Why We Should Welcome Our New Robot Overlords/Worst Fight Scene Ever

courtesy Gene Rodenberry's repressed mind.courtesy Gene Rodenberry's repressed mind.Luddites, like Ziggy, the Buffalo Bills, and Hamilton Burger, never seem to win. Thank god. But people freaking out about technology - whether it's President Obama arguing that ATMs and ticket kiosks at airports put people out of work or silly folks such as Kirkpatrick Sale literally raging against the machines - are a feature not a bug of civilization.

Here's Brookings Institution's Scott Winship setting the record straight on how technology helps make humans richer and more robust:

Technological development will surely eliminate some specific jobs. But there is little reason to think that the future will look any different from the past in this regard. Productivity gains in manufacturing and other sectors will lower the cost of goods and produce more discretionary income, which people will use to pay other people to do things for them, creating new jobs. Mass leisure will also create other kinds of jobs, such as those devoted to entertaining and informing each other. To the extent that the least-skilled need help, we will be in a much better position to afford safety nets, and our main concern will be the age-old one of discouraging dependency. To the extent that technology increases inequality much of it will be to reward innovators for finding ways to drive our workweek and retirement age down or to induce some to keep working 40-hour weeks.

Whole thing here.

I was going to post a clip of Star Trek's Capt. Kirk besting a computer by forcing it to "feel," but then settled on this fight scene, which makes a strong case for robot overlords that wouldn't allow this sort of thing.

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  • CE||

    A 40 hour work week... sounds like a mini-vacation!

  • Jesus H. Christ||

    ^^ I'm self-employed. Before then, I was salaried for some years. Before then, I worked overtime most weeks. I have not had a 40 hour work week for the past couple decades. Hell, I'd take 50 hour week now, if it didn't come with the loss of income.

  • robc||

    When you are self-employed you can take half days any time you want. Not only that, you can choose which 12 hours not to work.

  • Sudden||

    Stop lying. We all know you didn't do shit until you hit 30 and you died at 33.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Water into Wine. That's not doing shit?

  • Raston Bot||

    He just converted the starches. The yeast made the wine.

  • AlmightyJB||

    But who made the yeast. Huh?

  • ||

    Other yeast. And your mom.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Your mom.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Nothing a little tetracycline won't take care of.

  • Agammamon||

    And maybe a little less bicycling.

  • Janine W. Chambliss||

    my buddy's step-mother makes $87/hr on the laptop. She has been out of work for 8 months but last month her check was $19837 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read more on this site... www.Ace60.com

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Your buddy's step-mother is a liar, because I was boning her all last month. Hard.

  • AlmightyJB||

    He meant on top of the lap, not laptop. Just a bot malfunction. See they can't replace us all yet.

  • fish||

    Hey CE, Jesus and robc did you guys see how much you can make at home on a laptop?! You should check it out!

  • Pro Libertate||

    Why can't I use my desktop? Huh? Why?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Gillespie, you are a scoundrel worthy of nothing more than a horsewhipping.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Every time we would be on location at Vasquez Rocks, me and my crew would always recreate that epic fight scene.

  • Jesus H. Christ||

    Who got to be Kirk?

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    We'd take turns between being Kirk and the Gorn. There is nothing more exhilarating than executing a perfect flying double-fisted down chop, off the rocks.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I loved the nod to that from Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey.

  • Alan||

    Apparently when you're as strong as a Gorn, you don't have to be fast.

  • JW||

    God damn, EDG, that's one of things I want to do before I die.

    Stupid left coasties, having all the fun.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    reason is not of the body.

  • Longtorso||

    I received an email from Human Rights Watch today with the subject "Sign the Petition: Stop Killer Robots". Their hearts are in the right place, but I kept thinking about that Sam Waterson SNL skit.

  • Raston Bot||

    don't they eat old people's medicine? so we know their weakness.

  • ||

    DON'T HATE ON KIRK NICK YOU SOULLESS BASTARD.

  • Generic Stranger||

    Who is Kirk Nick?

  • ||

    It's sad when Nick resorts to such blatant trolling.

  • General Butt Naked||

    He just does it to impress the anti-Star Trek bigots of the DeeCee cocktail party circuit.

  • ||

    Fucking cosmotarians.

  • AlmightyJB||

    The jacket. Will pay. For this. Trangression.

  • JW||

    THE KIRKMOTARIANS WILL NEVER FORGET.

  • Gladstone||

    Got to be all hip and ironic and shit to appeal to teh Yutes who all want lots of Gov and MOAR FREE SHITTZ!!!

  • John||

    What happens when we get so productive a relatively few people produce such incredible amounts of wealth the rest of us can live comfortable lives while doing nothing? It seems to me that creates two problems.

    1. Incredible income inequality. I know that shouldn't be a problem. But lets not pretend envy is ever going to go away and there won't always be the potential for people to kill the golden goose.

    2. Huge numbers of people will be able to live comfortable lives on what amounts to welfare taken from the super wealthy. Will not working do bad things to our character?

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    We're all living comfortable lives, but we're still doing something. I, for instance, buy, refurbish and re-sell mid-century modern furniture to other people who all lead comfortable lives. That is, when I'm not being flown around the world by the mega-wealthy elite to play concerts with my band.

    Just because we are wealthy doesn't mean creativity, invention, and production will cease. I would argue that all three of those categories would expand, if we were free to be mobile, have more time, and basics taken care of.

  • John||

    Just because we are wealthy doesn't mean creativity, invention, and production will cease.

    For some sure. But others I suspect won't handle it so well. Not that that means we shouldn't do it. But we should understand it will never be perfect.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    It's just like now, mostly. The creative, inventive, and productive will always find a way to amass more wealth. And we'll be right back to super wealthy, a large middle class, and a small but expensive poverty class.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Except right now creativity and invention has been essentially outlawed by patent trolling.

  • AlmightyJB||

    We're always going to want a better iBot.

  • Mickey Rat||

    1:44 - "oh my that's a big boulder. Walk Away!

  • Mickey Rat||

    Picking on the Bills, Gillespie? Now, it's personal!

  • Cytotoxic||

    I'll welcome robot anythings if they can erase all memory or evidence of pre-Abrahms Star Trek.

  • Mickey Rat||

    So you prefer bright shiny things to a semblance of storytelling?

  • Cytotoxic||

    I prefer all the world's lensflare to nonsense stories of old Trek and its...'mixed' acting.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    You've got to be kidding. ST 2009 was more nonsensical than any original series episode, even Spock's Brain.

  • ||

    Cyto's all about the lensflare.

  • Cytotoxic||

    What...what if we merged lensflare...with drones.

    Droneflare. Oh my God. It's so beautiful.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Relating: Handwringing over human-robot relations.

    http://hotair.com/headlines/ar.....relations/

  • AlmightyJB||

    And where is my Raccquel Welch (circa 1972) Sexbot.

    http://johnrieber.files.wordpr.....-welch.jpg

  • Bernieyeball||

    This is a great fight between a human and a robot!
    http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/.....th--1.html

    Thank you Rod Serling!
    RIP

  • Fatty Bolger||

    That sounded so much like the plot of the movie Real Steel that I wondered if it was based on the same story. Turns out that both the Twilight Zone episode and the movie are based on the short story Steel by well known author Richard Matheson.

  • Josua||

    Genetic algorithms: software that writes software. A genetic algorithm can sometimes come up with solutions to problems that are much more efficient than solutions produced by careful human reasoning. Such algorithms are produced through rough approximation of natural selection. The resulting solutions can appear counter-intuitive.

    Software can write software. It will get better at it. Where does that lead?

  • AlmightyJB||

    Straight to Sarah Connor

  • AlmightyJB||

    Speaking of which, young Linda Hamilton would make a great sexbot too with those lips.

  • db||

    So. Hot.

  • DEATFBIRSECIA||

    Holy shit is that actually a picture of Kirk holding the Jumbo Bumpy Dong? Which episode was that? Wait I found it: "Summer of Sexual Discomfort", Season Two, Episode Five.

  • Gladstone||

    What are Little Girls Made Of, first season.

    I wonder if that was a deliberate joke by the set designers.

  • AlmightyJB||

    You know Kirk was walking the set holding to his crotch and poking people with it.

  • AlmightyJB||

    That joke. Is not. Funny.

  • Cytotoxic||

    KHAAAAN WARTYYYYYY

  • CP'N KIRK||

    I'M CAPTAIN KIRK!!!!

    I'M CAPTAIN KIRK!!!!

    I'M CAPTAIN KIRK!!!!

  • OldMexican||

    Productivity gains in manufacturing and other sectors will lower the cost of goods and produce more discretionary income, which people will use to pay other people to do things for them, creating new jobs.


    Indeed. Most of the fear springing inside the minds of the Luddite left (and the mercantilist right) stems more from their lack of imagination than any real concern about "da jebz". They cannot conceive of new requirements for labor and talent, perhaps because their minds are unable to handle new thoughts, something that one can discern from their constant and hysterical request for examples from those that defend free markets and technological progress: "What will the buggy-whip makers do next? Huh? What are they going to do? Huh?!?"

  • AlmightyJB||

    It's the unibomber manifesto all over again.

  • BuSab Agent||

    For example: the wailing and the gnashing of teeth over the loss of manufacturing jobs, but actual manufacturing output has gone up. Once upon a time 98% of the population in America worked in agriculture and food was less plentiful and more expensive. Now only 2% works in agriculture, and the biggest problem with food is that our Betters think we eat too much. I look forward to the time when only 2% work in manufacturing.

  • Aresen||

    What I cannot get is how the anti-machine brigade thinks it is somehow "meaningful" to be employed in a mind-killing, soul-sucking job like an assembly line or hoe-ing a field.

    The main benefit of robot technology will be that NOBODY will ever have to do drudge work.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Look at Asimov's Spacers. Hanging out with robot slaves, doing whatever the fuck they want, vast estates and access to goods, sex, sex, sex. Sounds, um, rough.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I would love to travel a thousand years (or more) into the future.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Well, only after I've had a chance to evaluate the situation.

  • Aresen||

    Would be embarrassing to arrive in the Brave New World and find yourself a "Delta."

  • Pro Libertate||

    Or be eaten by aliens, enslaved by robots, etc. On the other hand, if they say, hey, just in time for post-scarcity robot slave paradise, well, that might be somewhen the family and I could consider relocating to.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I would do it sight unseen without hesitation. I'd take the chance.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Yeah, I remember some video, might have been reason tv, when there was a big hoopla about trinkets being sold at some national monument or something that were not make in the US. They made the point "is making these stupid trinkets really something any american would want to do"? And of course would anyone pay the price for american labor for some stupid miniture statue of Liberty or whatever.

  • Gladstone||

    What I cannot get is how the anti-machine brigade thinks it is somehow "meaningful" to be employed in a mind-killing, soul-sucking job like an assembly line or hoe-ing a field

    Aren't they the same folk that spent decades attacking those jobs for the exact same reasons?

    Not to mention spending decades attacking modern office work only to bitch about how college grads can't get those jobs.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's really mind-warping to try to understand that mindset.

    Technology has made things so much better than they were. I say not only more technology but a whole lot more.

  • Agammamon||

    So we get an article about robots and no Star Trek, then you add a clip of Kirk not fighting robots?

  • ||

    What about the episode (the 2nd one w/Harry Mudd...season 2, maybe?) where Kirk, Sulu, Uhura, and a few others defeat a planet-full of androids with absurdist theater and the Cretan's Paradox?

  • Stilgar||

    The Gorn are coming for you Nick...

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