'. Stupid premature apostrophation.
Democrats'. And damn you, spam filter!
He just wanted that fourth Purple Heart.
Man, too bad he wasn't president, huh? Friggin' brilliant man.
Looking at who we got, and what he did, I'm so glad I voted for Bednarik or Browne or whatever clown the LP threw out there.
You know, an LP candidate that insists he's an alien abductee would be better than anyone we've elected in quite some time.
Papa Smurf would have been better. Ironically, I was in Whole Foods the other day, and saw that they actually have vials of colloidal silver. I guess Mackey is a libertarian after all.
Uwe Boll for president! Screw that rule that the candidate has to be born in the US. He can challenge other heads of state to boxing matches! And he'll win, damn it!
Papa Smurf would have been better.
You say that if you've set the bar really low.
Papa Smurf was a benevolent dictator of the highest caliber. I'd vote for him over ANY HUMAN, hands down.
I'd pay the aliens to abduct our current leadership.
Your money is worthless to the noble savages who do not dare harm Pandora to mine the precious unobtainium.
I voted for this nut for Congress in 02. He seemed to be the most trustworthy. Sadly, he lost to one of those oligarchic candidates.
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/stephenbassett.html
What's in a name? That which we call a rose piece of shit by any other name would smell as sweet foul.
Apologies to the Bard of Avon.
Apology accepted.
"It's a pollution reduction target..."
Hell, that's easy.
Just quit pretending that CO2 is a "pollutant" and you're right on target without doing a thing!
PILTDOWN MAN! PILTDOWN MAN! HURR DURR HURR HURR! BLURBLE BLARG HOCK BLURBLE BLURBLE BARG!
"We are simply trying to figure out what the magic formula PRICE TAG is to be able to get 60 votes "
what's the carbon footprint of the Federal Government?
+1
Or Heinz Foods?
+57
Zero. Unicorn farts can absorb many times their own mass in CO2.
Look it up if you don't believe me. The science is settled on that.
Hate quibble JW, but recently released reports indicate that absorption data was either fudged or overestimated. A new study also concluded that, when you correct for certain magical assumptions, unicorn farts are only carbon-neutral.
Hate quibble JW, but recently released reports indicate that absorption data was either fudged or overestimated. A new study also concluded that, when you correct for certain magical assumptions, unicorn farts are only carbon-neutral.
ROTFLOL!!
It's a pollution reduction target with a private investment incentive (emphasis added) for companies to be able to invest in deciding how they want to meet the pollution reduction target.
I read that as seed money for a contract for 535 "contractors" to reduce the amount of CO2 that the Capitol emits, with extreme prejudice.
I, John Kerry, personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of Massachusetts in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied power of this country.
It's a pollution reduction target with a private investment incentive
Oh yeah, that's catchy. That'll turn public opinion around.
Lemme help you out, John.
It's a pollution an economic reduction target with a private investment lobbyist incentive
At least he's using steam power instead of carbon power. Give credit where credit is due!
No need to - Pharaoh Obama I already said that, under his plan, energy bills would necessarily skyrocket (not simply increase, not simply be higher . . . no, skyrocket, as in Zoom! To the Moon, Alice!)
Kerry is right in the context of there being no "new taxes" with the current cap-n'trade.
Those permits aren't taxes, its just a way to print money and not call it money. Because it's redeemed for money and has a value in money dictated by fiat, it is very much "legal tender." Cute. Kind of like the way CDO's were "investments."
It will be a tragic comedy, but I can see some pretty exotic derivative "financial products" coming out of Goldy Sux and Co. to take advantage of these credits; it will be the Bar Mitzvah Bubble 2.0.
Glaciergate
A relatively tame Hitler parody video
Glaciergate: Hitler's Last Straw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b-6U5MwyDM
Hey, where's Chad with his incessant "mankind is destroying the planet" bullshit? This idiocy from Kerry is right up his alley.
Strong commitments from Obama in his State of the Union address: firm support for green jobs and nuclear power and a push for the Senate Climate Bill. It will be interesting to see what solutions the panel finds for the hazardous waste generated by the $54-billion-nuclear reactors and how quickly tax incentives generate green jobs and whether Congress passes their Climate Bill.
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