No, Obamacare Doesn’t Deserve Credit for Slowing the Growth of Health Spending

Whitehouse.govWhitehouse.govFor the fourth year in a row, Medicare’s actuaries reported that total national health spending—encompassing public and private payers—grew modestly. In 2012, total national health spending just 3.7 percent, with the share of the economy devoted to health spending falling slightly from 17.3 percent down to 17.2 percent. National health spending still grew, in other words, but the economy grew faster.

The White House spin, as in previous years, is that Obamacare deserves credit for restraining the nation's health spending growth. But at the very least, it’s too early to tell. And there’s reason to believe that the lingering effects of the recession and other shifts in the health sector have far more to do with the slowdown than the health law.

“For years, healthcare costs in America skyrocketed, with brutal consequences for our country,” notes administration health policy deputy Jeanne Lambrew at the White House blog. But Obamacare, “for the first time in decades, has helped to stop the trend.”

That’s not quite right. The slowdown actually began several years prior to Obamacare, during the Bush administration. Health spending growth came in at 9.7 percent in 2002, and started declining the year after. Spending growth then took a nosedive between 2007 and 2009, dropping from 6.3 percent to 3.8 percent. Notably, that was before Obamacare was passed, but coinciding with the recession. Health spending growth has hovered at basically the same level since.

So the trend started years before Obamacare, and the biggest effect coincided with the recession—not the passage of the law. The president’s health law arrived on the scene late, after the major changes had already taken place—but the White House wants credit anyway.

The officials who wrote the report say they can’t have it, at least not yet. As Medicare Trustee Charles Blahous pointed out recently, following passage of the law in 2010, the program’s financial analysts projected that it would increase health spending through 2016. Medicare did revise its growth projections downward, but the factors it cited were all unrelated to Obamacare.

Indeed, Medicare’s officials are once again warning against conclusions that declare Obamacare the driver of the slowdown.

“The relatively low rates of growth that we’ve seen over the last four years are consistent with the historical trends that we’ve seen when we look at health spending and gross domestic product,” Aaron C. Catlin, one of the report’s coauthors, said according to The New York Times. “The relatively low rates of growth that we’ve seen over the last four years … are consistent with what we’ve seen in post-recessionary periods in the past,” Catlin also noted.

Obamacare may be having a small effect on health spending growth at the margins, and it's possible it will have a bigger effect in years to come. But the bulk of the slowdown so far is more likely a result of the recession over the last few years and significantly increased adoption of consumer-driven health plans in the years prior to the economic downturn. 

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  • Auric Demonocles||

    Obama also totally cut spending and the deficit too!

  • John||

    But bears no responsibility for the unemployment rate, stagnant recovery or resurgence of Al Quada.

    And don't forget, he took the courageous step of saying it was okay to kill Bin Ladin.

  • Sevo||

    And no responsibility for the wars Bush keeps waging!
    That guy Bush is amazing!

  • anon||

    I knew it was Bush's fault!

    BOOOOOOOSSHHHHHHH!

  • ||

    ObamaCare is Bush's fault.

    He sucked so hard that people voted for Obama out of horror.

  • The Last American Hero||

    Kind of like how Louis sucked so bad the French chose Robespierre, who sucked so bad they bounced around between Louis and Napoleon for a while before deciding they just didn't have it in them to be a world power.

  • wagnert in atlanta||

    You forget DeGaulle, who was as tall as Louis stacked on Napoleon and could at least make France a world-class pain in the butt.

  • anon||

    Only in Government is decreased consumer spending something to be viewed favorably.

  • Dweebston||

    Or conversely decrying increases in spending coinciding with technological booms as unsustainable.

    Americans are spending 1600% more on personal computers today than in 2002! We need price controls!

  • playa manhattan||

    I'll give him credit for the reduced spending in rest of the economy, though

  • some guy||

    Lying liars lie. It's what they do. This is just like the lie that Obamacare has expanded the Medicaid roles by millions. Really, most of those people would have signed up for Medicaid anyway.

  • grannybunny||

    Well, actually, the people who benefitted from the Medicaid expansion were not previously eligible, so they couldn't "have signed up...anyway."

  • ||

    Anything good that happens, no matter how slight, the administration and its policies is responsible for. Anything bad, no matter how slight, is because of obstructionist Republicans, haters in the media, or the screwup of flunkies well below the administration's radar.

    Now you know how to read every press article from the administration. You can thank me later.

  • sarcasmic||

    Don't forget to blame the free market.

  • ||

    Yes, add "market failures" to the list of why bad things happen. Also, add the second half of the final season of Battlestar Galactica.

  • Killaz||

    Turning Dirk Benedict into a girl was just the first of their many, many lies.

  • Bardas Phocas||

    They didn't really have a plan.

  • JWatts||

    Well assuming you just don't write off the entire last season. Though, I think they could have pulled it off, if they managed to have a decent last show.

  • John||

    And this isn't even necessarily a "good". Total spending is not the same as cost.

    As I say below, it is very possible that Obamacare will reduce total healthcare spending because it will make health insurance and as a result health care unaffordable for a large chunk of the middle class.

    If we raised the price of every new car to $50,000, spending on new cars would certainly go down.

  • anon||

    It's not even that, John. Government picks up the bill for (x), "reducing" consumer spending.

    Nevermind the fact the consumer's paying just as much, if not more, once taxation is included.

  • Dave Krueger||

    Nope. According to NPR, while no one knows for sure how Obamacare is affecting the medical industry, Medicare spending is down and Obamacare is almost certainly why. All hail Obama!

  • John||

    When you price people out of health insurance, take away their doctors and make it rational for them to pay the penaltax and go without health insurance, it makes sense overall spending will go down.

    Making something unaffordable tends to do that.

  • NoVAHockey||

    but health care is different!

  • sarcasmic||

    Unskilled labor is different too! Raise the minimum wage to help the poor!

  • SusanM||

    But...access!

  • Raston Bot||

    It was a little more balanced than that.

    But one thing that did not lead to slower growth, according to the authors, was the Affordable Care Act.

    Instead, the law likely produced a small overall increase in spending for the first three years that the law was in effect, the actuaries say.

  • Raston Bot||

    The Harvard study quoted in the NPR piece is amusing.

    At every level of government, health care costs would pose a crushing burden: tax-strapped governments would have to raise revenue or continue to cut back on education, housing, transportation, research and development, homeland security, culture, and the arts.

    ohnoesssssssssssssss not cuts to homeland security, culture, and the arts!!

  • Killaz||

    What would the people do with out entertainment and news media from a government bureaucrat's perspective? You probably hate roads too.

  • Raston Bot||

    I loathe roads. Drone delivery FTW!

  • JWatts||

    Yes, and apparently Obamacare managed to lower costs in 2007, 2008 and 2009 also. Because it was just that good!

  • Brian||

    Health care spending as a percentage of GDP has been trending upwards in every major democracy for the last 30 years.

    If progressives want to believe that Obamacare has produced magic, they can go ahead, but it's utopian BS.

    You don't reduce spending by guaranteeing that everyone get's medicine, regardless of how much it costs.

  • some guy||

    Imagine that. Relatively wealthy people have disposable income and decide to spend it on living longer, healthier lives.

  • ||

    IIRC the Kaiser Family Foundation last year cited increasing use of high-deductible plans and greater cost-sharing as a significant factor in the slowdown.

    All things the ACA seeks to limit.
    The thing is that the ACA's community rating measures mean that if one over-uses the medical system, one will not pay a price in higher premiums. Your premiums are the same either way, so why not get a few extra tests done?
    In the past, greater utilization lead to higher premiums, but the ACAs supporters specifical want to do away with that because they think it is immoral for sick people to have to pay for their own treatment.
    In the process they are creating incentives that will increase demand and ultimately drive up prices.

  • NoVAHockey||

    they refuse to acknowledge that cost-sharing can influence utilization.
    typically, this is expressed as "what are you going to get 6 colonoscopies ?!?

  • ||

    The typical progressive refuses to acknowledge any economic principle.

    As far as he is concerned, if "homo economicus" isn't a strictly accurate description of human nature, then we don't have to care about incentives or even basic math.

  • PapayaSF||

    I always wonder how these figures are determined, and how much various categories matter or don't matter. E.g., do over-the-counter drugs and vitamins count as health care spending? Health spas, gym memberships, cosmetic surgery, eyeglasses, psychiatrist visits? How often do foreigners come to the US for treatment? How often do people in the US go elsewhere to treatment?

    I suspect a lot of the decrease reflects voluntary decisions, like deciding you can't afford the shrink any more.

  • ||

    This post is like a shrike bat-signal.

    I can't wait for him to tell us more good news from the party about the vast achievements of the Glorious Dear Leader.

  • ||

    Just imagine how many more things Obama could have accomplished if he hadn't needed to clean up BOOOOSH's messes first!

  • Sevo||

    And the economy is just wonderful 'cause Obo and that's the reason he's pushing to more UE benes!

  • wagnert in atlanta||

    Yesterday morning it was 6degF in Atlanta. This afternoon it's supposed to be in the fifties. I expect a White House press release taking credit for thawing out Georgia.

  • OldMexican||

    "The relatively low rates of growth that we've seen over the last four years ... are consistent with what we've seen in post-recessionary periods in the past," [Aaron] Catlin [told the New York Times


    Except for the recession of 2001. Or 1982. Or 1949. Or 1921. Or any other before that.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    The White House spin, as in previous years, is that Obamacare deserves credit for restraining the nation's health spending growth.

    Patently specious hogwash.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Only in Government is decreased consumer spending something to be viewed favorably.

    WTF SRSLY?

    All I hear is an incessant drumbeat for increased consumer spending; what the fuck do you think their primary justification for infinitely extending unemployment benefits is?

  • ||

    Democrats are incapable of distinguishing between productive and unproductive activity.

    As far as they are concerned, a guy who gets paid to spend all day filling out forms and get's paid $100,000/year to do it is just as much a benefit to society as a guy who spends all day performing actual brain surgeries and gets paid $100,000/year to do it.

    They are utterly insane retards.

  • JamesFromPittsburgh||

    Mr Suderman is incorrect. The ACA is so powerful and awesome that its effects traveled backwards in time to decrease spending before its passage.

  • david deblASIO||

    Obamacare may be having a small effect on health spending growth at the margins, and it's possible it will have a bigger effect in years to come. But the bulk of the slowdown so far is more likely a result of the recession over the last few years and significantly increased adoption of consumer-driven health plans in the years prior to the economic downturn.

  • ||

    and significantly increased adoption of consumer-driven health plans in the years prior to the economic downturn

    Well, ObamaCare fucks THAT up...

    Who needs more choices than Bronze, Silver, and Gold? It's all too confusing for our little minds to deal with.

  • John Thacker||

    But the bulk of the slowdown so far is more likely a result of the recession over the last few years and significantly increased adoption of consumer-driven health plans in the years prior to the economic downturn.

    And the significantly increased adoption of CDHPs is at least partly due to HSAs (which must be bundled with a CDHP), which were created in the same law that created Medicare Part D. A bunch of Republicans voted for the bill only because HSAs were bundled in, and since the promised alternative was a bill without them if more Democratic votes were used instead.

    So it sounds like Peter is saying that Bush is responsible for a significant part of the slowdown, even if at the cost of a big Medicare Part D giveaway.

  • grannybunny||

    Well, that's funny. Obamacare seems to get all the blame when something goes wrong.

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    Aliquam erat volutpat. Mauris consequat, nunc eu euismod congue, erat nibh condimentum neque, id varius sem mi vel nisi. Ut vitae mauris varius, fringilla nisl sit amet, euismod orci. Praesent hendrerit diam id metus eleifend, et elementum quam ultrices. Donec accumsan metus eget nisl dictum, vel tincidunt arcu varius. Morbi in augue egestas nulla suscipit lacinia a non velit. Vestibulum hendrerit feugiat tellus a sodales. Pellentesque non ultrices erat. Praesent pharetra sagittis augue, feugiat sodales risus fermentum id. Cras scelerisque lacus ac lacus rhoncus tempus a sit amet elit. Curabitur consectetur neque sit amet semper sodales. Curabitur ac felis rutrum, tempor elit nec, malesuada dui. Nam scelerisque diam sed tristique semper. Nunc porttitor elit dolor, non euismod tortor tristique et. Curabitur sodales neque at tortor pretium, vitae convallis nibh mollis. Integer sagittis iaculis sem, quis congue ipsum.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:22:22 EDT 2014
    Etiam non lobortis eros, venenatis tempor ipsum. Suspendisse iaculis ornare libero id tempor. Sed ut dolor magna. Donec aliquet velit fermentum, volutpat lectus vel, cursus velit. Suspendisse tincidunt, ipsum ac dapibus imperdiet, velit lorem ornare tortor, non tincidunt lectus ante vel dolor. Vivamus placerat magna in justo ornare fringilla. Nullam vitae faucibus nulla. Donec lacinia tristique quam, quis fermentum neque condimentum sit amet. Sed eget risus tincidunt, sollicitudin ligula non, porta nisl.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:22:29 EDT 2014
    Sed blandit sit amet quam condimentum iaculis. Mauris quis condimentum nibh, quis congue dui. Proin suscipit pulvinar odio, ut auctor lorem porta et. Morbi orci purus, tincidunt vitae venenatis eget, feugiat tincidunt urna. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Morbi ac pharetra nisl, eu bibendum tellus. Morbi euismod nulla diam, in lobortis sapien viverra a. Aenean ut venenatis lacus. Mauris quis egestas neque. Nulla iaculis, mi ac venenatis aliquet, urna risus tristique urna, nec pellentesque quam odio ut elit. Integer eu justo cursus, adipiscing metus quis, cursus est.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:22:37 EDT 2014
    Ut non eros venenatis, consequat erat et, interdum est. In nec pretium velit. Etiam pharetra nec lacus a pharetra. Phasellus vitae felis nisi. Curabitur imperdiet risus lacus, sed convallis odio viverra eget. Sed sagittis tempor orci, a elementum libero. Proin placerat, tellus ac placerat tincidunt, arcu ante convallis metus, in tempus risus neque nec elit.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:22:56 EDT 2014
    Nullam elit risus, sodales in ante sit amet, semper tristique nunc. Suspendisse id lectus porttitor tortor auctor consequat. Praesent ullamcorper non elit non tincidunt. Sed porttitor malesuada nisi at dapibus. In id sagittis dui, at faucibus metus. Fusce convallis diam vestibulum neque accumsan, eu condimentum nunc sodales. Praesent aliquam elementum convallis. Nunc eleifend at leo non consectetur. Aliquam aliquet in dui vel tristique.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:23:12 EDT 2014
    Fusce vel lobortis eros. Nam lacinia eget nunc dapibus consectetur. Integer mollis eros a neque sodales congue. Donec vitae mollis neque. Nullam nec aliquam diam. Proin accumsan consequat congue. Nulla id lectus orci. Nulla hendrerit diam malesuada erat dapibus, imperdiet vestibulum erat pretium. Morbi in sollicitudin ligula, eget ullamcorper risus. Cras mattis sem vitae fermentum lobortis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:23:37 EDT 2014
    Suspendisse sodales turpis venenatis, malesuada massa vel, convallis erat. Ut consectetur diam vitae erat pulvinar, at vulputate eros tincidunt. Aliquam aliquet sodales diam ac consectetur. Quisque lacinia in justo et rhoncus. Nam in quam justo. Nulla cursus laoreet ante, in consequat erat scelerisque vel. Aenean nisl magna, venenatis at magna eget, eleifend scelerisque risus. In sem urna, elementum at dapibus nec, venenatis at quam. Vivamus viverra, orci eget pretium fringilla, quam enim sodales erat, facilisis pulvinar lorem felis eget leo. Cras interdum pellentesque nibh vitae fermentum. Donec rhoncus pharetra ultricies. Cras laoreet lorem non sapien ullamcorper pretium. Pellentesque luctus velit vel sem lacinia bibendum. Aenean vel elementum tellus. Etiam porttitor, urna in viverra fringilla, tellus ipsum sagittis dolor, a ultrices diam mauris eget erat.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:23:45 EDT 2014
    Duis quis sagittis turpis. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Ut ac risus in enim tempor molestie. Cras mattis posuere orci id hendrerit. Phasellus consequat justo erat, hendrerit congue enim accumsan eu. Pellentesque sodales nulla in lacus vulputate convallis. Etiam non aliquam tellus. Aliquam erat volutpat. Duis volutpat sapien leo. Integer non justo vel felis lobortis blandit a ac elit. Morbi libero ligula, viverra id lobortis sed, elementum non tellus. Nam accumsan diam eu velit mattis dictum. Vestibulum in elit mattis, feugiat augue vitae, laoreet eros. Curabitur porta eget elit interdum sollicitudin. Aliquam dictum ipsum vel purus dignissim, ac pharetra ante ultricies.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:24:18 EDT 2014
    Maecenas tempor imperdiet arcu, sed scelerisque tellus dapibus eu. Sed ut nibh luctus, semper quam a, luctus dolor. Phasellus porttitor aliquam fermentum. Phasellus pulvinar neque dolor, at mattis ante gravida sed. Sed vel magna placerat, laoreet est vel, fermentum massa. Praesent nec risus ac sem accumsan elementum ut ut metus. Praesent pharetra faucibus viverra. Morbi tincidunt hendrerit congue. Cras sed nulla a nulla condimentum rutrum a eu nulla. Cras molestie condimentum quam malesuada consequat. Vestibulum eu tortor sed lorem sodales luctus malesuada in nisl. Aliquam convallis tincidunt mauris at dignissim. Nam neque libero, consectetur eget imperdiet ut, lobortis ac leo.

  • DonW||

    Thu Jun 26 11:24:24 EDT 2014
    Quisque eu ipsum euismod, varius nisi non, pulvinar arcu. Morbi porta libero egestas dolor laoreet viverra. Maecenas at ipsum imperdiet, iaculis enim vel, lacinia sem. Donec ut porta erat. Nunc placerat posuere nunc eget aliquam. Duis sem sem, faucibus in tincidunt eu, mattis eget augue. Nullam venenatis eros eget nisi scelerisque, et porttitor ante laoreet. Aliquam augue turpis, varius lacinia rutrum quis, congue eget nisl. Integer ac vehicula urna, a sodales enim. Donec enim odio, rhoncus fermentum nulla sed, varius venenatis metus. In nulla arcu, tempus eu erat at, pellentesque porta dui. Aliquam ac dui ipsum. Pellentesque euismod neque sed rhoncus tincidunt. Morbi et ligula ac ante ultrices pulvinar. Vestibulum condimentum est non dictum blandit.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

  • DonW||

    ula magna quis ornare. Morbi tempor gravida fermentum. Integer velit neque, lacinia vitae massa quis, porttitor interdum ipsum. Integer molestie tellus a ligula vestibulum imperdiet. Integer auctor facilisis euismod. Nulla vestibulum nec magna quis mattis.

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