Tonight on The Independents: Donald Sterling Controversy, Rep. Darrell Issa, Rep. Jared Polis, Mike Baker, John Kerry’s ‘Apartheid,’ Plus After-Show (Then Vape-in)

So deeply awesome. |||Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT) begins as everything else has over the past 48 or so hours: with a discussion of Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, and those bizarre, racist things he said on a taped telephone conversation with his ex-girlfriend. Joining to discuss the controversies are Party Panelists Brooke Goldstein (director, Lawfare Project) and Baratunde Thurston ("Comedian, Author, Entrepreneur"). The duo will return later in the show to discuss the Secretary of State John Kerry's mildly controversial statement that Israel may end up becoming "an apartheid state."

Two-time guest Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) will be back, talking about what in the federal government he'd be willing to cut. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) will also join, to talk about efforts to hold former IRS official Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress, and also about his own Digital Accountability and Transparency Act. Former CIA operator and current surveillance enthusiast Mike Baker will lock horns with the co-hosts over NSA chief Keith Alexander's latest comments.

After-show can be found at foxbusiness.com/independents at 10 p.m. sharp. If you're in New York, come on by the Museum of Sex to see most of the co-hosts at Reason's "Thank You for Vaping" event. The show's Facebook page is at facebook.com/IndependentsFBN; follow on Twitter @ independentsFBN, and click on this page for video of past segments.

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  • Dances-with-Trolls||

    Wait the owner of the Clippers said something racist? Hadn't heard.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Well, hold onto your hat, because I've got some really bad news about Lou Reed.

  • BigT||

    Reed's latest album bomb?

  • Swiss Servator ...nichts||

    Wait until you hear how the Cleveland Browns have been holding up against expectations...

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Race should not be a political issue but sadly it is. The horrible but waning policy of affirmative action is partly to blame. But that alone does not explain how the GOP has become the party on greasy-haired anti-science rednecks. Let the culture wars continue to be defined by our worst elements because they get the most press by far.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Wow, you have quite a lingering case of Bush Derangement Syndrome. Have you seen a professional for it?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I did not see that GOP partisan dig coming from you Shreek. You're so dynamic.

  • ||

    He's terribly predictable and boring.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    It is sad this cultural divide.

    I am pro-choice, pro-drug, pro-science, pro-gay, pro-immigrant, and 100% secularist.

    There is no way I can support Team Red.

    I can support libertarians though - in fact I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012.

  • ||

    You're your own "Ground Hog Day".

  • ||

    You forgot 100% Real because Team Blue left-wingers like you are reality-based.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Uh...we don't want you.

  • Mint Berry Crunch||

    shrike when you were lecturing us this weekend about how poor people now vote GOP, you didn't get a chance to answer my question. So I'll ask it again.

    Do the sections labeled 2011 total family income tend to support or refute your statement that poor people vote Republican?

    Also,

    There is no way I can support Team Red.

    Really? You didn't just say a few days ago you'd support Rand Paul if it was him vs. Hillary?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I didn't claim poor people vote GOP - I claimed most food stamps recipients did.

    To be accurate the Bloomberg survey found DISTRICTS that had the most food stamp recipients voted GOP (not necessarily the recipients themselves). That is a subtle distinction but a real one.

    Yes, I will support Rand Paul over Hillary based on her Iraq War vote. She fucked up.

  • Big Chief||

    Actually it said the majority of counties with the highest % of food stamp recipients were in GOP districts. It only stated how one county voted. And they only had data on 2/3 of the counties in the US so we can't even be certain that these really are the counties with the highest % of food stamp recipients. It was really a worthless report.

  • ||

    http://bit.ly/1rotGBH

    Not according to Pew.

  • Michael||

    Nobody here gives a flying fuck about what you support, what you oppose or who you voted for. You're an insufferable prick that's about as exciting as a pair of wet socks.

  • ||

    Aren't wet socks more exciting than dry ones?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    You have got to be kidding.

    You act like a complete asshole, and then say "Gee, it's a shame we can't get along!".

  • PapayaSF||

    Perhaps a new Media Matters intern has taken over the Buttplug trolling account.

  • Sevo||

    "You act like a complete asshole, and then say "Gee, it's a shame we can't get along!"."

    And insults you with lies at the same time.
    How
    .
    .
    .
    .
    slimy.

  • Duke||

    But that alone does not explain how the GOP has become the party on greasy-haired anti-science rednecks.

    Sounds like you're a reasonable and tolerant person.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I am to libertarians. Just not to Team Red guys like yourself.

  • Duke||

    You're also omniscient. How lovely!

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    OH ZINGGGGG!!! GOOD ONE SHREEK!!

  • BigT||

    Yeah, Sterling is such a dumb elephant he gave money to the jackass party. Twice.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "John XXIII: The 'Best Pope for The Jewish People'

    "Holocaust scholar says John XXIII saved thousands during Holocaust, persuaded Vatican not to oppose Israel independence.

    "Pope John XXIII, who [was] canonized on Sunday, was "the best pope in history for the Jewish people," says [Baruch Tenembaum] one of the founders of the International Raoul Wallenberg Foundation....

    "As the Vatican's envoy to Turkey from 1935, John XXIII helped save the lives of thousands of Eastern European Jews facing persecution from the Nazis, including by giving Hungarian Jews baptismal certificates....

    "The scholar also praised John XXIII - nicknamed "Good Pope John" - for helping open up the Roman Catholic Church to dialogue with other faiths during his 1958-1963 papacy....

    "Tenembaum says he current Pope Francis, a fellow Argentine, seems to be following in the path of John XXIII.

    ""Since the time of Pope John XXIII, I think the pope that most resembles Roncalli is Francis, at least from what we've seen so far," Tenembaum said."

    http://www.israelnationalnews......17S8fldVUB

  • GILMORE||

    "Notorious G.K.C.|4.28.14 @ 7:46PM|#

    "John XXIII: The 'Best Pope for The Jewish People'

    ??

    Is that like, "Vegetarians Favorite Steakhouse" or something?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Uh, "helped save the lives of thousands of Eastern European Jews"?

  • GILMORE||

    You know, sometimes it helps to read another sentence below the thing you laugh at.

  • ||

    I hope the stream works tonight. It didn't back to back last week.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    In before someone makes a comment about canucks and "stream" issues.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Hollywood people promise to make a 15-second movie for the winner of a cool-movie-idea contest Chicago man submits his idea: a movie called "Linclone" about an evil Lincoln clone. The man's entry wins and is duly turned into 15 seconds of awesome.

    Judge Napolitano wishes it were a real movie so he could watch it 50 times.

    http://www.mlive.com/entertain....._evil.html

  • Wasteland Wanderer||

    I laughed when the music started, but it didn't go anywhere after that. Way too much time on exposition, not enough showing the evilness of LinClone. I think maybe they should have gotten the crew from 5 Second Films to do it...they could have done a lot with 15 seconds.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Does anyone have any idea how little I care about what Donald Sterling said to his bimbo?

    1. Never heard of him till 3 days ago.
    2. It's professional sports.
    3. It's basketball.

    Let's be edgy and not talk about it.

  • Pathogen||

    But..but..24 hour news cycle..but..but.. flight 370 story running out of steam..

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I have to agree with everything you just said.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    A couple of hours ago you were ready to blow the guy.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    For $10M. Best we not leave that part out.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

  • Bobarian||

    So we've established you're a whore, now it's just down to negotiating a price?

  • OneOut||

    When the price gets into 7 figures the correct term is "call girl" or "mistress".

    Whores are cheap.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

  • Tejicano||

    /\/\THIS/\/\

    I care about this so little I couldn't be bothered to come up with a way to describe it. Besides not caring about who/what he is he wrote that in a private message to a signle person he knew closely.

    Am I supposed to care that there is somebody out there who might make racist statements in private? Really? Should I pretend I didn't think anybody did this?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    One thing that amused me was Snoop Dog's rant. Called him a "bitch-ass redneck, white bread, chicken shit mother fucker".

    Isn't this guy a Jew who grew up in LA?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Yeah, he is--which makes the limpouts about his remarks all the more amusing, because they're revealing a lot more about the pundit/commenter's personal prejudices than they are about Sterling's own relative bigotry.

  • Calidissident||

    In Snoop's defense, he was almost certainly high when he made those comments

  • Swiss Servator ...nichts||

    Almost?

  • ||

    No kidding.

    I'm more interested in Griffin's embellishments and antics.

  • OneOut||

    Talk about what ?

  • AlmightyJB||

    "1. Never heard of him till 3 days ago."

    So you never heard about him when he was screwing around on his wife and publicly humiliating her by flaunting his young girlfriend in front of the TV cameras and spending their money on gifts for his mistress. And of course not one basketball player who is is now super "offended" by his remarks was not at the least "offended" by his behavior towards his wife? Because that sort of thing is 100% acceptable and not assholy in the least. Of course, we are talking about LA where he would have probably been better off murdering his wife or molesting a 13 year old than what he actually did which was to say something ignorant and assholy in a private conversation with his mistress. I have zero sympathy for this dickweed for his adultery or his racism but how is a general ignorant statement about a minority group worth eternity in hell and a very personal humiliation of your spouse is "A fucking ok"?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul will introduce a bill this week, calling for an end of U.S. aid to Palestine until it recognizes Israel’s right to exist, which could be seen as an attempt to drum up pro-Israel support prior to a possible 2016 bid....

    "The measure, which would make aid to Palestine conditional and dependent upon its recognition of Israel and a ceasefire, follows news last week of a unity deal between Fatah and Hamas as well as recent criticism Paul has faced himself regarding his stance on foreign policy."

    http://www.politico.com/story/.....06091.html

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Got a better idea.

    Let's:

    end of U.S. aid to Palestine until it recognizes Israel’s right to exist, which could be seen as an attempt to drum up pro-Israel support prior to a possible 2016 bid

  • BardMetal||

    That is a better idea. Foreign aid made some strategic sense back during the Marshall plan, but I really don't see what we have to gain by sending aid now.

  • Derpetologist||

    Recently on Derpbook:


    Aren't Libertarians always advocating for states rights? Despite the fact that our last TWO Governors [referring to Illinois] are in federal prison?

    If crooked governors invalidates states' rights, do crooked presidents invalidate federal authority?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Nothing invalidates the power of the TOP.MEN. to a prog.

  • Derpetologist||

    I'm still waiting for this guy to explain why it was OK for FDR to force Americans to sell the govt gold at $20.67 an ounce and then turn around and sell it for $35 an ounce.

  • BardMetal||

    Because only evil rich people with their evil top hats, and Scrooge Mcduckian money vaults own gold, and they only got that by exploiting poor people derpity derp de derp de derp.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    That is stupid but I have heard supposed 10ther "libertarians" advocate a federal tort law.

    Tort reform is doing just fine with 29 states in so far.

  • Derpetologist||

    Show this to your proggy friends and enjoy their frustrated silence:

    Crime did not go up during the Great Depression-

    http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....d=97234406

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    It's from NPR?

  • Derpetologist||

    That's what makes it so awesome.

  • ||

    Not surprising.

    And by extension it questions their belief and assertion that you need to pay people off (through welfare) to keep them off the streets where they would commit crimes.

  • Derpetologist||

    As the article says, people generally don't turn into muggers just because they lost their jobs.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Different time and culture, though, too. People largely didn't care what kind of work they were doing as long as it was a steady paycheck. That's why FDR was able to pay people the equivalent of $6000 a year, inflation-adjusted, to do backbreaking work on public works projects and live in tents and tarpaper shacks.

    I can't imagine very many of today's delicate flowers willing to endure those kinds of work conditions just to say they had a job and a roof over their heads.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    "I wanna work for a non-profit. Whaaaaaahhhhh!!!"

    *sucks thumb*

  • BigT||

    Self reliance. It once was an American virtue. Maybe THE American virtue. Exceptional ism and all.

  • Derpetologist||

    I made $200 a month in local currency when I was in the Peace Corps. Of course, lower cost of living and all that.

  • RishJoMo||

    Dude this makes a lot of sense dude. Wow.

    www.GoGoAnon.tk

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Were you listening to the dude's story?

  • Bobarian||

    Skynet is a fan of Lebowski.

  • Sevo||

    "The rug, it ..."

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    DAT ASS.

    (jpg image)

    http://bit.ly/1bHIHHd

  • Pathogen||

    Wasserman-Shultz..

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Not enough poodle-hair.

  • Pathogen||

    No, it's just clean for once..

  • BigT||

    Another Biden selfie.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Sometimes I really enjoy reheated coffee.

    Is that wrong?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I like 7-11 coffee. I assume it has been out for hours before I buy it.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Dunkin' Donuts.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    None in CA. Except for the one in Camp Pendleton, which I can't get access to.

  • Sevo||

    Plàya Manhattan.|4.28.14 @ 8:50PM|#
    "None in CA. Except for the one in Camp Pendleton, which I can't get access to."

    Better than re-heated WF chicken

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I got a whole Costco bird in the fridge. 3 lbs, $5.

  • Sevo||

    Oh, I thought you'd gone to WF.

  • Sudden||

    They're coming to California. I know a few locations that are going to be flagship stores out here. It helps being a well connected real estate mogul (albeit not the kind that owns sports teams, dates remarkably unattractive gold-diggers, nor gets caught on phone surveillance discussing my opposition to minority attendence of basketball games).

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Do they franchise? I can liquidate funds quickly.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Dunkin' Donuts coffee is good in general. So go for it.

  • From the Tundra||

    Not at all. I will sometimes drink cold coffee - happily.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    I do that too. Pour the leftovers into a pitcher I keep in the fridge. No greater sin than wasting caffeine (except maybe alcohol).

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I take caffeine tablets instead. Way more precise.

  • From the Tundra||

    Exactly. Coffee is awesome at any temp.

  • Ska||

    Kind of has a burnt popcorn taste to it though...

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Two-time guest Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colorado.) will be back, talking about what in the federal government he'd be willing to cut.

    So do guests that manage to complete The Independents hat trick get any special gift or memento? Come on how, that's three times they willing subject themselves to a "conversation" with Kennedy.

  • ||

    Ok. That mental case in North Korea just invaded and took over America. He forces you to choose between Wasserman, Brewer, Pelosi, Hilary and Michelle to have sex with.

    He keeps Bachmann and Palin for himself naturally.

    Pick.

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Easy. Michelle Obama. She has broad shoulders and awesome biceps.

  • BigT||

    My right hand has never looked so good.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    DWS isn't attractive by any standard I use, but she's under the age of 50 and appears to be in decent shape. So I'd choose her.

    Those other women are just too horrifying to contemplate.

  • Pathogen||

    That's why I keep a cyanide capsule in the heel of my boot...

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    There are so many variables.
    Do I have to kiss?
    Make eye contact?
    Snuggle afterwards?
    Will any of them try to put a finger in my ass?
    Will anyone ever know about it, or is it confidential?

    These are important things to consider.

  • Mt low rider||

    They are not GFE, so no.

  • Sudden||

    I chose all of the above.

    There is no greater joy in this world than that tearful shower after a hate-fuck.

  • OneOut||

    Mia Love

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    I can't believe I ate the whole thing!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVRhRzE_AkQ

  • Pathogen||

    I'm not going to sugarcoat it... alligators are scum, but gator stuffed python sounds absolutely delectable

  • Wasteland Wanderer||

    It's like a pre-made turducken. Pygator? Allython?

  • Derpetologist||

    So now the prog is saying that small govt is bad because it is cheaper to bribe lower politicians. I reply that there is more incentive to bribe powerful politicians. Which is what actually happens.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • ||

    Assemble what?

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    IKEA FURNITURE

  • Ska||

    DAT ASS

  • From the Tundra||

    Bye bye, Columbus.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Finally, Geno shows up

  • From the Tundra||

    It's not even close. Good season for Columbus, though. Richards has done a nice job.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    THERE'S STILL TWENTY MINUTES LEFT.

  • From the Tundra||

    I gotta switch over to the Wild. I'm calling this for Pit.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    That offside goal would be a tough one to swallow for the Wild.

  • From the Tundra||

    It sucked, but you gotta close the lanes and stop the shots. Refs have sucked pretty hard all year, for everyone.

  • ||

    Yup. Hard working team but just not enough depth and fire power to overcome Pittsburgh. San Jose without Vlasic tonight. Not good.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    So Duchene is in for the Avs!

  • From the Tundra||

    Yeah, they kind of have to. If it goes to 7, it will be good for him to have a game in.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    JESUS FUCKING CHRIST NEIL!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    HM, is a Brooks Brothers suit acceptable?
    I will also accept an answer from Rufus.

  • ||

    I bought a searsucker jacket from BB. I will defer to HM, as I'm not that familiar with it but from what I saw some of their suits were of good quality.

  • Bobarian||

    Old joke:

    Asked my wife to pick me up a seersucker suit from Cook Bros Clothiers.

    Came back with a pink frilly outfit.

    Absent-minded bitch went to Sears.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I'm assuming ready-to-wear or made-to-measure? Then, yes, I own a few myself. Though stay away from their 346 line, which is on the low-quality end. If you're going bespoke, then I'd say go Brooks only if you're specifically looking for classic American sack suit/Ivy League-style. If not, there are so many better choices in the bespoke world.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Thanks.

    What are some boss shoes? I'm thinking something like Kenneth Cole square toes, only classier...

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Allen Edmonds or go barefoot.

  • ||

    Split-toe Oxfords.

    Edmunds is sharp. Looking into getting a pair but may want to buy a tailored pair. Always liked Cole.

    Of course, there's always Italian.

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/17.....lian-shoes

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Craig Ferguson to step down from The Late Late Show in December

  • ||

    Reading the comments on ENB's trolley problem posts earlier today was maddening, as is typically the case when you present it to a room of reasonably smart people who have not spent sufficient time on it.

    Unless this particular study used radically different formulations of the footbridge and switch dilemmas (they did not, AFAICT, attach what they used -- I have emailed the corresponding author to find out, though) than most other studies, there is no knowledge problem.

    The presentation of the dilemma tells you the result of each possible action. If you take the utilitarian route, one person will die and the others won't; if you do not, the five people will die and the person you could have sacrificed will not.

    There is no uncertainty; you are told what will happen. People have been pondering and using the trolley problem for decades; the concerns that you and I come up with are highly unlikely to be original.

    Now, especially since their subjects were college students, there is of course the issue of assholes like you and I overthinking it and ignoring the constraints of the problem. This is unlikely to have been an issue, because:

  • ||

    * This was comparing response rates of subjects answering in their native languages to those answering in foreign languages (note: subjects were either assigned to their native languages or to foreign languages; they did not do it both ways, one-after-the-other). It is possible that people are more or less assholish in the way they approach the question depending on if they were using their native or foreign tongue...

    * ...but that doesn't seem wholly likely, because the native-language response rates are consistent with those of other studies.

    The thing I find most bothersome about this study is it doesn't account for the possibility that there is something systematically different about bilingual people -- everyone, even those asked the question in their native language, was bilingual (which is of course a necessary control condition). Ideally, there would be a third group: monolinguals in Korean, Spanish, Hebrew, and English answering in their native languages. They problem did not do so for time/budget constraints.

    I have only skimmed the study and the H&R comments, but most legitimate concerns of mine and of the commentariat seem to be addressed. I was pleasantly surprised, actually.

    And this is the only trolley problem worth a damn, anyway.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I didn't see this post, but is it the "people think more rationally in a second language" study?

  • ||

    There is more than one such study; the present one

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Exciting news for the Loglan/Lojban community.

  • ||

    What about the Queer Conlangers community?

    PS, while we're on the subject I sent to a linguistics question (to your ISP address, not Gmail); take your time -- just wanted to make sure it made it through.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I don't think I got it. Could you please resend?

  • ||

    Sent

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Hmm..PGP doesn't like the threading. Could you please send it alone in a separate email please? Because I can't read it at all right now. Sorry.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Got it, thanks.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    the possibility that there is something systematically different about bilingual people


    The 40 plus years work of Ellen Bialystok has shown this to be likely.

  • ||

    Interesting, thanks. I'll have to see what articles of hers I have access to.

  • OneOut||

    Would the "problem" become more complex if tri-linguals gave different answers dependent upon WHICH language they answered in ?

  • GILMORE||

    "I have only skimmed the study and the H&R comments, but most legitimate concerns of mine and of the commentariat seem to be addressed. I was pleasantly surprised, actually."

    So, you murdered all of them out of frustration too?

    Because the harvested organs would be of more use.

  • ||

    So, you murdered all of them out of frustration too?

    No, that would have involved murdering a certain member of the commentariat who happens to know everything. And that would be a devastating blow to humanity -- I mean, he does know everything.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Link?

  • ||

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/04.....nguage-use

    OT: I've been meaning to ask you: what do you think about building nuclear reactors in areas with high seismic activity? There is a lot of hoopla in Taiwan now about trying to halt the construction of their fourth nuclear power plant, and the main problem cited is that the earthquakes make it too dangerous.

    I tend to get pretty irritated with anti-nuclear activists, but that does sound kind of reasonable to me, as a layperson (OTOH, there are quite a few already there and elsewhere that have weathered quite a few earthquakes... [the retort being "well it's just a matter of time"]).

    Another less common complaint that has some appeal to me is that it has been in development since 1980 or something, with multiple years-long halts along the way, and that raises the chance of mistakes due to current engineers not being aware of the design assumptions/precautions of previous ones. What about that?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Well they can and should be designed to handle the typical possible earthquakes for that region. Japan's reactors held up fine to the earthquakes. It was the tsunami that got Fukushima Daiichi (which is a tragedy and should have never happened). That earthquake was beyond what the reactors were designed for, too, and some of those reactors were 40+ years old.

    Nuclear reactors are typically very conservatively designed and so leave a huge margin for beyond design basis events.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Prediction: HoOoOOops.

  • Bam!||

    Bejeweled pumpkin dress

  • kibby||

    It's a fantastic color!

  • Bobarian||

    For halloween

  • kibby||

    FOR ANY TIME.

  • Bam!||

    Gold digger? I thought libertarians were about BitCoin mining now.

  • ||

    Yawn.

    My cynic-senses tell me she set him up for some reason.

  • gaijin||

    Encourage the players not to play...and give up their millions. haha

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Kmele needs to ask if he is doing it right.

  • ||

    Grrrrowl!

    /pants.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Have I mentioned I don't care?

  • kibby||

    Seriously. This story is ridiculous.

  • gaijin||

    we're right where we've always been...most of it just doesn't get out in public so much.

  • ||

    Kmele.

    Marry me.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Yes, Kennedy, senile racist grandpas are outliers.

  • gaijin||

    senile, racist, jewish, democratic, white, 1% er, grandpas

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Have I mentioned I love Kmele?

  • Virginian||

    http://www.nationalreview.com/.....-c-w-cooke

    Wise words from Metrocon Central. It's vitally important that the NRA not be hijacked.

  • Virginian||

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....le/2547748

    Media Matters For America is fighting tooth and nail against unionization.

  • Pathogen||

    Awkwaaard..

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Kennedy, don't be racist against old white guys with money and power! He's just one white, etc. guy.

  • Bobarian||

    So we shouldn't have aspired to be him before he was a racist?

  • Big Chief||

    Seriously, I want to see the people in the US who ever aspired to be Sterling.

  • ||

    Beautiful?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Well, better looking than the females you listed in the above hypothetical.

  • ||

    Touche.

  • Sudden||

    Marginally

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Who look at an NBA franchise (or any sports franchise) and thinks of its owner as a role model that jumps out?

    Only a handful have owners that want to be in the limelight like Mark Cuban and Jerry Jones.

  • Ted S.||

    Green Bay Packer ownership? ;-)

  • BigT||

    He should have to sit between Spike Lee and Al Sharpton at every game.

  • Bobarian||

    We're talking about the Clippers. Nobody goes to a Clippers game.

  • BigT||

    Spike and Sharpton deserve the punishment as well.

  • ||

    Lee says stupid things too. As if those guys aren't 'racial' in their own way.

  • BigT||

    That's the idea.

  • Bam!||

    I can't express how little I care about this story and how disappointed I am for The Independents wasting time on it.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Yeah, one quality this should try to have is being different from the other talking head shows.

    The ratings will never be spectacular so you might as well do your own thing.

  • Big Chief||

    Well I now know a little more about this guy and the incident than I knew before.

    And I still don't care.

  • ||

    The first segment can't end fast enough.

    This topic is retarded.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Due process? For what? Was there a crime committed?

  • Dances-with-Trolls||

    Thoughtcrime, which we all know is the worse kind of crime.

  • ||

    Thank God.

  • gaijin||

    Morrisey. egads.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Anyone else get that Common Core commercial? Jeesh.

  • kibby||

    Why were all the teachers in that chubby women?

  • gaijin||

    they have, um, self control issues...

  • Virginian||

    Because most teachers are chubby women?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Why were all the teachers in that chubby women

    Have you been to a public school in the past, say, 30 years?

  • kibby||

    Not outside of college, which is a different world. Is that how all teachers look now?

  • SweatingGin||

    It ain't a Van Halen video in those schools.

    I don't feel tardy

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I think that is supposed to make them endearing. They just came across as bitch liars.

  • kibby||

    It mostly just made me never want to send my kids to public school.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Polis is in the Democratic Liberty Caucus? Does he share a phone booth with the US Marine Bronies?

  • Big Chief||

    Has anyone seen the texting and driving commercial where the teen girls get t-boned by the truck after running a stop sign?

    I love that commercial. I'd like to know how they made that.

  • SweatingGin||

    They really killed a couple of teenage girls.

    It was even features on the Independents.

  • Virginian||

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Yep. Look at how wide that median is. She really, really fucked up.

  • Big Chief||

    Well great. I'd only seen the shortened version of that on the streams I watch. They don't show the guy in the back seat, and they leave out the sanctimonious cop speech at the end.

    Without that awful speech at the end I think it would be as effective at reducing texting and driving as any law. But with it, I don't know...

    Good job, Virginian, you've ruined Christmas for me now.

  • Virginian||

    http://directorblue.blogspot.c.....44000.html

    The last election was very close. Scumbag Terry beat Kooky Ken by about 50,000 votes (cue rage from conservatives about the 146,000 votes "wasted" on Sarvis). In such a narrowly divided country, it's more important then ever that the voter rolls be purged regularly of the dead and cross checked for duplication.

  • Virginian||

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04.....tw-nytimes

    No shit sherlock. Anyone who's actually out here on the ragged edge knows that for a fact.

  • Virginian||

    To make the numbers work, he pays his 50 or so employees — who are not union members — what he calls “the tip wage,” which is $2.36 an hour. He said that when he was in Congress, he worked hard to increase the “tip wage,” but it was a casualty from the successful effort to increase the minimum wage.

    Bonior tries to motivate employees with baseball tickets and discount meals.

    His employees get paid vacations of at least two weeks a year. Most employees who were on the restaurants’ health plans have signed up for coverage via the Affordable Care Act. Bonior’s restaurants do not have retirement plans, although he says he plans to institute them in the future.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

  • SweatingGin||

    (worked in restaurants before, but as a cook, not for tips)

    It just occurred to me what a crock paid vacation is for someone on a tip wage.

  • Big Chief||

    This could be one way to fix congress. Tell them that their pensions are gone (ACA style, they weren't good enough) and now they will accrue money to create a business to pay for their retirement. Lot's of possibilities there.

  • ||

    Does Obama know this guy is going off the reservation?

  • Bam!||

    Racist. He isn't Elizabeth Warren.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Oh, he's trembling in his boots.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Moccasins.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    DHS? 100% across the board?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Too generous. Make that 115.7%.

  • kibby||

    Keep that up & you'll be in the first group rounded up & thrown in the camps, kid.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Are you going to call him kid while you guys are doing it?

  • ||

    Don't be such a square, Playa. If that's their thing, who are we to judge?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    She tends to use two terms of endearment for me: kid and puddin'. Neither one really works in a bedroom context.

    We will resolve this matter privately, thank you.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    "puddin'" works absolutely well in a bedroom context. And shame on you for not realizing an invitation to some erotic Joker/Harley Quinn cosplay.

  • gaijin||

    cuts to farmers? defense? this guy is must be a commie.

  • Bobarian||

    Commerce, Education, Labor...

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Polis is in the Democratic Liberty Caucus? Does he share a phone booth with the US Marine Bronies?

  • gaijin||

    New York is ranked Number 2! woo hoo.

  • SweatingGin||

    That's why Toyota just moved their sales office there!

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    The Hotel New York...

  • SweatingGin||

    That's a nice business you got there... be a shame if you wanted to leave.

  • ||

    It's good to hear from reasonable Democrats who don't yap on about derpanomics.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Where's the other one?

  • Pathogen||

    In the shitter..

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Carl, I finally got my reply in to your question up thread. Sorry for the delay.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Isn't this the guy who put car alarms in every car?

  • Bobarian||

    Contempt of Congress?

    Guilty!

  • SweatingGin||

    I'll drink to that.

  • GILMORE||

    The Independents Attire Review, 27 April 2014

    Happy Birthday!= Saddam Hussein-Edition

    - Kennedy: Do we need to *explain* why we love Kennedy in Reds, or is it patently apparent? We'd hope so. We dig the new outfit - "new" being the theme this evening, apparently. We also find that Hot-Red Kennedy tones the screech down a decibel or 5 when she's got the dominating shade going, which we call a Win-Win.

    - Matt: A Haircut and the New Tie with a Not-Pink Shirt. What we see here tonight is the first time Matt seems to have *intentionally* worn what amounts to 'a simple, conservatie, appropriate' combination without even a single out-of-left-field element screwing everything up. In short = we're suspicious. Tomorrow will likely bring some kind of horror beyond imagination. In the meantime we will try and enjoy the Non-Grating version of Mattness.

    - Kmele: Whoa? Grey paisley tie, with the matching kercheif = heretofore unseen. Its a challenging pattern and one which actually works very well with the grey-check shirt. More busy than what we normally see Kmele going with, but once again nailing the ensemble together with aplomb. Not his best, but fresh nevertheless. It may seem I'm making much out of nothing, but try wearing a paisley tie yourself and not looking like 'you're not Old-Man enough' for it yet.

    Jumanji

    Thank You

  • Virginian||

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    It was good to be an airline pilot in the 60s and 70s. The stories are true.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I think (aside from the pay, which I know nothing about) it would have been awesome to fly Chalk's in the 80's. Miami-Bimini route, preferably.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Nice to see there was a time when Emirates didn't have the silliest looking uniform.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    I'm fairly certain 5A applies any time I say it does.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Just consulted lawyer wife. You are absolutely correct.

  • gaijin||

    Do military courts recognize the 5th amendment?

  • Pathogen||

    Just try and relax on this board, and hold this rag over your face. We'll discuss your 5a rights in just a moment...

  • Virginian||

  • gaijin||

    take her pension away?

  • ||

    Does Issa know he's fighting a fake scandal?

  • GILMORE||

    Does Kennedy need to do these Q&A's all by herself?

    because "fuck the IRS" needs a *chorus* of voices.

  • gaijin||

    has Matt Welch said one thing yet?

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    I'm your huckleberry.

  • gaijin||

    george clooney...wtf?

  • Big Chief||

    A Clooney report? Did I accidently stream TMZ instead?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    This whole show is just one giant Topical Storm.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Ah, yes, investment companies trying to look as nonthreatening as possible...

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    And surprised to learn Clooney's intended defended Julian Assange and has litigated on behalf of drone strike victims. Sounds like an impressive woman.

  • kibby||

    Maybe she can cancel out some of his smug.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    At least turn him against Killary if that's who he is inclined to support.

  • gaijin||

    So Clooney's the trophy husband?

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    COLUMBUS

  • ||

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    he's still a better doctor than dr. oz

  • ||

    I believe that goes without saying.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    That's an oldie but goodie!

  • ||

    I feel a little cheated that it was a state senator being an ignorant dick. I'm sure they could've found entertaining quotes from Museveni who actually has power.

  • ||

    Umm, don't buy simple networked devices when non-networked devices can do. Have we learned NOTHING from Battle Star Galactica?

  • kibby||

    All this has happened before. All this will happen again.

  • ||

    Ha, ha Matt.

  • SweatingGin||

    I don't feel tardy

  • SweatingGin||

    next bump music better be hot for teacher

  • ||

    Some guys have all the luck.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Some guys do nothing but complain

  • SweatingGin||

    "Wait a second man. Whaddaya think the teacher's gonna look like this year?"

  • gaijin||

    I brought my pencil!

  • SweatingGin||

    gimme somethin to write on!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Kwanzaa is fake!

  • GILMORE||

    Yeah, but Easter is a few thousand years old, yet is something to do with chocolate eggs now?

    Its all fake, man.

  • ||

    Eggs and bunnies are fertility symbols. Easter is one of the worst syncretized holidays in the Christian calendar.

  • ||

    But Festivus is not!

  • Bobarian||

    For the rest of us!

  • kibby||

    Saturnalia is better.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Back when I was active in Nova Roma, Saturnalia celebrations were the bomb.

    Waking up in a field in Maine...good times.

  • kibby||

    When are you publishing your autobiography? I want to read it.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    When my daughter is old enough to know but not yet bitter enough not to forgive.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    And you should certainly think about joining Nova Roma.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    You know who else wanted to rebuild Roman civilization in the modern age?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Thomas Jefferson?

  • kibby||

    I may be nerdy enough to actually do that.

    Or is it AWESOME ENOUGH?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    I'm not sure how libertarian the mos maiorum is.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    By the way, I bought my toga and tunica from this guy.

  • SweatingGin||

    Nova Roma

    How is that not a front for a fascist party?

    I assume it's not a front for a fascist party.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Well, they actually have fasces held by lictors and curule seats for their curule aediles who have those lictors.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    He already *has* a black eye - or is that racist?

  • gaijin||

    Baker back because he has been tapping Kmele's communications?

  • ||

    You can't spot a team a 4-0 lead and expect to come back. Good try Columbus though.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Did Kennedy say "unitarian state"

  • ||

    Doesn't the Knesset have Arabs in it?

    Apartheid? That's just silly.

  • ||

    Kerry is using Hamas language by saying Israel is 'apartheid.'

  • GILMORE||

    Who the fuck is john Kerry to decide what the 'only solution' to Other People's Problems are?

  • Bobarian||

    The Hand of the King?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "I'm the President's right hand"

    "You must be a very busy man!"

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    (adapted from a Demi Moore movie)

  • gaijin||

    exactly

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Oy, with friends like Obama and Kerry, Israel doesn't need enemies.

  • GILMORE||

    Brooke just lost the "hot" label by emphasizing the loogey-hawking-sound part of "Hamas"

    Reminds me of my UN ex girlfriend.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Good thing Arab citizens of Israel have full enfranchisement, Kmele!

  • kibby||

    Let's all talk over each other!!!

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Kennedy's relapsing into interrupting.

  • Bam!||

    Mike Baker looks like a guy Hollywood would cast as a CIA agent.

  • gaijin||

    Mike Baker looks like a guy Hollywood would cast as a CIA agent.

    in other words, a dbag?

  • Bobarian||

    Or a guy pretending to be CIA

    http://www.dailymotion.com/vid.....shortfilms

  • GILMORE||

    The most controversial position one can take relative to "Israel/Palestine" is to say, "Its none of our fucking business"

    Discuss.

  • GILMORE||

    Which includes, FWIW, ceasing to throw money and guns at the Israelis.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    That's my opinion. However, one can hold that opinion while recognizing that Holy shit, Fatah and Hamas are filled with bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs! I hope they don't win.

  • Bam!||

    I'll only discuss it if I can talk over you.

  • ||

    Israel is the only functional, democratic country in a sea of defunct Arab kleptocratic countries.

  • GILMORE||

    And?

  • ||

    Nothing. It just is. And Kerry should be more nuanced.

  • OneOut||

    He claimed to be very nuanced when he was running for Prez against GWB.

    He tried to paint Bush as the anti-nuance redneck Cowboy.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    I almost care as little about the Israelis and Palestinians as I do about Donald Sterling.

  • GILMORE||

    Who?

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Zactly!

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    PS - There are Palestinians who are citizens of Israel with citizenship rights. But most Pals aren't in that position.

    Still, I blame the Pal leadership for blowing most of their chances for fair treatment. They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Hey, I was right. Hoops.

  • kibby||

    That was some unexpected Nine Inch Nails.

  • SweatingGin||

    Nine Inch Nail bump music, but still no VH after a teacher in the topical whatever?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    I know, right?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    The C in LLC is "company," not "corporation"

  • SweatingGin||

    elaborate on difference? Company is a group in general, Corporation is a particular legal organization, probably implying multiple owners?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

  • SweatingGin||

    Hmm... I figured you had a reason behind that (collection of people vs. limited liability or something like that), but I read your statement wrong. You're correct on company vs. corp.

  • GILMORE||

    Actually = the irony is that Obama/Kerry will actually end up bringing about the complete opposite of their desired outcomes because everything they do simply pushes Israel to say "Fuck the Americans".

    Which is sort of par for the course for his admin.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The whole interview will be about who's on whose side?

  • gaijin||

    oh here we go...if you knew what i knew...you'd agree with me.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    It's OK because our motives are pure!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The if you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about defense.

  • gaijin||

    we're all doing something wrong...

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    They don't care. Until they do.

    What's your recourse?

  • gaijin||

    turning state's evidence?

  • Bobarian||

    Moving to Russia as a Whistle Blower?

  • GILMORE||

    Is this "being cute" thing a tactic to avoid actually making a clear statement?

    He's essentially saying, "Only the guilty have reason to fear"

  • BigT||

    Fill out your taxes this year?

    Guilty! Almost every tax return has errors that could be used to go after you.

    And that's just the way they want it.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    If you don't share data with the DEA, there will be another 9/11 and we'll all get blamed!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I see where you're going with it? You haven't thought of it before this?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    *You're* the ones obsessed with your own private lives!

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    FUCK SHARING THEIR DATA!!!!

    THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE MY FUCKING DATA!

    BITCH!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Who's the musical guest on Lou Dobbs tonight?

  • SweatingGin||

    Patrick Boone?

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Lou Reed?

  • ||

    What about Lou Reed? Did he die?

  • Bobarian||

    I heard he was sick.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    He tried to shine a light on love.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    A lot of people should be subjected to criminal justice efforts on this and it's not Snowden.

  • cavalier973||

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Since I was a teenager, I've made it known that I want a Dixieland funeral.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Me: Ashes on the Continental Divide. Some goes east, some goes west.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Attacking the funeral attendees as a zombie.

  • kibby||

    Only so long as someone captures it on video.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    I'd rather have a Viking funeral. Or at least those funerals from The Iliad.

  • kibby||

    Funeral games, yayyyy!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    AH! Lou Dobbs.

  • Bobarian||

    So Kennedy wants to be fed to seagulls?

  • GILMORE||

    So, take Kmele out to Miller's Crossing.

  • GILMORE||

    Dobbs.

  • ||

    Resomate me.

  • Bobarian||

    Sounds like being mulched.

  • ||

    It's more like being dissolved by a serial killer in a bathtub full of lye.

  • kibby||

    That's a...uh, comforting idea?

  • ||

    I just like how cost effective it is.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Looks like a $300 million website to me.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • ||

    Ummmm...

    ...she's attractive, so she's got that going for her?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Hard to tell with such high contrast. She could be covered in acne.

  • Jesus H. Christ||

    She has a talented mouth.

    I mean, she can really work that tongue.

    That doesn't sound right, either.

    It's just a cute girl being goofy. I shouldn't be such a dirty old man.

  • Tejicano||

    It wasn't Japanese or even anything close

  • GILMORE||

    I note that nobody sitting at this table has the first fucking clue or credentials to speak authoritatively about anything in regards to Israel.

    Even people who live there have some serious disagreements about "reality". Which is the entire fucking point.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    She needs to distinguish between Palestinians who are citizens of Israel - and can vote in Israeli elections, etc. - and the West Bankers and Gaza Strippers, who generally don't.

  • Virginian||

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    That's why the Palestinians can't have nice things.

  • GILMORE||

    Jesse = Baratunde blinking on the gaydar?

  • ||

    It didn't jump out at me, but I was grilling carne asada and watching at the same time.

    Now that I'm paying attention I'd say he falls into the "probably not but I wouldn't be shocked if he was" category.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    You too? I went to El Gaucho today.

  • ||

    Nothing fancy. It was the Trader Joe's stuff. They went a little overbearing with the marinade.

    I'm too lazy to make another protein so I'm gonna do some Korean/Mexican fusion and turn the leftovers into gimbap tomorrow.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Trader Joes has decent Korean short ribs in the frozen section.

    My mom bought their marinated tri tip and had me cook it. Dog shit. There's no way I'm ever having my name associated with that shit again.

  • ||

    Their bulgogi in the fridge section wasn't terrible when I had it (probably 2009), but it isn't bulgogi, it's much closer to kalbi.

    The carne asada wasn't bad, but it completely drowned out the flavors of the guacamole and diced veggies I was eating it with.

    I had the tri-tip but it burst into flame and came out a charred mess so I may have blamed my preparation on why it wasn't very good. I had six people say "why didn't you just pour a beer on it?" when I mentioned the high char content of my meal that night.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    The tri tip is unworkable. It isn't even tri tip, it's cut from the round.

  • ||

    Those bastards! A friend of mine from Ohio who lived in the Santa Maria area for a while complains about being unable to find the tri tip cut anywhere but here. He's specifically gone into butchers and asked them to cut it for him. Next time he's staying with me I should press gang him into preparing something Santa Maria style.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Costco carries it nationwide.

    Sirloin roast would be a close approximation.

    This is the gold standard for tri tip seasoning, but some people swear by Red Baron BBQ spice. I don't.

  • Virginian||

    Pants shitting hysteria!

    "It's a race to the bottom," said Brian Malte, senior national policy director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "It's taking the lowest standards."



    Read more: NRA seeks universal gun law at annual meeting - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/nati.....z30ElcnTEp
  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Utah should expect a mail application from me shortly.

  • Virginian||

    http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Fir.....ealed.shtm

    You can do an online course for a VA CCW. Which of course makes libs fucking mad.

  • Tejicano||

    I didn't bother and got it anyway - they (VA) take a DD214 (Honorable discharge) in lieu of the training course.

  • Bobarian||

    We don't have to get people blow themselves up. We have drones and smart bombs.

  • Bobarian||

    to blow themselves up.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Ha! Welch just suggested Foster needs to be taught to be black.

  • ||

    This chick is hot.

  • Bam!||

    They're now buying the Clippers, folks.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    None of them showed their ass even once!

  • GILMORE||

    Wow, they haven't cut Kennedy off yet.

    I would have.

    OH! There they go. Ha.

  • Bam!||

    She was getting loopy towards the end.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Man-hymen reference ends the after show.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Baratunde Thurston is one of the smuggest douchebags I have ever had the misfortune to stream on my Internet browser.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Baratunde Thurston Howell IV

  • GILMORE||

    Oh god, the next clip is daryl Hannah telling me why Keystone is evil.

    Good night.

  • Pathogen||

    OT:
    A modest proposal: reduce pets for a sustainable future

    With the world's resources under increasing pressure, Erik Assadourian argues that pet ownership needs a drastic rethink. Could sharing and repurposing pets be the way forward?
    .......
    53% of dogs and 58% of cats are overweight or obese in the US, according to the Association for Pet Obesity Prevention – can pets be part of a sustainable future?

    The short, if unpopular, answer is probably not. Two German Shepherds use more resources just for their annual food needs than the average Bangladeshi uses each year in total. And while pet owners may disagree that Bangladeshis have more right to exist than their precious Schnookums, the truth is that pets serve little more societal purpose than keeping us company in an increasingly individualistic and socially isolated consumer society.
  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "sharing and repurposing pets"

    Does this have the tasty implications I think it does?

  • Pathogen||

    Let your imagination wander

  • SweatingGin||

    53% of dogs and 58% of cats are overweight or obese in the US

    Redistribute fat pets to skinny pets?

    Link needed.

    It was what, two or three years ago that the progs got going on cats, complete with gnashing of teeth on how many birds/rodents/bugs they killed? That one didn't stick, it seems. I kind of thought it was going to.

  • ||

    My roommates cat was a massive fatty. We put her on Catkins (high protein, primarily wet food) at the suggestion of a vet friend and now she's got the vim and vigor of her youth back...which is terrible because it involves her flying out of nowhere, claws out, and shredding random bits of my hands and arms as I move into a defensive posture.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Sorry, but if Bangladeshis (and much of the world's population) cannot afford advanced healthcare, should Fido?

    Yes, Fido should. When and How a pet owner chooses to spend his or her money on veterinary care is none of your business, you fucking piece of shit.

  • Pathogen||

    So fast forward to a climate disrupted future, which the new IPCC report suggests is coming faster than we thought. Where do pets fit in? When climate change disrupts grain supplies, shoots food prices through the roof and also eviscerates the global consumer economy, pets may be abandoned in droves, as families suddenly can no longer afford their upkeep. We've seen this happen in times of economic crises, hence the large feral dog population in Detroit today. But perhaps at that point the pet issue will solve itself – as these packs of dogs become a bridge food for the hungry unemployed masses.
  • Heroic Mulatto||

    It's going to be awesome after the SHTF Assadourian will be forced to watch as a hungry mob cracks open his kid's skull for the nutrients they'll get by eating his brain.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Pathogen||

    He'll emit a foul smelling and somewhat incapacitating douche from his smug glands, repelling the attackers...

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Slate isn't too happy that John Oliver

    Less effective was an earlier segment about the botched health care website in Oregon. It may be an infuriating shame that Oregon spent a quarter-billion dollars and still couldn’t get its state exchange to work at all. But the writers at Last Week Tonight couldn’t find much fodder here beyond ukulele jokes pegged to one admittedly silly Cover Oregon commercial. Bringing in Lisa Loeb to lampoon it might have seemed like a coup if Portland’s penchant for twee actually had anything to do with the waste of taxpayer money. Instead, it felt like misplaced overkill.

    Which highlights something about the growing let’s-make-fun-of-the-news comedy niche. It’s important to be funny, but being right—and about worthwhile targets—matters, too.

    I guess mocking smug progressivism and big government failures should be out of bounds because they all mean so well.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "worthwhile targets"

    Translation: Mock the rancher and the sports dude for their racist comments, and the Vermont legislature who talked about gay rights in Africa.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    legislat*or*

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Dear Prudence: Help! M wife walks around the house naked and it is very distracting!

    I am having a rather silly problem with my otherwise wonderful wife. She gets up early every morning before work to go to the gym, and then takes a shower...After her shower, she says she gets overheated easily while we’re both getting ready for work. I can understand that...But her way of dealing with this is to walk around almost naked (in just her bra and underwear) until she absolutely has to get dressed to leave for work. She eats breakfast like this, puts on her makeup this way—she basically just goes about her morning routine with barely any clothes on and sometimes she skips the bra entirely.

    Under other circumstances, I would enjoy this. But when I’m trying to get myself ready for the day, this is kind of distracting. I find myself getting aroused, and since we’re both trying to get out the door for work, it’s a bad time for sex. But then I get to work and I’m frustrated all day long. I’ve tried raising this issue with her (delicately) and she gets offended that I can’t control myself after we’ve been married for eight years, which I find offensive. She’s the one walking around half-naked. How can I try to resolve this with her peacefully?

    That poor, poor man with a presumably hot wife?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    she gets offended that I can’t control myself after we’ve been married for eight years

    Umm, lady, the reason you're still married to him for these past 8 years is precisely the fact that he still can't control himself. The time he gets bored of watching you prance around in your underwear is the time he sticks his dick in someone else.

  • Big Chief||

    Dear Frustrated All Day,
    It doesn't really matter what I write because when you failed in your weak attempt to discuss this with your wife, your plan B was to write to an advice columnist. It would be a waste of your time and mine to attempt to teach you how to act like an adult.
    Hugs and Kisses,
    Prudence

  • Bobarian||

    Throw her the bone and make her go to work sweaty and soiled.

    Or whack off in the shower.

  • ||

    Fake. Clothed Male Nude Female (CMNF) fetishist who wants to broadcast his tastes to the world indirectly.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Dear Prudence,

    When my super-hot wife serves me breakfast in bed every morning, I get crumbs on the sheets. Help!

    Sincerely,
    Definitely Not Made Up

  • lap83||

    I like that one of the comments posted Flight of the Conchord's "Business Time"

    "Making love for two. Making love for twooo minutes. When it's with me you only need two minutes girl, cause it's so intense"

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "Obamacare Skeptic: ACA Misinformation Nearly Killed Me"

    http://www.newrepublic.com/art.....ce=twitter

  • Pathogen||

    I wonder if there's any truth to this...

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I took the kids for a walk after the show, only to find a broken water main and a flood.
    The scene
    Water eroding the crosswalk

  • ||

    Damnation!

  • Sevo||

    Don't you know there's a DROUGHT?! You have to be upset and moralistic about that water!

  • Pathogen||

    Have your orphans kids *wink..wink* bottle it up and sell it to poor people as a refreshingly crisp mineral water for the unwashed masses...

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    The mineral content might be a little too high. The crosswalk is normally white stone, not poop brown.

  • Pathogen||

    Then you should probably add a disclaimer, as well...

  • Bobarian||

    You'll be boiling your drinking water for a week.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    They already isolated the back flow. My house wasn't on the fire department's map.

  • ||

    Playa, did your neighborhood not get the memo about the drought?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I saw several acre feet of water go down the storm drain.

    I feel bad for the people on the corner. They are going to be listening to jackhammers all night.

  • Sevo||

    Ooops.
    I see my advice has been covered.
    (did your kids get to float some boats in it? A rubber ducky?)

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    We floated a lot of stuff (but not the neighbors cat, there were witnesses).

  • Sevo||

    Cats don't float, they swim. And amusingly so.

  • ||

    I've only ever seen cats barely touch water before springing back into the air and mauling any exposed flesh within their reach.

  • Sevo||

    Posted late this morning, so sue me!
    Luddites vie to see who can keep the poor the poorest, Goldman choses the winner:

    "Goldman Environmental Prize winners to be honored in S.F."
    http://www.sfgate.com/science/.....hc-bayarea

    I like this one, since Russian oligarchs ought to have nice vacations!
    "Gazaryan is a zoologist who organized protests to stop construction and illegal logging around the caves in Russia's Krasnodar region, a wilderness area along the Black Sea that is famous both as a uniquely diverse ecosystem and a popular vacation spot for wealthy Russians."

  • RishJoMo||

    Sometimes man you jsut have to roll with it.

    www.GoGoAnon.tk

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