Persecution Complex, Continued
Before the holidays, I poked a bit of fun at the attempt by some activists to claim that Christians in America are somehow persecuted. But this press release, about a Secret Service prohibition of crosses on the inaugural parade route, sounded like it might be a genuine instance, even if the idea of this kind of "bigotry" (in the words of Christian Defense Coalition head Patrick Mahoney) sounded implausible coming from the Bush administration.
Then I took a look at the actual document the group's so upset about. The ban is actually on a wide range of "structures" including puppets, folding chairs, crates, statues, and so on. Since it explicitly exempts "signs' made of "cardboard, poster board, or cloth," a handheld cardboard cross is presumably fine, meaning this isn't a content-based restriction, but rather a general ban on big wooden objects, with crosses being one example thereof. (I expect if the Secret Service thought there was much chance of anyone bringing one, they might've specified giant wooden Stars of David or jade Buddhas too.) I'm sure there must be at least some genuine examples of anti-Christian discrimination; can't these guys find one to get upset about?
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They might have banned big wooden objects, but did they put high-power pulsed infrared lasers on the list?
No puppets at the Bush inauguration? Except for the one getting inaugurated, I presume.
"Then I took a look at the actual document the group's so upset about. The ban is actually on a wide range of "structures" including puppets, folding chairs, crates, statues, and so on."
Someday, me and my puppeteer brothers and sisters will finally be free of this form of oppression.
...We shall overcoOOoooomme...We shall over....
P.S. Does the ban apply to sock puppets?
That list of rules banning puppets looks really nice...
FOR ME TO POOP ON!
Even worse, this means that the heroes of Team America, who defend our freedoms from despicable tyrants abroad, and perfidious actors at home, are banned from the president's inauguration! It's a travesty, a sham, a mockery, a travishamockery!
Puppets are to marionettes as clowns are to mimes.
Does the ban apply to shadow puppets?
banning wooden objects probably would also, by extension, result in banning the following (in no particular order):
witches
bridges
apples
very small rocks
churches
gravy
a DUCK.
I'm sure there must be at least some genuine examples of anti-Christian discrimination; can't these guys find one to get upset about?
I'm sure there must be at least some genuine examples of anti-Christian discrimination; can't these guys find one to get upset about?
Anyway, isn't this a good thing overall? This is just one example of "minority" groups claiming discrimination where none exists. So doesn't that in effect prove what little they truly have to bitch about?
A thought just struck me.
Every time there's a debate about NEA grants we get told that if we cut off these grants we'd be banning art.
WTF, seems we banned religion about 215 years ago, then. Why the fuck are these pests still around to bother us?
This is going to be huge boon to all those Nurf cross manufacturers.
Some Christians are just having a hissy fit because they no long hold the sort of hegemony that they had in the past.
*gasp* Gay people think that they are humans too! And they've got their own TV shows too!
Some libertarian you are, Mr. Sanchez. Time was a fella could count on you people to decry a ban on anything and stick up for the righs of the individual at a public event in a public space. Crosses bristling with rusty nails, big jade Buddhas, bags of pus, machine guns, whatever, as long as nobody is causing deliberate harm to others.
You want an example? What about Tim Cavanaugh's revealing of my IP address in the now-infamous "Unborn Angel affair"?
s.m. koppelman,
I think the ban is silly and I don't support it. But its clearly not an issue of persecuting the poor, hyper-sensitive Christians.
crimethink,
You mean where you proferred your "every blastocyst is sacred" crap? 🙂
Gary,
Yes! Not that it was crap, but...
I suspect Mr. Cavanaugh's rash actions created a chilling effect that permeated the forum, silencing many here who would have rushed to my defense, but for fear of their own identities being disclosed. 😉
crimethink,
Which is why half a dozen or more bloggers rushed to your defense? Yeah right.
crimethink,
And yes it was crap. Your basic argument was that it must be conception if you think about it hard enough. You then repeated that over and over again. It was pretty laughable really.
Gary,
You obviously didn't think about it hard enough. 😉
For those interested in my actual argument, and not Gary's gross misrepresentation of it, we're having a rematch of sorts in the current abortion thread.
Since it explicitly exempts "signs' made of "cardboard, poster board, or cloth," a handheld cardboard cross is presumably fine
But Jesus wasn't nailed to a handheld cardboard cross!
Which is why half a dozen or more bloggers rushed to your defense? Yeah right.
Um, I think that crimethink's comment on a "chilling effect" was intended humorously.
crimethink,
A lot of folks were slapped onto a cross. You want me to be concerned with one deluded fellow who claimed that he was a God?
I hope your argument in the thread below turns out better than your claims about post-viability laws. 🙂
thoreau,
crimethink is a pretty slippery fellow; you never know with him.
I should start wearing a golden gillotine around my neck. Anyone know where I can get one?
I think this may very well be the funniest running blog I've ever seen on H&R...
witches
bridges
apples
very small rocks
churches
gravy
a DUCK.
Beautiful...
What about finger puppets?
I Am SPARTACUS!
Spartacus
Just My humble opionion, but public displays with wooden crosses aren't much fun..
And don't get me started about the puppets..
No! I am Spartacus!!
I'm Brian, and my wife is, too!
Remember when wrote that conservatives define persecution as a reduction in their degree of privilege? Well, there you go.
It's wrong for them to have to follow the same rules as everyone else. Their right to hegemony is being violated.
Jesus,
I didn't know you were into...fun!
first they came for the puppets, and i said nothing....