In honor of tomorrow's holiday, here is Benjamin Franklin's famous argument that the turkey should be our national bird:
For my own part I wish the bald eagle had not been chosen the representative of our country; he is a bird of bad moral character; he does not get his living honestly; you may have seen him perched on some dead tree near the river, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the labour of the fishing hawk; and when that diligent bird has at length taken a fish, and is bearing it to his nest for the support of his mate and young ones, the bald eagle pursues him and takes it from him. With all this injustice, he is never in good care; but like those among men who live by sharping and robbing, he is generally poor, and often very lousy. Besides, he is a rank coward: The little king-bird, not bigger than a sparrow, attacks him boldly and drives him out of the district. He is therefore by no means a proper Emblem for the brave and honest Cincinnati of America who have driven all the king-birds from our country; though exactly fit for that order of knights which the French call Chevaliers d'Industrie.
I am, on this account, not displeased that the figure is not known as a bald eagle, but looks more like a turkey. For the truth, the turkey is in comparison a much more respectable bird, and withal a true original native of America. Eagles have been found in all countries, but the turkey was peculiar to ours….It is besides (though a little vain and silly, it is true, but not the worse emblem for that) a bird of courage, and would not hesitate to attack a grenadier of the British guards, who should presume to invade his farmyard with a red coat on.
Elsewhere in Reason: Nick Gillespie compares Ben Franklin to Jane Fonda.
Elsewhere not in Reason: Bill Kauffman, a Reason staffer back in the '80s, tells the tale of the time Franklin Roosevelt decided that moving Thanksgiving would stimulate the economy:
in 1939 Thanksgiving was to fall on November 30th, a matter of consternation to the big merchants of the National Retail Dry Goods Association (NRDGA). The presidents of Gimbel Brothers, Lord & Taylor, and other unsentimental vendors petitioned President Roosevelt to move Thanksgiving to the previous Thursday, November 23, thus creating an additional week of Christmas shopping--and to the astonishment of those Americans without dollar signs in their eyes, the President did so. (Not all merchants favored the shift. One Kokomo shopkeeper hung a sign in his window reading, "Do your shopping now. Who knows, tomorrow may be Christmas.")…
Although the states customarily followed the federal government's lead on Thanksgiving, they retained the right to set their own date for the holiday, so 48 battles erupted….This New Deal experiment in Gimbelism lasted two more years, until finally the NRDGA admitted that there was little difference in retail sales figures between the states that celebrated Thanksgiving early and those that clung to the traditional date. Without fanfare, President Roosevelt returned Thanksgiving 1942 to the last Thursday in November. Mark Sullivan noted that this was the only New Deal initiative FDR even renounced.
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[The bald eagle] is a bird of bad moral character; he does not get his living honestly; you may have seen him perched on some dead tree near the river, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the labour of the fishing hawk; and when that diligent bird has at length taken a fish, and is bearing it to his nest for the support of his mate and young ones, the bald eagle pursues him and takes it from him.
he is a bird of bad moral character; he does not get his living honestly; you may have seen him perched on some dead tree near the river, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the labour of the fishing hawk; and when that diligent bird has at length taken a fish, and is bearing it to his nest for the support of his mate and young ones, the bald eagle pursues him and takes it from him. With all this injustice, he is never in good care; but like those among men who live by sharping and robbing, he is generally poor, and often very lousy. Besides, he is a rank coward
To me though, the best possible Ben Franklin one-panel would be a screen cap of Michael Scott and the Scholastic Speakers Ben Franklin in the elevator at Dunder Mifflin. Scott: "Are you wearing a thong?"
Ben Franklin will be mentioned in my toasts along with the great bloggers of Hit&Run; like:
Attorney
Art-P.O.G.
Fluffy
Mister DNA
Episarch
John
MNG
Sugar Free
Warty
Xeones
R.C. Dean
J sub D
Elemenope
kinnath
Tulpa
P. Brooks
TAO
kwais
squarooticus
Tony
Chad
bakedpenguin
Old Mexican
jennifer
Alice Bowie
Hazel Meade
TallDave
Pro Lib
FitBunny
24Dothead.com
Lonewacko
jurisimprudent
Neu Mejican
Old Bull Lee
Cosmotarian
Shannon
Underzog
Wow, I can't believe I made that list. Thanks, LibertyMike. I donate the next swig of Vodka I take to you. I agree H&R is great. I'd like to thank the editorial staff, the technical/support staff and so many great commenters. And viewers like you.
.This New Deal experiment in Gimbelism lasted two more years, until finally the NRDGA admitted that there was little difference in retail sales figures San Diego Podiatrist
This New Deal experiment in Gimbelism lasted two more years, until finally the NRDGA admitted that there was little difference in retail sales figures Bankruptcy San Diego
It wasn't pretty: When participants believed they had no control over their actions ? and therefore presumably felt they were not responsible for their behavior ? they cheated and were more aggressive. Bankruptcy San Diego
I always love the "FDR changes the date of Thanksgiving" story. It gives an interesting insight into what went on in the man's head. Bastrop Remodeling Companies
Franklin Delano Roosevelt RUINED this country.
Sounds like the logical choice of emblems to me.
With the recent events (or not so recent) maybe the bald eagle wasn't a bad choice given that description.
Eleanor's thought bubble: "Mmm...delicious dark meat."
he is a bird of bad moral character; he does not get his living honestly; you may have seen him perched on some dead tree near the river, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the labour of the fishing hawk; and when that diligent bird has at length taken a fish, and is bearing it to his nest for the support of his mate and young ones, the bald eagle pursues him and takes it from him. With all this injustice, he is never in good care; but like those among men who live by sharping and robbing, he is generally poor, and often very lousy. Besides, he is a rank coward
That sounds like Ted Kennedy.
Or that other Senator, [insert name here].
I just have to give a thumbs-up to that comic panel with Franklin and the Kool-Aid man.
The Kool-Aid panel is pretty funny.
To me though, the best possible Ben Franklin one-panel would be a screen cap of Michael Scott and the Scholastic Speakers Ben Franklin in the elevator at Dunder Mifflin. Scott: "Are you wearing a thong?"
you could have Canada's national animal... the beav
http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/p.....beaver.jpg
Only if it's depilated.
I always love the "FDR changes the date of Thanksgiving" story. It gives an interesting insight into what went on in the man's head.
Maybe if it was a waitress instead of a waiter...
NTTAWWT
Happy Thanksgiving All.
Ben Franklin will be mentioned in my toasts along with the great bloggers of Hit&Run; like:
Attorney
Art-P.O.G.
Fluffy
Mister DNA
Episarch
John
MNG
Sugar Free
Warty
Xeones
R.C. Dean
J sub D
Elemenope
kinnath
Tulpa
P. Brooks
TAO
kwais
squarooticus
Tony
Chad
bakedpenguin
Old Mexican
jennifer
Alice Bowie
Hazel Meade
TallDave
Pro Lib
FitBunny
24Dothead.com
Lonewacko
jurisimprudent
Neu Mejican
Old Bull Lee
Cosmotarian
Shannon
Underzog
it is my goal to be on this list next year
Thanks for the hot stream of piss to the face.
Let's not forget:
creech
robc
Gilbert Martin
The Libertarian Guy
Mad Max
prolefeed
Not that bill
jester
Joshua Corning
and so many others.
I was wondering where I was, but considering some of the company, I wasnt sure I wanted to be on the list.
That's what I told myself too...
But, to be beaten out by lonewacko...that one hurt. At least anonymity guy isn't on the list.
Well, why thank you, Libertymike. Ill dedicate the blacked-out portion of my Thanksgiving to you.
You made one mistake: Tony's not great. You're thinking of his gigantic pus-filled hemorrhoids. Those are out-fucking-standing.
Happy Thanksgiving, faggots. Have some fucking metal.
Some prog and a possible Thanksgiving dinner idea.
robc you and that song are awesome.
And have some more.
Pro Lib
FitBunny
24Dothead.com
I had a dream like that once.
Whoa, that's pretty freaky. I mean a lot of women wanna get with Pro Lib, but I must admit the whole Lonewacko fetish is a complete surprise to me.
Cool! I take great pride in being "so many others."
(tear)
Whatever happened to Reinmoose?
IT'S YOU ISN'T IT!!!!???
Nah. But this whole post is making me think I should use a memorable handle.
Wow, I can't believe I made that list. Thanks, LibertyMike. I donate the next swig of Vodka I take to you. I agree H&R is great. I'd like to thank the editorial staff, the technical/support staff and so many great commenters. And viewers like you.
Art watches PBS! Strip him of his decoder ring!
hi,
everybody, take your time and a little bit.jhkfkuyk
.This New Deal experiment in Gimbelism lasted two more years, until finally the NRDGA admitted that there was little difference in retail sales figures
San Diego Podiatrist
This New Deal experiment in Gimbelism lasted two more years, until finally the NRDGA admitted that there was little difference in retail sales figures
Bankruptcy San Diego
It wasn't pretty: When participants believed they had no control over their actions ? and therefore presumably felt they were not responsible for their behavior ? they cheated and were more aggressive.
Bankruptcy San Diego
I always love the "FDR changes the date of Thanksgiving" story. It gives an interesting insight into what went on in the man's head.
Bastrop Remodeling Companies
thanks