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Before or After?

Jeff Taylor | 10.20.2005 7:34 AM

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Does Harriet Miers pull herself out of the Supreme Court derby before or after the Nov. 7 start of her testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee? Normally I'd say before, but there is that Nov. 8 election day hanging around that might help to divert attention.

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  1. Baylen   20 years ago

    I predicted she'd be out by the end of last week. I'm extremely upset with her, and with the conservatives who failed to make her feel unwelcome enough.

  2. thoreau   20 years ago

    If she does pull out, she'll get a Presidential Medal of Freedom for it.

  3. Sandy   20 years ago

    No, the only way to abort a potential nomination is for the man to pull out before it begins. Therefore, Harriet must carry this nomination to term.

  4. ElamBend   20 years ago

    Me thinks Sandy is right.

  5. thoreau   20 years ago

    Sandy-

    Are you saying that a Judgeship begins at nomination?

    I support the Senate's right to choose.

  6. Jason Ligon   20 years ago

    We were chatting about this at the office yesterday, and someone brought up the very good point that, hey, I thought it was supposed to be good to be a Bush friend? This is not something a friend would do to you. He might as well have made her Chief Landmine Prodder.

    Frum at NRO is circulating a petition to get her the heck out of there here.

    If she goes, it would have to be the biggest mea culpa this administration has ever seen.

  7. Rhywun   20 years ago

    it would have to be the biggest mea culpa this administration has ever seen

    ...which is why it probably won't happen.

  8. Hakluyt   20 years ago

    thoreau,

    Barring some unusual events, the Senate will confirm Miers.

  9. Hakluyt   20 years ago

    thoreau,

    In the 19th century, the confirmation process was much less complex.

  10. andrew   20 years ago

    Hakluyt, I can't believe you're not getting the running joke in which Sandy and thoreau are engaging. Unless you're studiously ignoring it.

  11. Hakluyt   20 years ago

    andrew,

    Yes, its a joke alluding to abortion rights. And yes, I am ignoring it because it doesn't profit me to get involved in it and I assume that thoreau is being half-serious as well.

  12. R C Dean   20 years ago

    I think Bush is about to learn what lame duck means. The Dems are collecting ammo for voting against her (the Roe stuff) - business as usual.

    The Repubs, though, are looking around and not seeing any reason to vote for her. The only reason to vote for her is to keep Bush happy with them - the party faithful don't like her, the press doesn't like her, the only place where voting for her will earn any cred is in the Oval Office.

    Of a lame duck President with crappy approval ratings.

    I predict Republican defections.

  13. Hakluyt   20 years ago

    R.C. Dean,

    Getting rid of her and putting someone up who would spark a debate on the nature of the Court's role in our government would be helpful.

  14. thoreau   20 years ago

    R C Dean-

    I hope you're right. I hope they do defect. Whatever one might think about this nominee, it would be nice if once, just once, they showed some defiance.

  15. Johnny Clarke   20 years ago

    Ah, and just a short time ago he was bragging about all that "political capital" he was going to spend like water.
    Has he run out already?

  16. joe   20 years ago

    Johnny,

    He pissed away all his political capital trying to kill Social Security.

    Can you blame him for blowing off the small government conservatives?

  17. Hakluyt   20 years ago

    Johnny Clarke,

    No, he's just a second term President.

  18. Jason Ligon   20 years ago

    "He pissed away all his political capital trying to kill Social Security."

    I would say 'trying to reform Social Security in a way that required up front expenditures while already having spent too much money.' I think the killer of that debate was the size of the national debt and not the concept per se. The result is the same though.

  19. Hakluyt   20 years ago

    Jason Ligon,

    Privatization is going to be painful. To undo such a horrible decision as making SSI in the first place is going to take some effort and some "bleeding." That Democrats and Republicans turned out to be gutless wonders re: this issue isn't surprising.

  20. Dave W.   20 years ago

    I wonder, assuming that Miers testifies, but doesn't somehow make it to SCOTUS:

    Could Miers say things dyuring the hearings to hurt the next nominee? Help the next nominee?

    For example, what if Bush instructed her to say that she thought legal abortion was an unchangeable precedent and promised to abide by it. Would this quiet anti-choice criticism if the next nominee is pro-choice?

    I am not sure what the wise strategy is here, but if Bush/Miers are willing to sacrifice this nominee, maybe there is some strategic advantage in having her talk to the national audience.

  21. Dave W.   20 years ago

    I wonder, assuming that Miers testifies, but doesn't somehow make it to SCOTUS:

    Could Miers say things dyuring the hearings to hurt the next nominee? Help the next nominee?

    For example, what if Bush instructed her to say that she thought legal abortion was an unchangeable precedent and promised to abide by it. Would this quiet anti-choice criticism if the next nominee is pro-choice?

    I am not sure what the wise strategy is here, but if Bush/Miers are willing to sacrifice this nominee, maybe there is some strategic advantage in having her talk to the national audience.

  22. Pro Libertate   20 years ago

    Let me be the first to pledge $50 to Ms. Miers if she withdraws. An additional $50 for her if she convinces the president to nominate Janice Rogers Brown. Could Reason take up a collection? More importantly, would this brib--I mean, donation--be tax deductible?

  23. ElamBend   20 years ago

    Any predictions for the first republican to defect to democrats after next fall's election?

  24. joe   20 years ago

    ElamBend,

    I'll go so far as to say "a Representative from a rural area in the Southwest."

  25. Hakluyt   20 years ago

    ElamBend,

    Well, one of the New England Senators would be the most likely candidate. But that was always the case.

  26. joe   20 years ago

    I predict House, and not Senate, because the House is much more likely to change hands in the next election, and what's the fun of changing parties if you don't join the majority?

  27. panurge   20 years ago

    Whether or not she is confirmed is going to depend on Bush's popularity in about one month's time.

    When Ronald Reagan nominated Antonin Scalia to SCOTUS, Scalia was confirmed unanimously. A year or two later, Reagan nominated Robert Bork, but this time he was fighting the allegations of the Iran-Contra scandal, which had seriously eroded his popularity among the public and in Congress. Bork was, well, Borked.

    Watch the Rove-Plame fiasco and see how the GOP senators react. If Rove is indicted, they will certainly feel safe making criticisms of the prez and will vote agianst Miers if they feel like it. If only Libby or someone else in the White House is indicted, some may still feel safe in doing it but it may not be enough. If no one is indicted except maybe the White House pizza delivery boy, then she will be confirmed.

  28. Don Mynack   20 years ago

    Perhaps the whole nomination of Meirs is Bush's revenge for Congress screwing him on Social Security reform, a challenge that threatens to truly make them question what they stand for, a back door effort to make them position themselves as conservatives, so then he can drop that back on them and say "Well, if you are truly conservative, then how about taking a look at private accounts again and telling me what you think".

    Naw, there's no way he's that smart. Or is he....

  29. Kahn   20 years ago

    I predict Republican defections.

    We can only hope.

    But more than caring about Miers, I hope something happens to get spending under control.

    In order to continue hoping, I expect I'll have to take up sniffing glue. I'll let you know how it works out.

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