Half the Uninsured Say They'll Stay Uninsured

New poll numbers suggest the challenge the Obama administration faces as Obamacare's open enrollment period draws to a close. Half of the uninsured say they plan to remain uninsured, according to a new poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation. And 60 percent don't know when the sign-up deadline is.

Here's the chart:

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Two thirds of the uninsured, meanwhile, say they haven't tried to get coverage yet. 

Numbers like these may help explain why the administration chose to extend Obamacare's open enrollment period. A sizable segment of the uninsured population is clearly not paying too much attention to the deadline details. With more time, it may be that the administration hopes to be able reach some of those people.

But there's also a risk that the extension, which comes via a special enrollment period for people who claim they had trouble signing up before, may simply add to the existing uncertainty. If lots of uninsured people didn't know about the deadline before, then extending it, while pretending not to extend it, might just confuse them further. 

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  • Sevo||

    'But all these people *want* insurance, they just can't get it!'

  • John||

    Getting everyone insurance is the key to bending the cost curve!!!

    If it wasn't causing so much real harm, the bullshit these idiots spewed selling this thing would be the biggest laugh in decades.

  • Hyperion||

    They would ALL want it, but it hasn't been properly splained to them by their betters.

    It's a messaging problem, clearly.

  • Juice||

    I want insurance. I can't really afford it now. I was easily able to afford it before and had it. Thanks, Obama.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Half of the uninsured say they plan to remain uninsured, according to a new poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation. And 60 percent don't know when the sign-up deadline is.

    NEEDS MOAR LOLCATS AND SHINY GIFS!

  • Hyperion||

    And more nerdy pajama boys.

  • Brandon||

    And creepy dudes taking pictures of themselves writing on their own hands.

  • PapayaSF||

    And 60 percent don't know when the sign-up deadline is

    You can't fault them for that. True, there are deadlines written in the law, but nobody really knows what they are. It's sort of a post-modern textual interpretation thing, or perhaps related to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.

  • Hyperion||

    How can you know when a deadline is when it keeps changing every 5 minutes and you can't even believe a single word the people say who are telling you when the deadline is, anyway?

  • Sevo||

    Does anybody really know what time it is?

  • NealAppeal||

    Does anybody really care?

  • ||

    Does anybody really know what time it is?

  • LynchPin1477||

    Not really.

  • Brandon||

    Tool Time?

  • pan fried wylie||

    Tool Time is definitely "I'd better have quality insurance" Time.

  • Ted S.||

    25 or 6 to 4?

  • Rich||

    If lots of uninsured people didn't know about the deadline before, then extending it, while pretending not to extend it, might just confuse them further.

    They're not confused. They know they'll get free healthcare.

  • Tman||

    Delaying the individual mandate is the clearest indication yet that the dreaded "death spiral" for insurers is all but guaranteed at this point.

    But fear not citizens!! They wrote an automatic bailout plan for the insurance carriers if said inevitable death spiral occurred so they will be fine.

    Everyone wins! Except for the majority of us. We get hit with higher premiums.

  • LynchPin1477||

    And more debt. Don't forget about that delicious debt.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Two thirds of the uninsured, meanwhile, say they haven't tried to get coverage yet.

    Numbers like these may help explain why the administration chose to extend Obamacare's open enrollment period. A sizable segment of the uninsured population is clearly not paying too much attention to the deadline details. With more time, it may be that the administration hopes to be able reach some of those people.

    So how long until the administration---unilaterally, of course---decides that since obviously people are too stupid to want the carrot they should hit them with the stick even harder?

  • LynchPin1477||

    They don't have the balls for that. They'll just force feed them the carrot, instead.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    You can lead a horse to water and you can make him drink. Just up the fine.

  • mr simple||

    I think you mean tax.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The horse doesn't care what you call the bridle.

  • NoVAHockey||

    taxing it is.

  • Hyperion||

    In other news:

    College students can't name one current US Senator

    That is actually a misleading title. The only senator actually named, by one student, the senator was ... drum roll .... RAND PAUL! Take that Team Blue, choke on it!

    Well, while I could've named several senators and knew how many Senators there are from each state, I didn't know the name of the song from that movie. So I guess I'm not any smarter than the college students.

  • gimmeasammich||

    how many Senators there are from each state

    Want to know something depressing? I was dragged to one of those trivia night things at a local bar, and this question came up. I heard literally everyone around me, including some people on my own team, that were clueless.

  • gimmeasammich||

    Wow, I can't even write a complete sentence. Everyone around me didn't know the answer. I was hearing numbers anywhere from 50 to over 500.

  • John Thacker||

    Wait, for total number of Senators, or for Senators from each state?

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    those both seem pretty easy.

  • Lord Humungus||

    But the law is getting more popular!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Tman||

    I read that earlier and was impressed with Ms. Malkin.

    Then I read the comments.

    ...........sigh..........

  • Hyperion||

    Some of the comments are good. As it is, the country is about a 50/50 split on MJ legalization, with the pro just now edging above 50%. So the comments seem pretty representative of that.

    I expect it to not be illegal anywhere in the USA, outside of isolated pockets, like the dry counties you still have until this day, within 10 years from now. And even then, it won't really be illegal, just restricted for sale.

    The new WOD will be rolled into socialized healthcare.

  • Tman||

    I read the comments at Malkins site where the original article first surfaced.

    The comments there are less.....encouraging.

    http://michellemalkin.com/?p=154804

  • Hyperion||

    If it's a gang of Bill O'reilly fan club members doing the posting, then I can believe it.

  • Tman||

    It's the usual "GATEWAY-DRUGGG!!ITS SO HARMFUL THE KIDSWILLALLDIE!!!THIS IS RUINING AMERICA!!!" etc. etc., so yeah, the O'Reilly crowd.

  • Brandon||

    Is the Suthenboy in the comments there the same as ours? Seems about the same.

  • JeremyR||

    I think pot should be legal, but a lot of the medical stuff is largely a farce. People just want to get high.

    Some people use it legitimately, and it should be legal for them, but many just use it for phony reasons

  • Hyperion||

    I've got a brilliant idea. No one has ever thought of it yet, but bear with me here.

    How about, there are no deadlines to sign up for health insurance and instead people sign up for it when they decide they want to?

    I know that's radical, but it just might work.

  • Rich||

    That's ridiculous, Hyperion. How could people possibly budget for healthcare under your system?

  • Hyperion||

    Well, I know that personal responsibility thing is unrealistic, but I'm one of those free radical non-conformers that are still on the loose.

  • JeremyR||

    They need people who don't need health insurance to sign up for it and pay money to cover the sick people signing up.

    The deadline was a way for trying to force them to, but it didn't work.

  • Policywonk||

    Open enrollment periods are set to try and discourage anti-selection, so people don't delaying enrolling until they need medical services. Open enrollment is supposed to encourage a balance of sick and healthy individuals in the risk pool.

  • sarcasmic||

    Time to put health insurance into the social contract. As in criminalize noncompliance.

  • ||

    There was talk of that when Obumblecare was being spawned. They dropped the idea but I am sure it is not completely off the table.

  • Juice||

    criminalize noncompliance

    Isn't that what they did?

  • John Thacker||

    Considering that all states require liability insurance to drive a car (NH has an exception if you can show you have enough money to pay a judgment), yet uninsured driver rates are pretty high, despite the fines and even requirements to show proof of insurance when registering a car in some states... I'm not surprised.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    If the GOP could propose something realistic they could make this a clear win for them.

    But that would be giving Obama a "victory" - they can't do that.

  • gimmeasammich||

    I think Hyperion had a pretty good idea upthread.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|3.26.14 @ 1:32PM|#
    "If the GOP could propose something realistic they could make this a clear win for them."

    Asshole, if you thought it was "realistic", sentient beings would laugh.

  • John Thacker||

    When they have proposed things that are realistic, that's been categorized as a "repeal" vote as well. Even when things have been proposed that have been either passed as law or implemented by executive order.

  • John Thacker||

    Besides, anything "realistic" would run into problems. McCain's plan when he ran against Obama was realistic and superior (and definitely superior for the working class people who get screwed near the subsidy phase out under Obamacare), and Obama attacked it with very dishonest ads.

    Doesn't Obama's victory in 2008 demonstrate that politicians are much better off not proposing anything realistic, just attacking the other guy's realistic plan? Obama certainly did much better politically attacking a realistic plan (also when attacking Hillary for favoring a mandate), much worse when trying to actually come up with one?

  • R C Dean||

    What's not realistic about repeal? Its a simple concept, easily drafted, that would solve a multitude of problems.

  • Raston Bot||

    Virginia has a brutal $500 uninsured motorist fee which fucks over poor people.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Hold on! John and GILMORE don't read or believe polls!

    This means nothing. They will tell us what everyone really thinks.

  • Hyperion||

    What's-a matter you? Hey! Gotta no respect. Hey! What-a you t'ink you do? Hey!
    Why you look-a so sad? Hey!
    It's-a not so bad. Hey! It's-a nice-a place.
    Ah, shaddap-a you face!

  • R C Dean||

    John and GILMORE don't read or believe polls!

    So you've got that much in common.

    8%!

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Peter Caca,

    Hold on! John and GILMORE don't read or believe polls!


    The person who seems to read polls in an uncritical way is you, Caca.

  • califernian||

    With guaranteed issue, there is NO reason to buy insurance. None whatsoever.

    It's stupid. You'd have to be an idiot to buy insurance if you don't have any now.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Sure, if you can time your illness to fit into the 5-month open enrollment.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|3.26.14 @ 1:38PM|#
    "Sure, if you can time your illness to fit into the 5-month open enrollment."

    Don't worry, fuckwit, you fave lying bastard will 'extend' it.

  • John Thacker||

    Or however long open enrollment ends up being once it stops being extended like it was yesterday. If it hits 12 months though, you'd agree that would be a problem?

  • califernian||

    I don't know how Obamacare open enrollment works but 'open enrollment' in every other context is for existing insureds to change their plans.

    New insureds sign right up.

  • Hyperion||

    When I was still a contractor at my current full time employer, one of the things they did, was, because I had no health care insurance, was hand me a list of a lot of local health care clinics that will treat you based on a sliding income based scale.

    Keep in mind, this was 6 years ago, before Obamacare was even a word.

    So, IOW, you can go get treated at any of these places, and they will bill you according to your income. If you have no income, you pay nothing.

    People were already getting cheap or free healthcare before this massive clusterfuck went into effect, without the massive new bureaucracy that goes along with it, that can only increase costs for everyone.

    So here's PB defending Obamacare, because you know, he's not a raging team blue prog, he's a libertarian. And my cat can fly to the moon and chase moon mice around and be home by time for kitty din.

  • ||

    "People were already getting cheap or free healthcare before this massive clusterfuck went into effect..."

    This massive clusterfuck is not and never was about getting people healthcare or insurance.

  • Hyperion||

    Of course not, it's about getting more people feeling dependent upon the benevolence of big ever more intrusive government.

  • creech||

    How could anyone not sign up? I just saw a tv ad - twenties dude playing basketball - who says he signed up for only $26 per month.
    What the hell kind of health insurance can you get for $26 per month and how is this supposed to bend the curve? I'm guessing that what wasn't said is the dude is being subsidized another $300/mo by us taxpayers. If you need to be subsidized that much, then why bother with health insurance at all 'cause they'll end up treating your sorry, judgment proof ass at the hospital for nothing.

  • Hyperion||

    No way, creech, before Obamacare, people, especially women and children, were just dropping dead in the streets from lack of health care insurance. I'm sure our own PB can explain that to you.

    One prog told me that in 2010, 45 million Americans died from lack of health care insurance. You can't make up shit this stupid, really.

  • Brandon||

    Was it Shrike?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    A healthy dude in his 20s would have a $150 premium with a $1000 deductible unsubsidized.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|3.26.14 @ 1:58PM|#
    "A healthy dude in his 20s would have a $150 premium with a $1000 deductible unsubsidized."

    So your fave lying bastard is lying again? Why is that not surprising?

  • ||

    What if he is an ardent defender of the second amendment?

  • Hyperion||

    You're so full of shit that it's not even funny.

    I don't know of anyone who has deductibles that low. Single people I work with have had their deductibles go from $750 a year to 3 or 4 thousand, or more. And that's with a good group insurance policy.

    So basically, you're saying that young DUDES should just drop their employer based coverage and sign up on the exchanges, right?

  • califernian||

    Before Obamacare it was cheaper.

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Peter Caca,

    A healthy dude in his 20s would have a $150 premium with a $1000 deductible unsubsidized.


    Why would a HEALTHY dude pay $150 a month for care he will not need?

    You say things like that as if those things carried no costs or consequences. You live in a fantasy land, Caca. YOU, not us - YOU.

  • Sevo||

    ..."I just saw a tv ad - twenties dude playing basketball - who says he signed up for only $26 per month."...

    There are laws against false advertising for any non-governmental agent.

  • LynchPin1477||

    But, but...Zach Galifianakis!!! How could this have happened?!?!

  • Tim||

    Doesn't matter what your political persuasion is, the fact of the matter is that America's got a population of people who do not prepare for or think about the future, own any assets, and are perfectly fine just showing up at the ER if they have a problem.

  • Alice Bowie||

    Yes.

    You see, if you own assets, and your child develops a bad disease that requires a lot of money, this will happen:

    1. Insurance weasals out of the claim.
    2. You go to emergency room for urgent matters.
    3. You discover that ER doesn't offer Chemo and other treatments.
    4. You sell assets.
    5. Once broke, you go to medicaid.

    So, best to just live like's there's no tomorrow, spend it up or hide. And, in the event of calamity, declare bankrupcy and live off of the mattress money.

    Or, people can just take personal responsibility and realize that their neighbors aren't responsible for one's daughter and make the hard choice of letter her die so that the rest of the family doesn't suffer.

    Go Libertarians !!!

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Alice Bowie,

    You see, if you own assets, and your child develops a bad disease that requires a lot of money, this will happen:


    "And this is why the State should compel everybody else to pay for that child's health care: So *I* don't have to feel guilty about the whole thing!"

    Talk about "socializing costs and privatizing profits."

    Or, people can just take personal responsibility and realize that their neighbors aren't responsible for one's daughter


    Yes, but taking responsibility is soooo passé. Right, Alice?

  • Tony||

    It's just pointless to talk about. What is accomplished by yelling "take personal responsibility" into the air? People respond to incentives, not lectures. Is your idea of activism resigning yourself to sitting around, bitching, and hoping for things that can't ever happen?

  • califernian||

    this is easily Alice's dumbest post. she's normally not this bad

  • Ladyhawk||

    Alice, insurance companies actually do pay out. That's why so many people are pissed off, scared shitless and/or up Sh1t Creek , because their insurance THAT THEY LIKED got cancelled and their optionss now are:
    1. the exchanges don't work
    2. the exchanges sign them up but the insurance companies never hear about it
    3.their insurance is NOT AFFORDABLE.
    So as a result of Obamacare they now:
    1. go to emergency room for urgent matters.
    2. discover that ER doesn't offer Chemo and other treatments.
    3. sell assets.
    4. Once broke, go to medicaid

  • R C Dean||

    The deadline extensions are only incidentally about getting more people to sign up.

    They are mostly about postponing any kind of reporting or accountability. As long as the window hasn't closed, they don't have to report out their final numbers.

    Which are going to look awful.

  • Alice Bowie||

    All of the people that I know personally that don't have insurance will not get insurance and simply will pay the fine.

  • OldMexican||

    Terrible. They all must hate someone's hypothetical sick daughter. The monsters!

  • Wilson Cheung||

    Just keep in mind this November that not a single Republican voted for this utter failure but EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT DID. Are you really going to give them another chance to screw America up even more? If these were employees in your place of business would you seriously rehire them?

    It seems like people simply don’t like Obamacare. It’s too expensive. And, being named “affordable care act” is a joke, because it’s anything but affordable.

    I tried for hours to find a health insurance plan on the gov site for less then $500/month and COULD NOT DO IT. I'm a 28 year old healthy male. No reason I should be paying that much. I never even go to the doctors. They are counting on the healthy to pay for the old and unhealthy. Nope, not me.. not falling for it. I'd rather just take the $100 penalty.

    Why can't it be more like auto insurance? Private market.. easy to get quotes. I can go online and get a $25/month auto quote from an independent site like Insurance Panda, but when it comes to health insurance, I use the government's SCAM website and have to pay out the eyeballs. WOW

    Employer health care should be like auto insurance where your premiums are based on risk. I'm tired of paying the same price as some overweight smoker who is pre-diabetic just because the employer offers medical insurance.

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