Hakken Family, Separated Over Pot Arrest, Has Allegedly Arrived in Cuba

Joshua Hakken, the Florida man who kidnapped his own children after being inititally separated from them due to a marijuana arrest, has allegedly landed with his family in Cuba. CNN reports that 

A man on a boat at a Havana marina told CNN's Patrick Oppmann he is Josh Hakken, the U.S. man accused of kidnapping his sons and sailing them to Cuba.
He declined to answer questions, and Cuban security asked a CNN reporter to leave.

The man, who fit Hakken's description, was with a woman who fits the description of his wife. Both were aboard a blue sailboat named "Salty." The CNN reporter also saw one child on the boat.

Hakken, a Louisiana man who lost custody of his two young sons, is accused of abducting them, together with his wife, according to a Florida sheriff's department.

Joshua Hakken, who media outlets continue to describe as "anti-government" due to his anarchist/libertarian postings on firearm and homeschooling forums, kidnapped his children from his mother-in-law last Wednesday, just one day after a Louisiana judge terminated his and Sharyn Hakken's parental rights.

The judge's ruling allegedly stems from Hakken's June 2012 arrest in Slidell, Louisiana. The Hakken family--Joshua and Sharyn, and their sons, Cole and Chase--were staying in a hotel in Slidell when police were called due to a "disturbance." Slidell Police claim they found Joshua Hakken in possession of a gun, a knife, and marijuana, and that the couple said they were "taking a journey to the Armageddon." Hakken was charged with using a controlled substance in front of a minor, and his children were immediately placed in foster care. Hakken allegedly spent a week in jail according to Slidell police. Upon his release he showed up at the foster home where his children were and demanded that they be returned to him at gunpoint. When the woman who ran the foster home said no, Hakken left. 

Fast-forward to last week: After a year separated from his children, Hakken showed up early Wednesday morning at the home of Patricia Hauser, his wife's mother and the children's guardian, and restrained her with zip ties. He then took Cole, 4, and Chase, 2, and left with them in Hauser's car. Only minutes away from Hauser's home near Tampa, Hakken allegedly rendevouzed with Sharyn Hakken. The family of four then drove to nearby Madeira Beach, boarded the family sailboat, and set sail. Florida law enforcement didn't realize until the weekend that the Hakkens had taken to the Gulf of Mexico. Since the family disappeared, media outlets and law enforcement have suggested the Hakkens meant to harm their children and possibly themselves. It looks more and more like they simply wanted their children back.

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  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Cuba is a strange place for somebody who is supposedly anti government to end up.

  • ||

    It's also only 90 miles off the coast of Florida. They probably had to think fast.

  • prolefeed||

    They might want to set sail for somewhere else soon, if they are looking for a non-repressive government to deal with.

  • Almanian!||

    I rather think the Cuban govt would use them as propaganda, and therefore would treat them pretty well. At least let them "keep" their own kids - unlike, say, a state govt in the US.

  • JW||

    Cuba: Come for the extradition difficulties, stay for the free health care and oppression.

  • ||

    Free healthcare and oppression, where do I sign up?

    As long as there are delicious Cuban sandwiches I probably won't kick against the bricks.

  • ||

    How about against the pricks?

  • entropy||

    Free healthcare and oppression, where do I sign up?

    Heh. Where do you live? Good news!

  • ||

    Where do you live?

    California, so I probably wouldn't notice a whole lot of difference, except the Spanish would sound a bit funny.

  • ||

    Aren't the sodomites still officially repressed in Cuba?

    PS: I think you should start a campaign to reclaim the word sodomite. It has so much more panache than gay, don't you think?

  • ||

    Cuba is kind of weird, Fidel Castro apologized for throwing the sodimitically inclined in "re-education camps" but the laws continued to be oppressive.

    Mariela Castro (Fidel's niece) has been beating the drum for complete repeal of laws against gays and recognition of same sex marriage. We'll see how that goes.

    I think I said a few weeks ago that I had every intention of reclaiming sodomite, I'm just very lazy.

  • ||

    Did I ask you that already? I have sodomy on the brain, I guess.

  • ||

    No, I'm independently in favor of the word sodomite.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    I have sodomy on the brain...

    You're using the wrong hole.

  • Enough About Palin||

    My sister says she's a Sapphist.

  • $park¥||

    My sister says she's a Sapphist.

    Can I have her phone number?

  • ||

    Yeah, I really like Sapphic partly because it reminds me of the ridiculous old pulp novels. It just sounds better than lesbian though.

  • deified||

    Catamite, brah. Better word, cooler concept

  • ||

    Catamite is fine for the receptive partner, but you still need a cool old timey word for the giver.

    Also, MW.com is really going to help me with my rap career.

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  • ||

    I'm 30 deified, there's not all that much room for a younger, kept boy before I'm charting a dangerous course for statutory rape and sex offender lists.

    Warty, you get some chestnut blight from your catamite?

  • ||

    I have appetites for catamites' cellulite, I've seen the light, I'm lilly-white, I'm impolite with terabytes of Scottish rite sodomites.

    Perfect. I will call up Jay-Z and sell it for millions now.

  • ||

    Not a lot of places that won't extradite.

  • $park¥||

    Apparently:

    "Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.

    deified posted a CNN article on another thread about them being found by the Cuban police.

  • entropy||

    will now be in a country where there are no laws,

    Cuba is Somalia? I thought they had ROADZ in Cuba.

  • pmains||

    I think this is essentially correct, in that Cuba is a nation of men and not laws.

  • entropy||

    Where is a nation of laws and not men?

  • BakedPenguin||

    Hopefully, they were able to get passports from Dominica or St. Kitts prior to all this. Especially St. Kitts, as the US doesn't have an extradition treaty with them (according to Wikipedia, anyway).

  • Pro Libertate||

    I doubt seriously their planned end-game is Cuba. Not if they're really anti-government.

  • Tonio||

    True, but they may have difficulty finding someplace else to take them.

    Also, look for their airline flight out of Cuba to experience mechanical difficulties or other special circumstances which cause it to land in a country which does have an extradition treaty with the US.

    Leviathan hates to have it's authority disrespected.

  • Sigivald||

    The US Federal government doesn't care nearly enough, sorry.

    These guys are, at worst, making Florida look bad - the Feds don't give a flying Goddamn about that - especially not enough to do some kind of spy-novel bullshit like that, involving a non-American airline.

    Seriously.

  • $park¥||

    The problem, as I see it, is that now they're stuck in Cuba. If they try to sail anywhere the Coast Guard is going to grab them. If they try to fly anywhere, they're gonna get picked up when they land.

  • Pro Libertate||

    If they're on a commercial carrier, sea or air-based, that's an act of war if it happens in transit. And if the receiving country allows them to stay, not much we can do, barring the use of force.

    One question is where could they go where the receiving country would accept them? After all, as statist as we've become, we're still less so than most of the world, at least in some respects. Not sure an anti-government person would be welcome, unless they can spin this into anti-American.

    Still not sure all is right with this couple, though I haven't heard a compelling argument for taking the kids away in the first place.

  • ||

    There are countries where smoking weed is legal that would have a hard time extraditing them if the only reason ofr taking them is a marijuana charge.

  • ||

    On the other hand, since parental rights were officially terminated, these people are now "not the kids' parents." Would a country look back through the legal record in that way, or would they just have to say, "These are officially not the parents, therefore kidnapping"?

  • ||

    The only thing I can hope and pray for is that the Cuban government DOES use them for propaganda, so that this case gets a LOT more media attention, so that someone is able to open the court records and find out why the kids were REALLY taken. IF there was any reason aside from the pot smoking.

    My prayer is that with enough attention focused on this, people find out that this was a mistake and an abuse of power, and their parental rights are restored and they are given a pardon.
    And then maybe this will trigger some reform of CPS agencies around the country.

  • Enough About Palin||

  • Ted S.||

    My prayer is that with enough attention focused on this, people find out that this was a mistake and an abuse of power, and their parental rights are restored and they are given a pardon.

    And then maybe this will trigger some reform of CPS agencies around the country.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  • N||

    Mistake? Reform? Pardon? It's more likely that I wake up tomorrow and start shitting gold. Now that they're off of US soil, methinks they're prime candidates for a drone strike.

  • Tonio||

    Good question, Nicole. It would really depend on the courts in that country recognizing the US termination of custody.

    Whatever the ultimate outcome, this will involve a lot of lawyering.

  • Ted S.||

    Because fuck you, that's why.

  • ||

    The Coast Guard isn't like state troopers. It's not their job to pull over random sailboats to search for people on the run. They have bigger fish to fry.

  • $park¥||

    It's not their job to pull over random sailboats to search for people on the run. They have bigger fish to fry.

    HAHA! That's a good one.

  • ||

    Uh, the Coast Guard searches boats for drugs all the fucking time. Unfortunately, it is what they do.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I also suspect we have quite a few eyes on Cuba, anyway, so we may know exactly what boat they take out, if they do.

  • ||

    Ok fine, maybe I'm wrong. But it does not appear that the Coast Guard was involved with the initial search this weekend. There was the state police asking local boaters to look for them. AFAIK the Coast Guard was not called out to help in the search.

  • Ted S.||

    Actually, I heard an advertisement today on the radio for the Coast Guard promoting how "green" the CG is, what with keeping the coastline clean and protecting fisheries.

    Another example of how any idea, no matter how nonsenical, will be given a respectful hearing if it's presented as being "green".

  • Tonio||

    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen was born in Cuba. The animus of South Florida Cubans towards the Castro regime is legendary and understandable.

    While there may indeed be laws in Cuba, it's not a rule of law kind of place.

  • ||

    Cuba is a strange place for somebody who is supposedly anti government to end up

    Yeah. What does it tell you about the status of freedom in America when anti-government folks defect to a socialist nation in order to keep their kids?

  • ||

    Nothing that we didn't know already.

  • ||

    Right. At least the Cuban government isn't seizing people's children because they smoke weed and post on "anti-goverment" websites.

  • CampingInYourPark||

    "Right. At least the Cuban government isn't seizing people's children because they smoke weed"

    "Persons violating Cuba’s laws, even unknowingly, may be expelled, arrested, or imprisoned. Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in illegal drugs in Cuba are severe, and convicted offenders can expect long jail sentences and heavy fines. Those accused of drug-related and other crimes face long legal proceedings and delayed due process. In one 2009 drug conviction, a U.S. citizen was sentenced to 18 years in prison."

    http://travel.state.gov/travel....._1097.html

    Why take the kids from parents when you can take parents from the kids?

  • Pro Libertate||

    Watch Cuba send the parents back but keep the kids.

  • Tonio||

    No, I don't think it will end that way. Cuba will play this for the PR value.

  • entropy||

    So rare to see a happy ending in these stories. Good for them.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I'm not sure this is a happy ending. Or an ending at all.

  • ||

    This.

  • entropy||

    Well I guess we'll find out. I hope this is the ending.

  • Tim||

    Unfortunately they've entered a despotic country, one that can portray them in media as it wants to portray them, possibly arrange a show trial and unforetunatley the children could be seized at any moment.

  • entropy||

    That's also what country they left.

    I bet Cuba's is more lackadaisical.

  • Voros McCracken||

    Sure Cuba could do that, but in this case it seems unlikely they will. For what it's worth, they're PR gold for the Cuban government.

  • waffles||

    Well, today I learned Cuba is the Armageddon.

  • deified||

    The family of four then drove to nearby Madeira Beach, boarded the family sailboat, and set sail.

    This is a beautiful sentence and I wish the story had ended there. :(

  • Rock Action||

    lol

  • ||

    Yeah, I was half expecting/hoping they would never be heard from again.

    Except that people would probably assume they sank the boat in a group suicide.

  • Tim||

    The Man portrayed them as dangerous raving loonies, it will be interesting to see what picture of them emerges now.

  • $park¥||

    Dangerous, raving loonies that fled to Cuba, the worst known hive of villainy in the Mediterranean.

  • ||

    Mediterranean?

  • Pro Libertate||

    The Man's geography is weak.

  • deified||

    But his spelling is superb.

  • sarcasmic||

    Yeah. It's right next to Cyprus.

  • $park¥||

    LOL, doh. Caribbean. One of those seas with a double letter in it.

  • $park¥||

    Where is Auric to shout out the need for an EDIT BUTTON?

  • Pro Libertate||

    You mean like the Greenland Sea or the Gulf of Boothia?

  • JW||

    You should have just rolled with it, like the Germans and Pearl Harbor.

  • ||

    "Wait, we're in the Pacific? Just keep going like nothing's wrong!"

  • $park¥||

    I didn't want to pull a John.

  • Ted S.||

    I don't think anybody here wants to pull John.

  • Tonio||

    Needz moar "scum".

  • ||

    I loathe Cuba's government, but if my own government were so hostile to me as to keep me separated from my children, I'd rather live there than here. At least they wouldn't extradite me. Plus they have baseball.

  • prolefeed||

    Nah. A port of call, sure. A place to live? You gotta be kidding.

  • Tim||

    North Korea, Somalia, Myanmar were too far away I guess.

  • Yar||

    Does Cuba still have compulsory agricultural labor and boarding schools for HS age students? I had read that the system was supposedly being changed a couple years ago, but have not found any current information.

    Though my guess is that even if that system is still in place, the Hakken family will get an exception for propaganda purposes.

  • John||

    Cue the media to tell us how horrible Cuba it is and how it is child abuse to allow them to stay. I somehow remember a case involving a Cuban kid where they told us how great it was.

  • cavalier973||

    Ha! That's what I was thinking, too.

  • John||

    Aren't there other countries in the Caribbean and South America that do not have extradition treaties with the US? Hell Venezuela would be better than this.

  • ||

    Yeah, but Cuba is only 90 miles away. I guarantee you this was a massive component in their decision.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I suspect that staying on the open seas when the world's largest navy might get involved is a bad idea.

  • ||

    I wish someone would do some more reporting on what went on with these people legally. The CNN story linked above suggests that the couple "somehow found out" that their kids were staying with the grandmother--how did they not know where their kids were even located? Or at least, as far as LE was concerned, how were they not supposed to know this? That raises a lot of questions for me about what was happening when, what the grandmother's role was, and how much planning they may have been able to do. It seems they had a boat ready to go, but still, acting on this the day after parental rights are terminated, how much planning could they have done?

    Ugh. Report, reporters!

  • ||

    The CNN story linked above suggests that the couple "somehow found out" that their kids were staying with the grandmother

    yeah, seriously, thanks for mentioning that.
    They seize the couple children because of a marijana charge, and then secret them away and don't even tell them where they are.

    And then you wonder why they would feel so desperate that they would take them at gunpoint, get on a boat and flee?

  • ||

    Don't be naive, nicole. They will only "report" what furthers the narrative. In this case, the parents were "anti-government", therefore evil. Plans? Plans don't matter. Vilifying them does.

    "This isn't a business plan! This is an escape plan!"

    "So long, suckers!"

  • ||

    Well Riggs might have time to look into it.

  • ||

    What, in between his Pilates classes and marathon sessions of D&D? Please. We all know what Riggs is, and for one he's getting too old for this shit.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    And I have no idea who I'm rooting for here. I can't tell if these are just my kinda people who said screw it, or if they are actually members of some kind of doomsday cult. My Bayesian prior says that the government is full of crap. Too bad there aren't any organizations dedicated to finding out stuff that happens and truthfully telling us about it, because I would find that useful right now.

  • ||

    We've got plenty of 'SailingBull' web postings to look through. Do any of them suggest that Hakkens was some kind of Doomsday Cultist?

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's how I feel. There's not enough investigation on this, either way. Media treatment of the whole affair seems pretty subdued, considering what a big deal it is, either way.

  • ||

    So, it might be the case that the local authorities are saying 'trust us, there's more to it than that but we can't say anything because the records are sealed, blah blah'. So the media is hanging back and trusting them.

    Or it might be that the cops are saying that, while conducting an internal investigation/getting their story straight or whatever.

    Personally I vote for the latter. I'm thinking right now there are some officials looking at the records going "What the Fuck? We took his kids for WHAT? We did WHAT ? " And they don't want to talk to the media either, they're just in the middle of a big coverup.

    It may be a good rule of thumb that when the authorities aren't immediately forthcoming with a lot of information, they are probably busy covering up some huge screw up.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    if by subdued you mean "having all the appearances of just repeating the government side of the story with zero skepticism, while probably being glad that these white trash peons got what was comin to em", then ya I agree. It's been "subdued".

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's basically what I meant.

  • Tonio||

    The kids, Emmy, you root for the kids.

  • db||

    90 miles from the Keys. But from Tampa? Maybe they hope to take on provisions and skirt the Cuban coast toward the Caymans. Trying to get to the Lesser Antilles will be tought due to the position of Puerto Rico.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Very few, if this list is correct.

  • ||

    Looks to me like Qatar is the place to run to after I commit my crimes. Or New Caledonia, if I'm in the mood for a tropical paradise.

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's a long sailboat trip.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Don't be silly. Porn is illegal in Qatar, and not technologically feasible in New Caledonia. Croatia and Namibia are the obvious choices.

  • deified||

    As a member of The Jewish People™, I would ask that you keep Israel in mind. Provided you're MOT.

    It's sunny and easy to get around. Also, Bar Refaeli.

  • Tonio||

    Cuba is on the list. I expect that they will not honor that treaty in this instance.

  • Scarcity||

    I sat that too, but then noticed the last treaty was signed in 1926. There's been an important regime change or two since then.

  • ||

    I don't really know anything about boats, but I would much rather sail to Cuba than Venezuela if I only had a little sailboat.

  • ||

    Even in your penniless ignorance, you understand this better than any reporter will bother to. Also, sailboats don't really have much success outrunning Coast Guard cutters.

  • ||

    Look, we didn't all have childhoods where we got to put on our sailor suits and our little bell bottoms and swab the poop deck with our big burly sea captain friends.

  • Pro Libertate||

    What, your family wasn't a member of the yacht club? How gauche.

  • Lord Humungus||

    the seas are few in Ohio.

  • Pro Libertate||

    They've got that burning lake or something, though, right?

  • Lord Humungus||

    burning tires.

  • Pro Libertate||

    The Lake of Burning Tires? Is that one of those Great Lakes?

  • ||

    I fell down down down
    Into the Lake of Burning Tires

    Yeah, that sounds right.

  • $park¥||

    I think Johnny Cash did a song about that.

  • ||

    PWND

  • $park¥||

    I'd tell you to blow me, but I don't want your mouth on my dick after you've been sucking the santorum out of Epi's ass.

  • ||

    You forgot about the part where they squeezed themselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness.

  • ||

    Look, I know you're envious, but maybe you could try and control that feeling and be an adult. You want to go for a ride in my Friendship Sloop?

  • ||

    my Friendship Sloop

    You're talking about your rectum, right? The answer is YES.

  • ||

    Always.

  • ||

    Please, tell me more...

  • ||

    This isn't the end of the story of course. But the choice of Cuba isn't irrational.

    Take into account that Cuba went to great lengths to reunite Elian Gonzales with his father, and it would be difficult for them to now send the children back to Florida, or extradite the family back to the US. I doubt the US has a valid extradition treaty with Cuba anyway.

    The Cubans might even give Hakkens some air time to tell his side of the story.

    And finally, it was the US government that took his kids away for a marijuana charge, not the Cuban government. So, you know, facts on the ground, the Cuban government isn't the one that wronged him.

    That's not to say that his future in Cuba will be all roses. He'll probably be heavily monitored and the Cuban government could do all sorts of nasty things to him and his kids to keep him in line.

    But it's also possible that Cuba could change in the not to distant future. He could leave and go somewhere else years from now when nobody is searching for him.

    Right now, though, it's likely that being in a country that isn't going to extradite him right away might be a good thing.

  • db||

    Breaking: Beyonce and Jay-Z accused of using high level Cuban connections to pave the way for the Hakkens' entry to Cuba.

  • RG||

    Michael Moore will be thrilled that they can get top notch medical care.

  • cavalier973||

    We should all flee to Cuba, while we have the chance, infiltrate the government, and turn it into a libertarian paradise.

  • $park¥||

    Are you kidding? It might tip over with so many people on it. Not to mention the earthquake gun aimed at it.

  • db||

    It might make more sense than New Hampshire.

  • Andrew S.||

    That only works until Castro steals our trillion dollar bill. Things go downhill after that happens.

  • Loki||

    Slidell Police claim they found Joshua Hakken in possession of a gun, a knife, and marijuana, and that the couple said they were "taking a journey to the Armageddon."

    Huh... I don't recall any of the initial reports when the story first broke saying anything about there being a gun, knife, or anything about them saying they were "taking a journey to the Armageddon." I seem to recall the only detail being the pot arrest. Interesting.

    If true the armegeddon thing could certainly be interpreted as a little creepy and wierd, and I think "Crazy" might be a better label than "libertarian". Not that it will stop the media from plastering the label "libertarian" all over these two. Gotta make sure low information people continue to assume libertarian = crazy conspiracy theorist nutjob.

  • John||

    The probably are nutjobs. But a lot of people are nutjobs. I have yet to hear anything that justified taking their kids.

  • Loki||

    I have yet to hear anything that justified taking their kids.

    Nor have I, in case it wasn't clear. Hell, if anything I wouldn't be surprised if the police report was ammended after the fact to make these people seem as crazy and unhinged as possible. It probably wouldn't be the first time police lied to justify taking away someone's kids.

  • ||

    or the police lied to cover up having unjustifiably taken someone's kids, after said people took their kids back and fled in a highly publicized manhunt.

    Just think, if Hakkens hadn't gotton on that sailboat, we'd never even have HEARD of this case.

  • Tonio||

    No, Haze, H(and)R was all over this last week, even before they got on the boat. They may have even been on this before the Hakkens took the kids from the kids' grandmother.

  • $park¥||

    Hey Tonio. &

  • Tonio||

    4$$h013

  • tarran||

    I should point out that having successfully fled the U.S. ahead of a very vigorous manhunt without being killed, they are high functioning nut-jobs.

    And yes, you don't want to believe police reports; I'm looking at one right now that says the cops talked to me after finding my kids unattended last fall. Guess how many calls I've ever gotten from the cops about my kids? (hint, precisely as many as I've gotten from Barack Obama asking my advice on economic policy).

  • ||

    What what what?

  • Raston Bot||

    ^agreed: what what what?

  • Capt Ace Rimmer||

    Dude don't trust anything that's written in a Louisiana police report.

  • ||

    This.

  • Tonio||

    There's an extra word in that sentence, Ace.

  • Fluffy||

    The Armageddon quote strikes me as just the sort of thing a duplicitous pig would latch on to and quote out of context.

    I'm sure if the police came to interview me when I had a couple of vodkas in me, I'd quote Milton or something and they'd latch on to that and tell the press I was a devil worshipper.

  • ||

    For reals.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    It is the "Armegeddon" allegation that actually is making me reserve some probability space for being forced to agree with govmt in this case. But it doesn't seem consistent with any other info I've seen so far. So if I had to guess right now, I'd say it's BS.

  • Pinky||

    I think it was reported that the arrest took place about the time of the end of the Mayan Calendar. You know, when everyone was joking about the end of the world. You know, joking. Fucking Pigs.

  • Virginian||

    Wow, I still think this guy is a total badass. Rescued his children, evaded the law, and escaped to another country? That takes some balls and some brains. Hope things turn out ok.

  • Lord Humungus||

    ^this^

    beating the man always deserves a kudos. It's like watching Vanishing Point, but the driver escapes to Mexico.

  • Fluffy||

    Yeah, he's fucking DB Cooper combined with fucking Blackbeard the Pirate at this point.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Since the family disappeared, media outlets and law enforcement have suggested the Hakkens meant to harm their children and possibly themselves.

    They are anti-government extremists, after all. It's not like they just want to be left the fuck alone.

  • ||

    They have "suggested" the Hakkens meant to harm their children. Meaning that they don't have any actual evidence of that and they want plausible deniability. They just need to give the media a cover story while they work out what actually happened.

    Killed trying to escape! That's it!

  • Loki||

    Being anti-government and expressing those views in front of impressionable young IS harmful. God forbid the kids not learn to love the infallible state, they might grow up to become anarchists or vote Libertarian or something. /sarc

  • califernian||

    Go Hakkens!

    Awesome. Hopefully they'll get out of Cuba soon. Tobago is nice.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    I eagerly await Melissa Harris Perry's in depth analysis.

  • ||

    We have to get away from this idea that parents have any rights to not have their children taken away for any reason or no reason at all.

  • Tonio||

    Good one, Brooksie. It would be delicious if she bloviates about this.

    Also, you forgot the hyphen. Never forget the hyphen.

  • Tim||

    The first mate he got drunk
    And broke in the capns trunk
    The constable had to come and take him away
    Sheriff john stone
    Why don't you leave me alone, yeah yeah
    Well I feel so broke up I wanna go home

    So hoist up the john bs sail
    See how the mainsail sets
    Call for the captain ashore
    Let me go home, let me go home
    I wanna go home, let me go home
    Why don't you let me go home
    (hoist up the john bs sail)
    Hoist up the john b
    I feel so broke up I wanna go home
    Let me go home

  • The Late P Brooks||

    What if, as they were sailing south, he told those poor little defenseless children, "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A NATURAL MONOPOLY."

    The horror.

  • ||

    He might even be enjoying a toke while he said it.

  • Lord Humungus||

    only in the modern world will you hear the phrase who kidnapped his own children.

  • Tim||

    Who are you going to believe? The Slidell, Louisiana Police Department or your own lying eyes?

    http://www.slidell.la.us/

  • Tim||

    "The City of Slidell
    is a proud recipient of the
    National League of Cities’
    Gold Award for
    Municipal Excellence. "

  • ||

    Is that anything like getting the Thailer Park Supervisor of the Year award from the National Association of Trailer Park Supervisors?

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    They should have seasteaded.

  • Raston Bot||

    Best possible scenario for CPS. Now it all just goes away.

  • CE||

    Note to self: buy sailboat, learn to sail. No libertarian should be without one.

  • Tuyet||

    We don't have all of the details, but it sure seems that this poor family has been wrongly separated by a government system that is heavily flawed. In dependency court, nothing has to be proven by the state, rather, whatever is written within the "petition for shelter" must be assumed to be true by the judge, by law.

    The Department of Children and Families (DCF) investigators are trained to write these reports with heavy bias, and its common knowledge (within the dependency court realm, that is) that they will greatly exaggerate, have lies of omission, and even outright lies within such petitions. Essentially, the parents are assumed to be guilty and must prove their innocence and often have no means to do so. The parents could have opted for a case plan but also risk permanently losing their parental rights that way.

    This family has been mistreated by the media who do often put a biased tilt on the story (good call on the use of the word "narcotics"). They will intentionally slander people in order to make a story more spectacular.

  • Tuyet||

    I pray for that family to be able to remain safely and happily together. I hope that some good comes out of this, some thorough investigation which leads to some changes - something that will protect all of our families from such miscarriages of justice (I don't mean to totally slam the DCF, they do provide some positive function in many cases - but they are far from perfect and need some tweaking). And most importantly protect the innocent children from being traumatized form having their loving parents removed from their lives. And I hope that maybe some of those who have been quick to condemn these parents will think this through a little more thoroughly before judging them, and develop a deeper sense of compassion - Karma is real and something like this can happen to any of us quicker than you might realize.

  • Tuyet||

    I'll bet those kids miss their parents and want to be with them more than anything they've desired in their whole innocent lives, and no one will love those kids and sacrifice everything to be able to provide for them the way their own parents can/will.

    Its discouraging to see so many of us so quick to judge against this family and eagerly wish for them to be disbanded. Please have some empathy for your fellow human beings. Please do not trust the mainstream media. Google DCF and see what you find. Countless horror stories of families being separated (parental rights permanently terminated), children harmed while in state care, unethical practice and corruption within the state bodies - and most likely not even one written story with a happy reuniting of the family. Could you imagine being separated from your toddlers (just 2 and four years of age) even for just a short period of time? For what this couple did? Marijuana, a legal handgun (if it were illegal, that would be included in the story), probably not loaded (that detail the media would include), a knife (perhaps used for cutting fruit - that would be another detail the media would omit), and the word Armageddon, taken way out of the context in which it was used, I bet.

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