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To Deprave and Corrupt

Tim Cavanaugh | 4.7.2004 3:28 AM

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New at Reason: In honor of today's hubbub over Justice Department porn prosecutions, we give you an early look at Reason's May cover story, wherein G. Beato Cums Kleen about the new (or, to be specific, old) war on obscenity.

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  1. Jeff Clothier   21 years ago

    Och, mein Gott in Himmel. How tone deaf can this administration be? No wonder I gag whenever any right-wing Rep. utters the words "freedom" or "liberty."

    Watch for "porn is not a victimless crime" issue ads.

  2. Warren   21 years ago

    Sure the 90's were great, and if Rob beats the rap it will be "blue skies and green lights" for generations to come. But I was counting on my right to consume porn to be the umbrella that protected all free press rights. Now I can watch homosexual gang-bangs on my TV but not paid political content with an election looming.

  3. Russ D   21 years ago

    It's like Prohibition all over again. The wets vs. the drys.

  4. Sandeep Prakash   21 years ago

    The U.S. Supreme Court has in the past ruled against paternalistic regulation of obscene material. Recently, the Court ruled in favor of Playboy Inc., when it struck down Sec.505 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Sec.505 would have limited Playboy TV channels to late-night hours. Aside from Justice Scalia, most of the justices regard obscenity not as a moralistic issue but as a 1st Amendment issue, where the individual alone should have the choice of what material he or she chooses to view--not the government. But it will certainly be interesting to see how Ashcroft will go about his "war on obscenity", since the pornography industry's attorneys will definitely cite previous Supreme Court precedents that have ruled against the paternalistic regulation of obscenity.

  5. Sandeep Prakash   21 years ago

    The U.S. Supreme Court has in the past ruled against paternalistic regulation of obscene material. Recently, the Court ruled in favor of Playboy Inc., when it struck down Sec.505 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Sec.505 would have limited Playboy TV channels to late-night hours. Aside from Justice Scalia, most of the justices regard obscenity not as a moralistic issue but as a 1st Amendment issue, where the individual alone should have the choice of what material he or she chooses to view--not the government. But it will certainly be interesting to see how Ashcroft will go about his "war on obscenity", since the pornography industry's attorneys will definitely cite previous Supreme Court precedents that have ruled against the paternalistic regulation of obscenity.

  6. db   21 years ago

    Jeez, people,

    Don't you know that terrorists are raising money through illicit porn smuggling? All you wankers are simply filling the bad guys' cash drawers with the seed of terror!

    Shame on all of you, you dirty, filthy people!

  7. Dink   21 years ago

    You'd think by the tone of many of these posts that the current administration is permanent. We have elections from time to time. I hear there's one later this year.

  8. Hydroman   21 years ago

    Too much porn will make you go deaf and cause you to double post.Huh?

  9. Hydroman   21 years ago

    Too much porn will make you go deaf and cause you to double post.Huh?

  10. Hydroman   21 years ago

    Too much porn will make you go deaf and cause you to double post.Huh?

  11. Hydroman   21 years ago

    Too much porn will make you go deaf and cause you to double post.Huh?

  12. Hydroman   21 years ago

    Too much porn will make you go deaf and cause you to double post.Huh?

  13. Jean Bart   21 years ago

    Dink,

    Andrew predicts that Bush will win easily! 🙂

  14. Pete Guither   21 years ago

    I wonder if the Justice Department has plans for their new domain names... It's just entertaining to see the whois:

    Domain Name.......... girlspooping.com
    Creation Date........ 2000-08-04
    Registration Date.... 2000-08-04
    Expiry Date.......... 2008-08-04
    Organisation Name.... US Department of Justice
    Organisation Address. 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
    Organisation Address.
    Organisation Address. Washington
    Organisation Address. 20530
    Organisation Address. DC
    Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

    Do you suppose that there's someone in the Justice Department who takes care of the email addressed to webmaster@girlspooping.com ?

  15. Aaron   21 years ago

    Can someone please explain to me the difference between the current US administration and the Taliban?

    Well, you see, one is an unelected group of unscrupulous religious fanatics bent on using force of arms to make people, both in their native country and other places, live in a 17th century theocracy and the other bunch... um never mind.

  16. Patrick Banks   21 years ago

    Aaron, just a quick question for you - When was the last time Ashcroft and his goons rounded up a bunch of pornographers, porn stars and porn consumers and had them stoned to death in Yankee Stadium?

  17. Critic   21 years ago

    "Can someone please explain to me the difference between the current US administration and the Taliban?"

    Aaron,

    The current U.S. Administration dresses better.

    Oh, and they don't hang people in soccer arenas for going out on unchaperoned dates.

  18. Jim Walsh   21 years ago

    "Oh, and they don't hang people in soccer arenas for going out on unchaperoned dates."

    Yet...

  19. Aaron   21 years ago

    The US is bigger, better educated and more complex than Afghanistan. Give them time to get the MATRIX database in place so it will be easier to identify and round up the heretics.

  20. Jennifer   21 years ago

    I am a woman, presumably a member of the class of people these anti-porn laws are designed to protect. And yet, now that men can no longer get their scatological rocks off on girlspooping and other sites, I feel no safer than before.

    As far as serious Taliban comparisons are concerned, I'd guess about a twenty-five-percent chance that within my lifetime a Christian Taliban will try and make it illegal for me and my boyfriend to continue living together without marriage. I am far, far less icky than what you'll find on most porn sites, but in all honesty I'm probably a bigger threat to conventional family values.

  21. MALAK   21 years ago

    REPENT NOW JENNIFER!! Thou art a scarlet letter on the page of the democracy that is the US of A. Oh the hell with it. I can't even type this with a straight face . . . Puritans will be used as coals in the fires of hell. The better to warm our little tootsies by. Pax vobiscum

  22. Jeff A. Taylor   21 years ago

    Pete:

    Damn good question that I do not know the answer to. But I do know that all my responses to Nigerian 419 scam mail will henceforth cc webmaster@girlspooping.com.

    Because it is the right thing to do.

  23. Dan   21 years ago

    Can someone please explain to me the difference between the current US administration and the Taliban?

    You're still alive.

  24. Jennifer   21 years ago

    The difference between the Taliban and our government is that the Taliban got to do whatever it wanted, whereas the government is constrained by secular law. For now, anyway. Remember: just because it hasn't happened here, doesn't mean it can't.

  25. Aaron   21 years ago

    Dan borrow a clue from Jennifer. The point was our fascists would be lining up the unrepentant for a stoning tomorrow if there was any way they thought they could get away with it. In spite of Jr's ongoing slide in the polls, they continue to work to erode the very civil right that prevent them from dictating to the populous how to live. It's early in the game and given the right "terrorist crisis" during a 2nd term they still might go on a witch hunt.

  26. dragoon   21 years ago

    Jennifer: cohabitation is illegal in seven states. The LA Times did a piece on it recently, where they looked at a couple in North Carolina. They moved there from New York, and when the woman went to register for probation, she was informed she was breaking a law and they couldn't accept her. Law's from 1805, and was prosecuted six times last year.

    LA Times article is at http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-moral28mar28,0,1572067.story?coll=la-headlines-nation.

  27. kwais   21 years ago

    "I am far, far less icky than what you'll find on most porn sites"

    Jennifer, specifics and pictures please.

  28. kwais   21 years ago

    On a more serious note,
    We are miles away from being governed by Taliban types. But if you want a view to what it would be like if we were a lot more similar to the Taliban, tune into the '700 Club' on any given night.

    The 700 clup is to various religions what the Neo Nazis are to various races.

  29. Jennifer   21 years ago

    Dragoon-
    Jesus Christ. I swear, I'm not even going to TRY to be sarcastic anymore.

  30. Jennifer   21 years ago

    Dragoon-
    Just read the story again; somehow I skipped the part about the judge who will not allow criminal defendants out of his courtroom unless they marry or move out. Why, why, WHY does this crap still go on in the US in 2004? Oh yeah, because the US government engages in good, wholesome Christian repression, not that evil MUSLIM repression you get from the Taliban. I believe Joan of Arc's last words were "This here is okay, but if it was MUSLIMS burning me at the stake, THEN I'd be pissed."

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