HRC's Crying Jag

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Hillary Clinton's show of emotion struck me as so calculated you've got to wonder if the questioner was a plant.

Let's go where a gullible and compliant—Clinton chokes up, is applauded, at campaign stop national press corps refuses to go—to HRC's history.

Monday's performance was not the first time she played the victim card, oh, no. In fact, in January 1992 it was very much Hillary the victim who saved the Clintons' political dreams. The pair's "pain in our marriage" sit-down on 60 Minutes stopped Bill Clinton's free-fall caused by the Gennifer Flowers scandal.

The interview told voters that Bill was sorry, Hillary was sad, but that the couple was together, resilient, and remade. A few days later, Bill "won" the New Hampshire primary by besting low expectations and finishing second to Paul Tsongas. Thus was born the "comeback kid," got Bill out of the Northeast with momentum and on to blacker and bluer-collar electorates. The rest is history.

Jump to 1994—the Whitewater, cattle futures, and infamous pink suit press conference.

With a pinch of fake bottle-blonde self-deprecation—she just did whatever Jim Blair or Jim McDougal said—a dollop of amnesia—Hillary could not remember just how the darn money got there—and heavy closer of persecution and guilt-tripping—"We don't fit easily into a lot of our pre-existing categories . . . And I think that, having been independent, having made decisions, it's a little difficult for us as a country, maybe, to make the transition of having a woman like many of the women in this room, sitting in this house"—further reporting on the topics was ruled out of bounds. The DC press swooned.

By 1998 it was "the vast right wing conspiracy" at work against her and Bill. Today it is not widely recalled that phrase was initially deployed to pre-empt the wild notion that the President of the United States had bukkaked an intern in a White House butler's pantry.

In 2000, the on-the-rebound and righteous Hillary was running a Senate campaign so buttoned-up and repressed that reporters openly doubted a candy basket from Hillary was really meant as a gift and not some dark manipulation.

Yet when making the press rounds for her 2003 autobiography, everyone was more than willing to help Hillary wallow in her victimhood. It all started at Wellesley, you see, where she just did not fit in.

And a year ago it was the VRWC Mk. II messing with the phone lines in New Hampshire. To the extent the sneak-and-peak Bush administration was involved, we are all victims here—but Hillary especially so, because those were Democratic phones, dammit.

In short, it is impossible to have been even slightly aware of politics in America the past 15 years and miss this trend. As such, the tears, properly understood, were far from "an uncharacteristic display."

Just more of Hillary Rodham Clinton saying and doing anything for power.

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  1. Who thinks the “Iron My Shirt” guy was an HRC plant? The only thing that makes me doubt it is that she didn’t have a snappy comeback ready.

  2. Golly! And some people call Hillary shrill.

  3. I’m no Hillary supporter, but “crying jag?”
    She welled up, probably for real, when contemplating her “woe is me, the men are picking on me” shtick after losing badly in Iowa. It will work with some and not with others. No where near as phoney as the time Bill was laughing and chating until he saw a camera trained on him.

  4. infamous pink suit press conference

    I believe it was later coined the “Pretty In Pink” news conference.

  5. I think we’re reading too much into this. Maybe she had just asked one of her staffers “do I look fat in these pants?” and they didn’t respond with “no, you look great” quickly enough.

  6. She seems really manic-depressive right now. Getting unquestionably shrill and angry at the debate, and then crying two days later.

  7. Episiarch | January 8, 2008, 2:13pm | #
    I think we’re reading too much into this. Maybe she had just asked one of her staffers “do I look fat in these pants?” and they didn’t respond with “no, you look great” quickly enough.

    11/10. for the win! woo hoo!

    Cesar – actually, she just hired Rick Santorum’s daughter as a media coach!

  8. as long as we’re talking about candidates emotions, why all this fuss over HRC and no mention of that priceless look on Romney’s face at the facebook debate when his opponents were picking on him? He looked like he was about to hit someone. I found it very telling about his temper.

  9. HRC is the ultimate rosarch test for crazy people. I do not support Hillary, she takes way too much corporate money for me but there is something really sick about the way she is treated. I think she is an opportunist who thought she could take the tired DLC talking points and win like her husband, she likely won’t, but assigning her every move as being motivated by malice and crass political maneuvering seems to be a bit overblown.

  10. Oh, and kudos, Mr. Taylor, for using bukkake in such a delightful way and reminding us that it wasn’t the famous dress that, er, took it on the chin.

  11. Just more of Hillary Rodham Clinton saying and doing anything for power.

    That’s actually why I think HRC’s Ed Muskie moment was genuine. A woman who has spent her entire adult life lusting after power might very well cry when she realizes she might not get it.

  12. For Christ sake I’m menopausal people!

  13. The reason this doesn’t work, Jeff, is because absolutely none of the victim cards she played before involved tears.

    Thanks for the listing of all the times Hillary Clinton claimed she was being done wrong. Good job showing that she doesn’t get weepy while she’s doing that.

  14. A is a B. Therefore, all Bs are A.

    Hillary Clinton does calculated things. Therefore, everything Hillary Clinton does is calculated.

  15. In live in Portsmouth, NH. The questioner (Marianne Pernold Young) was not an “undecided voter.” She is a prominent Hillary supporter.

  16. The questioner (Marianne Pernold Young) was not an “undecided voter.” She is a prominent Hillary supporter.

    Thats the biggest non-surprise of the year.

  17. All of a sudden I miss Michael Young’s posts on the Middle East.

  18. I’m hardly a Hillary fan, but this really seems like a stretch (though not as big a stretch as the “iron my shirt” guys being plants).

  19. Hillary Clinton does calculated things. Therefore, everything Hillary Clinton does is calculated.

    Nah, it just goes back to the idea that, even when the Clintons are innocent, they seem guilty.

  20. Hillary used the female version of the nuclear bomb in the argument, she turned on the tears. If it works, by God she’ll do it again, you bet.

  21. joe, Hillary is a calculating person, therefore, given the evidence of this that Mr. Taylor highlights, he’s made a decision that this, too, is calculated.

    I don’t agree with him, however…after all, is this crying things making her look, well, bad?

  22. All of a sudden I miss Michael Young’s posts on the Middle East.

    That’s just cold, man.

  23. All of a sudden I miss Michael Young’s posts on the Middle East.

    I second this emotion.

    You know, personally I don’t care much for or support Hillary or the Clintons, but people like Jeff Taylor really make me feel sympathy towards her.

    After reading this pathetic attack by Mr Taylor, I think I’m gonna cry.

  24. So you have a bunch of links reminded us of famous incidents where HRC was calculating. Huh.

    The question you ask if whether the questioner was a plant, and you ignore it entirely. And that is the only timely question, unless you believe HRC was just preparing to well up at any moment there were cameras and just the right question happened to occur.

    Also, I say “timely” above because, of course, you may feel that HRC’s use of victimhood is a relevant issue — I’d probably agree with you — but until there’s any evidence that this incident had any calculation behind it, I think Kerry’s observation is more on point here.

    I mean, you don’t need to know anything about the Romney-bot’s history to know his welling up when talking about Mormon opinions about African Americans was calculated — I don’t even need to provide a YouTube link. So why dredge up 10 year old links about HRC that don’t tell us anything we didn’t already know. And yes, regardless of what one thinks of HRC, it is impossible not to know she faux-emoted to save her husband’s career. I know no one across the entire political spectrum who doesn’t know that. And those that did forget were reminded by the sad performance of Mrs. Larry Craig.

    Anon

  25. ed wins the thread.

    Yes, they do, ed. Yes they do.

  26. “Monday’s performance was not the first time she played the victim card, oh, no”

    Indeed not – in fact that’s been her tactic from the very beginning of her advance onto the public stage when Bill ran for president.

    And of course the reason she kept doing it over and over again is becauase she continued to get away with it.

    And the reason she kept getting away with it was that the liberal mainstream media was ready, willing and eager to support her spin in each instance that came along.

    Hillary was as phony as a nine dollar bill in all of those earlier instances and she is just as phony on this one.

  27. Randian,

    joe, Hillary is a calculating person, therefore, given the evidence of this that Mr. Taylor highlights, he’s made a decision that this, too, is calculated. But given that none of this evidence demonstrates that she acts like THIS while playing the victim card, he’s engaging the fallacy I’ve identified.

    I don’t agree with him, however…after all, is this crying things making her look, well, bad? Actually, given her reputation, I’d saying showing some softness and emotion helps her.

  28. After reading this pathetic attack by Mr Taylor, I think I’m gonna cry.

    Review of Hillary media-manipulation performances = attack?

    Questioning whether a politically convenient show of emotion by a politician might be less than sincere = attack?

    Man, that’s some thin skin you got there.

  29. The Clintons have played the victim card against Republicans since 1992.

    Problem is, its just not working against a Democratic primary opponent.

    And no, I’m not going to feel sorry for someone who has been planning to run for President her entire life. Watching it slip away from her gives me great pleasure, not sympathy towards her. It actually makes me think maybe, just maybe people aren’t that stupid after all.

  30. It actually makes me think maybe, just maybe people aren’t that stupid after all.

    How does this observation square with Huckabee’s popularity?

  31. Your comment is sick and hateful. This woman has devoted 30 years to public service, not making money, and stood up for Dem causes and worked hard every day for her party. If I were her I would be crying too to think that not only the Right Wing nut bags hate my guts but Dems too? And not only hate me but are prepared to make constant misogynistic comments that make EMINEM look like a sensitive man? I dont know how she keeps going but she sure deserves better coverage than she has received, and that this disgusting post typifies.

    Read Kevin Drum at Washington Monthly people if you want to read something more intelligent than this pile on crap. I swear Hillary haters are going to alienate boomer women and men who like Hillary into doing nothing for Dems in the GE. Keep it up. I have sworn from the start to support any Dem who wins the nomination, but my anger, and the anger of her supporters who think she has received a historically unprecedented raw deal is rising the longer you creeps keep attacking her.

  32. It actually makes me think maybe, just maybe people aren’t that stupid after all.

    well, don’t count us out yet. The Demkids are still falling all over themselves to support Sen. Empty Suit.

  33. While Bill accepting Monica’s blowjobs was not part of the rigt wing conspiracy, the legal machinations that turned it into the impeachment crisis certainly were. Seriously now, was this something worthy of that process given what Bush and Cheney have done so far?

  34. The reason this doesn’t work, Jeff, is because absolutely none of the victim cards she played before involved tears.

    So, if Bush said he needs an AUMF to go into Iran, and backs it up by saying we know they’re currently making suitcase nukes, you’ll believe him because he’s never talked about suitcase nukes when he’s lied in the past?

  35. I think the way to look at it is the Little Hilary That Cried Wolf. If you are caught doing calculated things often enough, you lose the benefit of the doubt. The same sentiment as ed, just without the sympathetic nod.

    Recognizing a pattern for what it is does not constitute an attack.

  36. I’d have much more respect for her had she divorced Bill. She stayed with him for purely political reasons, which makes me ill inside. Watch for a divorce after her campaign flames out.

    Read Kevin Drum at Washington Monthly people if you want to read something more intelligent than this pile on crap. I swear Hillary haters are going to alienate boomer women and men who like Hillary into doing nothing for Dems in the GE.

    Oh noes! Anything but hurting Team Blue! /sarcasm

    well, don’t count us out yet. The Demkids are still falling all over themselves to support Sen. Empty Suit.

    Yeah, but better a nieve empty suit than a calculating power monger who refuses to divorce a serial adulturer because he might help her become President.

  37. Bill Pope,

    Clinton’s lying under oath and abuse of his presidential power to try to cover it up were absolutely grounds for impeachment. If there was a VRWC against Clinton, they must have been absolute dolts to go forward with it when the popular opinion was heavily on Clinton’s side…the Republicans lost a bunch of seats in Congress in 1998 in the middle of the impeachment, yet they continued to go forward with it.

    Bush & Cheney’s behavior is irrelevant, though if you ask me they should’ve been impeached long ago (Cheney first to make sure he never becomes Prez).

  38. I have sworn from the start to support any Dem who wins the nomination

    Run along, little tribalist. No one cares about your pro-Hillary tiny-person’s rage.

    HRC is a sucky, sucky human being. There you go, Jammer…I hope I don’t feel the full brunt of your internet anger! *trembles*

  39. Tickle Me Elmo in a Pants Suit?

  40. crimethink,

    First of all, he has talked about suitcase nukes in the past. Second, crying is not merely an extraneous detail here.

  41. She stayed with him for purely political reasons, which makes me ill inside.

    How the hell do you know?

    Do you have any idea how many men cheat on their wives and don’t get divorced?

  42. lol Jammer wins the thread

  43. Questioning whether a politically convenient show of emotion by a politician might be less than sincere = attack?

    In this particular instance, yes it is. It’s a hit piece by someone who obviously dislikes HRC. You can choose to be naive or downright dumb about it, but this post wasn’t really “questioning” anything. It was making biased assertions to portray Hillary in a negative manner.

    You aren’t a fool RC, so please don’t play the fool. You know damn well that this post was an attack. Don’t pretend it wasn’t just because you agree with the sentiment. You’re normally better than that.

    As to the thickness of my skin, it’s quite thick. Calling someone out on their hit piece (even when it’s directed at someone I don’t like) doesn’t make one thin-skinned, it makes them intellectually honest, unlike yourself.

  44. Do you have any idea how many men cheat on their wives and don’t get divorced?

    Among self-proclaimed feminists? I bet shes clearly in the minority.

  45. I think Jammer has a crush on Hillary. That makes me feel funny inside, and not “ha ha” funny.

  46. Nah, it just goes back to the idea that, even when the Clintons are innocent, they seem guilty.

    A classic Doonesbury from that time had Bill directing his staffers in a cover-up. The staffers said something to the effect that it would be easier to cover things up if they knew what they were covering up.

  47. Jammer = hier. ha ha 🙂

  48. joe,

    Whatever, you know what I’m saying. If Bush found a new and inventive way to lie us into a war, would you believe him just because he hasn’t done it that way in the past?

  49. As much as I despise the Clintons, I think maybe Hillary’s angst was genuine. Nobody will ever know, but until somebody pulls her head off to reveal the wires and circuit board, I’ll keep assuming she’s actually human.

  50. Just more of Hillary Rodham Clinton saying and doing anything for power.

    This criticism generally comes on the heels of an example where someone does something bad. All Hillary did was well up a bit. She showed some emotion, therefore she will do anything for power?? Please.

    How is her welling up any different from Edwards’ pretense of anger or Romney’s attempts at humor? It’s all an act at every moment by every candidate. Hillary is not special in this regard.

  51. So, if Bush said he needs an AUMF to go into Iran, and backs it up by saying we know they’re currently making suitcase nukes, you’ll believe him because he’s never talked about suitcase nukes when he’s lied in the past?

    Lying is lying, but crying takes another level of acting ability. Unless maybe she had peeled onions planted in her blouse or something? I wouldn’t put it past her, but I dunno. I don’t doubt Hillary is even slimier than the average politician, but I think this certainty that her tears were insincere is a little silly. That said, I don’t especially care one way or another, especially since there’s no way to ever know for sure so all the commentary on it is inevitably empty speculation that tells us more about the speculator than what’s being speculated on.

    Though I do mildly enjoy the cheesy drama of it all!!

  52. SugarFree:

    Today I was driving in my car with my windows down, and some young white male pulled up next to me at a red light and referring to my “Hillary: for president” sticker made the clever comment, “Excuse me, Ms. Someone vandalized your car by putting a sticker on the back.” I was so caught off guard I didn’t even know how to respond. He then continued with, “You’re joking right, that’s a joke.” I just gave him the thumbs up and drove away.

    Fucking awesome. “Young white male.”

  53. You know damn well that this post was an attack.

    I guess I was reading your complaint as being that it was an unfair attack, even, as you say, a “hit piece.”

    I didn’t see anything unfair or unwarranted in it at all. A straight review of her highlight reel, and a couple of perfectly legitimate questions. If you think that’s an unfair attack or a hit piece, well, I think your skin’s a little thin for Presidential politics.

    See, where I come from, speculating that Obama is a drug dealer (as an HRC operative did) is an attack. Pointing out the factual background for doubting a candidate’s sincerity, while perhaps an “attack” in some weak sense of the word, is neither unfair nor a “hit piece.”

    But that’s just how I use the terms. YMMV, depending on whose ox is being gored.

  54. “Calling someone out on their hit piece (even when it’s directed at someone I don’t like) doesn’t make one thin-skinned, it makes them intellectually honest, unlike yourself.”

    Hah – if calling someone’s opinion of Hillary’s faking this incident and citing incidents of her prior behavior a “hit piece”, then all the posts of people claiming she was being genuine can be classified as “shilling for Hillary”.

    None of you can prove that she WAS being genuine any more than the other way around.

  55. Cesar,

    I’ve known plenty of self-described feminists who couldn’t quit men that were bad for them, even when they would have been much better off with someone with the decency and treat them right and a bright future in urban planning.

    crimethink,

    Bush’s efforts to lie us into war follow a pattern. The Iran and Iraq pushes had some difference in the particulars, but their basic form was the same.

    Hillary’s victim-card-playing, same thing. There is a cohestive pattern to all of the examples Taylor mentions, and working up tears and making herself look less-than-completely-in-control isn’t it.

  56. Is this crap any better:

    “Today you can make your voice heard-you can insist that change will come,” Obama told a crowd Tuesday at Dartmouth College. “The American people have decided for the first time in a very long time to cast aside cynicism, to cast aside fear, to cast aside doubts.”

    No need to have a personality, just let me do your thinking.

    I loathe Hillary’s positions, but the schadenfraude from seeing the Robamats’ candidate lose would be so much better.

  57. “How is her welling up any different from Edwards’ pretense of anger or Romney’s attempts at humor? It’s all an act at every moment by every candidate. Hillary is not special in this regard.”

    or a candidate appealing to creationist supporters? or the same voting for DOMA or what not? or appealing to the Oprah crowd? all politicians in the race will do anything to expand their power. the HRC hatred turns it into some unique position to her?? She’s bad enough to have her fall on her own policy merits.

  58. Well, I’ll be darned. The woman who ostensibly caused Hillary to choke up (see this story: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/07/eveningnews/main3684135.shtml) worked for Jimmy Carter’s campaign.

    See here: http://www.pernoldphoto.com/history.html

  59. Good Lord, Gilbert Martin actually wrote something intelligent!

    Hah – if calling someone’s opinion of Hillary’s faking this incident and citing incidents of her prior behavior a “hit piece”, then all the posts of people claiming she was being genuine can be classified as “shilling for Hillary”.

    Quite true. It is not the subject matter of the piece that makes it a hit piece, nor the subject matter of Jammer’s comment that makes it shilling. One can speculate on Clinton’s insincerity without it being a hit piece, and rebut such an attack without it being shilling.

    It is the manner in which these things were done that makes the one a hit piece, and the other a bit of shilling.

  60. Dear St Hill:

    See You Next Tuesday.

  61. This post is ridiculous.

    In 2000, the on-the-rebound and righteous Hillary was running a Senate campaign so buttoned-up and repressed that reporters openly doubted a candy basket from Hillary was really meant as a gift and not some dark manipulation.

    What the article you link to actually says is that the reporters were “incredulous”, but it’s so much sexier to call it a “dark manipulation” isn’t it? And that’s characteristic of the writing about Clinton, where the worst is assumed and then promptly flayed. But I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised at all that someone can write an entire column displaying their HDS for all the world to see, without at all mentioning any actual policy position she’s ever had.

  62. Hugo Chavez in a pants-suit.

  63. oh hay hai Sage – hier! 🙂

  64. How friggin dare anyone out there make fun of Hillary after all she has been through. She lost her free house, she went through an impeachment. She has one friggin kid. Her husband turned out to be a user, a cheater, and now shes going through a political battle. All you people care about is….. readers and making money off of her. SHE’S A HUMAN! What you don’t realize is that Hillary is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about her. She hasn’t performed on stage in days. Her song is called “give me more” for a reason because all you people want is MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE. LEAVE HER ALONE! You are lucky she even performed for you BASTARDS! LEEEAVE HILLARY ALLLLLONE!…..Please. Paris Hilton talked about professionalism and said if Hillary was a professional she would’ve pulled it off no matter what. Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publically bash someone who is going through a hard time? Leave Hillary Alone Please…. Leave Hillary Clinton alone…right now! I mean it. Anyone that has a problem with her you deal with me, beacuse she is not well right now. leave her alone!

  65. RC Dean,

    I think Jeff Taylor was writing in code. Unfortunately, some of us lost our decoder rings at the laundromat.

  66. after all, is this crying things making her look, well, bad?

    When they first were showing the clip yesterday, I thought this was Clinton’s Dean scream. It first looked bad, especially the way both fox & cnn were showing the tightly editted clip over and over.

    However, 24 hr later, the coverage and commentary on cnn/fox as well as the mainstream left or leaning blogosphere seems to have framed this event in a way mostly favorable to Clinton.

    This event seems to be coming out as a net positive for the campaign.

  67. Hugo Chavez in a pants-suit.

    On Meet the Press on Sunday, the recurring Republican strategist character said that if Hillary loses NH, she’d become “Ed Muskie in a pants suit.” I wonder if he reads H&R…

  68. Unfortunately, some of us lost our decoder rings at the laundromat.

    I think mine is lost somewhere in my mom’s basement among cases of booze, my huge stash of pot, all of my gaming equipment, my porn mags, my Dungeons and Dragons game…

  69. Great post, Jeff! This is why I read Reason — because I can’t watch Sean Hannity while I’m at work.

    So, really, you think Hillary is calculating. Interesting. Tell me more!

  70. Maybe she should start wearing a dress. That would blow everyone’s mind.

  71. I can see how this could play out well for her. I mean, not this specific incident, but in general the whole losing thing. If she has something real up her sleves to turn this boat around, it will be seen as a collosal achievement, she’ll look more human, and a greater portion of the population will have warmed to her more. It’ll make her victory actually look like a victory.

    The major question for me, of course, is “can she do it?”

  72. I’ll be Reinmoose’s mom’s basement if you need me.

  73. Careful there, ed, a dress might show…teh cleavage! Ohnoes!

  74. ed,

    Maybe she should start wearing a dress. That would blow everyone’s mind.

    Bad idea. The tentacles would hang loose, and you and I both know they have a mind of their own…

  75. None of you can prove that she WAS being genuine any more than the other way around.

    Yes but the people who believe she was being genuine aren’t the ones asserting anything as fact.

    It’s the people who are stating unequivocally that she was being disingenuous/faking it that have to prove something, not the people who merely take her at face value.

    I don’t know if she is faking, but I do know that anyone stating with any authority that she is faking is full of it.

  76. Not only teh cleavage but god forbid, the beav.

  77. Anybody who actually believes Hillary has EVER been sincere is a fucking idiot. That people here are so deluded, it scares the shit out of me. JsubD, this post really felt gooood.

  78. This is the kind of hyperventilating piling on and overdoing it attacks on HRC that make people want to defend her. It’s actually what her and her husband count on. Jesus Jeff, take a pill.

  79. Is Jeff Taylor someone they keep in a box at Reason headquarters and release periodically to make Michael Moynihan seem objective and measured?

    “Hey Nick, MM just did his 8,000 post attacking Al Gore and Michael Moore, and people are staring to question if he’s a conservative shill.”

    Better get the gimp.”

  80. Episiarch,

    You forgot the kicker!

    And I’m not running for president. I can’t even keep my windows down anymore. Imagine what she’s going through.

    Oh, fuck! Oh, Jesus! If I keep my windows down someone might playfully engage me in a political discussion! Oh, the oppression, the oppression!

  81. Jammer:

    Your comment is sick and hateful. This woman has devoted 30 years to public service, not making money, and stood up for Dem causes and worked hard every day for her party.

    Stuff it, Jammer. She supported the war, then opposed it, then supportd it, and now the slimey polititian says she opposes it. She’s been the beneficiary of two Ruppert Murdock fundraisers, and she plants questions!

  82. You know what scares me about her losing actually? That Obama will make her Attorney General.

  83. Shut up, Cesar! Shut up! Shut up!

  84. Does anyone think HRC’s vote on the Iranian Guard bill hurt her? I sure do.

    She’s had a few votes and positions like this, where she knew it would be unpopular with Dem primary voters but figured hell she had it wrapped up and these votes/positions would help her in the general election when the GOP attacked her on national security or what have you. Now they are so coming back to bite her in her roundy rump…

  85. Cesar – that would be consistent with the type of person that’s been in the AG office for… well, years and years…

  86. This is the kind of hyperventilating piling on and overdoing it attacks on HRC that make people want to defend her. It’s actually what her and her husband count on. Jesus Jeff, take a pill.

    Hear Hear! Well Spoke Mr Nice Guy

  87. Going to Femministing posts is a step above posting Freeper quotes. Fish in a barell.

  88. None of you can prove that she WAS being genuine any more than the other way around.

    Of course not. But, given her history, I think I know the smart way to bet.

  89. “Good Lord, Gilbert Martin actually wrote something intelligent!”

    Good Lord, joe actually thinks he’s an authority on intelligence.

  90. Cesar,

    Spoil sport.

  91. Going to Femministing posts is a step above posting Freeper quotes. Fish in a barell.

    But the Feministing posts are vastly more entertaining and more pathetic and less creepy.

  92. But the Feministing posts are vastly more entertaining and more pathetic and less creepy.

    True. Its kind of funny in a pathetic way how every little bit of everyday American life they see through the Liberal Holy Trinity of Race, Gender, and Class.

  93. My 4:04 post with proper spelling…(Excuse me, please.)

    Stuff it, Jammer. She supported the war, then opposed it, then supported it, and now the slimy politician says she opposes it. She’s been the beneficiary of two Ruppert Murdock fundraisers, and she plants questions!

  94. Keep it classy, Jeff. Just remember, when Rudy cries, it is all about 9/11, and he only cries in a manly way.

  95. Here’s my opinion:

    It’s My “Party” and I’ll Cry if I Want to!
    Dr BLT as Beverly Hillarybilly

    http://www.drblt.net/music/MyParty.mp3

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