The Secret Life of a Human Tattoo Machine
Why tats aren't just for Popeye, Mike Tyson, and Angelina Jolie anymore.
It wasn't long ago that tattoos were the exclusive province of Popeye and grizzled ex-cons. To sport a tattoo—the name of a drunken one-night stand, scrawled in a fading blur—marked the wearer as both low class and weak on impulse control.
Not anymore. About 25 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 50 sport tattoos, says the American Society of Dermatological Surgery, and that percentage is only going to increase as everyone from Angelina Jolie (who has scripted the longitude and latitude of her adopted children's birthplaces on her body) to Mike Tyson (portraits of Che and Mao complement a warrior face stencil) keeps upping the ante.
In Tattoo Machine: Tall Tales, True Stories, and My Life in Ink, Jeff Johnson gives a salty tour of the shops that nervous mothers once forbade their sons and daughters from visiting. As the co-owner of Sea Tramp Tattoo Company in Portland, Oregon, and a practicing artist who has wielded an ink-and-needle gun that "smacks the skin between 60 and 120 times per second" for decades, Johnson's got an endless supply of stories to tell.
There's the homesick Lone Star State G.I. who drew a copy of his state's flag from memory for the artist to create and then returned later shouting, "This ain't the flag of Texas, and I ain't no fuckin' Portugese!"
Musing on dozens of cases of surprise tattoos gone wrong, Johnson notes, "It's amazing how many people can't spell their spouse's name."
Woven throughout Johnson's funny, outlandish, and sometimes disturbing anecdotes about drug-addled tattooists who fall asleep while blotching the arms of customers, scam artists who promise sex for services rendered, and the still-at-large serial killer who embazoned his victims' names on his body, is an intricately rendered history of a once-marginal service industry.
The reason why old tattoos turned greenish-blue? The mercury necessary for a top-notch black ink was requisitioned for World War II. Thirty years or so ago, says Johnson, no one cared much for quality or cleanliness.
"The customers were drunks, bikers, weirdos, and college kids. But more than that, we the artists were predominantly fuck ups."
That's no longer the case, argues Johnson, whose affecting personal story from slacker to serious craftsman neatly parallels the rise of the tattoo industry from side-show to mainstream.
Indeed, Tattoo Machine helps explain why ink is on the rise. We live in an age in which we increasingly personalize our clothes, our coffee drinks, our Web browsers, our hair color. Why not our bodies?
The inks are brighter and longer-lasting, the designs more ambitious, and the shops today are clean and safe, says Johnson. At a few hundred dollars, "the quality of art is often better than what a middle-income person could afford to spend on a painting for their home."
And one thing's for sure. That flaming skull on your shoulder blade is a better conversation starter than a generic seascape above your fireplace.
Nick Gillespie is editor in chief of Reason.tv and Reason.com. A version of this story appeared in the Sunday, August 16, 2009 edition of The New York Post.
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Leather jackets aren't just for bikers and...
Man, there is going to be some ugly-ass saggy skin all over the place, in about forty years.
strike through16 years agoWhy not our bodies?
Why our bodies? It isn't "self-expression" to hire someone else to etch crass "art" on your skin. If anything, it's the opposite, a type of conformity.
Nothing says body personalization like getting the same tattoo as everyone else.
"At a few hundred dollars, "the quality of art is often better than what a middle-income person could afford to spend on a painting for their home."
Yes because nothing says art like that tribal band on my bicep or tramp stamp on my girl friend's lower back.
Of course in a few year if I decide that velvet naked Obama riding a unicorn painting just isn't as cool as it used to be, I can just take it down as opposed to having to have surgury to get it removed from my wall.
We live in an age in which we increasingly personalize our clothes, our coffee drinks, our Web browsers, our hair color. Why not our bodies?
Uh, shouldn't that be customize rather than personalize? Our bodies already are personalized - they're personally ours - and each one is different.
Tattoo haters.
I have only 2 tats.
One is where my lower back becomes butt cleavage. It says "Exit Only."
The other is on my penis. It says "Ma."
Sometimes that second one says "Massachusetts."
I will personalize my body when the techonology is available that allows me to change my body so that I can run a ten second hundred meters or have a 40 inch vertical leap or see through walls and clothes or something fun like that. I don't really see the point of tattoos.
Yeah, I think everyone's figured that out already, John.
Tats are sooooo last century, what with the incredible degree of self-mutilation going on now.
I predict the next fad will be intestinal braiding.
I predict the next fad will be intestinal braiding.
There is that whole tongue forking thing too ...
We live in an age in which we increasingly personalize our clothes, our coffee drinks, our Web browsers, our hair color. Why not our bodies?
If that is the case why would you put a tattoo where you cannot see it? It is a signaling device to the world: I am desperate for someone to pay attention to me.
Man, there is going to be some ugly-ass saggy skin all over the place, in about forty years.
Don't worry, the Obamacare plan will cover all laser tattoo removal with zero deductible and zero co-payment. Think of all of the uninsured today who do not have that simple right.
There is a bar tender at one of the places I frequent. Beautiful girl in her 20s. She has a nice face, short dark brown hair, and one of those tiny pixie like bodies. She has just the right look to pull off the 21st century post punk look she maintains. It all works well except for the huge collection of nasty ass tattoos she has down her right arm and shoulder. It just makes me want to vomit. It is like that idiot artist from Hawaii who painted cheesey dolphin paintings on ferraris. Why?
The other is on my penis. It says "Ma."
The one on my penis is similar. It says "Wendy."
Sometimes it says "Welcome to Missouri and have a nice day"
strike through16 years agoYou know what's sick? I'll tell you. Helen Thomas has a tramp stamp. It says:
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JFK
My tatoo is that I have no tatoo.
The opening paragraph of the article got things right: Tatoos mark you as lower class, even if you think of yourself as someone who isn't lower class.
Tatoos announce that you weren't satisfied with your body in its as-delivered condition.
And why the continued fascination with tribal tatoos? Isn't the history of Anglo Saxonry rich enough that today's tatoo-minded Caucasian can't find something other than some generic variation on barbed wiring?
Yeah, tats are neat.
I'm thinking about getting a face tat. Weasel whiskers or something similar.
strike through16 years agoYou know, the Nazis had tattoos they made the Jews wear...
I'd like to start a tattoo removal business. I think we're about five years from the fad dying. Then it'll be sailors, bikers, and prostitutes that have tattoos, as God meant it to be.
There's a tattoo "artist" on the street where my storage space is. Over his shop is a big, ugly hand painted sign that says "Tattoos by Wizzard".
If you can't even make your sign look good, why the hell should anyone trust you with something that's going to be on their skin forever? (I'm going to be charitable and assume the misspelling was deliberate).
Guilly Foyle had that nice "NOMAD" tattoo.
I have Maxwell's Equations tattooed on my back.
Has anyone ever had the entire Sistine Chapel ceiling tattooed on his/her flesh?
I have no tats and don't plan on getting any. But for a while, I considered getting a tat of the minimalist self-portrait my friend Matilda Fairbourne Foster used to often draw when she was nine and ten.
Tatoos announce that you weren't satisfied with your body in its as-delivered condition.
I agree. By the way, do you have any sons, and did you cut off any parts of their weiners?
Five years seems like a good guess Pro. Kids drive fashion. And tattoos are fashion. Every generation of kids wants its own fashion. No one wants to do the things their parents did. It shouldn't be too long before tattoos become something old and unhip people do. Tribal arm bands and tramp stamps are already comically out of fashion. It is just a matter of time before the whole thing runs out of fashion and a lot of people are going to feel pretty stupid.
"I have Maxwell's Equations tattooed on my back."
Loser. All the cool people have Durac's equation.
That flaming skull on your shoulder blade is a better conversation starter than a generic seascape above your fireplace.
The best tat I ever saw was at a Jersey water park. Photographically-real life-sized Colt .45 on a woman's (large) breast. I did not start a conversation.
No "tit for tat" jokes, please.
a lot of people are going to feel pretty stupid
Stupid is as stupid does.
Isn't the surgery angle also part of it? For a small tat, it costs about $200 (according to teh internets). In the gran scheme of things, that's not too bad as part of the TCO.
"I agree. By the way, do you have any sons, and did you cut off any parts of their weiners?"
You've had enough junkfood for today, Warty.
And on my chest: "And the Lord said Let There Be Light"
There's a tattoo "artist" on the street where my storage space is. Over his shop is a big, ugly hand painted sign that says "Tattoos by Wizzard".
You mean this guy?
You don't live in Jefferton do you BP?
Wow, buncha haters here. You know what the difference is between tattooed people and non-tattooed people? Nothing - except that I've never heard anyone with ink slam everybody who doesn't.
And to anyone who talks about "being satisfied with your body in as-delivered condition": got the same disdain for anybody who works out, loses weight, styles their hair, shaves, or wears makeup?
Contemplating getting a tattoo, Nick? If so let me offer you a little advice that may help you learn from my mistake. At all cost do NOT get a snake tattoed on your face. Definately go with the monkey, it's more appropriate for a facial tattoo.
I'd like to start a tattoo removal business. I think we're about five years from the fad dying.
Sorry, but it's already been done.
I hear the tattooed people are just as bad as the gun strapping freaks. Except tattoos don't kill, well unless you get hepatitis.
I'd have to flay my back to get rid of mine. I think I'll keep it.
Jesus, what a bunch of up tight haters you all are. I got a tatoo because...I liked the way it looked on me. I could care less what someone else thinks about it. Its often covered by clothes.
JD | August 18, 2009, 11:29am | #
Wow, buncha haters here.
You should see us when dog-shooting cops come up.
I could care less what someone else thinks about it.
Precisely. That is why you are defending your choice to strangers on a message board.
"You should see us when dog-shooting cops come up."
That is nothing compared to the dog shooting cops with tatoos who are birthers treads.
I once made fun of tribal armband tattoos to a new roommate, who then turned out to have one. Whoops.
That is nothing compared to the dog shooting cops with tatoos who are birthers treads.
....who didn't stop overzealous Christmas shoppers from stampeding a Wal-mart employee.
Xeones | August 18, 2009, 11:41am | #
I once made fun of tribal armband tattoos to a new roommate, who then turned out to have one. Whoops.
Did you screw her anyway?
What I would respect is a body tattoo of one's skeleton and organs.
JD, I don't know you, but can see you've got a real for saying it as it is.
Cheers
wow, this article writer is really up on the latest fads from 10 years ago.
actually, in my experience, both tattoos and piercing are seen as passe and over by the younger set (most of my friends are early-mid 20s and plenty of teen-aged younger siblings) and seen as remnant of the long-dead grunge rock scene. of course there are exceptions, but it's absurd that this is some kind of exploding new trend. I think he actually caught it on the downside of the curve.
You in Los Angeles Pro Libertate? If so I got the girl for you, full life size skeleton and skull on her back, starts at her heels and ends at the back of her skull. Or the other way around, depends where you start.
Pro Lib, I have a friend that has a tat from his knee to his ankle that looks like flesh peeling back to reveal a coil-over gas filled shock absorber.
I have a mole that looks like a spot of gravy. Chicks dig it.
Just want to go on a rant hereand say that I hate tattoos. If you're out of shape a tattoo just makes you look like you think you're not out of shape. If you're attractive and in good shape, a tattoo just distracts from the natural lines of the human body.
That is all.
Did you screw her anyway?
It was a dude, dude.
A friend of mine knew a guy who had Bill Cosby's face tattooed on his calf, with the caption "COSBYCORE."
It is the continuing realization of the retarded things I would have written on my body when I was younger that keeps me from getting tattoos. Basically, I don't think I'll ever really be old enough to get a tattoo.
Did you screw her anyway?
It was a dude, dude.
So the answer is "yes" then.
I want to get a ruler tattoo on my schlong. It will be graduated in centimeters but marked in inches.
SugarFree | August 18, 2009, 12:06pm | #
Did you screw her anyway?
It was a dude, dude.
So the answer is "yes" then.
Happy somebody got the joke.
Xeones is no fag. He only likes dudes who have soft hands.
A few observations-
The only thing worse than sporting a tattoo is the term *hater*
If people insist on getting a tattoo can we please remember the rules- men can't have one below their waist. Women can't have them above, particularly their tits or neck.
And now a bit of racial advice. I'm black. Hey fellow black folks, no dark tattoos, especially when you are Wesley Snipes black. That just doesn't make any damn sense. White women and men, give up the barb wire...please. Mexicans, stop with the cursive shit. As a fellow minority, I know all of you haven't been to prison, so don't get tats that look that way.
And ladies, don't just get one predictable tattoo. If you jump in the water, go all the way and get about ten. That way I can look at it as purely sexual and objectify you the way you want me to.
That's all for now.
I have only 2 tats.
One is where my lower back becomes butt cleavage. It says "Exit Only."
Are you sure it doesn't say "Two Way Traffic Ahead"?
NTTAWWT.
My work wife is all tatted up. She waffles between saying she has four and saying she has five. I know where four are. She denies a fifth if asked directly.
The only thing worse than sporting a tattoo is the term *hater*
Hater hater.
The only thing worse than sporting a tattoo is the term *hater*
You should get a tattoo that says "I Love Haters."
My work wife is all tatted up. She waffles between saying she has four and saying she has five. I know where four are. She denies a fifth if asked directly.
Time for an exploratory mission.
"My work wife is all tatted up. She waffles between saying she has four and saying she has five. I know where four are. She denies a fifth if asked directly."
How is it that your wife can have a tattoo and you not know where it is? Does she only have sex once a month in strictly the missionary position and in complete darkness and even then half the time substitutes a doll for herself leaving you none the wiser?
John, did you miss the "work wife" reference?
I'll get tattoos only when they come in programmable digital ink, so I change them or even turn them off.
John,
What hilly said and:
and even then half the time substitutes a doll for herself leaving you none the wiser?
Maybe. I have my suspicions.
If people insist on getting a tattoo can we please remember the rules- men can't have one below their waist. Women can't have them above, particularly their tits or neck.
This is excellent advice. I can't think of a single exception to this rule. And, neck tats are icky on anyone, not just chicks.
My uncle refers to my generation (Gen Y/millenial) as "Generation Tattoo." This is usually followed with a "...must die."
Dag,
I particularly hate the cleavage tattoo. It's entrapment.
Not a tat hater, and I will freely admit to not getting the attraction, but every time I have a waitress or see some other person in a low-wage, low-skill job covered in tats, all I can think is that they have decided that they want to be at this station of their life for the rest of their life.
And tattoos are the *worst* thing to ever happen to porn.
And tattoos are the *worst* thing to ever happen to porn.
Worse than gaping?
Wow, I feel like I stumbled onto Archie Bunker's personal website.
I've never seen a woman and said "She'd be better looking if she just had some tattoos."
Boss, da plane, da plane!
I've definitely seen some that I wouldn't think were nearly as hot without them.
Suicidegirls is a weird combination of ugly girls who get lots of terrible tattoos to try to seem hot, and hot girls who make themselves ugly with lots of terrible tattoos. It must die.
Tats are for carnies and/or people who are afraid to try meth.
The meth-using carnies will, of course, have tats.
It's part of the costume.
What about the fake suicide girl from Californication? She was super hawt.
Xeones is no fag. He only likes dudes who have soft hands.
It's only gay if they enjoy it.
strike through16 years agoJust a year or two ago this was a pro-tat site. The anti-tatters were violently shouted down. People brought guns to the threads and said crazy things. It was ugly!
My apologies sugerfree. My eyes skipped over the "work wife" part. Eventually she will break down and show you the fifth tattoo. It is just a matter of time.
strike through16 years ago"The Fifth Tattoo." Sounds like a cold-war thriller.
Women can't have tattoos above the waist? WTF? I know a couple women with beautiful back, shoulder, and arm work. Frankly I prefer that to leg work. OK, neck tattoos look ghetto. (Although I realize the irony here...some people think all tattoos look ghetto.) And while I'd never say that someone _must_ have ink to look better, I have seen really nice pieces that enhanced the owner, "natural lines" be damned.
I'm with JD. I'm personally not fond of lower back tattoos, but i won't complain about, for example, some chick's tramp stamp as long as she doesn't bitch about the three black teardrops i've got inked under my right eye.
Actually, though, i sympathize with this one.
We have some white knights defending the self-mutilated, I see. I hope now an offended tatted-up skank starts crying about how mean we are. Dagny?
Judging from my last trip to an amusement park - 70-80% of young fat unattractive white women have tattoos. I don't see how the popularity of tattoos among that demographic translates into tattoos becoming increasingly hip with taste makers.
If people insist on getting a tattoo can we please remember the rules- men can't have one below their waist.
OK.
Shut the fuck up, Warty. If you own your own body, that comes with the right to do graffiti on it.
Ha, man you guys are some cranks. Is anyone here under 65 and/or still using their original hips?
(And no, I don't have any tattoos)
I dont think Angelina Jolie's tattoos put anyone off...
For a magazine article I once wrote under duress (rent was due) I had to interview a zillion UCLA college and grad school guys about what they thought made women sexy. Tattoos were mentioned at least 80% of the time.
Now this was 1998 and obviously trends change, but there clearly was a time when tattoos signified "sexual edge" i.e. has hidden kinks.
"Now this was 1998 and obviously trends change, but there clearly was a time when tattoos signified "sexual edge" i.e. has hidden kinks."
Mari that time has long passed. I dare say 1998 was about the peak for the coolness market for tattoos. It has all been downhill since.
micro2000
I've never seen a woman and said "She'd be better looking if she just had some tattoos."
Feel the same way. I wonder if there's a connection between my fondness for clean lines in architecture and my fondness for clean (but curvy) lines in the female body. For me, tattoos just get in the way, making for an unbalanced, cluttered aesthetic that I don't care for.
"Feel the same way. I wonder if there's a connection between my fondness for clean lines in architecture and my fondness for clean (but curvy) lines in the female body. For me, tattoos just get in the way, making for an unbalanced, cluttered aesthetic that I don't care for."
If there is, I am the exception that proves the rule. I feel the same way about tattoos. But, I love victorian and greek revival architecture and would gladly spend the rest of my life bulldozing modern achitecture.
My girl came the instructions tattooed on: This side up, insert Tab A here, etc . . . .
Mari Dupont:
I dont think Angelina Jolie's tattoos put anyone off...
Meet me. I think she'd look much better without them.
For a magazine article I once wrote under duress (rent was due) I had to interview a zillion UCLA college and grad school guys about what they thought made women sexy. Tattoos were mentioned at least 80% of the time.
Makes me think of a similar argument to why guys like women who smoke: If they're willing to risk getting cancer, they're probably willing to risk getting an STD. Replace cancer with hepatitis, or the idea that tattoos are symbolic for promiscuity, or the idea that tattoos are a sign that the woman is starved for attention and might sleep with people to get that attention, and guys basically see an easier target for a one-night stand.
That might all be nonsense, but it doesn't stop people from thinking that way.
John:
If there is, I am the exception that proves the rule. I feel the same way about tattoos. But, I love victorian and greek revival architecture and would gladly spend the rest of my life bulldozing modern achitecture.
Oh, I'm fond of that architecture as well, but I certainly couldn't afford those styles in my home, so I'm glad I like modern style, too. But in those styles of architecture, I (with my wholly untrained, ignorant eye) see those details as almost a texture that's consistent with the whole structure, so it doesn't look unbalanced or cluttered to me. Certainly not in the same way certain people fill up their house with knick knacks, which would be more how I see tattoos.
Worse than gaping?
OK, you have a point there.
Tattooed gaping is the worst thing ever to happen to porn.
No problem, John. I get used to making the joke and forget it's not a term everyone is familiar with.
Eventually she will break down and show you the fifth tattoo. It is just a matter of time.
Well, she just had a kid, so hopefully she'll wait a while.
Well, she just had a kid, so hopefully she'll wait a while.
But not so long that she loses her udders, though.
"Mari that time has long passed. I dare say 1998 was about the peak for the coolness market for tattoos. It has all been downhill since."
It depends on the subculture. I'm in LA, and work in the biz. For a recent project, I had to review about 200 photos of very popular (i.e. money making) bands, along with a few recently signed ones.
About half are in their 20's and tattoos abounded. Clearly, someone with more pop cultural insight forget to tell them tats were "over".
BUT, to your point, mercifully few had the entire arm/leg/head covered.
Too late, Warty. Five days after birth she only weighted five pounds more than before she got pregnant. She ate like a pig all through pregnancy too. I should know, I helped her.
I'm pretty sure all the other women at work thinks she's in league with the devil.
Last time I checked, the biz wasn't much of an arbiter of taste. I would say the coolness market ? popularity or money market. Once tattoos were on boy band members, the coolness factor dropped like a stone.
Makes me think of a similar argument to why guys like women who smoke: If they're willing to risk getting cancer, they're probably willing to risk getting an STD. Replace cancer with hepatitis, or the idea that tattoos are symbolic for promiscuity, or the idea that tattoos are a sign that the woman is starved for attention and might sleep with people to get that attention, and guys basically see an easier target for a one-night stand.
That might all be nonsense, but it doesn't stop people from thinking that way.
Bingo. Aside from my subjective preference against tattoos, there is the psychological association of tattoos with anti-social behavior, drug use, and attention seeking. I don't care if anyone gets tattoos or not, as this is all personal preference, but I am pretty sure the research confirms such associations.
Way too much over-thinking.
Men like women who smoke because of the easily transferable nature of oral fixations.
Sorry guys, tattoos will never be over. They are still settling into their place in culture. And seeing as how Western Culture has yet to completely dominate the globe and absorb/merge with other cultures, we have a long ways to go. Tattooing has passed the counter-culture threshold and is firmly entrenched in the mainstream. Meaning it's no longer the subversive thing to do. Though as some have been getting at, the way to subvert mainstream tattooing is to do something outrageous. But when has outrageous behavior not been the subversive thing to do? And acknowledging this fact, does it render outrageous behavior no longer subversive? I don't claim to know what cool is, but what I do know is that I wouldn't look like Henry Rollins if I covered my body in tattoos. And Henry Rollins looks like a badass.
Oh, sorry, Episiarch, missed your The Stars, My Destination reference. Great book.
We love extreme sexy ink .........
The only tattoo I'd think about getting, and may just actually get, would be a small one with a short statement like 'Live free or die' or the Gasden Flag. Probably on one of my biceps, forearms, or rear upper shoulders.
Of course, I am a naval reservist, so maybe I also can get away with the 'sailor' exception.
Unfortunately, my hypothetical removal might not be covered under Obama-care. *Gives the evil eye to that bitch Napolitano*
I've got about 8 tattoos*. About half my left arm is covered and about 3/4 of my right arm. What all you tat-scoffers need to accept is that not all tattoos are created equal. Getting Gargamel tattooed on your lower back may be laughable, but getting Dirac's equations tatted on you is actually pretty badass.
In fact, I'm thinking about getting "Late to H&R threads" tattooed on my chest. 😉
*Yeah, that's right. I lost count. They started merging.
What all you tat-scoffers need to accept is that not all tattoos are created equal.
Completely subjective. You may as well try to argue which Pop Tart flavor is the best.
Tattoos are personal symbolism of an individual. No one has the right to judge a person simply because of his tattoo!
Now if someone had the Santorum thread tattooed on their ass, well, that would be good.
Followed closely by tattoos of the Declaration of Independence and/or the Constitution.
The fact that 25% of people -- yea, even paragons of taste and self-control like Angelina Jolie and Mike Tyson -- have a tattoo does not change the fact that they still "mark the wearer as both low class and weak on impulse control."
"Tattoos are personal symbolism of an individual. No one has the right to judge a person simply because of his tattoo!"
Spoken like a true fashion-following sheep. One of those fools who "rebels" or tries to "stand out" by doing what everyone else does. Where's the logic?
Two things to remember next time you go for a cool tat:
1. You are absolutely unique. You don't need personal symbolism to be who you are.
2. Nobody freakin' cares who you are.
Tattoos are one of the mystic form of art. There is always a meaning behind every tattoo inked to the skin.
Ha! This article is old, but I find it hilarious that the Google Ad showing up on this article at the moment is a body make-up that specifically mentions covering up tattoos as part of its purpose. It also mentions stretch marks and varicose veins, but the picture shown is of someone covering up an arm tattoo with make-up.
Wonder if Google knows that its Ad algorithm is favoring the side of the tattoo-averse in this argument.
My only point is that if you take the Bible straight, as I'm sure many of Reasons readers do, you will see a lot of the Old Testament stuff as absolutely insane. Even some cursory knowledge of Hebrew and doing some mathematics and logic will tell you that you really won't get the full deal by just doing regular skill english reading for those books. In other words, there's more to the books of the Bible than most will ever grasp. I'm not concerned that Mr. Crumb will go to hell or anything crazy like that! It's just that he, like many types of religionists, seems to take it literally, take it straight...the Bible's books were not written by straight laced divinity students in 3 piece suits who white wash religious beliefs as if God made them with clothes on...the Bible's books were written by people with very different mindsets..
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I mean, er, awesome thoughts, Liz - I need some time to think about this!
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