Campus Contraception
More on attempts to control the morning after.
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"Freshmen, especially, are young and dumb"
True, but only a slut doesn't make a dude wear a raincoat.
Nice anonymous post. I hope you're not dumb enough to believe that "raincoats" are 100% effective. Dude.
To anonymous: a curse: may you have sex with a condom and have it break and suffer the consequences.
Gee, it seems to me that the morning after pill is a better option than the three months after operation. But to make some good PR, they could produce a student film for that pill and use the song from the Posiedon Adventure Irwin Allen flick as the soundtrack.
"There has to be a morning after...."
my point is with a comment like that it clearly wasn't her long-time boyfriend that knocked her up. she put out and wasn't ready for the consequences (she should have stuck to giving head). did the other girl mentioned deserve to get sexual assalted by multiple men? no, but she certainly probably was drunk and put her self in dangerous position.
No doubt the university gives the pills away for "free", creating an incentive for slutty girls to spread VDs all over campus. I have no problem with the pills but the fact this is an issue shows how corrupt our culture has become.
Thank you for reminding the degenerates out there that it is the sole responsibility of women to guard against indiscriminate sex, the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, and sexual assault.
And the article said the pills cost $15. Is that enough of a disincentive for slutty girls to spread disease all over campus? Or would $20 be better?
I think girls could best avoid pregnancy by not having sex with assholes like that Mr. Anonymous there. Shouldn't be too hard.
I think he was just baiting commenters. I hope so.
Condoms are nearly 100% effective for people who are not intoxicated during their use. 'guess that makes 'em about 30% effective on any college campus...
Other Joe--
Prove it.
I don't know _anyone_ who's used condoms regularly who hasn't had one break or slip off _at least_ once...drunk, high, sober, whatever. They're certainly better than nothing, but far from foolproof. Hence the need for emergency contraception.
Shouldn't we just be telling our kids to take it in the butt? You can't have ass babies.
But if we could, wouldn't that be weird?
md-
I agree that the Morning After Pill and RU-486 are different drugs, with a bright line between them- I just happen to think both should be legal.
My problem with the bright line isn't the availablity- it's the balance between keeping them available for use, and protecting them from abuse.
ps: Letting people know it's available- education.
Encouraging people to get it- advertising.
Two points for our anonymous contributor:
1. It is well within everyone's rights to be a "slut."
2. There is nothing new about casual sex. This is not a defense of casual sex--a practice so obviously popular need me to defend it. But you can read, say, Fielding's _Tom Jones_, and see it reflected. Or, for something completely different, try the ancient Chinese _Book of Odes_, where "illicit" liasons are the stuff of song (send me an email for the reading list). To say nothing of social commentary like:
http://www.theonion.com/onion3915/dvd_collection.html
Geophile: what about cloned ass mammoths?
A joke:
Woman: Doctor, is it possible to get pregnant from anal sex?
Doctor: Of course it is, my dear! That's how lawyers are born!
I found the students opposed to the morning after pill to be particularly interesting...
"The university isn't here to solve the mistakes of the students," he said. "If students are going to be sexually active, they're going to have to take the consequences"
This is a fascinating argument, people- he's arguing that unwanted children should be born (most likely to a drop-out single mom, living in poverty) to teach these women a lesson- children as PUNISHMENT. (Similiar to AIDS/Syphilis/The clap/etc..- complete with the same "asinine" reasoning).
I happen to think children should be born into families of people that want them- call me old fashioned...
(Does raise the question of the universities role though- personally, I think of the morning after pill in the same way as a condoms- not everybody is going to need them, but they should be there when people do, by god...)
My problem with the morning after pill is that at some universities (University of Virginia for one), they are advertised and marketed. Before spring break, there are signs saying "Get your Plan B." The health centers walk a fine line between offering emergency contraception and encouraging young women to be careless. The emergency contraception is not 100% effective, and of course, does not protect against STDs.
md-
I have a similair problem with abortions. I've known women whose abortion allowed them to follow their dreams, and enrich all of us in the process. I've also known women who used abortion as a birth control method (not sure how they afforded it- praying it wasn't gov't subsidized).
(Former sex-ed counselor- it's not like my friends are always getting abortions..)
I believe it's a similair situation to your problem with the morning after pill- keeping it available without endorsing it or making false claims. Wish I saw a bright line to be made, but I don't.
I will say (in UVa's defense) that with the 72 hour window period and the difficulty obtaining the pill on some campuses, informing students it's available is nescessary if it's to do what it's supposed to do (prevent abortion, college drop-outs, and poverty). That said, there's a world of difference between advertising and education...
"I happen to think children should be born into families of people that want them- call me old fashioned"
Thank you Real!! That is what I've been saying over at The Agitator. Tho it appears some feel women shouldn't have sex unless they want a child.
My problem wasn't with advertising its availability. It was advertising it as a "must have" for one's spring break trip. That said, there's a world of difference between a pill that expels a fertilized egg before it implants, and a procedure or pill that expels an already growing embryo or fetus. Extremists on either side will dispute this. But in an area in which lines have to be drawn somewhere, that's where mine is.