Liberal Columnist: Obama's "black dialect" Explains Why "You didn't build that" Outrages People

New York magazine political observer Jonathan Chait knows "The Real Reason 'You Didn't Build That' Works." It is this:

Mitt Romney's plan of blatantly lying about President Obama's "you didn't build that" speech is clearly drawing blood. But what makes the attack work so well is not so much the lie itself but the broader subtext of it. Watch Obama's delivery in the snippet put together by this Republican ad:

The key thing is that Obama is angry, and he's talking not in his normal voice but in a "black dialect."

Former Reasoner David Weigel goes to the tapes, and gives a respectful WTF?

In totally unrelated news–except for how it involves a liberal commentator accusing the Romney camp of racism based on evidence that falls apart under scrutiny–Salon's intrepid hunter of political racists, Joan Walsh, sees some white-girl ugliness in Ann Romney's statement to a journalist that "We've given all you people need to know and understand about our financial situation and how we live our life." Here's the author of What's the Matter With White People?, doing what she does worst:

Like everyone else, I immediately thought of the trouble Ross Perot caused for himself when he referred to the NAACP audience as "you people" in 1992. It's so disrespectful. [...]

Now, it may be OK, in some circles, to call the media "you people," which is what Romney would probably argue she was doing. But in fact, she's talking to American voters, a majority of whom (including a third of Republicans) want the Romneys share more tax returns, according to a USAToday poll released Thursday. The poll didn't ask whether voters would like more information generally about how the Romneys "live our life," but that seems if anything an even more arrogant and elitist reaction from Romney.

Ann Romney's comment about "you people" is particularly fascinating to me because I can't get over the way the contemporary right has taken insults they once reserved for African-Americans and applied them to a much broader swath of the country, including white folks, who happen to make up 90 percent of their base. [...]

Ann Romney is too well-bred to call African-Americans "you people" in public, of course, especially after what happened to Ross Perot. But she obviously has no problem referring to other folks she holds in contempt that way. Of course Romney has displayed contempt for certain African-Americans – like when she and her husband told the Obamas to "start packing," because in Ann's words, "It's Mitt's time. It's our turn now," to live in the White House. As if the Obamas were troublesome tenants who'd overstayed their welcome in the home that rightly belongs to the Romneys.

The main problem with Walsh's "you people" theory is that Ann Romney didn't say "you people." At least according to those racist Romney apologists at, uh, New York magazine. Judge for yourself:

In totally unrelated news–except for how it involves a liberal commentator accusing the Romney camp of racism based on evidence that falls apart under scrutiny–increasingly spittle-flecked Daily Beast commentator Michael Tomasky the other week called Mitt Romney a "race-baiting pyromaniac" for using the word "Obamacare" at an NAACP convention.

That speech wasn't to the NAACP. It was to Rush Limbaugh. It was to Tea Party Nation. It was to Fox News. Oh, he said some nice things. And sure, let's give him one point for going there at all. But listen: You don't go into the NAACP and use the word "Obamacare" and think that you're not going to hear some boos. It's a heavily loaded word, and Romney and his people know very well that liberals and the president's supporters consider it an insult. He and his team had to know those boos were coming, and Romney acknowledged as much a few hours later in an interview with ... guess which channel (hint: it's the one whose web site often has to close articles about race to commenters because of the blatant racism). Romney and team obviously concluded that a little shower of boos was perfectly fine because the story "Romney Booed at NAACP" would jazz up their (very white) base.

Liberals and the president's supporters may indeed consider "Obamacare" an insult, but not, um, the president of the United States. Who has an "I Like Obamacare" page on his campaign website, and who has said on numerous occasions (including five days after Tomasky's column), versions of what he said on Aug. 15, 2011: "Let me tell you, I have no problem with folks saying 'Obama cares.' I do care. If the other side wants to be the folks who don't care, that's fine with me."

And yes, Tomasky has used the phrase "Romneycare," in a headline, as recently as January.

As I wrote after Maureen Dowd appended a "boy" onto Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" retort to Obama, "Generally speaking, when key evidence is 'unspoken,' and in fact imagined by the prosecution, it's a good bet that the overall case is weak." Michael C. Moynihan identified this curious non-trend trend back in 2008, in the midst of a thoughtful and perhaps prematurely optimistic essay on race relations in Obama's America:

Lacking clear-cut examples of racist campaigning against Obama, the defenders of this position turned to what we might charitably call nonobvious examples. Those Britney Spears ads accusing Obama of vapidity and "celebrity," we were told, transmitted a racial code, because the juxtaposition of the candidate with young white women subconsciously stoked fears of miscegenation. The phallic monument in Berlin where Obama gave his speech? The ad included that icon to play on old stereotypes of black male supersexuality. "Race will be central to this campaign because McCain needs it to be," former New Republic Editor Peter Beinart wrote in The Washington Post. "He simply doesn't have many other cards to play." The media sophisticates, having long been warned about unconscious and subterranean racism, knew the racial attacks would happen, even if they weren't visible to the naked eye.

It is the way of discourse in this racism-haunted country that few people (especially white liberals) face sanction for flinging around spurious accusations of the R-word. That doesn't make their behavior any less bizarre, or shameful.

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  • cw||

    Shorter Team Blue:

    Disagreeing with us is racist.

  • Bam!||

    That summarizes Team Blue's response over the last 4 years.

  • fish_remote||

    That summarizes Team Blue's response over the last 4 40 years.

    FTFY

  • ant1sthenes||

    Incidentally, that's about the period that they stopped being the bigger racists (in the traditional sense).

  • Suki||

    They didn't stop, they just expanded and changed the wording.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The key thing is that Obama is angry, and he’s talking not in his normal voice but in a “black dialect.” This strikes at the core of Obama’s entire political identity: a soft-spoken, reasonable African-American with a Kansas accent.

    Meine Damen und Herren, Mr. Jonathan Chait.

  • Suki||

    First, the writer is calling it by the wrong name. It is Negro dialect, and we all know that he can turn it on and off at will. If it was "on," the light-skinned, clean guy it was on because he wanted his Negro dialect to be on. Just ax Harry Reid.

  • ||

    Wow I totally forgot about that.

  • Fluffy||

    There are probably millions of Americans angry at Obama's statement who have never seen the video and only know of it from print.

    Dialect-free and inflection-free print.

    I'm one of them.

    I read what the President says precisely because I'm so sick of both him and Romney already that I can't bear to watch them speak on video.

    Ann Romney's comment about "you people" is particularly fascinating to me because I can't get over the way the contemporary right has taken insults they once reserved for African-Americans and applied them to a much broader swath of the country

    Um, no, you stupid whore.

    The reality of the matter is that "you people" is an extraordinarily common formulation and it was only as a result of stupidity and delusion and paranoia that black opinionmakers decided it was some sort of unique term of abuse whites reserved for blacks.

    It may shock you to know this, but we aren't thinking about you at all, the overwhelming majority of the time. Your fucking imaginary concerns and your hysterically inappropriate triggers and fetishes just don't come up.

  • cw||

    She's so obviously grasping at straws. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.

  • 35N4P2BYY||

    It would be hilarious if there were not so many progressives desperately looking for a way out that will cling to the racism life preserver.

  • cw||

    The best they could do would be to move the hell on. Obama blundered. They could just shrug their shoulders and keep attacking Romney over taxes, since that seems to fire up the Team Blue base. But no, they have to keep pressing on this matter, and will accomplish nothing.

  • ||

    Because this is all they have left. They bet the farm on Obama and he fucked them. Which is hilarious. But they are increasingly desperate to salvage something from the wreckage of trusting him, and they're failing.

    I love watching partisan fools in psychic pain, but it also makes them dangerous, as they will entertain insanely retarded ideas in their desperation.

  • Tulpa the White||

    49%-46%

    Are they failing? I hope so and I would think so. But their strategy may be the right one.

  • ||

    You mistake what I mean by "failing". They are failing to see Obama do what they had hoped from him, so their solution seems to be to dig in harder.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    The final results in November will be something like 40%-60%

  • ||

    Wanna bet? I put the over/under at 51% for Obama.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    I put the over/under at 51% for Obama.

    Obama got 51.4% in 2008.

    I know lots of people that voted for him last time that won't this time.

    Who voted for Herman Munster in 08 that will vote for Barack in 12?

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Wanna bet? I put the over/under at 51% for Obama.

    Yep.

    And he and his lackey media will call it a mandate.

  • Killazontherun||

    If Obama wins, his right turn wont just be with foreign policy where he is nothing more than the rubber stamp that the CIA always wanted, he wants a legacy, and he'll stop with the socialist rhetoric too if that is what it takes to make the markets happy, and yes, that is what it takes. Bill Clinton famously asked if taking it up the ass for a bunch of bond holders was necessary to salvage his presidency. He adapted, and so will Obama. It will be hilarious to see what levels of cognitive dissonance his most vocal partisans will steep to to keep that flame burning with the white hot lies sustaining what meager hope they have in this life.

  • amelia||

    The partisan fools I know aren't in pain, because They really believe Obama is awesome. They go on FB and say things like "I love our president!" Or "so classy!" People I've known for decades who I once believed were smart people. I can't deal with it.

  • ||

    They go on FB and say things like "I love our president!" Or "so classy!" People I've known for decades who I once believed were smart people. I can't deal with it.

    This. My friend, who I never thought of as a genius or anything, went online and said "I'm getting Obamacare drunk tonight. Thank goodness for cheaper healthcare!" The thing is, it wasn't sarcasm.

  • Serf||

    It's impossible to move on when the left actually believes all Republicans are racists. Sure, some are more racist than others, but in their minds conservatism is synonymous with racism. I have my own problem with many Republicans but I'm not so deluded to believe that any of it stems from a pervasive racial bias. It becomes more and more evident that many in the Democratic party are truly delusional.

  • Pro Libertate||

    The reality-avoiding community.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    It's actually worse than that. It's not that they believe that Team RED is racist, it's that they believe that anyone who disagrees with them on anything and for whatever reason is racist.

  • PapayaSF||

    Actually, I wonder if all the baseless accusations of racism aren't going to hurt Obama. He got many, many votes from independents and even Republicans who wanted to express their non-racism, and thought that having a black president would be a step forward in race relations. Suckers! Of course the racial-grievance types aren't satisfied, because if they ever are, they're out a job. And why should yellow dog Democrats give up their trump card?

    So the accusations of racism fly, and yet anyone who pays attention to the news knows that there has been lots of black-on-white and black-on-Hispanic mob violence in recent years, which has been downplayed by the major media. The economy sucks. Obama's not looking like a healer or compromiser or very competent. And yet... anyone who questions or criticizes him is a racist? Surely all this bothers millions of the people who voted for him.

    Frankly, I think the polls are showing some degree of a Bradley Effect: people are saying they support Obama because they don't want the pollster to think they are racist. And he still can't get to 50% in the polls.

  • califernian||

    I know several people that admitted to me in 2008 they were going to vote for him precisely because he was 'black'.

  • PapayaSF||

    And I don't think most of those people will feel they need to do the same thing again.

  • Tulpa the White||

    Perot was specifically talking to and about blacks when he delivered the "you people" line. In the context I completely understand black people being insulted by what he said. He was othering them and condescending to them.

  • PapayaSF||

    Even that seemed like an edge case to me, because it just sounded like a folky/Southern way of referring to a group. I could imagine him saying that to a group of carpenters.

    In Mrs. Romney's case, I think she meant "you journalists," and maybe "you Democrats" (but I repeat myself).

  • JD||

    The author in the quote even used the phrase "Romney's people" so her referring to the annoying press as "you people" doesn't seem out of line.

  • ant1sthenes||

    How the fuck else are you supposed to make it clear that "you" is intended in the plural sense? "You guys" is sexist. "Y'all" is Southern, and thus racist. And "yinz" is illegal, since it's an attempt to incite violence.

  • Tulpa the White||

    "you all"

  • ant1sthenes||

    You all is just a longer version of y'all, thus racist.

  • ||

    "You guys" is extremely oft used as a gender-neutral plural here in AZ. If people think that's sexist, I don't give a shit.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    I call my friends (a lesbian couple) "you guys" all the time. I catch myself, but then let it slide. I think they like it, anyway.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    How the fuck else are you supposed to make it clear that "you" is intended in the plural sense? "You guys" is sexist. "Y'all" is Southern, and thus racist. And "yinz" is illegal, since it's an attempt to incite violence.

    The phrasing used is irrelevant because they're not really offended at all. It's all faux outrage to score political points and they'll be "offended" by whatever phrasing is used.

    Fuck em and move on.

  • ||

    "Yous" works (is that how you spell the slang pronounced like yooz?). The one you hear at the track.

  • ||

    "All y'all." That's universally the second person plural in Texas, Arkansas, and presumably most of the rest of the South.

  • Jeff||

    "Liberals" act like the stupid motherfuckers that they are. Film at 11.

  • SOFL Hockey Fan||

    How can people like Chait and Walsh shamelessly show such unconditonal love for Obama?

  • cw||

    Since they've invested so much in this failed president, backing out now would seem to cast them in the worst light possible (at least to fellow liberals). Better to perform the most stringent of mental gymnastics than admit their man sucks.

  • ||

    Backing out now would also mean they would have to admit to themselves that they were abject morons and they got scammed.

    Oops. They're drowning and Obama is the only thing they have to hold on to.

  • sticks||

    OMG RACIST

  • Tman||

    Jonathan Chait, expert in speaking Jive.

    Perhaps he should have consulted that noted expert in African-American linguistics, Barbara Billingsley.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0j2dVuhr6s

  • ||

    Goddamnit, I was just about to post that link.

  • Killazontherun||

    So apt. So, so apt.

  • Tulpa the White||

    Er, Ross Perot was specifically talking to, and about, black people when he said the infamous "you people" line. The reason that was interpreted as racist was not because "you people" was an insult reserved for blacks (?!) but because it made it look like Perot lumped all black people together and didn't consider them equal to him (particularly in the context).

  • Killazontherun||

    You make a solid point you make. In the context of that speech, dead on, but since then it has turned into the proverbial racism dog whistle.

  • Killazontherun||

    You make a solid point you make.

    Four Sierra Nevada Torpedoes, two Pale Ales, and two Fraoch Heather Ale brought by my company. Last is pretty good.

  • Killazontherun||

    Movie of the evening sucked. Chinese martial arts/fantasy, don't recall the name. First hour, well done action, last one and a half, took its self too seriously with the drama.

    Next weekend, we're seeing The Way of the Gun as it will be my choice.

  • Brutus||

    Official African America gets its back up if you lump them all together, then turns around and declares folks like Clarence Thomas, Janice Rogers Brown, Shelby Steele and Tom Sowell as not authentically black because they have thoughts outside of the accepted left-liberal box.

  • ||

    The key thing is that Obama is angry, and he's talking not in his normal voice but in a "black dialect."

    Okay, and why was Obama talking in a black dialect in front of a multi-racial audience at a fire station in North Carolina? How do people this retarded get jobs at major American newspapers?

  • cw||

    Because they will say anything to get their empty suit elected?

  • Serf||

    So, let me get this straight.

    Angry Obama = Black Dialect

    Articulate Obama = White Dialect?

    Who's the fucking racist insinuating this line of thinking Mr. Chait?

  • mad libertarian guy||

    So, let me get this straight.

    Angry Obama = Black Dialect

    Articulate Obama = White Dialect?

    Who's the fucking racist insinuating this line of thinking Mr. Chait?

    This.

    Collected Obama talks "white"; Obama only talks "black" when he's overly emotional and not speaking with full composure.

    And I'm the fucking racist?

    Fuck you, Jonathan Chait.

  • Brutus||

    So now we can add "Ebonics expert" to the resumes of both Obama and Chait?

  • ant1sthenes||

    So if we read the quote and get angry, we're just upset because we've missed a context that would be clear if we just heard him speaking. If we hear him speak and still think he's a jackass, we're racist.

  • Killazontherun||

    It's so much bullshit. He was using the put upon voice, not the black dialect voice. Chait not knowing the difference is just par for the course for that ignorant motherfucker.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Willard Romney can't be a racist. He immediately launched into a clownish version of 'Who Let the Dogs Out' when campaigning to some black folk.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwwAaVmnf4

  • Jordan||

    Do you actually know what the term "racist" means? That was, at the absolute worst, an example of ignorance or insensitivity.

  • Suki||

    It means whatever the leftoids say it means.

  • ||

    That wasn't racist, that was him just being a goofy old guy trying to act hip.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    That is my point. I don't claim he is racist - just that he is completely out of touch with the vast majority of US citizens.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|7.27.12 @ 7:27PM|#
    "That is my point. I don't claim he is racist - just that he is completely out of touch with the vast majority of US citizens."

    And Obama is jest folks, right shriek?
    What an idiot.

  • Marshall Gill||

    he is completely out of touch with the vast majority of US citizens.

    Says the Leftist who thinks he is a libertarian. Convincing.

  • ant1sthenes||

    So when you "Willard Romney can't be a racist." you weren't being sarcastic. Yeah, that's the ticket.

  • Alex the wolf||

    Thats the problem we have. We tried a superstar for four years and he failed. He had no administrative experience either in the priveate or in the public sector, never seen a budget before. Time to try and old boring mormon who is used to wake up at 6 to go to work. What do we need an "exciting" president for?

  • Whahappan?||

    "Willard Romney can't be a racist. He immediately launched into a clownish version of 'Who Let the Dogs Out' when campaigning to some black folk."
    Nope. You weren't implying he is a racist at all!

  • califernian||

    "he is completely out of touch with the vast majority of US citizens."

    That is a positive in my view. I may vote for him now, thanks!

  • Brutus||

    Stupid, even graded on the Shriek curve.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    "completely out of touch"

    Like virtually every utterance of the word "racist", IOW.

  • Matt Welch||

    Easily more disturbing than anything in the three examples above.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Look, his entire campaign has been about pandering to his audience. In Florida he fought the Medicare cuts to seniors and he fights the military cuts to veterans. He is about enlarging Govt moreso than even Bush 43.

    Romney is EXACTLY what you claim to hate in your book yet I suspect you support him anyway.

    Everything about Romney (his gun bans, abortion friendly past, RomneyCare, AGW support) is about getting him elected.

    Romney is incorrigible.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Romney is EXACTLY what you claim to hate in your book yet I suspect you support him anyway.

    I don't see that bias in Matt's stories. Your conflating opposing Obama with supporting Romney. Which is pretty silly because you have been coming to this website for a number of years. You should know by now that this is a libertarian website, and that it is not a GOP website.

    So you are either being purposely obtuse, or you have a learning disability.

  • ||

    Or it's a fucking sockpuppet who is hoping to goad even an editor into responding to it.

    Don't fucking respond to it.

  • Sevo||

    Epi,
    Not *every* lame poster is a sockpuppet under the bed.

  • ||

    This one is.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    I usually don't respond to them. But I've had a couple bourbons and was feeling ornery.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I see few if any anti-Romney articles here by Matt Welch.

  • juris imprudent||

    Wipe the shit off your face shreik.

  • ||

    She's on to you, Matt!

  • CampingInYourPark||

    In the Obama bootlicker's world, anything that calls out the leftists propaganda machine's bullshit is an endorsement of Romney. The only way to not be a Romney supporter is to just pretend what they say is true without question.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|7.27.12 @ 7:49PM|#
    'Obama is EXACTLY what you claim to hate in your book yet I suspect you support him anyway.

    Everything about Obama (his gun bans, abortion friendly past, ObamaCare, AGW support) is about getting him elected.'

    FIFY, idiot.

    Romney is incorrigible.

  • Sevo||

    Ooops, left out:
    'Obama is incorrigible.'

  • ||

    Romney is EXACTLY what you claim to hate in your book yet I suspect you support him anyway.

    You need to get better at reading what Matt actually writes.

    Jesus fucking Christ he is the chief editor of Reason fucking magazine for a few years now...he has pretty much absolute control of what is printed in it...

    STOP BEING AN IDIOT SHRIKE!

  • Mr. FIFY||

    "He is about enlarging Govt moreso than even Bush 43."

    But Obama isn't. Got it.

  • ||

    Easily more disturbing than anything in the three examples above.

    I know I felt uncomfortable watching it.

    Like being with my dad when he took me into a Kiss concert looking for my older brother to tell him we had switched hotels....he was wearing cowboy boots.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Were you in your pajamas?

  • ||

    No.

    Bellbottom Star Jeans and a big fluffy down red ski coat.

    I was in the height of style in 1979 and my dad was totally cramping my style.

  • ||

    My shoes were black converse.

  • Tulpa the White||

    So BO is racist when he plays golf and critiques fine wines.

  • ant1sthenes||

    He's half white, so he can only be racist by offending Asians.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Dear god, that's embarrassing. When you make the decision to run for public office, you must also resolve to look like a jackass. I couldn't do it.

  • 35N4P2BYY||

    Is there a compendium of racist phrases out there?

  • ant1sthenes||

    Anything you say can be racist, if a liberal decides it is.

  • Suki||

    + teh interwebz

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    This was posted a couple of times:

    http://www.rsdb.org/full

  • Killazontherun||

    This one is wrong in both origin and meaning.

    Boogalee -- May be a corruption of the French slang for "feces".

    A white swamp ghost. Closer to a casper in meaning. My mom was mistaken for one when she met the in-laws for the first time.

  • ||

    Is there a compendium of things Republicans have said? For liberals, it's the same thing.

  • ||

    and in order to weaponize it, Republicans clipped the part that sounded "anti-business."

    Fuck you Weigel it sounded anti-business because it was anti-business.

    I was also clipped because it exemplifies Obama's complete lack understanding how the US economy works.

    You are a hack ratfucker Wiegel.

  • RPR2||

    in context it sounds even worse for Obama with his sneering about people thinking they're so smart.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Yeah,

    I first so the short clip right after the idiot said it and thought it had to be taken out of context.

    But the context makes the if you got a business - you didn't build that phrase even worse.

    It's really funny how leftards simultaneously applaud what Obama was saying and deny that he said it.

  • ||

    But the context makes the if you got a business - you didn't build that phrase even worse.

    I just looked through some of Weigel's other writings on the subject. He is saying this is fake invented gaffe generated by the Romney folks and the Romney's "London is not ready" gaffe is real because a bunch of Tories fired back.

    I think Weigel is not only a ratfucker hack but i also am starting to think he is a stupid kid who is out of his area of understanding.

    The Obama gaffe occurred over a weekend but that Monday after I told my boss that he did not make his business...someone else did. I know he watches fox news so he did know I was quoting Obama. I expected a chuckle but instead I got a really long cold uncomfortable silence.

    Weigel has no idea how big this is and how it cuts to the core for small business owners.

    Years from now it will be described as one of the reasons Obama lost the election.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    It rubs me particularly raw being that my business has had to shut down because of punitive taxes (literally beyond what my company was making) and regulations.

    So after government policy has robbed me of my business, I have Mr. "Government is the best shit ever" telling me that, despite the hundreds of hours of work put in to starting and running my company, I didn't build it either.

    Fuck Obama. He's a piece of shit.

  • Tulpa the White||

    I don't know if it was "anti business" in particular, it was just an instance of BO's overall excuse-making loser mentality that minimizes accomplishments that have nothing to do with government.

    I really don't think BO knows what he's saying some times. It's the only explanation for his constant gaffes.

  • CampingInYourPark||

    Well, after listening to the speech multiple times, you can plainly see and hear them going into black church mode...you know the way black people just can't help but get caught up in a frenzy with a crowd that agrees with them and say something stupid. Nothing racist about that, it's just how black people are. He couldn't help it.

  • ||

    It's not at all disingenious to replay that sound bite over and over, Obama did say it while making fun of people who think that their hard work and success got them to where they are today.

    If he had said something like "hard work and success is important, but nobody get their on their own because we pay for schools and fire departments" that would be relatively uncontroversial, but he said it after mocking the very idea of hard work and intelligence. So fuck him, he deserves the heat he's getting for it.

  • Marshall Gill||

    If you haven't watched the original video, you should. The crowd he is speaking to, cheers. One can guess what type of people they were, clearly not anyone who had built a business. He meant exactly what he said because at that moment he was pandering to parasites.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    The speech was at a firehouse. So it was probably heavy with heroic firefighters bureaucrats and other government parasites

  • Killazontherun||

    Exactly. Whoever wrote the speech he riffed off of was pandering to public employees, telling them they are more important than the private sector. It was meant to as a morale booster for that audience and not for the general public. That is where the Obama camp has a real problem with this, due to his fuck up, they couldn't keep control of the context.

  • ant1sthenes||

    No, in the broader context, it was anti-individualist. We are all trapped in a terrible Rand fanfic, and Obama is the villain.

  • ||

    I only think individualism has a moral basis because it works economically and justly.

    Rand thought individualism was moral unto itself.

    Obama thinks individualism is immoral and does not work.

    So yes you are sort of right.

  • ant1sthenes||

    I suppose when I say individualism, I'm looking for a word that means valuing individual intelligence, creativity, work ethic, achievement, etc. The word that explains why, when a great piece of art is commissioned by an organization or wealthy patron, we give credit to the creator rather than the funder.

  • cw||

    [Joan Walsh,] the author of What's the Matter With White People? [...].

    Would I be fair in saying Ms. Walsh doesn't understand irony?

    It's bad to categorize people by skin color...except when I do it?

  • Brutus||

    Joan Walsh is one of those "smart" people Obama refers to in his sound bite. And by "smart," I mean someone well-credentialed but who couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the heel.

  • Anacreon||

    I have also been wondering about the enormous amount of energy the Left has been paying to voter ID laws in some states. Even Doonesbury has spent all week saying they are the same things as Jim Crow laws.

    Lately they have found some professors who have "projected" some demographic numbers to announce that more than 15% of US citizens do not have any identification, and most of them, apparently, are in the black community. (I find this very hard to believe because it is so difficult to do so many things these days without showing ID).

    Regardless, the paternalism of the liberal commentators on this has been amazing. It seems their true message is "these laws are Jim Crow, because, well, you know, blacks are not capable of getting IDs". I would love to see someone in the black community start an ID drive and say publicly, "you think we can't do this on our own? STFU Garry Trudeau, you pandering asshole!"

  • ant1sthenes||

    Lately they have found some professors who have "projected" some demographic numbers to announce that more than 15% of US citizens do not have any identification

    They didn't say 'legally eligible voters'. Children are U.S. citizens, and most don't have photo ID. It isn't relevant, but they aren't technically lying, just being dishonest.

    Even so, provisional ballots. They take a picture, get some fingerprints, make you swear an oath in front of a judge that you'r eligible. Unless it could mathematically change the outcome, they don't need to follow up on it at all.

    While I don't believe the 15% number in the first place, what I do believe is that people disconnected enough from society to completely lack all forms of ID rarely vote, at least not of their own volition.

  • Anacreon||

    Really good points, ant1. I hadn't even thought about the children angle before. It is a bit reminiscent of the talk about how many kids are killed by handguns each year -- as if Dad accidentally shot them -- when the vast majority of those are due to gang shootings.

  • Sevo||

    ant1sthenes|7.27.12 @ 7:58PM|#
    "They didn't say 'legally eligible voters'. Children are U.S. citizens, and most don't have photo ID. It isn't relevant, but they aren't technically lying, just being dishonest."

    Sorta like the claims of 'food insecurity'; if you were hungry once last year, you qualify.

  • WhereYou'reWrong||

    I would love to see someone in the black community start an ID drive

    Exactly. If the Left really cared about those people without ID they would be putting their time and money into helping them get IDs, so they could do all the things you need an ID to do these days, from buying Sudafed to filling out an I-9 to get a job. If they really cared about those people...

  • Sevo||

    Couldn't Obama have taken an ESL class at Haavaad?

  • SKR||

    Black dialect?
    I think it's racist to imply that blacks don't know how to use relative pronouns.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Now, it may be OK, in some circles, to call the media "you people,"

    I can't believe she said that. The correct formulation is obviously, "You fucking dummies".

  • Sevo||

    Idea!
    Since Obama obviously only got where he is because of other people, can we get his kindergarten teacher for the rest of his term?
    S/he's GOT to be better!

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Romney and his people know very well

    Judges, can we get a ruling?

  • ||

    The left have been trying to make republicans into a race for years.

    On the assumption they have succeeded then yes it is racism.

  • Old Mexican||

    The key thing is that Obama is angry, and he's talking not in his normal voice but in a "black dialect."


    A "black" dialect? I will have to make a note of that. Seems like once one starts to talk in a "black" dialect, the normal meaning of the words one utters no longer matters.

    The media sophisticates, having long been warned about unconscious and subterranean racism, knew the racial attacks would happen, even if they weren't visible to the naked eye.


    The media people have a special sensibility to such things. They're like that guy who could clearly hear the carpenter across the street, who is pounding busily with his hammer, insult him with all sorts of vicious remarks - in Morse code.

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  • Sevo||

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    Damn! Can't get the translator to stick an L in there.

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  • Sevo||

    SOS is racist? Who knew?

  • VG Zaytsev||

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  • Sevo||

    Damn ditty-chasers!

  • T o n y||

    Fuck Ann Romney and her dancing horses and her big black ass!

    I'm fitting in right? We're trashing both parties' first spouses equally because we hate both parties equally right?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Sorry pal, Reason,com commenters only trash Dem First Ladies.

    Its their 'non-partisan' nature at work.

    MOO-CHELLE ain't racist!

  • Old Mexican||

    Tony and Palin's Buttjuice,
    sittin' in a tree!
    K-I-S-S-I-N-G!

  • ||

    Its their 'non-partisan' nature at work.

    You said this about Matt Welch:

    Romney is EXACTLY what you claim to hate in your book yet I suspect you support him anyway.

    Your word is mud Shrike.

  • seguin||

    Sorry Tony, that's the difference between you and me; when it comes to trash-talking, I believe in applying it individually to those who deserve it.

    OTOH, it looks like you're an avowed socialist in everything.

  • ||

    I have a funny feeling that Mrs. Romney is going to be a preachy nanny like Mrs. Obama is. Mrs. Bush was kind of awesome in that regard.

    Though instead of evil fatty foods it will be about video games or sex in media.

    But yeah I mostly don't care about Mrs. Obama and rarely say anything bad about her. Feel free to say whatever.

  • Sevo||

    T o n y|7.27.12 @ 10:07PM|#
    "We're trashing both parties' first spouses equally because we hate both parties equally right?"

    Juveniles are *very* difficult to deal with, shithead. You tend to presume you actually have a valid comment to make in the discussion.
    You don't. Given your juvenile inability to identify the issue at hand, you constantly make inappropriate comments.
    It's possible to believe that you're just not real bright, but the evidence suggests you're truly evil in your efforts. Shithead.

  • califernian||

    To be fair, Ann Romney has not yet announced what vapid idiotic social-engineering program she plans to launch as first lady.

    Michelle Obama already has and god it's fucking bad. second only ever to "just say no" which is still the king of awful first lady projects.

  • Brutus||

    Ann Romney has a big black ass?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    And there's not one Democrat, anywhere, who doesn't do that stupid dancing-horse bullshit. Right.

  • Brutus||

    At least one very vocal one does:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....-Show.html

  • Alex the wolf||

    I dont hate equally both parties. I kinda dislike democrats much more, possibly because they remind me of Latin America, where I lived for a long time. If you think that too many people depend on government, you haven´t seen anything, it can get much worse

  • ||

    really?

    I always saw Mexico as mostly free. That is if you were not living under the drug war.

  • JeremyR||

    Really?

    Mexico to me is pretty much like a country wide version of Chicago.

  • sticks||

    Latin America is Mexico? Or not sure, but damnit I want to know where in Latin America Alex lived.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Brazil is particularly bad in this regard.

    Full of graft and wealth draining politicians.

  • Brutus||

    That much is true, but the government is (or was when I was there) almost completely incompetent, so you could pretty much live your life unmolested if you wanted.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    It's still incompetent, but thinking you can get away without getting assfucked in taxes is wishful.

  • juris imprudent||

    Just when you think Chait has bottomed out in the well of stupidity, he manages to sink a little deeper.

  • ||

    Did he mention wanting loose shoes?

  • ||

    And referencing the original quote made me think of this beauty

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq7Vm4wM2p4

  • CampingInYourPark||

    "In an interview, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi said that she believes Republican Jews are 'being exploited,' but she was sure to add, 'And they're smart people.'"
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....49077.html

  • Brutus||

    And they have big noses. And they have money. And matzoh they make with the blood of Gentile babies.

  • Xenocles||

    "Like everyone else, I immediately thought of the trouble Ross Perot caused for himself when he referred to the NAACP audience as "you people" in 1992."

    I bet she really believes that, too.

  • Killazontherun||

    So, when Obama is jive talking he is no longer president of all of us? If we can't legitimately criticize him when he is in that mode then he no longer represents us either. That would be an extreme abuse of executive authority if he is outside the realm of being petitioned in the public airing of grievances for the vast majority of Americans at these moments of his choosing.

    The White, Asian, and Hispanic members of the executive branch are no longer under his command given they can not adequately parse the words he is using, they can not execute his will either. If he is jive talking while signing a executive order, how do you then decide whom it effects that is if you take this toxic cloud of a brain fart of Chait's seriously?

    There now exist a reason to exclude black people from obtaining the highest office of the land, or even any office if Chait is right. It is like a super power allowing someone of the black race immunity when ever they choose to flip on the jive talking button. Or is Chait so stupid he doesn't see the flip side to the crap he peddles?

  • Brutus||

    Maybe he turns British at those times:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W42rMjYWlk

  • mad libertarian guy||

    The key thing is that Obama is angry, and he's talking not in his normal voice but in a "black dialect."

    Yeah.

    And liberals only hate GWB because when he spoke, he did it like a good 'ol country redneck. It had nothing to do with his craptacular policy. It was just his hick accent that drove them to dissent.

  • juris imprudent||

    You may be more right that you know - you don't see liberals complaining that Obama policy is all but indistinguishable from Bush policy.

  • ||

    Not more than a half hour after I posted that last comment I flipped on about 15 minutes of "Pony Excess" on ESPN and saw an old clip of Dave Richards talking to a reporter about transferring to UCLA. Anyone want to guess how he referred to the media? I cracked up so much hearing "you people" so soon after this.

  • Barack Obama||

    Uh, let me be perfectly clear. When I said the top priority of my administration would be a "get Whitey," I clearly meant that we will focus on making life miserable for Whitey Herzog.

    For more details, please see Jon Chait's upcoming column, which he will write as soon as he's done polishing my boots.

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