Mike Huckabee on Ron Paul, Libertarianism, and Gary Johnson

Tampa—Mike Huckabee has said some really caustic things about libertarians in the past.

In 2011:

To the contrary, the governor gave an all-out defense of his tax hikes while governor of Arkansas on the grounds that they were the only responsible course of action to repair state roads. He snorted with derision at "libertarians" who fail to recognize that "we don't have a health-care crisis in this country, but a health crisis." He spoke with passion and knowledge on the need for preventative care to bring down exorbitant costs.

In 2010 on how CPAC is awful because of libertarians:

"CPAC has becoming increasingly more libertarian and less Republican over the last years, one of the reasons I didn't go this year," Huckabee said in an interview with Fox News, where he is a paid analyst and has his own show.

In 2008 in his book Do The Right Thing:

The real threat to the Republican Party is something we saw a lot of this past election cycle: libertarianism masked as conservatism. And it threatens to not only split the Republican Party, but render it as irrelevant as the Whig Party.

Yet when Reason caught up with Huckabeee on an escalator at the Tampa Convention Center earlier today, he turned out to be surprisingly neutral on the subject of libertarians.

Asked for his view on the topic of Ron Paul supporters and other libertarians feeling like they’ve been pushed out by the GOP, Huckabee said, I don’t think they been disrespected. Elections are about numbers. I lost four years ago. I didn’t feel disrespected as much as I felt defeated. You have to accept that the voters make a choice and the voters made a choice.”

What about Libertarian Party presidential candidate Gary Johnson? “I like Gary, he’s a good guy, he’s good friend of mine," Huckabee declared. "We were governors together. All I can tell you is if he gets enough votes he wins, if he doesn’t, he doesn’t. It’s a math issue.”

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  • Mensan||

    And it threatens to not only split the Republican Party, but render it as irrelevant as the Whig Party.

    Feature. Not bug.

  • wef||

    faster, please

  • Christina||

    This is my goal as well.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Spoken like a true Democrat hack.

  • wef||

    Spoken like a true repube apologist.

  • wareagle||

    the Repubs could help themselves, you know, and actually walk the small govt walk instead of just talking about it. In a sense, it makes the right worse than the left since the left makes no pretense of giving a shit about controlling spending or govt power.

  • Brutus||

    Then there's this. The GOP has just about blown it on the limited government. I think this is their last shot.

  • Cenotaph||

    Huckabee last Christmas on Fox News:

    “[Paul's] views on foreign policy,” Huckabee said, “are so much an anathema to Republicans and Democrats and what I call middle of the road people. He has a core of fanatical believers, and they don’t represent mainstream Americans. It is not okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”

  • PapayaSF||

    ‎"If you want government to intervene domestically, you're a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you're a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you're a moderate. If you don't want government to intervene anywhere, you're an extremist." — Joseph Sobran

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    C'mon, The Huckster is a garden-variety GOPer. He is Todd Akin or Jim DeMint with a Fox News show. He is a personable version of Dumbya.

  • Brutus||

    Every time I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, Shriek, you just keep talkin'.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Where am I wrong? He is a fat authoritarian Aborto-Freak Fundie Ass GOP poster boy from the South.

    Your kind.

  • Brutus||

    If he's such a down-the-middle GOP'er, why is he on the outside looking in? And DeMint is a small-government guy, not a statist suckhole like Huckabee and you, Shriek.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    DeMint and the Huckster shit from the same asshole.

  • Brutus||

    Do you eat with that thing?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    In fact I was hoping DeMint would run this past year. He is the embodiment of what people see as greasy rednecks.

    Romney won mostly to counter the GOP slide into Hickville.

  • Brutus||

    That you can revile a small-government guy like DeMint while licking the boot of a fascist dirtbag like Obama says a lot about your "libertarian" instincts, Shriek. It's cultural and aesthetic to you...you're scared out of your mind you'll be seen as just some Georgia boy by the Beautiful People.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    DeMint supported the Iraq War and Obama did not.

    And DeMint has proposed nothing as a Senator since 2005 when he joined. He is no leader at all. Tom Coburn is a GOP leader - DeMint is nothing.

  • Xenocles||

    Obama supported staying in Iraq despite Bush's negotiated agreement.

  • Brutus||

    Obama wasn't even in the Senate, so his support or opposition is so much hot air.

    Obama's nationalized student loans, butt-raped GM's secured creditors (something right out of Atlas Shrugged, I might point out), blocked the opening of a Boeing plant at the behest of union supporters, killed American citizens without so much as a "pardon me," squandered hundreds of billions on a failed "stimulus" boondoggle. And that doesn't even mention the hundreds of billions in new taxes for his fascistic health care scam, a program that puts us on a bullet train to bankruptcy.

    Oooo...but DeMint is a professed Christian! He's a Christfag!!

    You are a parody of yourself.

  • wareagle||

    DeMint supported the Iraq War and Obama did not.

    the back end of that is meaningless since Senator Present was still in IL at the time. By the way, EVERY prominent Dem of the time not only voted FOR the war, each was also convinced that Saddam had those dastardly WMDs Bush allegedly lied about. Guess Clinton told Bush to lie.

  • califernian||

    Shrike is right on this one. Big government police-state conservatives, to a man. They are worthless.

  • Archimedes||

    But He plays the bass.

  • ||

    You know who else played bass?

  • SIV||

    Sid Vicious?

  • sticks||

    I guess you could call that playing.

  • ||

    No he couldn't.

  • AlmightyJB||

  • ||

    I was thinking of Steve Harris, but those are good answers too.

  • WWNGD?||

    cross-dressing korean bass players for meg whitman

    Dats worth tree-fiddy.

  • Mensan||

    Bootsy COllins?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Brutus||

    My war baby was splanked electrically by Bootsy and George.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Brutus||

    I'm not sure Mike Huckabee would approve of this sinful shaking of hips.

  • Brutus||

    Oh c'mon, does no one remember Stanley Clarke?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    My idol. Merely the greatest bass player EVAH.

  • Brutus||

    While we're on the topic of jazz greats, here's one of my favorites:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq0EWNuR1H8

    And I only post this first because I didn't search out Herbie Hancock first.

  • Graphite||

    Say Geddy Lee!

  • Archimedes||

    Wolfgang Van Halen?

  • ||

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • ||

    For you. The most hilarious musical moment on Star Trek.

  • Archimedes||

    I was expecting Riker on Sax

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • ||

  • mad libertarian guy||

  • Old Johnnie Goggabie||

    But He plays the bass.

    And he should stick to it.

  • Anacreon||

    "The rats you dreamed about weren't fighting? Well, that's good, Huck. When they don't fight it's only a sign that there's trouble around, you know."

  • John Balzer||

    Huckabee's favorable comments on Gary Johnson are noted. I voted for Huckabee in the primary back then. Huckabee's new found tolerance for Libertarianism represents evolution. His pronoucements in 2008 about Libertarians proved to be true, perhaps not so much this cycle as we shall see in 2016. Right now the best shot the Libertarians have is to unite. We must get behind Gary Johnson, get his poll numbers up and get him onto the national debate stage. Gary Johnson has a message albeit like Ron Paul's (but with teeth) that America NEEDS to hear.

  • Cenotaph||

    Nothing in Huckabee's statements indicates he's changed his mind on libertarians.

  • Hyperion||

    Agree 100% on that. It's the only real option we have now. We vote for Johnson, it's as simple as that. I hate it when I hear Libertarians saying they are going to sit this one out. What good is that going to do? None. It's their decsion, but I don't get it. We need to get Johnson into the debates so that more people can hear the Libertarian message and see how it contrasts with Obamney.

  • Cenotaph||

    It would take a miracle for Johnson to poll high enough (15% iirc) to get in the debates, and if he does they'll just raise the bar to keep him out.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Doubt they're sincere, but I doubt Huckabee has much of a future unless Buchanan finally retires.

  • JeremyR||

    Sorry, but Gary Johnson has the charisma of a fence post.

    He couldn't get noticed in the Republican debates, why would he in the Presidential?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    He couldn't get noticed in the Republican debates,

    Well, you don't notice the normal guy when you go to the freakshow.

  • Cenotaph||

    See, that's crap. Ron Paul had no trouble getting noticed.

  • Archimedes||

    he's the biggest freak.

  • Cenotaph||

    An explorer in the further regions of liberty. Freak to some, square to others.

  • ||

    Tiresome troll is tiresome.

  • AlmightyJB||

    "And it threatens to not only split the Republican Party, but render it as irrelevant as the Whig Party."

    He's talking about evangelicals, right?

  • mad libertarian guy||

    If only.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Of course Huckabee hates libertarianism. He's as big government, central planning liberal as can be. But he thinks the party may actually need the votes this time around.

  • ||

    this.

    also, i can't stand Huckabee, and I was fucking elated when he announced he wouldn't run.

    Little did I know that santorum would fill the void his absence created.

  • Anacreon||

    Plus, Huckabee has a very annoying, whiny version of the "aw-shucks" voice that makes him difficult to listen to. One of the local talk-radio stations has him on opposite Rush Limbaugh so it is all music in the car that time of day for me. Too bad the one station dropped Dennis Miller, a much better option than Huckleberry Hound.

  • ||

    Huckebee is like a combination of Mike Bloomberg and Jerry Falwell...pretty much the worst kind of pol.

  • PapayaSF||

    I have a hard time hating Huckabee because of one comment he once made. A woman asked him if he was "one of those closed-minded Baptists who believed only Baptists get into heaven." He replied: "I'm worse than that. I don't even think all Baptists get into heaven." That cracked me up.

  • SIV||

    I like Mike just so long as he stays far, far away from elective office. The Huckster is the kinda guy you'd like to have a 1lb double bacon cheesburger, extra large fries and a 44oz chocalate shake with. You can't buy a beer in his home town of Hope, AR. Gotta drive all the way to Texarkana.

  • ||

    Yes, and when you go into the liquor stores in Texarkana you see all the baptists from Hope ducking and dodging and hiding in the aisles. Been there many times and it is hilarious.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Filling voids is what santorum does best

  • BigT||

    Santorum fills Huckabee's void. Barf!

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    "Rick. you complete me."

    "I know, Mike. I know."

  • Hyperion||

    Santorum is 1000x worse than Huckabee.

  • ||

    Yeah, but the difference is that Huckabee could have actually won the nomination.

  • Cenotaph||

    On foreign policy and social issues, yeah. But Santorum is way better than Huck on economic issues.

  • Lord Peter Wimsey||

    The funniest part of Huck's speech is about needing the tax hikes for Arkansas' roads. Have you ever driven in Arkansas? Trust me, they aren't spending jack shit on roads. They could privatize some of those major highways, but I suppose that's just more libertarian insanity that threatens to degrade America's savior, the Republican Party. Ha ha.

  • GILMORE||

    Have you ever driven in Arkansas?

    I once saw a sign saying, "next truck stop: turn left at inbred boy playing banjo"

  • wareagle||

    nothing says lack of original material quite like the one about inbred Southerners. Cause all those guidos in the northeast are not related at all. Or similar groups in other parts of the country.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    New Jersey is in the Northeast? When did that happen?

  • ||

    Um, since it is north AND east of a pretty large chunk of the nation (especially us retarded inbred southerners).

  • Christina||

    I always thought the Amish were the most inbred.

  • Randian||

    nothing says lack of original material quite like the one about inbred Southerners.

    If you all would quit refilling the well, we'd quit coming back to it.

  • Archimedes||

    You know who else was Governor of Arkansas?

  • Xenocles||

    Hillary Clinton?

  • SIV||

    Orval Faubus?

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    FUCK HUCK!

  • GILMORE||

    if he gets enough votes he wins, if he doesn’t, he doesn’t. It’s a math issue

    If only I was better at math, perhaps I too could be governor of one of the dumbest states in the country. POWER!!!!

  • wareagle||

    actually, that would be CA which has about one-third of the nation's welfare recipients and some of its lousiest students. Are you practicing being stupid or showing off?

  • Alice Bowie||

    I'm voting for Gary Johnson. Which means Mitt Romney will win as I, a liberal, am suppose to vote for Obama. I hate Obama.

  • Xenocles||

    But my vote for Gary Johnson cancels out your vote for Gary Johnson since I am supposed to vote for Romney.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Racist. That's the only reason anyone would dare oppose his Hopeiness.

  • robc||

    I don’t think they been disrespected. Elections are about numbers.

    And in multiple states, Paul had the numbers but Romney whined and they changed the delegates.

  • Paul.||

    Anyone else get the sense this is a slow news day?

  • ||

    Yes.

  • Christina||

    OT: Tampa, FL - Romneyville residents live in tents and rely on food donations to eat

    http://www.abcactionnews.com/d.....ons-to-eat

    I love it. Name your tent city after the guy who isn't President and hope no one notices when you explain that it's just like the Hoovervilles of the Great Depression.

  • wareagle||

    if Occutards did not actually exist, no one would believe a story like this. All those M.A. programs in puppetry must not include sections on self-awareness.

  • Christina||

    http://resistrnc.org/camp-romneyville/

    Camp Romneyville, located deep in the heart of the Green Zone at 1312 N Tampa St. takes its name from a ‘Hooverville.’ It was the popular name for shanty towns built by homeless people during the Great Depression.
  • wareagle||

    and how convenient that the choice of locations means not having to deal with those pesky Green Zone rules. I'm telling you; if they did not exist, you just could not make these folks up.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Nothing says desperate poverty like neat rows of new pink tents.

  • Archimedes||

    They're missing burning man for this?

  • Christina||

    Hubs: Why Romney? Why not Bushtown?

    Me: Because Romney is an evil rich capitalist, and capitalists caused the recession and their homelessness.

    Hubs: Why not Scrooge McDuckburg? Mr. Monopoly Manville. Monocle City. Spatsylvania.

  • The Rantin Arkansan||

    I vote Monocle City for the name of that floating city-state Thiel keeps saying he's going to build.

  • ||

    OT: One woman's bold quest to take down mainstream porn through crowdsourcing amateur sex videos.

    Basically she's a cougar who was upset that so many of her young partners want to imitate what they see in porn videos rather than do what she wants, so she's hoping real sex tapes will change that perspective.

  • Christina||

    But if Gallop hopes to really change the porn landscape, she’ll need to convince men to surrender the sexual currency they hold over women in the internet porn marketplace, and pay real money for Gallop's more equitable experience—and that means solving a problem that goes far beyond the money shot.

    So basically, her business-model is doomed.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    and pay real money [for internet porn].

    Who the fuck pays real money for internet porn anymore?

  • Christina||

    ^^This. I don't care if my husband has an entire hard drive devoted to porn, as long as he isn't spending money on it.

  • Archimedes||

    How else are you going to get an invite to a webchat with the models?

  • Cenotaph||

    People who aren't into stealing or watching ugly people fuck.

  • ||

    stealing?

    I refer you to the earlier thread about IP.

  • Cenotaph||

    No way man. If it weren't for IP, Jenna Haze would have no incentive to fuck on camera.

  • ||

    Can I introduce you to www.tube8.com

  • PapayaSF||

    Perhaps she can get a grant... or some stimulus money!

  • The Rantin Arkansan||

    As a lifelong resident of Arkansas, I want to apologize to the world on behalf of the state for giving y'all both Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee.

    Seriously, that was a dick move on our part. We'll try not to do it again.

  • Archduke PantsFan||

    but you did give us Johnny Cash

  • ||

    Today on the radio on the Huckabee report i heard him say somehting about libertarians....

    Sadly I only heard the word libertarian.

    Might want to find out what he said.

    It was in the afternoon.

  • fangfooo||

    How do these people know all this stuff? Thats kinda crazy man!

    www.Private-Anon.tk

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