No Self-Defense Please, We're British
Reader Nathan Centofanti sends a link to this story in England's Independent:
Government lawyers say burglars 'need protection'
By Robert Verkaik, Legal Affairs Correspondent
05 May 2003
Government lawyers trying to keep the Norfolk farmer Tony Martin behind bars will tell a High Court judge tomorrow that burglars are members of the public who must be protected from violent householders.
The case could help hundreds of criminals bring claims for damages for injury suffered while committing offences….
Martin had shot two burglars (killing one) in his house.
Historian Joyce Malcolm analyzed how England has been undermining the right to self defense in the November issue of Reason. Read her take here.
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Unless someone has statistics proving me wrong, a major part of the problem would seem to be immigration. See this and this.
Didn’t the other prisoners in the institution that Martin was being held try to lynch him? Can anyone confirm this story?
Guys, I love the steak & kidney pie and the cola (yours is 91mL less than ours!), but fuck if I’m going to let some thug kill me a kings cross trying to get on the train.
-Robert
Oh and while we’re on the topic: Could someone tell me why after this and their desire to have video cameras on every street corner and to rid themselves of the right to trial by jury WHY DID WE BOTHRER TO SAVE THESE PRISSY BRITISH BASTARDS FROM THE NAZIS!?!?!?
Oh and while we’re on the topic: Could someone tell me why after this and their desire to have video cameras on every street corner and to rid themselves of the right to trial by jury WHY DID WE BOTHRER TO SAVE THESE PRISSY BRITISH BASTARDS FROM THE NAZIS!?!?!?
Remember the song the Redcoats sung, as they were being herded aside after their surrender at Yorktown? ?The world has turned upside down.? (or some such rhyme to that effect.)
When I read, ?burglars . . . must be protected from violent householders.? I realized that the British world has (again) been turned upside down.
So let them keep up this insanity. Let this dementia run its course to its logical conclusion. Such topsy-turvy reasoning can only lead to disaster of unfathomable proportions. I can?t wait to see the ending of this tragedy. (Or is it a comedy?)
Holy Shit. Are these the same assholes who want to ban spanking?
They must have adopted pacifism as a political philosophy. All violence is wrong, regardless of circumstance. OK, now jive that with the fact that they are pretty much the only western European nation to support the war in Iraq. I guess it’s OK if the violence is against foreigners…..
Cornwallis,
That was a popular folk ballad with variants throughout Europe that was sung at festivals where beggars were crowned as kings and the like for the day. Festivals where popular and high culture merged and the former trumped the latter were common throughout Europe in the middle ages, renaissance, etc.
I never knew my early modern Europe seminars would have any use. 🙂 Anyone want to hear about how the adversarial relationship between laywers is influenced by medieval and early modern dueling? 🙂
“adversarial relationship between laywers is influenced by medieval and early modern dueling”
C’mon, Croesus, interesting studies, but this should be rather obvious, shouldn’t it?
(Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to go back to my Everquest game.)
When I read the British Newspaper the Guardian and read the talkboards and see the vile anti-american material posted by the editors of the Guardian I realize that the British are not friends of the United States. British bastards does not quite do justice to the scum who infest the United Kingdom. The Brits started both wars, funded communism and hate the United States. They committed atrocities in America beyond comprehension. Thirteen thousand men, women and chioldren lie in a mass grave in Fort Green Park Brooklyn, tortured to death during the revolution. England is a sewer and the atrocities the Brits committed in Ireland should have landed them in the International Court. Brits are the low-lifes of the planet earth. Eurotrash.
Just remember you yanks would be nothing without us british. Don’t forget that it was a brit who founded your country, that you stole from the American Indians who were there before you. You raped, killed, murdered innocent women and children all because you wanted there land and you have practically forced them out of their country. forced being a light term.
You complain that we talk funny. Youre the ones whole stole our language, if it wasn’t for a few percent of american voters in the 1700’s you would have all been speaking German by now. It’s our language give it back, or at least speak it correctly and spell words how their supposed to sound and be spelt.
Dont forget that 45% of the world (you making up 20& of it) bloody hate you and Us the so called british bastards are one of the only countries that actually support you. Eg we helped you fight in afghanistan and Iraq and we did a damn better job at it than you. We go in peacefully and with respect and you go in with guns, tanks, outrageous uniform which is enough to make George washington cringe. At least we have a decent army that is not capable of FRIENDLY FIRE. We have the 2nd toughest, best army in the world. 1st being israel.
Yeah we screwed up in 1776 but you have buggered up since you have been there, Murdering innocent Indians, Turning up late for wars, The civil war, the kkk George Bush. Your country is so full of hate and anger, I guess thats why your so “powerfull”. I Hate George Bush (and I hate tony Blair) blair is basically a deputy to George’s attrocities.
You would be nothing without us. You have the 3rd most powerful country in the world at your knees dont lose us. Were the strongest ally you will ever have.
As homer simpson said “We are your Children”
“The Brits started both wars”
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Possibly the most ahistorical comment i have ever read!!