Todd Akin Has Till 6PM ET to Withdraw From the Missouri Senate Race, But Claire McCaskill Doesn’t Want Him To, Obviously

On Saturday, Senate hopeful Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) said something idiotic even by idiot politician standards, concocting a notion of “legitimate rape” and biological defenses that prevent pregnancy that is just completely divorced from reality.

And while Republicans from Mitt Romney on down have condemned the statement, with Republicans as far as Scott Brown in Massachusetts calling on him to step aside, Akin says he won’t. Missouri’s deadline for replacing his name appears to be 5pm Central Time today. The seat being contested was once held by John Aschroft, who in 2000 lost to Mel Carnahan. Carnahan, who had been the governor of Missouri, died in a plane crash two weeks before the election. The acting governor indicated he’d appoint the widow Jean Carnahan, who lost the special election to fill the remainder of the term to Republican Jim Talent in 2002, when Republicans took the Senate. In 2006, Talent to lost to Claire McCaskill, the year Democrats took control of the Senate by holding on to all of their contested seats and knocking out six incumbent Republican Senators.

McCaskill actually ran ads against Akin in the GOP primary, meant to shore up his support in the Republican race by painting him as “too conservative.” Akin won with just 36 percent of the vote against two candidates, the state treasurer, backed by Sarah Palin, and a wealthy businessman. Nevertheless, McCaskill and others spent nearly $2 million on Akin ads in the primary, and despite because of his outrageous statement, she wants him to stay in, telling the Huffington Post  “for Washington party insiders to come in and try to invalidate the votes of Missourians would be radical.”

A poll taken by PPP (D) yesterday, after the comments were made and began to reverberate, show Akin with a one point advantage over McCaskill.

The effort to link Akin’s comments to all Republicans has, of course, begun, with Republicans offering to help.

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  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Akin just told fellow fundie nut he is staying in (1:41pm)

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo......hp?ref=fpa

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Talk about yet another Shit Sandwich/Giant Douche matchup... Akin/McCaskill.

  • fried wylie||

    Is there something like incef/reasonable for blocking posts about subjects I'm completely sick of?

  • Archduke PantsFan||

    You can just go to TMZ.com

  • SugarFree||

    When Todd Akin sees a raped women, he expects her to stay raped.

    VOTE AKIN 2012

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Akin's decided to go full retard:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....le/2505506

  • John||

    Seriously, if the polls still have him ahead, why should he quit? I think he is pretty stupid. But I can understand why he would not quit when he is still ahead.

    At some point, his opponents are likely to overplay their hands and make voting for Akin a way to give the finger to the major media and establishment.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    He's dropped from an 11 point lead to a 1 point lead in less than 24 hours. Do you seriously think he's not gonna lose any more?

  • John||

    It is all over the media. Who doesn't know about this story? Given that, I am not sure why he would lose anymore. It seem to me that if you were going to change your vote based on this, you already would have. Why would someone not change their vote this weekend but then decide to later? If anything, the opposite will occur where the media feeding frenzy creates a backlash. Betting on the media being jackasses and generally loathed is never a bad bet.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Who doesn't know about this story?

    The vast majority of the public, who does not follow the news closely and will thus be gradually finding out about it over the next few weeks?

  • John||

    You don't have to follow the news to know about this. I was on vacation avoiding the news and knew about it. I can't imagine anyone in Missouri doesn't already know about this.

  • Randian||

    Please. The whole world knows about this and it will be a dead story in two days.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Not when the usual suspects are falling out of the woodwork to say that Akin shouldn't even be apologizing because his original statement was absolutely right:

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo......groups.php

  • John||

    As I said above, where does this story go? He admitted he was wrong. If anything, the more the media beats on it, the more he will be able to play the victim card and make voting for him a way to tell the national media to go fuck themselves.

    Randian is right. This story will be dead by the conventions.

  • Randian||

    I concur with John here. The full brunt already came down on the guy, and he's apologized probably dozens of times already.

    If it keeps up for the next couple of days, it's going to bite those pushing this right on the ass.

  • Randian||

    As a random tangent, wouldn't it be weird to be those four docs who authored that AJOG study back in 1996? It's 16 years later and suddenly your piece is one of the most widely shared links in the last 24 hours.

  • John||

    You never know. There was a Russian mathematician in the 1950s who authored an almost unknown academic work about wave mechanics and shapes. His work was read by basically one guy who happened to work at Lockheed and used it to develop the first stealth fighter. Once in a while lightening strikes.

  • SugarFree||

    What he said and what he meant is neither news nor outrageous to his base. Most of the people upset by this are not going to be able to vote against him in the first place.

    Sticking it out will probably result in him elected. A few more rounds of fake mea culpas and a little more campaign cash and everything will be right as rain.

  • Randian||

    What he said and what he meant is neither news nor outrageous to his base. Most of the people upset by this are not going to be able to vote against him in the first place.

    I think this is definitely true.

    If anyone has a real problem with Akin, they need to hash it out over his true intent in talking about this faux biology point, which was to minimize the need for a "rape exception" to abortion (the strong irony, of course, being that we're all talking about a rape exception when there is no exception necessary at the moment nor in the foreseeable future).

  • Rasilio||

    No, I'm pretty sure that anyone who uses ANY form of social media has heard all about this story, no exposure to the news required.

    In fact it is likely that the average uninformed voter has been presented a message through social media that Aiken is pro rape rather than the actual facts of the case. It is certainly what I have seen on Facebook.

  • R C Dean||

    He dropped 10 points in one day, and has a one point lead in a poll that (mysteriously!) overcounted Republicans (possibly the first one in a very long time).

    I'd bet that, if the election were held today, he would lose.

  • John||

    Not true. There are two different polls

    Akin tops McCaskill by 44 percent to 43 in the PPP survey, nearly identical to their May poll where he led by 45 percent to 44, but the edge is within the survey’s 4-point margin of error.

    This polling service has had it close for months. The 11 point lead poll seems to be an outlier.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Outliar - you must mean Rasmussen.

  • R C Dean||

    I bow to your reading comprehension.

    To assuage my pedantic compulsion, I must note that a 1 point lead is essentially a dead heat.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    It's spelled "outlier". you stupid cunt.

  • NoVAHockey||

    what poll? That PPP over-sampled the hell out of the Rs.

  • John||

    See above. The PPP poll has had the race close. I find it difficult to believe that a poll that oversampled Republicans would have only given Akin a 1 point lead in May. And nothing in the article says it over sampled Republicans. Where are you getting that?

  • NoVAHockey||

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2.....roll-poll/

    The had it a R+9. and asked about his statement after they recorded a preference.

  • John||

    Then maybe he is not. I still say this is a three day story and doesn't kill his chances. But it shouldn't even be close. What a fucking retard.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Here are the real numbers: If turnout in November matches 2008 (it won’t): McCaskill 49.25% Akin 39% (this is a D+6 turnout model)

    If turnout in November is even, an incredible feat for the GOP considering heavy turnout in St Louis and Kansas City during an election year: McCaskill 47% Akin 40%.

    If turnout in November matches the best we have ever seen in the state (R+3 during 2010): McCaskill 45% Akin 41%.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    The poll that shows a one point lead has a +9 republican sample.

    It's bs.

    And self destruction of this magnitude takes at least a week to show up in polls.

    He's toast, he's just too stupid and pig headed to admit it.

  • Joe R.||

    Republicans were oversampled. bit.ly/QXzAqB

  • John||

    He is still ahead in the polls. Is it going to get any worse for him? I don't see how. Chances are this blows over and people forget about it by November. If he stays in, he just says "Yeah I screwed up, sorry about that" and eventually the issue goes away and the focus goes back on Carnahan, who is one of the worst Senators in America.

  • Atlas Stoned||

    You are really underestimating how crazy the average Feminist is.

  • John||

    They are nuts. But they were not going to vote for him anyway. And at some point normal people are going to get sick of hearing about this.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Well, that last sentence is surely true.

  • o3||

    so john thinks a baying ass (nuck, nuck) like akin is *DONE* spewing the stupid?!?

  • WTF||

    urine is here to prove that baying asses are never done spewing the stupid.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    eventually the issue goes away and the focus goes back on Carnahan, who is one of the worst Senators in America

    So you want to get past this issue by trying to focus the voters on someone who hasn't been in politics for 10 years?

  • John||

    McCaskill. I lose track of my idiot Senators from my old state.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    I disagree. Mel Carnahan proved to be one of the single best senators in the history of the nation.

  • o3||

    perhaps the gop should nominate eisenhower

  • Virginian||

    ^hahahahah

    A thousand internets to you Stormy. That was brilliant.

  • Kwanzaa Cake||

    We are again operating the federal government with no budget, we are running a trillion dollar deficit, have no realistic way to repay our debt, unemployment is over 8% . . .

    hey look, a squirrel!

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    We passed a budget in 2011. The one that cuts defense and has the GOP howling.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.....ct_of_2011

    It is a real budget - not a lame mark-up.

  • John||

    Shut up sock puppet. Raising the debt ceiling is not a budget. Go back in your hole, you demonic little twit.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    It cut both mandatory and discretionary spending, you dumbass.

  • Randian||

    That still does not make it a budget.

  • Calidissident||

    It didn't cut anything. Reducing future planned increases in spending is not a cut

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Palin's Buttwipe,

    We passed a budget in 2011.


    Uh... nope. Dope.

  • John||

    A Senatorial hopeful said something stupid and offensive. Looks to me like he will fit right in. Biden fit in didn't he?

  • Apostate Jew||

    Are you defending this guy because you think what he said wasn't too bad or because he's a Republican?

  • wef||

    Poor Akin. After toiling in the vineyards of repube bs for years, he finds that his cunning and political hackery are for naught - he has been upended by his philosophical incoherence and his profound ignorance of life beyond the protection racket.

    If he would now come out swinging – maybe remind the power-worshiping lewinsky press that clinton was a rapist, for example – then the idiocy might have some consolatory benefits. But he is of the stupid party.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "The effort to link Akin’s comments to all Republicans has, of course, begun"

    The link is to an article by Eliot Spitzer, who is only one bounced check away from being a rapist.

  • John||

    The same people who want to crucify Akin would vote for Spitzer in a heart beat. Forgive me for having a hard time caring about this story.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Spitzer has a brain and good taste in whores.

  • Randian||

    Every good Goldwater supporter loves malicious prosecution of banks and Wall Street and those who make their names on such.

  • John||

    Nothing says good taste like being known for being rough with your teenage runaway whores. Spitzer is one of the few people on earth who might actually be a more repulsive creature than you are.

  • o3||

    but libtoidz like em sum hoes john. free markets free minds n all...

  • R C Dean||

    Spitzer has a brain

    But not, as far as I can tell, a soul.

  • OldMexican||

    The effort to link Akin’s comments to all Republicans has, of course, begun[...]


    He didn't build that!

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    IIRC, Scott Brown is the only non SoCon in the Senate.

    Maybe the Maine ladies too.

    Todd Akin and Jim DeMint. No difference.

  • OldMexican||

    On Saturday, Senate hopeful Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) said something idiotic even by idiot politician standards, concocting a notion of "legitimate rape" and biological defenses that prevent pregnancy that is just completely divorced from reality.


    So are Intelligent Design, Keynesianism, Socialism... and yet...

  • John||

    Whatever its flaws, belief in intelligent design has never bankrupted a single country or resulted in the death of a single person. The other two..

  • Apostate Jew||

    Plenty of people have been murdered and many more persecuted because of religious beliefs. Used to be helio-centrism would get you in a lot of trouble. Give intelligent design believers some time.

    But you just go on thinking that everyone who disagrees with you - the liberals and progressives and communists and atheists and anarchists and all your other bogeymen - is evil.

    It would almost be charming if it weren't coming from a government enabling hypocritical parasite on the body public who pretends to be a crypto-libertarian. (Which I don't actually believe but when a guy who writes what you write draws his pay from the public fisc ... well, it makes me suspicious.)

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    This guy seems like a major league douche canoe. I wouldn't advocate anybody vote for him.

    But, lets get real:

    1) his primary sin is not being a very good bullshitter and going off script.

    2) He is a moron because he knows he is really really pro-life, but he obviously hasn't thought all the way thru the philosophic implications, at least not well enough to articulate them. Plus making up biological "facts" on the fly.

    3) But to say he concocted any notion of "legitimate rape" is pure BS. He was talking about using a rape exception to get around anti-abortion laws. So "forcible" isn't even the word he should have used, he should have just said "actual", but he is in full ass-covering mode. To construe his comments to be in some way pro-rape is just plain dishonest.

  • Randian||

    But to say he concocted any notion of "legitimate rape" is pure BS. He was talking about using a rape exception to get around anti-abortion laws. So "forcible" isn't even the word he should have used, he should have just said "actual", but he is in full ass-covering mode. To construe his comments to be in some way pro-rape is just plain dishonest.

    Quoted for truth.

  • John||

    You are correct emmerson. That is the problem with any exceptions for abortions. Health, rape or whatever it is will just be used to justify any abortion.

    Basically there is no way to successfully outlaw abortion. As soon as you say "abortion is legal in cases of..." you open a door that abortionists will drive a truck through.

    What that really means is that no matter how horrible abortion is, there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it except not pay for it to happen.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    The morning after pill has made outlawing abortion effectively impossible.

  • John||

    The religious right just doesn't get it. At this point the best you can do is kill off any and all government funding for it and hope that the people who are aborted are like Orin or Shreek.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    They need to work to change the culture, which is moving in their direction anyway, and forget about legal prohibition.

    They could work on some setup that would financially reward mothers for giving up "unwanted" babies as a way to incentivize adoption over abortion. Theoretically anyways, their too stupid and self righteous to actually do that.

  • CampingInYourPark||

    "They could work on some setup that would financially reward mothers for giving up "unwanted" babies as a way to incentivize adoption over abortion. Theoretically anyways, their too stupid and self righteous to actually do that."

    Not sure who "they" is in your statement but I assume you mean something like a stereotypical pro life advocate?

    http://www.carolinapregnancycenter.org/index.php

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Ah, CampingInYourPark, you're just confusing people with the facts.

    The choicers spent a lot of effort building up their narrative: Prolifers never do anything, ever, to help pregnant women because they are theocratic evildoers who are too busy doing evil to assist women with problem pregnancies.

    Now you come along with your facts and start poking holes in the narrative. That will never do.

    They'll just ignore you, and soon they'll be back with the same talking points.

    That is, when they aren't trying to actually shut down the prolife pregnancy centers.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    And of course, these are the same pregnancy centers which, according to the narrative, don't even exist.

    When I was going up the stair
    I met a man who wasn't there
    He wasn't there again today
    Oh, how I wish he'd go away!

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Is it legal to pay a women for carry a baby to term for an adoption?

    My understand is that it is not.

  • OldMexican||

    Re: VG Zaytsev,

    They need to work to change the culture, which is moving in their direction anyway, and forget about legal prohibition.


    Forget prohibition -- I prefer shunning and banishment myself -- I just don't want to pay for someone's abortion, because it's my money. Do you understand that concept? "It's mine"?

    [I loved that quote - so fitting.]

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Once again, you show a complete lack of reading comprehension.

    Show where I ever advocated public funding for anything.

  • OldMexican||

    Re: VG Zaytsev,

    The morning after pill has made outlawing abortion effectively impossible.


    The Morning After Pill is not an abortion pill. Abortion means getting inside and pulling to (literal) death the fetus out of his or her dwelling. The morning pill only stops the cygote from adhering to the matrix.

  • VG Zaytsev||

  • Banjos||

    RU-486 is NOT the morning after pill.

    Definitions - How do they work?

  • VG Zaytsev||

    1st) My snark was addressed at Old Mexican, not you.

    2nd) Yes you are correct. I should have said Mordern pharmaceutical abortifacients have made outlawing abortion effectively impossible.

  • ||

    Yeah, I know Catholics (including one I was in a relationship with for years) that consider that abortion as well.

  • Banjos||

    The morning after pill has made outlawing abortion effectively impossible.

    For the millionth fucking time, the morning after pill is NOT an abortion pill.

  • o3||

    if you dont like abortion john, dont get one

  • Randian||

    It confounds me to no end that many supporters of the right to an abortion fail to understand that to pro-lifers, abortion is actual murder. Like, a heinous moral crime.

  • NoVAHockey||

    and if akin says that, it is a non story.

  • o3||

    what exempts babies from mans' well developed skill at killing people?

  • Rasilio||

    It confounds me to no end that many supporters of the state's right of taxation fail to understand that to libertarians taxation is actual theft, Like, a heinous moral crime.

  • Rasilio||

    It confounds me to no end that many supporters of freedom of religion fail to understand that to Muslims drawing pictures of Mohammad is actual blasphemy, Like, a heinous moral crime.

  • Rasilio||

    It confounds me to no end that many supporters of freedom of speech fail to understand that to progressives Hate Speech is an actual assault. Like, a heinous moral crime.

  • Rasilio||

    I could of course go on and on and on about the moral outrages that various factions in society percieve based on their own specific moral codes and yet no one believes we should make any special allowances for them in our laws based just on how sincerely they feel the outrage.

  • The Derider||

    Here's a completely new argument for the no exceptions crew.

    Assuming some men have a desire to reproduce at any cost, if the law makes abortion illegal in the case of rape, the law incentivises rape. Ditto with incest. Ditto statutory rape.

    Thoughts?

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